Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I am a Western Uranian astrologer learning Vedic astrology, which is why I am on this list. Your post intrigues me, and using Uranian methods I think I can give you some ideas as they are both very interesting charts. In my astrological system, I use the usual planets, nodes, and several sensitive points that act as planets that have odd names so you won’t recognize them. Also, although I use houses and signs, I generally ignore them in favor to aspects between midpoints and planets, Uranian yogas, you might say.. First of all, this man has the nodes at his Aries Point. That means he is connected to lots and lots of people. He is also a very psychic person, highly attuned to others (a complex of Moon, Apollon, Neptune, and Poseidon). He is also a very strong man physically and he has amazingly good luck. He has great leadership skills and is very inventive. He maintains friendships with very low-class people. He is tenacious as hell. Also, the man is a natural litigator. What his chart shows in terms of lawsuits is that he makes very good connections with the courts. He does it suddenly and quickly. It is also clear that he makes secret agreements with people, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he hasn’t done that with the courts. Your client, however, has miserable aspects for the courts, including the fact that she can be victimized by corruption. He, on the other hand, has aspects where he actually makes money from lawsuits, justly or not. Unfortunately, your client has so many bad aspects, including those that impoverish a person completely, that I am surprised that she survived as long as she did. In fact, even physically, she is in grave danger right now. Moreover, she is so deeply depressed and worried that that alone can do her in. Also, in her chart she has a natal Pluto/Admetos midpoint, completely and fundamental change, now being aspected by Pluto. The change continues. One active aspect at work right now is that Jupiter is directed over his Saturn/Hades midpoint, which is effect is the destruction of material life through enemies. She has a natal Uranus/Hades midpoint that makes her a victim of mean and vile acts. That point recently was felt the force of Admetos by direction, which means to be damaged beyond restitution. This point will continue to be battered as Neptune will direct itself over the natal midpoint. It makes her completely helpless against any vile acts done to her. I could a few dozen more, but it is getting just too depressing to write about it. Sadly, she probably will also become homeless. Meanwhile, her enemy is not only prospering, but he is about to hit another windfall. He might as well play the lottery. However, interestingly enough, he also is going to face monetary and property losses relatively soon. It will come as a complete surprise to him. Moreover, he is not really in such good health himself. He is in danger of death, if he is not careful. I won’t say he is fated to die, but he is in danger. He is not a young man, and when the death midpoints are active he must be careful. It also appears that he is continuing to plot and plot for more. He is a terrible kind of person who escapes, Jupiter on Hades/Kronos, but at the same time right now he is facing a directed Neptune to that same point, meaning he will be involved in some kind of fraud, and it could be perpetrated on him as well. I am sorry for your client. She has so many bad aspects natally that they were bound to come due sometime. She may have had approximately the same kind of dreariness 22-years-ago and lead her into the initial lawsuit in the first place. I would suggest to see how she was faring at that time, around 22 to 22 and half years ago. The difference today is that she has very bad transits over some of her most critical points with respect to material, mental, and emotional life. And these transits of the slow moving planets just sit there and seem never to move away. By the way, the threat of jail, Saturn/Vulkanos, is real. She may not be actually jailed, but she does supervision by the state, because directed Kronos is now hitting that aspect. The various planetary pictures for being jailed, Saturn+Vulkanos-Ascendant or –Uranus, are now both active. However, the one with Uranus is, as the directed Moon, one of the personal points, is on it. She must be exceptionally vigilant at this time. The third jailing planetary picture is the most troubling, however. It is Saturn+Vulkanos-Neptune and the directed picture is now hitting Saturn, which is like having a dasha activation. So, she must be exceptionally careful. However, in all likelihood, these aspects do not necessarily mean a prison jailing, but they do mean that your client is going to be completely dependent on others for an indefinite period of time. In effect, she is being imprisoned, because she cannot have any genuine independence. God, I haven’t seen so many bad aspects in play in a long time for anyone. Also, because she has Virgo ascendant (tropical zodiac), her tertiary progressions will indicate that in an average life span, she will have 20 significant life reversals. The last one occurred at the last tertiary station of Mercury of May 2004. I have the same ascendant, and I face these things every few years so I know what that is about personally. I think that you can simply translate some these ideas into Vedic system. If you used Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto, you probably would see their influence in her Vedic chart. They have a tendency to confirm rather than distort ordinary Vedic analysis. You may want to look at that. For the man Pluto is in the last degrees of Gemini (Krishnamurthi anyanamsha), 26:56 retrograding in the eighth (a bad place for it even in traditional Western astrology); Neptune, 16:28 of Leo, in the tenth (Neptune rules fraud and failure); while Uranus is in his fifth, quick reversals in all fifth house activities. For her, Pluto would be sitting the 12th, a bad for it even in Western astrology (I have one as it is also a threat of imprisonment or confinement); her Neptune is in the second, fraud or great confusion with respect to finances; and her Uranus is in the 11th, disrupting all 11th house matters, including her hopes. Just a few ideas to work with. Best regards, Kalev Pehme 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">Dear Gurus of this group, 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">being an astrologer myself, I do need your assistance and advise: 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">A lady client of mine, born 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">January 18th, 1945 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">20.53 h 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">at 09°47´26 e and 53°33´05 n 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">who has had a very successful career, is having a court case since 18 years for claiming quite a big amount of money/provision from a former business partner, whom she submitted business worth 20 Million Germany Marks within one year. Whenever the planets were excellent and hope for getting her money came up, the judges made a false statement or her lawyers threw the court case for no reasons at all. During the last 13 years the judges asked for proof, that she had brought her business partner this and that business/order, and when she brought the proof, the judges told her, that the proof is not accepted. 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">During the past 13 years the lady had three strokes, lost all her money by paying various lawyers and is completely broke. Some weeks ago she lost the court case, because the judges did not accept her proofs, although by German and European law they had to accept the proofs. 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">Now her planets are very good again, but reality is, that her former business partner now wants her to pay for his lawyers, and as she cannot do so, he is trying to arrest her / put her in prison. 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">Since ten years she is seeking help of German officials, but either they do not answer or the German officials write to her "that there is no interest in taking any action". 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">She has consulted various astrologers and she even went to Puttaparthy to seek Sai Baba`s help, who had helped her through many dark days. He accepted her letter and whenever she is asking him inside, her tells her she would be fine ... 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">The business man`s data is: 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">February 10th, 1933 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">04.20 h a.m. 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">06°47 e and 51°12 n. 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">Do you have an advise what is happing here ? 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">Why is this business man pampered by all officials, although he is not a public person. 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">What is going on behind the curtains, that all judges make false statements, although 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">this business man never showed up personally in court, but had sent his lawyers only ? 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">Your advise will be highly appreciated. 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">Ma Bodhi Tabdar border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt" id="alt"> font-family:Verdana"> 12.0pt"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 All the major programs of Western astrology provide all the forms of progressions. I use Janus 3 and Winstar for almost all my astrological work. As I favor Uranian astrology, I use Janus the most, because it has the best software for harmonic dials and midpoints. Tertiary progressions, by the way, is very good to use with Vedic astrology. All major events in tertiary progressions coincide quite nicely with dashas and sub-periods. It is also a very good way to help in rectification. One of the best Vedic astrologers in this country, Richard Houck, the author of the Astrology of Death, now himself dead, was a great proponent of tertiary progressions. You should try them out. Best regards, Kalev Pehme 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">Dear Kalev, 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">I am totally astounded how 100 % accurate you described the situation and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your lengthy expertise. 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">Although I know exactly what is going on with this business man, I wanted to know from the group whether anybody could see it also or whether it is my much "too realistic, i.e. negative thinking", as friends have claimed. 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">The question is now: How will this lady be getting out of the trouble ? She has a Sun-Trine-Jupiter and I advised her to go to a foreign country, which is not so easy as she has to make her living there. 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">Another point is that Uranus is transiting her Venus in 2006. Do you think that could give a change in her financial situation ? 13.5pt;color:#FF66CC">Dear Kalev, you are working with Tertiary Progressions, which I am very much interested in since I heard a lecture of Noel Tyl about it. Do you have a computer program for it ? And if so, what is the name ? 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">With kindest regards 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">Martha 13.5pt;color:#6666FF">Ma Bodhi Tabdar vedic astrology schrieb am 14.12.05 14:26:04: border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt" id="alt"> I am a Western Uranian astrologer learning Vedic astrology, which is why I am on this list. Your post intrigues me, and using Uranian methods I think I can give you some ideas as they are both very interesting charts. In my astrological system, I use the usual planets, nodes, and several sensitive points that act as planets that have odd names so you won’t recognize them. Also, although I use houses and signs, I generally ignore them in favor to aspects between midpoints and planets, Uranian yogas, you might say.. First of all, this man has the nodes at his Aries Point. That means he is connected to lots and lots of people. He is also a very psychic person, highly attuned to others (a complex of Moon, Apollon, Neptune, and Poseidon). He is also a very strong man physically and he has amazingly good luck. He has great leadership skills and is very inventive. He maintains friendships with very low-class people. He is tenacious as hell. Also, the man is a natural litigator. What his chart shows in terms of lawsuits is that he makes very good connections with the courts. He does it suddenly and quickly. It is also clear that he makes secret agreements with people, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he hasn’t done that with the courts. Your client, however, has miserable aspects for the courts, including the fact that she can be victimized by corruption. He, on the other hand, has aspects where he actually makes money from lawsuits, justly or not. Unfortunately, your client has so many bad aspects, including those that impoverish a person completely, that I am surprised that she survived as long as she did. In fact, even physically, she is in grave danger right now. Moreover, she is so deeply depressed and worried that that alone can do her in. Also, in her chart she has a natal Pluto/Admetos midpoint, completely and fundamental change, now being aspected by Pluto. The change continues. One active aspect at work right now is that Jupiter is directed over his Saturn/Hades midpoint, which is effect is the destruction of material life through enemies. She has a natal Uranus/Hades midpoint that makes her a victim of mean and vile acts. That point recently was felt the force of Admetos by direction, which means to be damaged beyond restitution. This point will continue to be battered as Neptune will direct itself over the natal midpoint. It makes her completely helpless against any vile acts done to her. I could a few dozen more, but it is getting just too depressing to write about it. Sadly, she probably will also become homeless. Meanwhile, her enemy is not only prospering, but he is about to hit another windfall. He might as well play the lottery. However, interestingly enough, he also is going to face monetary and property losses relatively soon. It will come as a complete surprise to him. Moreover, he is not really in such good health himself. He is in danger of death, if he is not careful. I won’t say he is fated to die, but he is in danger. He is not a young man, and when the death midpoints are active he must be careful. It also appears that he is continuing to plot and plot for more. He is a terrible kind of person who escapes, Jupiter on Hades/Kronos, but at the same time right now he is facing a directed Neptune to that same point, meaning he will be involved in some kind of fraud, and it could be perpetrated on him as well. I am sorry for your client. She has so many bad aspects natally that they were bound to come due sometime. She may have had approximately the same kind of dreariness 22-years-ago and lead her into the initial lawsuit in the first place. I would suggest to see how she was faring at that time, around 22 to 22 and half years ago. The difference today is that she has very bad transits over some of her most critical points with respect to material, mental, and emotional life. And these transits of the slow moving planets just sit there and seem never to move away. By the way, the threat of jail, Saturn/Vulkanos, is real. She may not be actually jailed, but she does supervision by the state, because directed Kronos is now hitting that aspect. The various planetary pictures for being jailed, Saturn+Vulkanos-Ascendant or –Uranus, are now both active. However, the one with Uranus is, as the directed Moon, one of the personal points, is on it. She must be exceptionally vigilant at this time. The third jailing planetary picture is the most troubling, however. It is Saturn+Vulkanos-Neptune and the directed picture is now hitting Saturn, which is like having a dasha activation. So, she must be exceptionally careful. However, in all likelihood, these aspects do not necessarily mean a prison jailing, but they do mean that your client is going to be completely dependent on others for an indefinite period of time. In effect, she is being imprisoned, because she cannot have any genuine independence. God, I haven’t seen so many bad aspects in play in a long time for anyone. Also, because she has Virgo ascendant (tropical zodiac), her tertiary progressions will indicate that in an average life span, she will have 20 significant life reversals. The last one occurred at the last tertiary station of Mercury of May 2004. I have the same ascendant, and I face these things every few years so I know what that is about personally. I think that you can simply translate some these ideas into Vedic system. If you used Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto, you probably would see their influence in her Vedic chart. They have a tendency to confirm rather than distort ordinary Vedic analysis. You may want to look at that. For the man Pluto is in the last degrees of Gemini (Krishnamurthi anyanamsha), 26:56 retrograding in the eighth (a bad place for it even in traditional Western astrology); Neptune, 16:28 of Leo, in the tenth (Neptune rules fraud and failure); while Uranus is in his fifth, quick reversals in all fifth house activities. For her, Pluto would be sitting the 12th, a bad for it even in Western astrology (I have one as it is also a threat of imprisonment or confinement); her Neptune is in the second, fraud or great confusion with respect to finances; and her Uranus is in the 11th, disrupting all 11th house matters, including her hopes. Just a few ideas to work with. Best regards, Kalev Pehme Dear Gurus of this group, being an astrologer myself, I do need your assistance and advise: A lady client of mine, born January 18th, 1945 20.53 h at 09°47´26 e and 53°33´05 n who has had a very successful career, is having a court case since 18 years for claiming quite a big amount of money/provision from a former business partner, whom she submitted business worth 20 Million Germany Marks within one year. Whenever the planets were excellent and hope for getting her money came up, the judges made a false statement or her lawyers threw the court case for no reasons at all. During the last 13 years the judges asked for proof, that she had brought her business partner this and that business/order, and when she brought the proof, the judges told her, that the proof is not accepted. During the past 13 years the lady had three strokes, lost all her money by paying various lawyers and is completely broke. Some weeks ago she lost the court case, because the judges did not accept her proofs, although by German and European law they had to accept the proofs. Now her planets are very good again, but reality is, that her former business partner now wants her to pay for his lawyers, and as she cannot do so, he is trying to arrest her / put her in prison. Since ten years she is seeking help of German officials, but either they do not answer or the German officials write to her "that there is no interest in taking any action". She has consulted various astrologers and she even went to Puttaparthy to seek Sai Baba`s help, who had helped her through many dark days. He accepted her letter and whenever she is asking him inside, her tells her she would be fine ... The business man`s data is: February 10th, 1933 04.20 h a.m. 06°47 e and 51°12 n. Do you have an advise what is happing here ? Why is this business man pampered by all officials, although he is not a public person. What is going on behind the curtains, that all judges make false statements, although this business man never showed up personally in court, but had sent his lawyers only ? Your advise will be highly appreciated. Ma Bodhi Tabdar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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