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Taurus along with Mars. How do you reckon the period of Venus-saturn would have

been? - Pretty Mediocre - Reason - Vedhaka. Case 2: Lagna: Virgo; Venus in

scorpio[vargottama] and Saturn in pisces exchanges house with Jupiter in

Aquarius; How do you reckon the period of Venus-saturn would have been? -

Pretty Mediocre - Reason - Vedhaka. In another thread about Retro-Vakra

planets, I observed interesting postings from Rafal and others. I think

debilitated planet which is vakra is neechabanga.It definitely cancels the

debilitation. It might confer a raja yoga depending on other factors. Case 1:

Lagna: Capricorn; Sun and Retro Mercury in Pisces;Nationally renouned poet and

short story writer who won many awards in Mercury antardasas. Similarily

exalted planets in retro motion are very dangerous - even

during transit escpecially if they are benifics. This combination is very

difficult and may push the subject from a decent position to the last rung of

the ladder depending on the house lordship. Any comments on these topics are

welcome. Kind Regards Akbarvedic astrology wrote:

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There are 25 messages in this issue.Topics in this digest:1. Re: To all, Proof

for Kundalini Awakening in women"jyothi_b_lakshmi" 2. 12th Lord in

12th houseVarman Sivanathan 3. Message to my students and clients.

dakshinamoorthi r 4. Re: Narasimhji: Why Kundalini Awakening impossible in

women?"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" 5. Re: Probodhji: Why Kundalini Awakening

impossible in women?"jyothi_b_lakshmi" 6. Re: Narasimhji: Why Kundalini

Awakening impossible in women?"jyothi_b_lakshmi" 7. Re: Predictions About

Earthquakes/Disasters"nameisego" 8. Re: Saturn in 10th Bad for

profession?"divinity_sun" 9. Why Kundalini Awakening impossible in

women?Ramakrishna ParamahamsaAjith 10. Re: Re: Saturn in 10th Bad for

profession? 11. Re: Predictions About

Earthquakes/Disasters

"gulabo_jain" 12. Saturn in 12"gulabo_jain" 13. Re: Saturn in 12

"divinity_sun" 14. Re: Narasimhji: Why Kundalini Awakening impossible in

women?"Sre_eram" 15. Re: Re: Narasimhji: Why Kundalini Awakening

impossible in women?Sre-eramMasterJ 16. Re: Master J, Narasimhji: Why

Kundalini Awakening impossible in women?Sre-eram"jyothi_b_lakshmi" 17.

Re: Re: Saturn in 10th Bad for profession?saikumar 18. Re: Saturn in 10th

Bad for profession?"divinity_sun" 19. 3# Re: Retro + Debilated Benefic

planet = Exalted ???"dparagin" 20. Re: Sachin Tendulkar's world

recordastrology astrology 21. When will Marriage Happenmanish

dutta 22. Sachin Tendulkar's world record"devibhakt" 23. Re: Career

Analysis - Dear Shri Vattem KrishnanJyotish Learner 24. Please help: Lady

client in despairMartha Röhl 25. Re: Puzzle:saturan in 10th house(to

Ketu)"Ketu"

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1 Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:55:37 -0000"jyothi_b_lakshmi" Re: To

all, Proof for Kundalini Awakening in womenDear Sir,I will check the name and

let you know tomorrow. I think you can get the book from any leading

bookstall.Regards,Jyothivedic astrology, SAM BOB

wrote:>> Dear Ms. Jyothi,> > Will you please mention the publisher's name of the

book you referred and where it could be purchased. If any one has read the book

'Mira Charit' on Mira bai, there is a reference of Kundalini awakening too for

her.> > Thanks.> > SAM.> > jyothi_b_lakshmi wrote:> Hi all,> > I had read a

book called "Taming the Kundalini" by Swami > Satyananda Saraswati. The book

contains letters written by Swami > satyananda to his FEMALE disciple, (though

name is not disclosed > anywhere) guiding her through different stages of

Kundalini Awakening. > Book is very much informative and shows Kundalini

Awakening is > possible, in all, who, irrespective of the gender, genuinely

wants to > realise the Truth. > > Devika, I hope this will bring you back the

confidence:-)> > Regards,> Jyothi> > > > > > > Archives:

vedic astrology> > Group info:

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2 Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:12:12 -0800 (PST)Varman Sivanathan

12th Lord in 12th houseDear People,I'm a male born in Kanya Lagna with

Surya in Simha Raasi in Birth Chart. I also have Surya in Mesha Rashi in

Navamsha Chart (Vrishaba Lagna). Basically I have Surya in the 12th house in my

Lagna and Navamsa chart.I've heard that a bad planet in a bad house creates

"Vipareetha Raja Yoga". However, I had too many expenses in my Surya Bukti.

Most of my expenses were due to vehicles. I also have Guru (L4 and L7) in Simha

Raasi in Lagna chart. I would really like to know what are the effects of the

12th Lord in the 12th house. Appreciate your interest and comments on

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4 Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:35:00 -0500"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" Re:

Narasimhji: Why Kundalini Awakening impossible in women?Namaste Prabodh,Just to

clarify, I was not "angry" at all. This is simply a strong disagreement and no

emotions are involved, as far as I am concerned.> Basic aim of Sadhana is to

obtain > gyana in Adhyatma. You can obtain

knowledge by many means like by > Gyana,Raj,or Bhakti yoga. Kundalini yoga is

subclass of Raja yoga. > Now to say that those who follow Gyana or Bhakti marga

will also > expirence KA is very bold statement.It is not a bold statement but a

simple fact that people following Gyaana Yoga or Bhakti Yoga too can experience

Kundalini awakening.In a book titled "Kundalini Tantra", Swami Satyananda

Saraswati (a disciple of Swami Sivananda) describes various methods of

awakening Kundalini. Raja Yoga is only one of the several methods mentioned. To

say that Kundalini awakening cannot be obtained by those not following Raja Yoga

is definitely incorrect.I personally know people who had Kundalini awakening

thru different methods. One person, for example, was a devotee of Krishna and

had an amazing experience involving an appearance of Lord Krishna at the time

of his Kundalini awakening. The same person had another amazing experience

involving a

Bhairava Yogi a few years later, who curiously knew all about the previous

appearance of Krishna and Kundalini awakening and gave him further experiences

by simply touching him! This gentleman definitely was not making things up, as

he was not the one who started the discussion. He did not say anything about

his Kundalini experiences and it was I who first asked him if he had Kundalini

experiences in early 1980s. I saw something in D-20 and Vimsottari dasa and

asked him. THEN ONLY he opened up and narrated his experiences.Interestingly,

the basic experience is the same in people following different methods, though

some details are different. Electric explosion at the base of spine, feeling of

a live electric wire in the back, ecstasy, bliss, hearing certain sounds,

feeling of being propelled like a rocket, seeing some light, merging with the

light etc etc are common to several experiences I have heard.In fact, there are

cases of Kundalini awakening in all cultures

and religions, even among cultures in which Raja Yoga is not practiced and

people don't know about Kundalini. Kundalini awakening and rise happen when

one's ego consciousness rises above the normal state. One's religion, culture,

creed and spiritual path do not matter.I fully stand by my statement earlier

that Kundalini is nothing but the chid-shakti of one's ego consciousness.

Kundalini rise is nothing but one's ego consciousness reaching higher planes of

consciousness. Samadhi is nothing but the ego consciousness rising to the

highest plane of consciousness, i.e. perfected consciousness that one is

non-different from Supreme Brahman. You can ask the saints who taught you about

Kundalini awakening and ask them directly to comment on my statements.> I was

taught to read Ramayana and Mahabharata is this way. Just try > to understand

why Rama asked Laxyamana to cut Stana-Nak-Kana of > Shoorpankha? or even, why

Shiva and Brahma are enemies of each

> other? In YogaVashista, why Indra and Ahilya story comes again and > again.(I

dont exactly remember in which adhya as I read YogaVashista > seven to eight

years back.) I humbly suggest that you should keep your biases to yourself and

not rub them on Maharshi Vasishtha.In "Yoga Vaasishtha", Vasishtha taught

several stories of women who were fully enlightened and obtained perfect

self-knowledge. Please see the examples of queen Lila and demoness Karkati.May

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Dear All Namaste> > There were angry and some very angry reactions on this

thread. It

> seems that my understanding of Kundalini activation is different > than most

of the people in this thread. My knowledge is stright from > the persons who

have experienced KA and have told me many hidden > things in most logical

manner.(Many have doubt about this but they > are not at fault. I am very poor

at expressing what I know!)> > There seems to be some confusion about the

keywords such as > Moksha,Bhaktimarga and Kundalini. Basic aim of Sadhana is to

obtain > gyana in Adhyatma. You can obtain knowledge by many means like by >

Gyana,Raj,or Bhakti yoga. Kundalini yoga is subclass of Raja yoga. > Now to say

that those who follow Gyana or Bhakti marga will also > expirence KA is very

bold statement. Every marga will give you > ultimate knowledge but every marga

will not be through Kundalini. > The person who has fully activated Kundalini

and person who has > reached ultimate

level in Bhakti marga will have same knowledge to > share. Both will be realized

souls and will have same knowledge. But > there means will be different. Bhakti

marga is more popular as it > is considered to be simple and safe. Most of the

Santa are from > Bhakti marga. So many feel that Bhakti marga Santa must have

obtain > knowledge through Kundalini activation. > > Since Kundalini activation

experience is very difficult to express, > Rishis have written Puranas and

MahaKavyas(Ramayan & Mahabharat) to > explain those hidden secrets with the

help of stories and > allegories. Once such story is of

Kacha-Devayani-Shukracharya. It > ends with the statement that Mantra should

not be given to woman.( > Read Gurucharitra). Shukrachary was forced to teach

Sanjeevini> (Kundalini is temporary death and Sanjeevini is life after such >

death) to his daughter. Shukracharya knew that this vidya

should not > be given to woman but succumbed to the pressures put by his >

daughter. Shukracharya dies in the process and Devayani learns. > Kacha as well

learns as he was in the stomach of Shukracharya. Kacha > comes out in Bramha

where as Devayani makes a strong request for > marriage which Kacha turns down.

Devayani hence curses Kacha that he > will not be able to use this vidya(like

BhargavaRama cursed Karna > in Mahabharata). In turn Kacha says that Devayani

will not marry > Brahman(Brahma Janati eti Brahmana)i.e will not be able to

control > Brahma. Finally Brihaspati curses to all Brahman that if anybody >

teaches Mantra(Kundalini Vidya) to woman he will go Rairaiva Naraka. > > Those

who believe in this story in this way strictly follow it. > Others, who follow

literally, suggest Vratas instead of Mantras to > women.> > I was taught to

read Ramayana and Mahabharata

is this way. Just try > to understand why Rama asked Laxyamana to cut

Stana-Nak-Kana of > Shoorpankha? or even, why Shiva and Brahma are enemies of

each > other? In YogaVashista, why Indra and Ahilya story comes again and >

again.(I dont exactly remember in which adhya as I read YogaVashista > seven to

eight years back.) > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.> > Prabodh

Vekhande> Jai Jai Shankara> Har Har Shankar[This message contained

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5 Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:12:57 -0000"jyothi_b_lakshmi" Re:

Probodhji: Why Kundalini Awakening impossible in women?Dear Sir,Hope you dont

mind asking some doubts.1. Do you mean

Mritasanjeevani vidya is Kundalini vidya? When Kunadalini Vidya is to attain

liberation from birth -death cycle, Mritasanjeevani is to revive life to dead

ones (ones karma is not getting burnt here)which seems to me like opposite of

Kundalini vidya. Right? Or is there any hidden meaning?Can merging with

Paramatma in kundalini vidya, be equated to gaining immortality with

Mritasanjeevani?2. What do you say of Maitreyi to whom her husband, sage

Yajnavalkya, imparted all knowledge? Regards,Jyothi--- In

vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" wrote:>> Dear All Namaste>

> There were angry and some very angry reactions on this thread. It > seems

that my understanding of Kundalini activation is different > than most of the

people in this thread. My knowledge is stright from > the persons who have

experienced KA and have told me many

hidden > things in most logical manner.(Many have doubt about this but they >

are not at fault. I am very poor at expressing what I know!)> > There seems to

be some confusion about the keywords such as > Moksha,Bhaktimarga and

Kundalini. Basic aim of Sadhana is to obtain > gyana in Adhyatma. You can

obtain knowledge by many means like by > Gyana,Raj,or Bhakti yoga. Kundalini

yoga is subclass of Raja yoga. > Now to say that those who follow Gyana or

Bhakti marga will also > expirence KA is very bold statement. Every marga will

give you > ultimate knowledge but every marga will not be through Kundalini. >

The person who has fully activated Kundalini and person who has > reached

ultimate level in Bhakti marga will have same knowledge to > share. Both will

be realized souls and will have same knowledge. But > there means will be

different. Bhakti marga is more popular as it > is

considered to be simple and safe. Most of the Santa are from > Bhakti marga. So

many feel that Bhakti marga Santa must have obtain > knowledge through

Kundalini activation. > > Since Kundalini activation experience is very

difficult to express, > Rishis have written Puranas and MahaKavyas(Ramayan &

Mahabharat) to > explain those hidden secrets with the help of stories and >

allegories. Once such story is of Kacha-Devayani-Shukracharya. It > ends with

the statement that Mantra should not be given to woman.( > Read Gurucharitra).

Shukrachary was forced to teach Sanjeevini> (Kundalini is temporary death and

Sanjeevini is life after such > death) to his daughter. Shukracharya knew that

this vidya should not > be given to woman but succumbed to the pressures put by

his > daughter. Shukracharya dies in the process and Devayani learns. > Kacha as

well learns as he was in the stomach of

Shukracharya. Kacha > comes out in Bramha where as Devayani makes a strong

request for > marriage which Kacha turns down. Devayani hence curses Kacha that

he > will not be able to use this vidya(like BhargavaRama cursed Karna > in

Mahabharata). In turn Kacha says that Devayani will not marry > Brahman(Brahma

Janati eti Brahmana)i.e will not be able to control > Brahma. Finally

Brihaspati curses to all Brahman that if anybody > teaches Mantra(Kundalini

Vidya) to woman he will go Rairaiva Naraka. > > Those who believe in this story

in this way strictly follow it. > Others, who follow literally, suggest Vratas

instead of Mantras to > women.> > I was taught to read Ramayana and Mahabharata

is this way. Just try > to understand why Rama asked Laxyamana to cut

Stana-Nak-Kana of > Shoorpankha? or even, why Shiva and Brahma are enemies of

each > other? In YogaVashista,

why Indra and Ahilya story comes again and > again.(I dont exactly remember in

which adhya as I read YogaVashista > seven to eight years back.) > > Thanks a

lot for your Time and Space.> > Prabodh Vekhande> Jai Jai Shankara> Har Har

Shankar>__________Message:

6 Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:29:54 -0000"jyothi_b_lakshmi" Re:

Narasimhji: Why Kundalini Awakening impossible in women?Respected Narasimhji,Am

I permitted to ask how you see Kundalini awakening from D20?Regards,Jyothi.---

In vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" wrote:>> Namaste

Prabodh,> > Just to clarify, I was not

"angry" at all. This is simply a strong disagreement and no emotions are

involved, as far as I am concerned.> > > Basic aim of Sadhana is to obtain > >

gyana in Adhyatma. You can obtain knowledge by many means like by > >

Gyana,Raj,or Bhakti yoga. Kundalini yoga is subclass of Raja yoga. > > Now to

say that those who follow Gyana or Bhakti marga will also > > expirence KA is

very bold statement.> > It is not a bold statement but a simple fact that

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