Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Respected Sirs, I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhava is good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement in any bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct? As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite. That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is positioned and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. Scholars please clarify. Regards, Jyothi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhava is good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement in any bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct?As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite. That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is positioned and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. Scholars please clarify.Regards,Jyothi Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Dear sir, Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do you feel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children (assuming no other affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any bhava where LL is placed), will that bhava prosper or suffer by the Lagna lord placement. Can you make that clear, if you dont mind please? In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord is in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placed there(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I have understood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in some sjc site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th bhava(depriving the life force). This is what confusing me. I would like to know which is correct. Regards, jyothi vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner <vedicastro_mind> wrote: > > Namaste Madam, > > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus should contiribute to incresae our knolwedge. > > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have asked the other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will give "mix" reading. Good as well as bad, > as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as per our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in case of my friend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle abroad but 12th house also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be taken care off. > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is positioned and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's. > Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my knowledge. > I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dat house becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of exaltation shouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to the seed. > > Regards, > Troubled Soul. > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > Respected Sirs, > > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhava is > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement in any > bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct? > > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite. > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is positioned > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > Scholars please clarify. > > > Regards, > Jyothi > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Dear Ms.Jyothi Lakshmi, According to the classics, Lagna lord in 5th WILL adversely affect relationship with progeny. The first child of such a native will not survive in most cases which dictum has also been proved corrected practically in countless cases in my astrological experience. The native will also find it difficult to experience a sense of freedom being dependent upon/ constrained by others and circumstances even if there are no evil planets afflicting this 5th house if lagna lord is in the 5th. IF the 5th house is well-fortified by benefics, the native will propitiate a Deity as signified by the 5th lord and has the potential to attain God-realization. Intuitive dreams usually foretell impending events to these natives. Now about the placement of lagna lord in 12th house..... If lagna lord is in the 12th, occult tendencies increase. The native will suffer many losses in business enterprises. Lot of visits to kshetras will be experienced. The native will spend on charitable causes and will even exhaust all inherited property on meritorious deeds and dedicate the self for a common cause. The end will be peaceful and sudden. Blessed be. - In vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > Dear sir, > > > > Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do > you feel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children > (assuming no other affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to > know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any > bhava where LL is placed), will that bhava prosper or suffer by the > Lagna lord placement. Can you make that clear, if you dont mind > please? > > In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord is > in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placed > there(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I have > understood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in > some sjc site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th > bhava(depriving the life force). This is what confusing me. I would > like to know which is correct. > > Regards, > jyothi > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner > <vedicastro_mind> wrote: > > > > Namaste Madam, > > > > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus should > contiribute to incresae our knolwedge. > > > > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have asked > the other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will > give "mix" reading. Good as well as bad, > > as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as per > our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in case > of my friend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle abroad > but 12th house also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be > taken care off. > > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > positioned and that the native will experience good results of that > bhava. But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's. > > Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my > knowledge. > > I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dat > house becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of > exaltation shouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by > malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to > the seed. > > > > Regards, > > Troubled Soul. > > > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > Respected Sirs, > > > > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhava > is > > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement in > any > > bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for > > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct? > > > > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite. > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > positioned > > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > > Scholars please clarify. > > > > > > Regards, > > Jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://au.messenger. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Dear Sir, Thanks. I value your opinion. Just wanted to confirm because of contradicting dictums. Thanks & regards, Jyothi vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > Dear Ms.Jyothi Lakshmi, > > According to the classics, Lagna lord in 5th WILL adversely affect > relationship with progeny. The first child of such a native will not > survive in most cases which dictum has also been proved corrected > practically in countless cases in my astrological experience. The > native will also find it difficult to experience a sense of freedom > being dependent upon/ constrained by others and circumstances even if > there are no evil planets afflicting this 5th house if lagna lord is > in the 5th. > > IF the 5th house is well-fortified by benefics, the native will > propitiate a Deity as signified by the 5th lord and has the potential > to attain God-realization. Intuitive dreams usually foretell > impending events to these natives. > > Now about the placement of lagna lord in 12th house..... > > If lagna lord is in the 12th, occult tendencies increase. The native > will suffer many losses in business enterprises. Lot of visits to > kshetras will be experienced. The native will spend on charitable > causes and will even exhaust all inherited property on meritorious > deeds and dedicate the self for a common cause. The end will be > peaceful and sudden. > > Blessed be. > > - In vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > Dear sir, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do > > you feel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children > > (assuming no other affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to > > know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any > > bhava where LL is placed), will that bhava prosper or suffer by the > > Lagna lord placement. Can you make that clear, if you dont mind > > please? > > > > In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord > is > > in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placed > > there(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I > have > > understood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in > > some sjc site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th > > bhava(depriving the life force). This is what confusing me. I would > > like to know which is correct. > > > > Regards, > > jyothi > > > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner > > <vedicastro_mind> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Madam, > > > > > > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus should > > contiribute to incresae our knolwedge. > > > > > > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have asked > > the other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will > > give "mix" reading. Good as well as bad, > > > as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as > per > > our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in > case > > of my friend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle > abroad > > but 12th house also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be > > taken care off. > > > > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > > positioned and that the native will experience good results of that > > bhava. But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's. > > > Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my > > knowledge. > > > I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dat > > house becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of > > exaltation shouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by > > malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to > > the seed. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Troubled Soul. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a > bhava > > is > > > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement in > > any > > > bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > > > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune > for > > > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct? > > > > > > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the > opposite. > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > > positioned > > > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > > > Scholars please clarify. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://au.messenger. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer> wrote:>> Dear Ms.Jyothi Lakshmi,> > According to the classics, Lagna lord in 5th WILL adversely affect > relationship with progeny. The first child of such a native will not > survive in most cases which dictum has also been proved corrected > practically in countless cases in my astrological experience. The > native will also find it difficult to experience a sense of freedom > being dependent upon/ constrained by others and circumstances even if > there are no evil planets afflicting this 5th house if lagna lord is > in the 5th.> > IF the 5th house is well-fortified by benefics, the native will > propitiate a Deity as signified by the 5th lord and has the potential > to attain God-realization. Intuitive dreams usually foretell > impending events to these natives.> > Now about the placement of lagna lord in 12th house.....> > If lagna lord is in the 12th, occult tendencies increase. The native > will suffer many losses in business enterprises. Lot of visits to > kshetras will be experienced. The native will spend on charitable > causes and will even exhaust all inherited property on meritorious > deeds and dedicate the self for a common cause. The end will be > peaceful and sudden.> > Blessed be.> > - In vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> >> > Dear sir,> > > > > > > > Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do > > you feel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children> > (assuming no other affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to > > know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any > > bhava where LL is placed), will that bhava prosper or suffer by the > > Lagna lord placement. Can you make that clear, if you dont mind > > please? > > > > In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord > is > > in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placed > > there(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I > have > > understood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in > > some sjc site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th > > bhava(depriving the life force). This is what confusing me. I would > > like to know which is correct.> > > > Regards,> > jyothi> > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner > > <vedicastro_mind> wrote:> > >> > > Namaste Madam,> > > > > > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus should > > contiribute to incresae our knolwedge.> > > > > > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have asked > > the other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will > > give "mix" reading. Good as well as bad,> > > as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as > per > > our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in > case > > of my friend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle > abroad > > but 12th house also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be > > taken care off.> > > > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > > positioned and that the native will experience good results of that > > bhava. But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's.> > > Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my > > knowledge.> > > I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dat > > house becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of > > exaltation shouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by > > malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to > > the seed.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Troubled Soul.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > > Respected Sirs,> > > > > > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a > bhava > > is > > > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement in > > any > > > bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > > > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune > for > > > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct?> > > > > > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the > opposite. > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > > positioned > > > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > > > Scholars please clarify.> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > Jyothi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Dear Sir, Along the same line, then the Lagna lord in 7th will harm the marital relationship/ partnerships etc, in 4th will harm mother, property, in 9th father etc. (Have I understood correctly?) From your experience, have you found any proofs for these? What about Lagna lord in Lagna itself? In this case, it should be detrimental to the native itself(health, longevity reduced?)Could you please clarify a little more based on my doubts? Regards, jyothi vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > Dear Ms.Jyothi Lakshmi, > > According to the classics, Lagna lord in 5th WILL adversely affect > relationship with progeny. The first child of such a native will not > survive in most cases which dictum has also been proved corrected > practically in countless cases in my astrological experience. The > native will also find it difficult to experience a sense of freedom > being dependent upon/ constrained by others and circumstances even if > there are no evil planets afflicting this 5th house if lagna lord is > in the 5th. > > IF the 5th house is well-fortified by benefics, the native will > propitiate a Deity as signified by the 5th lord and has the potential > to attain God-realization. Intuitive dreams usually foretell > impending events to these natives. > > Now about the placement of lagna lord in 12th house..... > > If lagna lord is in the 12th, occult tendencies increase. The native > will suffer many losses in business enterprises. Lot of visits to > kshetras will be experienced. The native will spend on charitable > causes and will even exhaust all inherited property on meritorious > deeds and dedicate the self for a common cause. The end will be > peaceful and sudden. > > Blessed be. > > - In vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > Dear sir, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do > > you feel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children > > (assuming no other affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to > > know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any > > bhava where LL is placed), will that bhava prosper or suffer by the > > Lagna lord placement. Can you make that clear, if you dont mind > > please? > > > > In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord > is > > in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placed > > there(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I > have > > understood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in > > some sjc site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th > > bhava(depriving the life force). This is what confusing me. I would > > like to know which is correct. > > > > Regards, > > jyothi > > > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner > > <vedicastro_mind> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Madam, > > > > > > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus should > > contiribute to incresae our knolwedge. > > > > > > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have asked > > the other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will > > give "mix" reading. Good as well as bad, > > > as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as > per > > our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in > case > > of my friend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle > abroad > > but 12th house also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be > > taken care off. > > > > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > > positioned and that the native will experience good results of that > > bhava. But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's. > > > Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my > > knowledge. > > > I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dat > > house becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of > > exaltation shouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by > > malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to > > the seed. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Troubled Soul. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a > bhava > > is > > > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement in > > any > > > bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > > > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune > for > > > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct? > > > > > > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the > opposite. > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > > positioned > > > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > > > Scholars please clarify. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://au.messenger. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 The classics dictum (putra bhaava lord placed in lagna)seemingly hold good only when natural putrakaarakas-Sun/Jupiter are weak/and or seriouslyafflicted . "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer (AT) (DOT) co.in> vedic astrologyTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effectsThu, 15 Dec 2005 08:13:08 -0000Dear Ms.Jyothi Lakshmi,According to the classics, Lagna lord in 5th WILL adversely affect relationship with progeny. The first child of such a native will not survive in most cases which dictum has also been proved corrected practically in countless cases in my astrological experience. The native will also find it difficult to experience a sense of freedom being dependent upon/ constrained by others and circumstances even if there are no evil planets afflicting this 5th house if lagna lord is in the 5th.IF the 5th house is well-fortified by benefics, the native will propitiate a Deity as signified by the 5th lord and has the potential to attain God-realization. Intuitive dreams usually foretell impending events to these natives.Now about the placement of lagna lord in 12th house.....If lagna lord is in the 12th, occult tendencies increase. The native will suffer many losses in business enterprises. Lot of visits to kshetras will be experienced. The native will spend on charitable causes and will even exhaust all inherited property on meritorious deeds and dedicate the self for a common cause. The end will be peaceful and sudden.Blessed be.- In vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:>> Dear sir,> > > > Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do > you feel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children> (assuming no other affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to > know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any > bhava where LL is placed), will that bhava prosper or suffer by the > Lagna lord placement. Can you make that clear, if you dont mind > please? > > In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord is > in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placed > there(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I have > understood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in > some sjc site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th > bhava(depriving the life force). This is what confusing me. I would > like to know which is correct.> > Regards,> jyothi> > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner > <vedicastro_mind> wrote:> >> > Namaste Madam,> > > > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus should > contiribute to incresae our knolwedge.> > > > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have asked > the other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will > give "mix" reading. Good as well as bad,> > as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as per > our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in case > of my friend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle abroad > but 12th house also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be > taken care off.> > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > positioned and that the native will experience good results of that > bhava. But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's.> > Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my > knowledge.> > I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dat > house becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of > exaltation shouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by > malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to > the seed.> > > > Regards,> > Troubled Soul.> > > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > Respected Sirs,> > > > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhava > is > > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement in > any > > bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for > > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct?> > > > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite. > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > positioned > > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > > Scholars please clarify.> > > > > > Regards,> > Jyothi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://au.messenger.> >>Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer> wrote:>> Dear Ms.Jyothi Lakshmi,> > According to the classics, Lagna lord in 5th WILL adversely affect > relationship with progeny. The first child of such a native will not > survive in most cases which dictum has also been proved corrected > practically in countless cases in my astrological experience. The > native will also find it difficult to experience a sense of freedom > being dependent upon/ constrained by others and circumstances even if > there are no evil planets afflicting this 5th house if lagna lord is > in the 5th.> > IF the 5th house is well-fortified by benefics, the native will > propitiate a Deity as signified by the 5th lord and has the potential > to attain God-realization. Intuitive dreams usually foretell > impending events to these natives.> > Now about the placement of lagna lord in 12th house.....> > If lagna lord is in the 12th, occult tendencies increase. The native > will suffer many losses in business enterprises. Lot of visits to > kshetras will be experienced. The native will spend on charitable > causes and will even exhaust all inherited property on meritorious > deeds and dedicate the self for a common cause. The end will be > peaceful and sudden.> > Blessed be.> > - In vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> >> > Dear sir,> > > > > > > > Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do > > you feel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children> > (assuming no other affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to > > know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any > > bhava where LL is placed), will that bhava prosper or suffer by the > > Lagna lord placement. Can you make that clear, if you dont mind > > please? > > > > In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord > is > > in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placed > > there(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I > have > > understood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in > > some sjc site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th > > bhava(depriving the life force). This is what confusing me. I would > > like to know which is correct.> > > > Regards,> > jyothi> > > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner > > <vedicastro_mind> wrote:> > >> > > Namaste Madam,> > > > > > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus should > > contiribute to incresae our knolwedge.> > > > > > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have asked > > the other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will > > give "mix" reading. Good as well as bad,> > > as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as > per > > our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in > case > > of my friend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle > abroad > > but 12th house also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be > > taken care off.> > > > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > > positioned and that the native will experience good results of that > > bhava. But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's.> > > Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my > > knowledge.> > > I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dat > > house becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of > > exaltation shouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by > > malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to > > the seed.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Troubled Soul.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > > Respected Sirs,> > > > > > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a > bhava > > is > > > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement in > > any > > > bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > > > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune > for > > > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct?> > > > > > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the > opposite. > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > > positioned > > > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > > > Scholars please clarify.> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > Jyothi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Dear Jyotisha's This article would help :http://www.srigaruda.com/archives/lagnesha.htm Regards Rafal Gendarz - adavi srinivasamurthy vedic astrology Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:41 AM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Dear Members The classics dictum (putra bhaava lord placed in lagna)seemingly hold good only when natural putrakaarakas-Sun/Jupiter are weak/and or seriouslyafflicted . "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer (AT) (DOT) co.in> vedic astrologyTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effectsThu, 15 Dec 2005 08:13:08 -0000Dear Ms.Jyothi Lakshmi,According to the classics, Lagna lord in 5th WILL adversely affect relationship with progeny. The first child of such a native will not survive in most cases which dictum has also been proved corrected practically in countless cases in my astrological experience. The native will also find it difficult to experience a sense of freedom being dependent upon/ constrained by others and circumstances even if there are no evil planets afflicting this 5th house if lagna lord is in the 5th.IF the 5th house is well-fortified by benefics, the native will propitiate a Deity as signified by the 5th lord and has the potential to attain God-realization. Intuitive dreams usually foretell impending events to these natives.Now about the placement of lagna lord in 12th house.....If lagna lord is in the 12th, occult tendencies increase. The native will suffer many losses in business enterprises. Lot of visits to kshetras will be experienced. The native will spend on charitable causes and will even exhaust all inherited property on meritorious deeds and dedicate the self for a common cause. The end will be peaceful and sudden.Blessed be.- In vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:>> Dear sir,> > > > Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do > you feel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children> (assuming no other affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to > know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any > bhava where LL is placed), will that bhava prosper or suffer by the > Lagna lord placement. Can you make that clear, if you dont mind > please? > > In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord is > in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placed > there(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I have > understood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in > some sjc site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th > bhava(depriving the life force). This is what confusing me. I would > like to know which is correct.> > Regards,> jyothi> > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner > <vedicastro_mind> wrote:> >> > Namaste Madam,> > > > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus should > contiribute to incresae our knolwedge.> > > > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have asked > the other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will > give "mix" reading. Good as well as bad,> > as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as per > our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in case > of my friend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle abroad > but 12th house also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be > taken care off.> > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > positioned and that the native will experience good results of that > bhava. But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's.> > Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my > knowledge.> > I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dat > house becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of > exaltation shouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by > malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to > the seed.> > > > Regards,> > Troubled Soul.> > > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > Respected Sirs,> > > > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhava > is > > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement in > any > > bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for > > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct?> > > > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite. > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > positioned > > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > > Scholars please clarify.> > > > > > Regards,> > Jyothi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://au.messenger.> >>Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Dear member (dakshinastrologer), According to BPHS,lagna lord in trines and kendras brings physical comforts. Particularly LL in 5th or vice versa is a Yog which gives all comforts from the progeny apart from the Rajyog through linkage of kendra/kona houses. Lagu Parashari in particular praises the LL and says that even if it is in a dusthana, it will still not bring trouble. Please enlighten me which are these classics you are referring to which tell about the contrary results of Lagna lord. Pran Razdan vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer> wrote: > > Dear Ms.Jyothi Lakshmi, > > According to the classics, Lagna lord in 5th WILL adversely affect > relationship with progeny. The first child of such a native will not > survive in most cases which dictum has also been proved corrected > practically in countless cases in my astrological experience. The > native will also find it difficult to experience a sense of freedom > being dependent upon/ constrained by others and circumstances even if > there are no evil planets afflicting this 5th house if lagna lord is > in the 5th. > > IF the 5th house is well-fortified by benefics, the native will > propitiate a Deity as signified by the 5th lord and has the potential > to attain God-realization. Intuitive dreams usually foretell > impending events to these natives. > > Now about the placement of lagna lord in 12th house..... > > If lagna lord is in the 12th, occult tendencies increase. The native > will suffer many losses in business enterprises. Lot of visits to > kshetras will be experienced. The native will spend on charitable > causes and will even exhaust all inherited property on meritorious > deeds and dedicate the self for a common cause. The end will be > peaceful and sudden. > > Blessed be. > > - In vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > > Dear sir, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do > > you feel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children > > (assuming no other affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to > > know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any > > bhava where LL is placed), will that bhava prosper or suffer by the > > Lagna lord placement. Can you make that clear, if you dont mind > > please? > > > > In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord > is > > in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placed > > there(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I > have > > understood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in > > some sjc site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th > > bhava(depriving the life force). This is what confusing me. I would > > like to know which is correct. > > > > Regards, > > jyothi > > > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner > > <vedicastro_mind> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Madam, > > > > > > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus should > > contiribute to incresae our knolwedge. > > > > > > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have asked > > the other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will > > give "mix" reading. Good as well as bad, > > > as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as > per > > our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in > case > > of my friend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle > abroad > > but 12th house also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be > > taken care off. > > > > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > > positioned and that the native will experience good results of that > > bhava. But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's. > > > Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my > > knowledge. > > > I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dat > > house becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of > > exaltation shouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by > > malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to > > the seed. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Troubled Soul. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > > Respected Sirs, > > > > > > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a > bhava > > is > > > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement in > > any > > > bh�va will deprive that bh�va of the life-force and give it to the > > > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune > for > > > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct? > > > > > > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the > opposite. > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > > positioned > > > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > > > Scholars please clarify. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://au.messenger. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 "dakshinastrologer"<dakshinastrologer> wrote:>> Dear Ms.Jyothi Lakshmi,> > According to the classics, Lagna lord in 5th WILL adversely affect > relationship with progeny. The first child of such a native will not > survive in most cases which dictum has also been proved corrected > practically in countless cases in my astrological experience. The > native will also find it difficult to experience a sense of freedom > being dependent upon/ constrained by others and circumstances even if > there are no evil planets afflicting this 5th house if lagna lord is > in the 5th.> > IF the 5th house is well-fortified by benefics, the native will > propitiate a Deity as signified by the 5th lord and has the potential > to attain God-realization. Intuitive dreams usually foretell > impending events to these natives.> > Now about the placement of lagna lord in 12th house.....> > If lagna lord is in the 12th, occult tendencies increase. The native > will suffer many losses in business enterprises. Lot of visits to > kshetras will be experienced. The native will spend on charitable > causes and will even exhaust all inherited property on meritorious > deeds and dedicate the self for a common cause. The end will be > peaceful and sudden.> > Blessed be.> > - In vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> >> > Dear sir,> > > > > > > > Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do > > you feel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children> > (assuming no other affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to > > know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any > > bhava where LL is placed), will that bhava prosper or suffer by the > > Lagna lord placement. Can you make that clear, if you dont mind > > please? > > > > In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord > is > > in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placed > > there(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I > have > > understood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in > > some sjc site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th > > bhava(depriving the life force). This is what confusing me. I would > > like to know which is correct.> > > > Regards,> > jyothi> > > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner > > <vedicastro_mind> wrote:> > >> > > Namaste Madam,> > > > > > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus should > > contiribute to incresae our knolwedge.> > > > > > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have asked > > the other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will > > give "mix" reading. Good as well as bad,> > > as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as > per > > our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in > case > > of my friend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle > abroad > > but 12th house also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be > > taken care off.> > > > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > > positioned and that the native will experience good results of that > > bhava. But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's.> > > Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my > > knowledge.> > > I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dat > > house becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of > > exaltation shouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by > > malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to > > the seed.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Troubled Soul.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > > Respected Sirs,> > > > > > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a > bhava > > is > > > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement in > > any > > > bh�va will deprive that bh�va of the life-force and give it to the > > > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune > for > > > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct?> > > > > > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the > opposite. > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > > positioned > > > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > > > Scholars please clarify.> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > Jyothi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Jyoti, Generally house of placement becomes the resource and houses owned are the agenda of the planet. Placement of LL in 5H (trine) is good for Lagna but not so good for 5H matters like children. Placement in 8H is not so good for longevity, in 9H may not be so good for father. I think Visti has covered this subject well in his latest book. Best Wishes, Ramesh vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmi Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:39 AM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Dear sir, Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do you feel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children (assuming no other affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any bhava where LL is placed), will that bhava prosper or suffer by the Lagna lord placement. Can you make that clear, if you dont mind please? In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord is in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placed there(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I have understood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in some sjc site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th bhava(depriving the life force). This is what confusing me. I would like to know which is correct. Regards, jyothi vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner <vedicastro_mind> wrote: > > Namaste Madam, > > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus should contiribute to incresae our knolwedge. > > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have asked the other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will give "mix" reading. Good as well as bad, > as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as per our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in case of my friend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle abroad but 12th house also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be taken care off. > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is positioned and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's. > Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my knowledge. > I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dat house becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of exaltation shouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to the seed. > > Regards, > Troubled Soul. > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > Respected Sirs, > > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhava is > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement in any > bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct? > > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite. > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is positioned > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > Scholars please clarify. > > > Regards, > Jyothi > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM --~-> Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Yes , the ll in the fifith is considered good, but what about if it is in parivartane state check this 10th march 1974 bombay,06:30am morning regards Prashu On 12/16/05, Ramesh F. Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com> wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Jyoti,Generally house of placement becomes the resource and houses owned are the agenda of the planet. Placement of LL in 5H (trine) is good for Lagna butnot so good for 5H matters like children. Placement in 8H is not so good forlongevity, in 9H may not be so good for father. I think Visti has covered this subject well in his latest book.Best Wishes,Ramesh-----Original Message-----vedic astrology[ vedic astrology] On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmiThursday, December 15, 2005 2:39 AMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Dear sir,Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do youfeel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children (assuming noother affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any bhava where LL is placed),will that bhava prosper or suffer by the Lagna lord placement. Can you makethat clear, if you dont mind please? In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord is in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placedthere(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I haveunderstood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in some sjc site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th bhava(deprivingthe life force). This is what confusing me. I would like to know which iscorrect.Regards,jyothi vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner<vedicastro_mind> wrote:>> Namaste Madam,>> Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus shouldcontiribute to incresae our knolwedge. >> That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have askedthe other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will give "mix"reading. Good as well as bad,> as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as per our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in case of myfriend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle abroad but 12thhouse also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be taken care off. >> That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned and that the native will experience good results of that bhava.But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's.> Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my knowledge.> I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dathouse becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of exaltationshouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to the seed.>> Regards,> Troubled Soul.>>>>> jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> Respected Sirs, >> I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhavais> good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement inany> bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for> children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct?>> As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite. > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned> and that the native will experience good results of that bhava.> Scholars please clarify.>>> Regards,> Jyothi >>>>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... >> >>>> > >>> Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. >> > vedic astrology>> Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service.>>> >>>>>>> Send instant messages to your online friendshttp://au.messenger. >------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Joinmodern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM--~->Archives: vedic astrology Group info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ........ Links ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~-->Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM--~->Archives: vedic astrology Group info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ........ Links<*> vedic astrology/<*> To from this group, send an email to: vedic astrology<*> Your use of is subject to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Prashant, In case of parivartana the planets are like in their own house and hence unlikely to harm the house of placement. Parivartana between in 1L and 5L is also a rajayoga. All this if seen in isolation. The impact of other placements need to keep in my mind. Best Wishes, Ramesh vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Prashant DoshiThursday, December 15, 2005 8:49 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Dear Ramesh ji, Yes , the ll in the fifith is considered good, but what about if it is in parivartane state check this 10th march 1974 bombay,06:30am morning regards Prashu On 12/16/05, Ramesh F. Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com> wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Jyoti,Generally house of placement becomes the resource and houses owned are the agenda of the planet. Placement of LL in 5H (trine) is good for Lagna butnot so good for 5H matters like children. Placement in 8H is not so good forlongevity, in 9H may not be so good for father. I think Visti has covered this subject well in his latest book.Best Wishes,Ramesh vedic astrology[ vedic astrology] On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmiThursday, December 15, 2005 2:39 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Dear sir,Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do youfeel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children (assuming noother affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any bhava where LL is placed),will that bhava prosper or suffer by the Lagna lord placement. Can you makethat clear, if you dont mind please? In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord is in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placedthere(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I haveunderstood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in some sjcsite), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th bhava(deprivingthe life force). This is what confusing me. I would like to know which iscorrect.Regards,jyothivedic astrology, Jyotish Learner<vedicastro_mind> wrote:>> Namaste Madam,>> Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus shouldcontiribute to incresae our knolwedge. >> That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have askedthe other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will give "mix"reading. Good as well as bad,> as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as per our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in case of myfriend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle abroad but 12thhouse also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be taken care off. >> That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned and that the native will experience good results of that bhava.But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's.> Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my knowledge.> I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dathouse becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of exaltationshouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to the seed.>> Regards,> Troubled Soul.>>>>> jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> Respected Sirs, >> I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhavais> good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement inany> bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for> children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct?>> As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite.> That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned> and that the native will experience good results of that bhava.> Scholars please clarify.>>> Regards,> Jyothi >>>>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... >> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||>>>> > >>> Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. >> To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology>> Your use of is subject to the >>> >>>>>>> Send instant messages to your online friendshttp://au.messenger. >------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Joinmodern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healinghttp://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM--~->Archives: vedic astrology Group info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Then in the case given , does it not form a raj yoga ????, what other effects should i consider . i mean which angle should i look in pls dont mind i ask as i am just learning regards Prashu On 12/16/05, Ramesh F. Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com> wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Prashant, In case of parivartana the planets are like in their own house and hence unlikely to harm the house of placement. Parivartana between in 1L and 5L is also a rajayoga. All this if seen in isolation. The impact of other placements need to keep in my mind. Best Wishes, Ramesh vedic astrology [ vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Prashant DoshiThursday, December 15, 2005 8:49 PM vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Dear Ramesh ji, Yes , the ll in the fifith is considered good, but what about if it is in parivartane state check this 10th march 1974 bombay,06:30am morning regards Prashu On 12/16/05, Ramesh F. Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com > wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Jyoti,Generally house of placement becomes the resource and houses owned are the agenda of the planet. Placement of LL in 5H (trine) is good for Lagna butnot so good for 5H matters like children. Placement in 8H is not so good forlongevity, in 9H may not be so good for father. I think Visti has covered this subject well in his latest book.Best Wishes,Ramesh vedic astrology[ vedic astrology] On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmi Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:39 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Dear sir,Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do youfeel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children (assuming noother affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any bhava where LL is placed),will that bhava prosper or suffer by the Lagna lord placement. Can you makethat clear, if you dont mind please? In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord is in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placedthere(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I haveunderstood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in some sjc site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th bhava(deprivingthe life force). This is what confusing me. I would like to know which iscorrect.Regards,jyothi vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner<vedicastro_mind> wrote:>> Namaste Madam,>> Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus shouldcontiribute to incresae our knolwedge. >> That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have askedthe other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will give "mix"reading. Good as well as bad,> as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as per our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in case of myfriend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle abroad but 12thhouse also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be taken care off. >> That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned and that the native will experience good results of that bhava.But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's.> Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my knowledge.> I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dathouse becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of exaltationshouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to the seed.>> Regards,> Troubled Soul.>>>>> jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> Respected Sirs, >> I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhavais> good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement inany> bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for> children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct?>> As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite. > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned> and that the native will experience good results of that bhava.> Scholars please clarify.>>> Regards,> Jyothi >>>>>>> Archives: vedic astrology >> >> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... >> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||>>>> > >>> Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. >> To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology>> Your use of is subject to the >>> >>> >>>> Send instant messages to your online friendshttp://au.messenger. >------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Joinmodern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM--~->Archives: vedic astrology Group info: vedic astrology/info.html || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Links------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM--~->Archives: vedic astrology Group info: vedic astrology/info.html || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: vedic astrology/<*> To from this group, send an email to: vedic astrology<*> Your use of is subject to: Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.html || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Astrology chart Astrology reading Vedic astrology Divination tool Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Prashant, Rajayoga is formed here too and will give its results. 5H issues however can be impacted by placement of Ketu, probably having to stay away from children. Best Wishes, Ramesh vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Prashant DoshiThursday, December 15, 2005 10:22 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Dear Ramesh ji, Then in the case given , does it not form a raj yoga ????, what other effects should i consider . i mean which angle should i look in pls dont mind i ask as i am just learning regards Prashu On 12/16/05, Ramesh F. Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com> wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Prashant, In case of parivartana the planets are like in their own house and hence unlikely to harm the house of placement. Parivartana between in 1L and 5L is also a rajayoga. All this if seen in isolation. The impact of other placements need to keep in my mind. Best Wishes, Ramesh vedic astrology [ vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Prashant DoshiThursday, December 15, 2005 8:49 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Dear Ramesh ji, Yes , the ll in the fifith is considered good, but what about if it is in parivartane state check this 10th march 1974 bombay,06:30am morning regards Prashu On 12/16/05, Ramesh F. Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com > wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Jyoti,Generally house of placement becomes the resource and houses owned are the agenda of the planet. Placement of LL in 5H (trine) is good for Lagna butnot so good for 5H matters like children. Placement in 8H is not so good forlongevity, in 9H may not be so good for father. I think Visti has covered this subject well in his latest book.Best Wishes,Ramesh vedic astrology[ vedic astrology] On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmi Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:39 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Dear sir,Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do youfeel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children (assuming noother affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any bhava where LL is placed),will that bhava prosper or suffer by the Lagna lord placement. Can you makethat clear, if you dont mind please? In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord is in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placedthere(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I haveunderstood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in some sjcsite), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th bhava(deprivingthe life force). This is what confusing me. I would like to know which iscorrect.Regards,jyothivedic astrology, Jyotish Learner<vedicastro_mind> wrote:>> Namaste Madam,>> Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus shouldcontiribute to incresae our knolwedge. >> That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have askedthe other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will give "mix"reading. Good as well as bad,> as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as per our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in case of myfriend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle abroad but 12thhouse also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be taken care off. >> That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned and that the native will experience good results of that bhava.But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's.> Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my knowledge.> I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dathouse becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of exaltationshouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to the seed.>> Regards,> Troubled Soul.>>>>> jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> Respected Sirs, >> I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhavais> good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement inany> bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for> children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct?>> As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite.> That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned> and that the native will experience good results of that bhava.> Scholars please clarify.>>> Regards,> Jyothi >>>>>>> >> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html >> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 one question , does ketu in the fifith diney children, or is it that due to traveling for my job or work related which keep me away from my kids??? On 12/16/05, Ramesh F. Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com> wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Prashant, Rajayoga is formed here too and will give its results. 5H issues however can be impacted by placement of Ketu, probably having to stay away from children. Best Wishes, Ramesh vedic astrology [ vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Prashant DoshiThursday, December 15, 2005 10:22 PM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Dear Ramesh ji, Then in the case given , does it not form a raj yoga ????, what other effects should i consider . i mean which angle should i look in pls dont mind i ask as i am just learning regards Prashu On 12/16/05, Ramesh F. Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com > wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Prashant, In case of parivartana the planets are like in their own house and hence unlikely to harm the house of placement. Parivartana between in 1L and 5L is also a rajayoga. All this if seen in isolation. The impact of other placements need to keep in my mind. Best Wishes, Ramesh vedic astrology [ vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Prashant DoshiThursday, December 15, 2005 8:49 PM vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Dear Ramesh ji, Yes , the ll in the fifith is considered good, but what about if it is in parivartane state check this 10th march 1974 bombay,06:30am morning regards Prashu On 12/16/05, Ramesh F. Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com > wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Jyoti,Generally house of placement becomes the resource and houses owned are the agenda of the planet. Placement of LL in 5H (trine) is good for Lagna butnot so good for 5H matters like children. Placement in 8H is not so good forlongevity, in 9H may not be so good for father. I think Visti has covered this subject well in his latest book.Best Wishes,Ramesh vedic astrology[ vedic astrology] On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmi Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:39 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Dear sir,Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do youfeel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children (assuming noother affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any bhava where LL is placed),will that bhava prosper or suffer by the Lagna lord placement. Can you makethat clear, if you dont mind please? In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord is in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placedthere(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I haveunderstood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in some sjc site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th bhava(deprivingthe life force). This is what confusing me. I would like to know which iscorrect.Regards,jyothi vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner<vedicastro_mind> wrote:>> Namaste Madam,>> Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus shouldcontiribute to incresae our knolwedge. >> That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have askedthe other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will give "mix"reading. Good as well as bad,> as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as per our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in case of myfriend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle abroad but 12thhouse also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be taken care off. >> That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned and that the native will experience good results of that bhava.But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's.> Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my knowledge.> I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dathouse becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of exaltationshouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to the seed.>> Regards,> Troubled Soul.>>>>> jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> Respected Sirs, >> I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhavais> good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement inany> bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for> children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct?>> As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite. > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned> and that the native will experience good results of that bhava.> Scholars please clarify.>>> Regards,> Jyothi >>>>>>> Archives: vedic astrology >> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html >> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:39 AMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effectsDear sir, Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do youfeel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children (assuming noother affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to know, in such a case,where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any bhava where LL is placed),will that bhava prosper or suffer by the Lagna lord placement. Can you makethat clear, if you dont mind please? In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord is in adusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placedthere(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I haveunderstood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in some sjcsite), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th bhava(deprivingthe life force). This is what confusing me. I would like to know which iscorrect.Regards,jyothivedic astrology, Jyotish Learner<vedicastro_mind> wrote:>> Namaste Madam,> > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus shouldcontiribute to incresae our knolwedge.> > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have askedthe other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will give "mix"reading. Good as well as bad,> as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as perour classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in case of myfriend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle abroad but 12thhouse also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be taken care off.> > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned and that the native will experience good results of that bhava.But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's.> Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per myknowledge.> I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dathouse becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of exaltationshouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by malefic and argalais imp after all argals only yield the fruit to the seed.> > Regards,> Troubled Soul.> > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> Respected Sirs,> > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhavais > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement inany > bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct?> > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite. > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > Scholars please clarify.> > > Regards,> Jyothi> > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > ! GROUPS LINKS> > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > > vedic astrology> > Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms ofService. > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friendshttp://au.messenger.>------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Joinmodern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healinghttp://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM--~-> Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Links Asha Kamath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Hi, What would be the case for asc with 2 lords, say Scorpio with Ketu in 5th house? Would that constitute a Raj Yoga. Also, since Ketu is in its own sign will the negative aspect be reduced? Birth details : 25th Sep 1978 12:15 pm Mumbai. Regards, Krishna --- "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" <ramesh.gangaramani wrote: > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Prashant, > Rajayoga is formed here too and will give its > results. 5H issues however can > be impacted by placement of Ketu, probably having to > stay away from > children. > Best Wishes, > Ramesh > > > _____ > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf > Of Prashant Doshi > Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:22 PM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord > effects > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > Then in the case given , does it not form a raj yoga > ????, what other > effects should i consider . i mean which angle > should i look in > > pls dont mind i ask as i am just learning > > regards > > Prashu > > > On 12/16/05, Ramesh F. Gangaramani > <ramesh.gangaramani wrote: > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Prashant, > In case of parivartana the planets are like in their > own house and hence > unlikely to harm the house of placement. Parivartana > between in 1L and 5L is > also a rajayoga. All this if seen in isolation. The > impact of other > placements need to keep in my mind. > Best Wishes, > Ramesh > > > > _____ > > vedic astrology [ > <vedic astrology> > vedic astrology] On > Behalf Of Prashant Doshi > Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:49 PM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord > effects > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > Yes , the ll in the fifith is considered good, but > what about if it is in > parivartane state > > check this > > 10th march 1974 > bombay,06:30am morning > > regards > > Prashu > > > On 12/16/05, Ramesh F. Gangaramani > <ramesh.gangaramani > <ramesh.gangaramani > wrote: > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Jyoti, > Generally house of placement becomes the resource > and houses owned are the > agenda of the planet. Placement of LL in 5H (trine) > is good for Lagna but > not so good for 5H matters like children. Placement > in 8H is not so good for > longevity, in 9H may not be so good for father. I > think Visti has covered > this subject well in his latest book. > Best Wishes, > Ramesh > > > > > vedic astrology > [ <vedic astrology> > vedic astrology] On Behalf Of > jyothi_b_lakshmi > Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:39 AM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects > > Dear sir, > > > > Thanks for the information. But according to the > first dictum, do you > feel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the > children (assuming no > other affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to > know, in such a case, > where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any bhava > where LL is placed), > will that bhava prosper or suffer by the Lagna lord > placement. Can you make > that clear, if you dont mind please? > > In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer > because its lord is in a > dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because > LL is placed > there(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? > This is what I have > understood so far. But according to what I read > recently (it was in some sjc > site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects > of 12th bhava(depriving > the life force). This is what confusing me. I would > like to know which is > correct. > > Regards, > jyothi > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish > Learner > <vedicastro_mind> wrote: > > > > Namaste Madam, > > > > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro > gurus should > contiribute to incresae our knolwedge. > > > > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u > should have asked > the other way round bhava in general cant be studied > as it will give "mix" > reading. Good as well as bad, > > as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is > always good as per > our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is > also not bad in case of my > friend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to > settle abroad but 12th > house also indicate some negative aspects dat he > should be taken care off. > > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava > wherever it is > positioned and that the native will experience good > results of that bhava. > But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's. > > Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this > is as per my > knowledge. > > I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for > sure short dat > house becomes strong IF alone and in friends house > or house of exaltation > shouldnot debilated and exalted and if not > aspected by malefic and argala > is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to the > seed. > > > > Regards, > > Troubled Soul. > > > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > Respected Sirs, > > > > I would like to know if the effect of > Lagna lord in a bhava > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Please see the effects of Bhava Lords extracted from BHPS.Please see the sentence in bold/red. The below are the generic dictums subject to modifications as is the case with any yoga or configuration of chart.The modifications will vary in degree of effect /fructification/duration depending upon the configuration of the individual charts.The dictum stated for lagnalord in putra bhava also has certain exceptions but only few . Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra Chapter 24 Effects of the Bhava Lords 1. Effects of Lagn's Lord in Various Bhavas (up to sloka 12): Should Lagn's lord be in Lagn itself, the native will be endowed with physical happiness (i.e. good health) and prowess. He will be intelligent, fickle-minded, will have two wives and will unite with other females. 2. If the Lagn's lord is in Dhan, he will be gainful, scholarly, happy, endowed with good qualities, be religious, honourable, and will have many wives. 3. If Lagn's lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will equal a lion in valour, be endowed with all kinds of wealth, be honorable, will have two wives, be intelligent, and happy. 4. If Lagn's lord is in Bandhu Bhava, the native will be endowed with paternal and maternal happiness, will have many brothers, be lustful, virtuous and charming. 5. If Lagn's lord is in Putr Bhava, the native will have mediocre progenic happiness, will lose his first child, be honourable, given to anger, and be dear to king. 6. If Lagn's lord is in Ari Bhava and related to a malefic the native will be devoid of physical happiness, and will be troubled by enemies if there is no benefic drishti. 7. If Lagn's lord is a malefic and is placed in Yuvati Bhava, the natives wife will not live (long). If the grah in question is a benefic, one will wander aimlessly, face penury and be dejected. He will alternatively become a king (if the said grah is strong). 8. If Lagn's lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be an accomplished scholar, be sickly, thievish, be given to much anger, be a gambler, and will join others' wives. 9. If Lagn's lord is in Dharm Bhava, the native will be fortunate, dear to people, be a devotee of Shri Vishnu, be skilful, eloquent in speech, and be endowed with wife, sons, and wealth. 10. If Lagn's lord is in Karm Bhava, the native will be endowed with paternal happiness, royal honour (or patronage), fame among men and will doubtlessly have self-earned wealth. 11. If Lagn's lord is in Labh Bhava, the native will always be endowed with gains, good qualities, fame, and many wives. If Lagn's lord is in Vyaya Bhava and is devoid of benefic drishti and / or yuti the native will be bereft of physical happiness, will spend unfruitfully and be given to much anger. 13. Effects of Dhan's Lord in Various Bhavas (up to sloka 24): If Dhan's lord is in Tanu Bhava, the native will be endowed with sons and wealth, be inimical to his family, lustful, hard-hearted, and will do others' jobs. 14. If Dhan's lord is in Dhan Bhava, the native will be wealthy, proud, will have two or more wives and be bereft of progeny. 15. If Dhan's lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be valorous, wise, virtuous, lustful, and miserly; all these when related to a benefic. If related to a malefic, the native will be a heterodox. 16. If Dhan's lord is in Bandhu Bhava, the native will acquire all kinds of wealth. If Dhan's lord is exalted and is yuti with Guru one will be equal to a king. 17. If Dhan's lord is in Putr Bhava the native will be wealthy. Not only the native, but also his sons, will be intent on earning wealth. 18. If Dhan's lord is in Ari Bhava along with a benefic the native will gain wealth through his enemies; if Dhan's lord is yuti with a malefic, there will be loss through enemies apart from mutilation of shanks. 19. If Dhan's lord is in Yuvati Bhava, the native will be addicted to others' wives; and he will be a doctor. If a malefic is related to the said placement by yuti with Dhan's lord or by drishti, the native's wife will (also) be of questionable character. 20. If Dhan's lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be endowed with abundant land and wealth. But he will have limited marital felicity and be bereft of happiness from his elder brother. 21. If Dhan's lord is in Dharm Bhava, the native will be wealthy, diligent, skilful, sick during childhood, and will later on be happy (i.e. healthy), and will visit shrines, observing religious code, etc.. 22. If Dhan's lord is in Karm Bhava, the native will be libidinous, honourable, and learned; he will have many wives and much wealth, but he will be bereft of filial happiness. 23. If Dhan's lord is in Labh Bhava, the native will have all kinds of wealth, be ever diligent, honourable, and famous. 24. If Dhan's lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will be adventurous, be devoid of wealth, and be interested in other's wealth, while his eldest child will not keep him happy. 25. Effects of Sahaj's Lord in Various Bhavas (up to sloka 36): If Sahaj's lord is in Tanu Bhava, the native will have self-made wealth, be disposed to worship, be valorous, and be intelligent, although devoid of learning. 26. If Sahaj's lord is in Dhan Bhava, the native will be corpulent, devoid of valour, will not make much efforts, be not happy, and will have an eye on others' wives and others' wealth. 27. If Sahaj's lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be endowed with happiness through co-born and will have wealth and sons, be cheerful, and extremely happy. 28. If Sahaj's lord is in Bandhu Bhava, the native will be happy, wealthy and intelligent, but will acquire a wicked spouse. 29. If Sahaj's lord is in Putr Bhava, the native will have sons, and be virtuous. If in the process Sahaj's lord be yuti with or receives a drishti from a malefic, the native will have a formidable wife. 30. If Sahaj's lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be inimical to his co-born, be affluent, will not be well-disposed to his maternal uncle and be dear to his maternal aunt. 31. If Sahaj's lord is in Yuvati Bhava, the native will be interested in serving the king. He will not be happy during boyhood, but the end of his life he will be happy. 32. If Sahaj's lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be a thief, will derive his livelihood serving others, and will die at the gate of the royal palace. 33. If Sahaj's lord is in Dharm Bhava, the native will lack paternal bliss, will make fortunes through wife, and will enjoy progenic and other pleasures. 34. If Sahaj's lord is in Karm Bhava, the native will have all lands of happiness and self-made wealth, and be interested in nurturing wicked females. 35. If Sahaj's lord is in Labh Bhava, then native will always gain in trading, be intelligent although not literate, be adventurous, and will serve others. 36. If Sahaj's lord is in Vyaya, the native will spend on evil deeds, will have a wicked father and will be fortunate through a female (or wife). 37. Effects of Bandhu's Lord in Various Bhavas (up to sloka 48): If Bandhu's lord is in Tanu Bhava, the native will be endowed with learning, virtues, ornaments, lands, conveyances, and maternal happiness. 38. If Bandhu's lord is in Dhan Bhava, the native will enjoy pleasures, all kinds of wealth, family life and honour, and be adventurous. He will be cunning in disposition. 39. If Bandhu's lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be valorous, will have servants, be liberal, virtuous and charitable, and will possess self-earned wealth. He will be free from diseases. 40. If Bandhu's lord is in Bandhu, the native will be a minister and will possess all kinds of wealth. He will be skilful, virtuous, honourable, learned, happy and be well disposed to his spouse. 41. If Bandhu's lord is in Putr Bhava, the native will be happy and be liked by all. He will be devoted to Shri Vishnu, be virtuous, honourable, and will have self-earned wealth. 42. If Bandhu's lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be devoid of maternal happiness, be given to anger, be a thief and a conjurer (or magician), be independent in action and be indisposed. 43. If Bandhu's lord is in Yuvati Bhava, the native will be endowed with a high degree of education, will sacrifice his patrimony and be akin to the dumb in an assembly. 44. If Bandhu's lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be devoid of domestic and other comforts, will not enjoy much parental happiness and be equal to a neuter. 45. If Bandhu's lord is in Dharm Bhava, the native will be dear to one and all, be devoted to God, be virtuous, honourable, and endowed with every land of happiness. 46. If Bandhu's lord is in Karm Bhava, the native will enjoy royal honours, be an alchemist, be extremely pleased, will enjoy pleasures and will conquer his five senses. 47. If Bandhu's lord is in Labh Bhava, the native will have fear of secret disease; he will be liberal, virtuous, charitable, and helpful to others. 48. If Bandhu's lord is in Vyaya Bhava the native will be devoid of domestic and other comforts, will have vices and be foolish and indolent. 49. Effects of Putr's Lord in Various Bhavas (up to sloka 60): If Putr's lord is in Lagn, the native will be scholarly, be endowed with progenic happiness, be a miser, be crooked, and will steal others' wealth. 50. If Putr's lord is in Dhan Bhava, the native will have many sons and wealth, be a pater familiaris, be honourable, be attached to his spouse, and be famous in the world. 51. If Putr's lord is in Sahaj, the native will be attached to his co-born, be a tale bearer and a miser, and be always interested in his own work. 52. If Putr's lord is in Bandhu Bhava, the native will be happy, endowed with maternal happiness, wealth and intelligence, and be a king or a minister or a preceptor. 53. If Putr's lord is in Putr Bhava, the native will have progeny if related to a benefic; there will be no issues if malefic is related to Putr's lord placed in Putr Bhava. Putr's lord in Putr Bhava will, however, make one virtuous and dear to friends. 54. If Putr's lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will obtain such sons who will be equal to his enemies, or will lose them, or will acquire an adopted or purchased son. 55. If Putr's lord is in Yuvati Bhava, the native will be honourable, very religious, endowed with progenic happiness, and be helpful to others. 56. If Putr's lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will not have much progenic happiness, be troubled by cough and pulmonary disorders, be given to anger and be devoid of happiness. 57. If Putr's lord is in Dharm Bhava, the native will be a prince or equal to him, will author treatises, be famous, and will shine in his race. 58. If Putr's lord is in Karm Bhava, the native will enjoy a Raj Yog and various pleasures, and be very famous. 59. If Putr's lord is in Labh Bhava, the native will be learned, dear to people, be an author of treatises, be very skilful, and be endowed with many sons and wealth. 60. If Putr's lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will be bereft of happiness from his own sons, will have an adopted or purchased son. 61. Effects of Ari's Lord in Various Bhavas (up to sloka 72): If Ari's lord is in Tanu Bhava, the native will be sickly, famous, inimical to his own men, rich, honourable, adventurous, and virtuous. 62. If Ari's lord is in Dhan Bhava, the native will be adventurous, famous among his people, will live in alien countries (or places), be happy, be a skilful speaker ,and be always interested in his own work. 63. If Ari's lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be given to anger, be bereft of courage, inimical to all of his co-born, and will have disobedient servants. 64. If Ari's lord is in Bandhu Bhava, the native will be devoid maternal happiness, be intelligent, be a tale bearer, be jealous, evil-minded, and very rich. 65. If Ari's lord is in Putr Bhava, the native will have fluctuating finances. He will incur enmity with his sons and friends. He will be happy, selfish, and kind. 66. If Ari's lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will have enmity with the group of his kinsmen, but be friendly to others and will enjoy mediocre happiness in matters like wealth. 67. If Ari's lord is in Yuvati Bhava, the native will be deprived of happiness through wedlock. He will be famous, virtuous, honourable, adventurous, and wealthy. 68. If Ari's lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be sickly, inimical, will desire others' wealth, be interested in others' wives, and be impure (or degraded). 69. If Ari's lord is in Dharm Bhava, the native will trade in wood and stones ('Pashan' also means poison), and will have fluctuating professional fortunes. 70. If Ari's lord is in Karm Bhava, the native will be well known among his men, will not be respectfully disposed to his father and will be happy in foreign countries. He will be a gifted speaker. 71. If Ari's lord is in Labh Bhava, the native will gain wealth through his enemies, be virtuous, adventurous, and will be somewhat bereft of progenic happiness. 72. If Ari's lord is in Vyaya Bhava the native will always spend on vices, be hostile to learned people and will torture living beings. 73. Effects of Yuvati's Lord in Various Bhavas (up to sloka 84): If Yuvati's lord is in Tanu Bhava, the native will go to others' wives, be wicked, skilful, devoid of courage, and afflicted by windy diseases. 74. If Yuvati's lord is in Dhan Bhava, the native will ha many wives, will gain wealth through his wife and be procrastinating in nature. 75. If Yuvati's lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will face loss of children and sometimes, with great difficulty, there will exist a living son. There is also the possibility of birth of a daughter (who will sustain). 76. If Yuvati's lord is in Bandhu Bhava, the wife of the native will not be under his control. He will be fond of truth, intelligent, and religious. He will suffer from dental diseases. 77. If Yuvati's lord is in Putr Bhava, the native will be honourable, endowed with all (i.e. seven principal) virtues, always delighted, and endowed with all kinds of wealth. 78. If Yuvati's lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will beget a sickly wife and he will be inimical to her. He will be given to anger and will be devoid of happiness. 79. If Yuvati's lord is in Yuvati Bhava, the native will be endowed with happiness through wife, be courageous, skilful, and intelligent, but only afflicted by windy diseases. 80. If Yuvati's lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be deprived of marital happiness. His wife will be troubled by diseases, be devoid of good disposition and will not obey the native. 81. If Yuvati's lord is in Dharm Bhava, the native will have union with many women, be well-disposed to his own wife and will have many undertakings (or assignments). 82. If Yuvati's lord is in Karm Bhava, the native will beget a disobedient wife, will be religious and endowed with wealth, sons, etc.. 83. If Yuvati's lord is in Labh Bhava, the native will gain wealth through his wife, be endowed with less happiness from sons, etc., and will have daughters. 84. If Yuvati's lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will incur penury, be a miser, and his livelihood will be related to clothes. His wife will be a spend thrift. 85. Effects of Randhr's Lord in Various Bhavas (up to sloka 96): If Randhr's lord is in Tanu Bhava. the native will be devoid of physical felicity and will suffer from wounds. He will be hostile to gods and brahmins (or religious people). 86. If Randhr's lord is in Dhan Bhava, the native will be devoid of bodily vigour, will enjoy a little wealth, and will not regain lost wealth. 87. If Randhr's lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal happiness, be indolent, and devoid of servants and strength. 88. If Randhr's lord is in Bandhu Bhava, the child will be deprived of its mother. He will be devoid of a house, lands, and happiness and will doubtlessly betray his friends. 89. If Randhr's lord is in Putr Bhava, the native will be dull witted, will have limited number of children, be long-lived, and wealthy. 90. If Randhr's lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will win over his enemies, be afflicted by diseases and during childhood will incur danger through snakes and water. 91. If Randhr's lord is in Yuvati Bhava, the native will have two wives. If Randhr's lord is yuti with a malefic in Yuvati Bhava there will surely be downfall in his business (or livelihood). 92. If Randhr's lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be long-lived. If the said grah is weak being in Randhr Bhava, the longevity will be medium, while the native will be a thief, be blame worthy and will blame others as well. 93. If Randhr's lord is in Dharm Bhava, the native will betray his religion, be a heterodox, will beget a wicked wife, and will steal others' wealth. 94. If Randhr's lord is in Karm Bhava the native will be devoid of paternal bliss, be a tale-bearer and be bereft of livelihood. If there is a drishti in the process from a benefic, then these evils will not mature. 95. If Randhr's lord along with a malefic is in Labh Bhava, the native will be devoid of wealth and will be miserable in boyhood but happy later on. Should Randhr's lord be yuti with with a benefic and be in Labh Bhava, the native will be long-lived. 96. If Randhr's lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend on evil deeds and will incur a short life. More so, if there be additionally a malefic in the said bhava. 97. Effects of Dharm's Lord in Various Bhavas (up to sloka 103): If Dharm's lord is in Lagn, the native will be fortunate (or prosperous), will be honoured by the king, be virtuous, charming, learned, and honoured by the public. 98. If Dharm's lord is in Dhan Bhava,the native will be a scholar, be dear to all, wealthy, sensuous, and endowed with happiness from wife, sons, etc.. 99. If Dharm's lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be endowed with fraternal bliss, be wealthy, virtuous, and charming. 100. If Dharm's lord is in Bandhu Bhava, the native will enjoy houses, conveyances, and happiness, will have all kinds of wealth and be devoted to his mother. 101. If Dharm's lord is in Putr Bhava the native will be endowed with sons and prosperity, devoted to elders, bold, charitable, and learned. 102. If Dharm's lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will enjoy meagre prosperity, be devoid of happiness from maternal relatives, and be always troubled by enemies. 103. 0 Brahmin, If Dharm's lord is in Yuvati Bhava, the native beget happiness after marriage, be virtuous, and famous. 104. If Dharm's lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will not be prosperous and will not enjoy happiness from his elder brother. 105. If Dharm's lord is in Dharm Bhava, the native will be endowed with abundant fortunes, virtues, and beauty, and will enjoy much happiness from co-born. 106. If Dharm's lord is in Karm Bhava, the native will be a king or equal to him or be a minister or an army chief, be virtuous and dear to all. 107. If Dharm's lord is in Labh Bhava, the native will enjoy financial gains day by day, be devoted to elders, virtuous, and meritorious in acts. 108. If Dharm's lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will incur loss of fortunes, will always spend on auspicious acts, and will become poor on account of entertaining guests. 109. Effects of Karm's Lord in Various Bhavas (up to sloka 120): If Karm's lord is in Tanu Bhava, the native will be scholarly, famous, be a poet, will incur diseases in boyhood, and be happy later on. His wealth will increase day by day. 110 If Karm's lord is in Dhan Bhava, the native will be wealthy, virtuous, honoured by the king, charitable, and will enjoy happiness from father and others. 111. If Karm's lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will enjoy happiness from brothers and servants, be valorous, virtuous, eloquent, and truthful. 112. If Karm's lord is in Bandhu Bhava, the native will be happy, be always interested in his mother's welfare, will lord over conveyances, lands and houses, be virtuous, and wealthy. 113. If Karm's lord is in Putr Bhava, the native will be endowed with all kinds of learning; he will be always delighted, and he will be wealthy and endowed with sons. 114. If Karm's lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be bereft of paternal bliss. Although he may be skilful he will be bereft of wealth and be troubled by enemies. 115. If Karm's lord is in Yuvati Bhava, the native will be endowed with happiness through wife, be intelligent, virtuous, eloquent, truthful, and religious. 116. If Karm's lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be devoid of (good) acts, long-lived and intent on blaming others. 117. If Karm's lord is in Dharm Bhava, one born of royal scion will become a king whereas an ordinary native will be equal to a king. This placement will confer wealth and progenic happiness, etc.. 118. If Karm's lord is in Karm Bhava, the native will be skilful in all jobs, be valorous, truthful, and devoted to elders. 119. If Karm's lord is in Labh Bhava, the native will be endowed with wealth, happiness, and sons. He will be virtuous, truthful, and always delighted. 120. If Karm's lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will spend through royal abodes (i.e. kings), will have fear from enemies, and will be worried in spite of being skilful. 121. Effects of Labh's Lord in Various Bhavas (up to sloka 132): If Labh's lord is in Tanu Bhava, the native will be genuine in disposition, be rich, happy, even-sighted, be a poet, be eloquent in speech, and be always endowed with gains. 122. If Labh's lord is in Dhan Bhava, the native will be endowed with all kinds of wealth and all kinds of accomplishments, charitable, religious, and always happy. 123. If Labh's lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be skilful in all jobs, wealthy, endowed with fraternal bliss, and may sometimes incur gout pains. 124. If Labh's lord is in Bandhu Bhava, the native will gain from maternal relatives, will undertake visits to shrines and will possess happiness of house and lands. 125. If Labh's lord is in Putr Bhava, the native will be happy, educated and virtuous. He will be religious and happy. 126. If Labh's lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will be afflicted by diseases, be cruel, living in foreign places and troubled by enemies. 127. If Labh's lord is in Yuvati Bhava, the native will always gain through his wife's relatives, be liberal, virtuous, sensuous, and will remain at the command of his spouse. 128. If Labh's lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will incur reversals in his undertakings and will live long while his wife will predecease him. 129. If Labh's lord is in Dharm Bhava, the native will be fortunate, skilful, truthful, honoured by the king, and be affluent. 130. If Labh's lord is in Karm Bhava, the native will be honoured by the king, be virtuous, attached to his religion, intelligent, truthful, and will subdue his senses. 131. If Labh's lord is in Labh Bhava, the native will gain in all his undertakings while his learning and happiness will be on the increase day by day. 132. If Labh's lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will always depend on good deeds, be sensuous, will have many wives and will befriend barbarians (or foreigners in general). 133. Effects of Vyaya's Lord in Various Bhavas (up to sloka 144): If Vyaya's lord is in Tanu Bhava, the native will be a spend thrift, be weak in constitution, will suffer from phlegmatic disorders, and be devoid of wealth and learning. 134. If Vyaya's lord is in Dhan Bhava, the native will always spend on inauspicious deeds, be religious, will speak sweetly, and will be endowed with virtues and happiness. 135. If Vyaya's lord is in Sahaj Bhava, the native will be devoid of fraternal bliss, will hate others and will promote self-nourishment (i.e. be quite selfish). 136. If Vyaya's lord is in Bandhu Bhava, the native will be devoid of maternal happiness and will day by day accrue losses with respect to lands, conveyances, and houses. 137. If Vyaya's lord is in Putr Bhava, the native will be bereft of sons and learning. He will spend as well as visit shrines in order to beget a son. 138. If Vyaya's lord is in Ari Bhava, the native will incur enmity with his own men, be given to anger, be sinful, miserable, and will go to others' wives. 139. If Vyaya's lord is in Yuvati Bhava, the native will incur expenditure on account of his wife, will not enjoy conjugal bliss, and will be bereft of learning and strength. 140. If Vyaya's lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will always gain, will speak affably, will enjoy a medium span of life and be endowed with all good qualities. 141. If Vyaya's lord is in Dharm Bhava, the native will dishonour his elders, be inimical even to his friends and be always intent on achieving his own ends. 142. If Vyaya's lord is in Karm Bhava, the native will incur expenditure through royal persons and will enjoy only moderate paternal bliss. 143. If Vyaya lord is in Labh Bhava, the native will incur losses, be brought up by others, and will sometimes gain through others. 144. If Vyaya's lord is in Vyaya Bhava, the native will only face heavy expenditure, will-not have physical felicity, be irritable and spiteful. 145-148. Miscellaneous: O Brahmin, those are the effects of bhava lords which are to be deduced considering their strengths and weaknesses. In the case of a grah owning two bhavas, the results are to be deducted based on its two lordships (for the same placement). If contrary results are thus indicated, the results will be nullified, while results of varied nature will come to pass. The grah will yield full, half, or a quarter of the effects according to its strength being full, medium, and negligible respectively. Thus, I have told you about the effects due to bhava lords in various bhavas. "pnrazdan" <pnrazdan > vedic astrologyTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effectsThu, 15 Dec 2005 17:16:22 -0000Dear member (dakshinastrologer),According to BPHS,lagna lord in trines and kendras brings physicalcomforts. Particularly LL in 5th or vice versa is a Yog which givesall comforts from the progeny apart from the Rajyog through linkage ofkendra/kona houses.Lagu Parashari in particular praises the LL and says that even if itis in a dusthana, it will still not bring trouble.Please enlighten me which are these classics you are referring towhich tell about the contrary results of Lagna lord.Pran Razdanvedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer"<dakshinastrologer> wrote:>> Dear Ms.Jyothi Lakshmi,> > According to the classics, Lagna lord in 5th WILL adversely affect > relationship with progeny. The first child of such a native will not > survive in most cases which dictum has also been proved corrected > practically in countless cases in my astrological experience. The > native will also find it difficult to experience a sense of freedom > being dependent upon/ constrained by others and circumstances even if > there are no evil planets afflicting this 5th house if lagna lord is > in the 5th.> > IF the 5th house is well-fortified by benefics, the native will > propitiate a Deity as signified by the 5th lord and has the potential > to attain God-realization. Intuitive dreams usually foretell > impending events to these natives.> > Now about the placement of lagna lord in 12th house.....> > If lagna lord is in the 12th, occult tendencies increase. The native > will suffer many losses in business enterprises. Lot of visits to > kshetras will be experienced. The native will spend on charitable > causes and will even exhaust all inherited property on meritorious > deeds and dedicate the self for a common cause. The end will be > peaceful and sudden.> > Blessed be.> > - In vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> >> > Dear sir,> > > > > > > > Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do > > you feel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children> > (assuming no other affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to > > know, in such a case, where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any > > bhava where LL is placed), will that bhava prosper or suffer by the > > Lagna lord placement. Can you make that clear, if you dont mind > > please? > > > > In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord > is > > in a dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placed > > there(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I > have > > understood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in > > some sjc site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th > > bhava(depriving the life force). This is what confusing me. I would > > like to know which is correct.> > > > Regards,> > jyothi> > > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner > > <vedicastro_mind> wrote:> > >> > > Namaste Madam,> > > > > > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus should > > contiribute to incresae our knolwedge.> > > > > > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have asked > > the other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will > > give "mix" reading. Good as well as bad,> > > as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as > per > > our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in > case > > of my friend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle > abroad > > but 12th house also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be > > taken care off.> > > > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > > positioned and that the native will experience good results of that > > bhava. But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's.> > > Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my > > knowledge.> > > I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dat > > house becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of > > exaltation shouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by > > malefic and argala is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to > > the seed.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Troubled Soul.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > > Respected Sirs,> > > > > > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a > bhava > > is > > > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement in > > any > > > bh�va will deprive that bh�va of the life-force and give it to the > > > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune > for > > > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct?> > > > > > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the > opposite. > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > > positioned > > > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > > > Scholars please clarify.> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > Jyothi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Namaste Friends, There are many parameters influencing each bhaava placements, Maharishi Parashara has given in brief a clue to each of the parameter's influence. For example, 5. If Lagn's lord is in Putr Bhava, the native will have mediocre progenic happiness, will lose his first child, be honourable, given to anger, and be dear to king. 1. The distance of the lord from the house : Five, mediocre progenic happiness: So the Lagna gathers 5th house kaalapursha nature, i.e Sun. Sun is a loner and whichever house the Sun goes there is seperation as Sun's nature like Atma is to be alone. 2. Arudha, Count as many house the graha has travelled by reflective count from the graha. Hence Arudha goes to 9th house. The person will try to keep a clean image and hence honourable. 3. The Kaalapursha lord of the Bhaava, Influence on graha. Here 5th house in Kalapurusha is ruled by Sun. Hence given to anger. Note here the actual tendency of the graha is to mimic the Kaalapurusha lord. So try to consider if the Mimic tendency is fulfilled, For example see if Sun aspects the Graha then the mimic tendency will be fulfilled and hence there could be anger seen in the person. 4. Bhaava Kaaraka's influence: The 5th kaaraka is Jupiter. The bhaava kaaraka is the influence from within whereas the kaalapurusha lordship is from outside. Like Jupiter inside your gives urge to get children, Whereas the Sun, 5th lord in Kaalapurusha, (Paramaatma) determines whether another soul will be born for you. Hence the bhaava kaaraka influence indicates the desire of the person due to which the graha got to a particular bhava. For example The LL in 5th the Jupiter is bhaava (emotion) which made the graha go there. So the person may be tending to advice all and try to be a minister. If there is any Rajasambanda yoga then the person becomes "dear to king" i.e becomes a good minister or adivisor. 8. If Lagn's lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be an accomplished scholar, be sickly, thievish, be given to much anger, be a gambler, and will join others' wives. accomplished scholar: The natural 8th house is Scorpio a brahmin sign ruled by Mars and Ketu depending on influence the person could be learned. be sickly: .The LL gathers Saturnian nature so the person could have bad tendency to maintain health and hence eat bad food, LL aspects 2nd house. thievish: Due to natural 8th being owned by mars and ketu, depending on their influence the person can get bold and theivish. Arudha falls in 3rd house, hence the person is seen bold, given to much anger, be a gambler. i.e enterprising risk taker. 8th is natural maraka to 7th house, the Lagna lord having taken the character of Mars+Ketu and thinking like Saturn, The person can have tendecy to break marriages. So pay special attention to Mars, Ketu and Saturns influence on LL to see if the tendency fructifies. Similarly more can thought taking into consideration graha arudha, yoga etc. But the basics of Graha, bhava kaaraka and natural (kaala purusha) lordships remain same. Warm Regards Sanjay P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Asha, Saturn is karaka for longevity (8H) and hence will not harm the karatwa. Such a placement therefore gives long life. Impact of planet thus depends on its karkatwas and also lordship. Best Wishes, Ramesh vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Asha KamathFriday, December 16, 2005 2:39 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Rameshji, I was always told that due to the Saturn in my 8th house I will have a long life. But what u are saying is that the life will be short! not that it matters br asha"Ramesh F. Gangaramani" <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com> wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Jyoti,Generally house of placement becomes the resource and houses owned are theagenda of the planet. Placement of LL in 5H (trine) is good for Lagna butnot so good for 5H matters like children. Placement in 8H is not so good forlongevity, in 9H may not be so good for father. I think Visti has coveredthis subject well in his latest book.Best Wishes,Ramesh vedic astrology[vedic astrology] On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmiThursday, December 15, 2005 2:39 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effectsDear sir, Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do youfeel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children (assuming noother affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to know, in such a case,where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any bhava where LL is placed),will that bhava prosper or suffer by the Lagna lord placement. Can you makethat clear, if you dont mind please? In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord is in adusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placedthere(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I haveunderstood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in some sjcsite), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th bhava(deprivingthe life force). This is what confusing me. I would like to know which iscorrect.Regards,jyothivedic astrology, Jyotish Learner<vedicastro_mind> wrote:>> Namaste Madam,> > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus shouldcontiribute to incresae our knolwedge.> > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have askedthe other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will give "mix"reading. Good as well as bad,> as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as perour classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in case of myfriend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle abroad but 12thhouse also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be taken care off.> > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned and that the native will experience good results of that bhava.But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's.> Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per myknowledge.> I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dathouse becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of exaltationshouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by malefic and argalais imp after all argals only yield the fruit to the seed.> > Regards,> Troubled Soul.> > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> Respected Sirs,> > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhavais > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement inany > bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct?> > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite. > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > Scholars please clarify.> > > Regards,> Jyothi> > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms ofService. > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friendshttp://au.messenger.>------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Joinmodern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healinghttp://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM--~-> Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Asha Kamath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh ji,Pranaam A request, can you please use non-italic font, otherwise it become difficult to read. It is my observation. You may differ. Thanks & Regards Ajay Zharotiaajayzharotia - Ramesh F. Gangaramani vedic astrology Saturday, December 17, 2005 6:39 AM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Asha, Saturn is karaka for longevity (8H) and hence will not harm the karatwa. Such a placement therefore gives long life. Impact of planet thus depends on its karkatwas and also lordship. Best Wishes, Ramesh vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Asha KamathFriday, December 16, 2005 2:39 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects Rameshji, I was always told that due to the Saturn in my 8th house I will have a long life. But what u are saying is that the life will be short! not that it matters br asha"Ramesh F. Gangaramani" <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) york (DOT) com> wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Jyoti,Generally house of placement becomes the resource and houses owned are theagenda of the planet. Placement of LL in 5H (trine) is good for Lagna butnot so good for 5H matters like children. Placement in 8H is not so good forlongevity, in 9H may not be so good for father. I think Visti has coveredthis subject well in his latest book.Best Wishes,Ramesh vedic astrology[vedic astrology] On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmiThursday, December 15, 2005 2:39 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effectsDear sir, Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do youfeel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children (assuming noother affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to know, in such a case,where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any bhava where LL is placed),will that bhava prosper or suffer by the Lagna lord placement. Can you makethat clear, if you dont mind please? In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord is in adusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placedthere(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I haveunderstood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in some sjcsite), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th bhava(deprivingthe life force). This is what confusing me. I would like to know which iscorrect.Regards,jyothivedic astrology, Jyotish Learner<vedicastro_mind> wrote:>> Namaste Madam,> > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus shouldcontiribute to incresae our knolwedge.> > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have askedthe other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will give "mix"reading. Good as well as bad,> as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as perour classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in case of myfriend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle abroad but 12thhouse also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be taken care off.> > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned and that the native will experience good results of that bhava.But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's.> Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per myknowledge.> I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dathouse becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of exaltationshouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by malefic and argalais imp after all argals only yield the fruit to the seed.> > Regards,> Troubled Soul.> > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> Respected Sirs,> > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhavais > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement inany > bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct?> > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite. > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it ispositioned > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > Scholars please clarify.> > > Regards,> Jyothi> > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Dear All, It is an interesting thread and the comments here-in have raised an issue of grave concern to me. I am a Capricorn Acsendent and my LL Saturn is in the 5th. house. From what I read that the LL in the 5th. house affects children. I have a lovely daughter (4 years) and though married I am as good as a single working parent. Her well-being is always a concern. Will such a placement have any adverse impact. ( P.S: My LL also forms a benefic exchange with my Venus which is in the 2nd house and am currently 2 years into my Venus Mahadasha..does this help in any way!) Eagerly awaiting guidance and clarification from the learned people on this site. Thanks. Punam. vedic astrology, "Ajay Zharotia" <ajay@c...> wrote: > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Ramesh ji,Pranaam > > A request, can you please use non-italic font, otherwise it become difficult to read. It is my observation. You may differ. > > Thanks & Regards > > Ajay Zharotia > ajayzharotia > - > Ramesh F. Gangaramani > vedic astrology > Saturday, December 17, 2005 6:39 AM > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Asha, > Saturn is karaka for longevity (8H) and hence will not harm the karatwa. Such a placement therefore gives long life. Impact of planet thus depends on its karkatwas and also lordship. > Best Wishes, > Ramesh > > > > > -- ---------- > vedic astrology [vedic- astrology] On Behalf Of Asha Kamath > Friday, December 16, 2005 2:39 AM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects > > > Rameshji, I was always told that due to the Saturn in my 8th house I will have a long life. But what u are saying is that the life will be short! not that it matters > br > asha > > "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Jyoti, > Generally house of placement becomes the resource and houses owned are the > agenda of the planet. Placement of LL in 5H (trine) is good for Lagna but > not so good for 5H matters like children. Placement in 8H is not so good for > longevity, in 9H may not be so good for father. I think Visti has covered > this subject well in his latest book. > Best Wishes, > Ramesh > > > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmi > Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:39 AM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Lagna lord effects > > Dear sir, > > > > Thanks for the information. But according to the first dictum, do you > feel, Lagna lord in 5th will cause misfortune to the children (assuming no > other affliction is there)? I specifically wanted to know, in such a case, > where there is no affliction to the 5th(or any bhava where LL is placed), > will that bhava prosper or suffer by the Lagna lord placement. Can you make > that clear, if you dont mind please? > > In your example LL in 12th, Lagna will suffer because its lord is in a > dusthana, but, the 12th house will prosper because LL is placed > there(assuming no other afflictions). Am I right? This is what I have > understood so far. But according to what I read recently (it was in some sjc > site), LL in 12th will destroy the positive effects of 12th bhava(depriving > the life force). This is what confusing me. I would like to know which is > correct. > > Regards, > jyothi > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Learner > <vedicastro_mind> wrote: > > > > Namaste Madam, > > > > Gr8 thread u have started i feel many gr8 astro gurus should > contiribute to incresae our knolwedge. > > > > That is good thing u r studying "bhava" well u should have asked > the other way round bhava in general cant be studied as it will give "mix" > reading. Good as well as bad, > > as for example if u see Lagna lord in trine is always good as per > our classics but I say Lagna lord in dusthana is also not bad in case of my > friend LL is in 12th dats the case he is going to settle abroad but 12th > house also indicate some negative aspects dat he should be taken care off. > > > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > positioned and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > But in dat particular dasha's and bhukti's. > > Scholars please clarify ,I am not scholar but this is as per my > knowledge. > > I feel this is true it strengthen that bhava for sure short dat > house becomes strong IF alone and in friends house or house of exaltation > shouldnot debilated and exalted and if not aspected by malefic and argala > is imp after all argals only yield the fruit to the seed. > > > > Regards, > > Troubled Soul. > > > > > > > > > > jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote: > > Respected Sirs, > > > > I would like to know if the effect of Lagna lord in a bhava > is > > good or bad. I happened to read that the lagna lord's placement in > any > > bhäva will deprive that bhäva of the life-force and give it to the > > lagna. For eg, if lagna lord is in 5th, it indicates misfortune for > > children (and ninth will prosper). Is this correct? > > > > As per some malayalam books on astrology, I have read the opposite. > > That the Lagna lord strengthen's the bhava wherever it is > positioned > > and that the native will experience good results of that bhava. > > Scholars please clarify. > > > > > > Regards, > > Jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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