Kundalini..to Prabodh (Body parts and houses)

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Dear Jyoti Ji Namaste

 

When Kundalini gets activated (or call it s gets disturbed!) from

Muladhara, person will see the effects of reaching above Time &

Space. That is why to control ourself in such condition, one

requires protection of GURU. WHen kundalini gets Ajna, ultimate

siddhis are attained. Reaching above Time and Sapce is very

elementry level of siddhi for such Yogi! They get it in first

instance of Kundalini activation.

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

Jai Jai Shankar

Har Har Shankar

 

 

vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi"

<jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:

>

> Respected Sir,

>

> Will just by the activation of Kundalini a person be

above

> Time and space? Shouldnt the Kundalini transcend the Ajna Chakra

for

> that? From what I have understood, Ajna Chakra is associated with

> mind and only when it is transcended, the space-time frame breaks.

> Please correct me if I am wrong.

>

> With respects,

> Jyothi

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande"

> <amolmandar> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Narashimha Namaste

> >

> > Once I get the permission(from swamijee) for sending birth

details

> I

> > will send it.

> >

> > Now for Kundalini related expirence,it should not essentially

> always

> > have some influance of 8th house. Ofcourse I am just putting my

> > logical point of view. Kundalini may start ascending from

Muladhara

> > on a perticular day. On that day he must have some effect of 8th

> > house. After that the person is totally under the control of

> > Kundalini & GURU. It is very dynamic force and hence gets

randomly

> > activated once shifted from the Muladhara. That is why, sense of

> > Time and Space is lost. I mean when Kundalini is activated and

is

> > not yet settled,one will be above Time and Sapce. So how can we

> > apply Time?

> >

> > BTW, Sanjay in COVA on Pg no 379 has said regarding OSHO chart

> > "The Moon is the lord of the 12th house ruling emancipation &

> > meditation and is in debility in Scorpio the occult sign ruling

> > Kundalini Shakti..." He has on the same page said

that "Kundalini

> > Shakti is the power that is dormant at the base of spine called

> > Muladhara Chakra" That confirms relation between Scorpio and

> > Muladhara!

> >

> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> >

> > Prabodh Vekhande

> > Jai Jai Shankar

> > Har Har Shankar

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> > <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Prabodh,

> > >

> > > Based on the few examples I have, I strongly disagree with

your

> > view.

> > >

> > > Whether Kundalini has just awakened in Mooladhara chakra or

> > whether Kundalini has just ascended from Anahata chakra to

Visuddhi

> > chakra, all Kundalini experiences are governed by the 8th house

in

> > my view.

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance for the data you promised. Yes, I will keep

the

> > charts used in Kundalini matters as secret and only share

> > astrological principles I validate on those charts with others.

> > >

> > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > Narasimha

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> > > > Dear Narshimha Namste

> > > >

> > > > > My point is that all activities relating to Kundalini,

such

> as

> > > > >awakening, rise from Mooladhara to Swadhishthana, rise to

> > Anahata,

> > > > >rise from Anahata to Visuddhi, rise from Visuddhi to Ajna

etc,

> > ARE

> > > > >governed by the 8th house.

> > > >

> > > > I think when Kundalini rising from Muladhara for the first

time

> > > > should be govrened by 8th house. Once the process of

awakening

> > > > begins it may take few years and every time it may not be

the

> > 8th

> > > > house effect.

> > > >

> > > > I will give you one of the chart and related details. Let

the

> > data

> > > > be with you only.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > > >

> > > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > > Har Har Shankar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R.

Rao"

> > > > <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Prabodh,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, Kundalini awakening happens when Kundalini is in

> > Mooladhara

> > > > chakra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then Kundalini may take a few years to reach Anahata

chakra

> > (if

> > > > She does at all), via Swadhishthana chakra and Manipoora

> chakra.

> > > > Then Kundalini may take a few more years to reach Visuddhi

> > chakra

> > > > (if She does at all). And so on.

> > > > >

> > > > > My point is that all activities relating to Kundalini,

such

> as

> > > > awakening, rise from Mooladhara to Swadhishthana, rise to

> > Anahata,

> > > > rise from Anahata to Visuddhi, rise from Visuddhi to Ajna

etc,

> > ARE

> > > > governed by the 8th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Some may say that Kundalini being seen in the 8th house

means

> > that

> > > > Mooladhara chakra is in the 8th house, as Kundalini is in

the

> > > > Mooladhara chakra in unawakened state. This implies that

> > Kundalini's

> > > > rise from Anahata chakra to Visuddhi chakra should be seen

from

> > > > another house (perhaps the house that shows Anahata chakra).

> > > > >

> > > > > I am taking an issue with that view and saying that

Kundalini

> > is

> > > > always seen from the 8th house. Whether Kundalini just woke

up

> > in

> > > > Mooladhara or whether Kundalini just moved from Anahata to

> > Visuddhi,

> > > > the activities of Kundalini ARE from the 8th house always.

> > > > >

> > > > > What Kundalini does at a given point of time may have to

be

> > > > figured out from the interactions between the 8th house and

> > other

> > > > houses relating to various chakras.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Some people may confuse the

> > > > > > > stimulation of vayus in Mooladhara chakra as a

Kundalini

> > > > awakening

> > > > > > > and the flow of vayus to various chakras as Kundalini

> > rising.

> > > > Thus,

> > > > > > > some data can be false data and it is tough to get

> > authentic

> > > > data. I

> > > > > > > know very few people that I am convinced had a genuine

> > > > Kundalini

> > > > > > > experience. Thus, I cannot theorize with certainty.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If Kundalini is rising then there is no psudo

> > > > > > expirences but if you are pretending (because of the

> > influence

> > > > of

> > > > > > Internet based Yogis and TV or any other reason) then

> nobody

> > can

> > > > > > help.

> > > > >

> > > > > If really Kundalini rose, one will know FOR SURE that it

was

> > > > Kundalini. There is no possibility of any confusion and

> > unsureness.

> > > > But, until one gets the actual experience, one can construe

> > various

> > > > premonitory signs as a Kundalini experience. They may not be

> > > > pretentious and may be quite sincere, but it is easy to be

> > confused.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, my point is that it is tough to get birthdata of

> > people

> > > > with truly risen Kundalinis. I only have charts in single

> > digits.

> > > > Unfortunately, I have to keep all the data secretive.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you know any Yogis with genuine Kundalini experiences,

> > please

> > > > do share the birthdata and the dates/times of important

> > experiences

> > > > with me by private mail (pvr@c...). That can help future

> > researches.

> > > > If someone wants their data to be secretive, I can honor

that.

> I

> > > > will use the data only in creating/verifying principles and

> will

> > > > only share the principles with others and not the data (like

> > I've

> > > > been doing with regard to Kundalini experiences).

> > > > >

> > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > > > Narasimha

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> > > > > > Dear Narshimha Namaste

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Actually I met few people who were kind enough to expain

> the

> > > > process

> > > > > > of Kundalini rising. Not only that it was pretty clear

> after

> > > > their

> > > > > > teachings that all the santa of Maharashrta(Maharashtra

has

> > a

> > > > long

> > > > > > and good Santa parampara)right from Gyneshwar to

ChokhaMela

> > all

> > > > have

> > > > > > given similar expirences about Kundalini rising. I know

> that

> > > > there

> > > > > > is one school of understanding that says that Kundalini

> > rising

> > > > and

> > > > > > its expirence is a indiviual phenomenon and everybody

may

> > have

> > > > > > different opinion. But I know for sure that more-or-less

> > > > everybody

> > > > > > will have similar expirences. I can say because of Santa

> > > > Vadgmaya

> > > > > > that I have stuided.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As far as psudo expirences of Apana Vayu & Prana Vayu

flow,

> > I

> > > > think

> > > > > > it is not possible. If Kundalini is rising then there is

no

> > > > psudo

> > > > > > expirences but if you are pretending (because of the

> > influence

> > > > of

> > > > > > Internet based Yogis and TV or any other reason) then

> nobody

> > can

> > > > > > help.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I could not understand your last para. This is what I

> > > > understood.

> > > > > > Plese correct if required.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1)Kundalini sleeps at the Muladhara in every person

> > unactivated

> > > > > > 2)Kundalini shakti can move to other chakras because of

> > > > spiritual

> > > > > > progress. This implies that when such movement happens

it

> is

> > not

> > > > > > treated as kundalini rising. Am I correct? So now we

will

> > have

> > > > two

> > > > > > things;Kundalini Movement and Kundalini Rising. This as

> well

> > > > means

> > > > > > that Kundalini rising may start from any chakra. I think

> > this is

> > > > not

> > > > > > correct and possible as well. When Kundalini will start

> > rising

> > > > it

> > > > > > will always start from Muladhara. You have to learn

> > > > UdiyyanBandha

> > > > > > before you attempt this process. Possibly you may be

aware

> > of

> > > > why

> > > > > > this Bandha is a must to start Kundalini awakening. Once

> > this

> > > > > > Kundalini starts rising it will possibly take a year or

two

> > to

> > > > reach

> > > > > > its destination. During that time only one will have

> > expirences.

> > > > If

> > > > > > the Kundalini does not reach to proper destination

(which

> is

> > > > very

> > > > > > common ) it may kill you and that is why one requires a

> real

> > > > GURU to

> > > > > > guide through this awakening process.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So in my humble view, Kundalini awakening begins at

> > Muladhara

> > > > > > only.Secondly,Kundalini awakening expirences are related

to

> > 8th

> > > > > > house. So it is more logical to say that Muladhara is at

> 8th

> > > > house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If it is applied to normal Purusha it should be appiled

to

> > Kala

> > > > > > Purush as well! So in KalaPurusha we should see

Muladhara

> in

> > 8th

> > > > > > house and hence in Scorpio. Ofcourse, this is my opinion

> and

> > may

> > > > be

> > > > > > wrong.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > > > > Har Har Shankar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "Narasimha

P.V.R.

> > Rao"

> > > > > > <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Prabodh,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I appreciate your bringing up this point.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In my humble view, Kundalini IS to be seen from the

8th

> > house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Unfortunately, I have very few charts of people who

had a

> > > > > > Kundalini awakening and Kundalini rise. Some people may

> > confuse

> > > > the

> > > > > > stimulation of vayus in Mooladhara chakra as a Kundalini

> > > > awakening

> > > > > > and the flow of vayus to various chakras as Kundalini

> > rising.

> > > > Thus,

> > > > > > some data can be false data and it is tough to get

> authentic

> > > > data. I

> > > > > > know very few people that I am convinced had a genuine

> > Kundalini

> > > > > > experience. Thus, I cannot theorize with certainty.

> However,

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > few reliable charts I saw, the 8th house is prominent

and

> > the

> > > > 8th

> > > > > > house related dasas were running at the time Kundalini

woke

> > up

> > > > and

> > > > > > rose.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Any genuine Kundalini experience is practically a

> > temporary

> > > > death.

> > > > > > No wonder the 8th house is important.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > However, please note that the 8th house showing

Kundalini

> > > > > > experiences does not imply that the 8th house shows

> > Mooladhara

> > > > > > chakra. Even though Kundalini in a normal person sleeps

> > while

> > > > > > coiling the Swayambhoo Linga that is placed at the

center

> of

> > > > > > Mooladhara chakra, Kundalini shakti can move to other

> > chakras

> > > > with

> > > > > > spiritual progress. Irrespective of where one's

Kundalini

> > is -

> > > > at

> > > > > > Mooladhara chakra or at Anahata chakra or at Ajna chakra

or

> > at

> > > > > > another chakra - ALL experiences related to Kundalini

ARE

> > shown

> > > > by

> > > > > > the 8th house in my view.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > How to see the interactions between the 8th house and

> > other

> > > > houses

> > > > > > to figure out when Kundalini rises to what chakra is an

> area

> > > > open

> > > > > > for research.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > > > > > Narasimha

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> > > > > > > > Dear Narshima Namaste

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am not expert in this subject but jaut a random

> > thought...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > you wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The 8th house (Sc) covers the "guhya". Guhya means

the

> > > > genitals

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > anus.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Guhya as well means mystery or secret. Kundalini

> shakti

> > is

> > > > a

> > > > > > > > mystery and is very secret for many people in the

> world.

> > > > > > Moroeover,

> > > > > > > > Kundalini Ugama Sthana is also known as Guhya

Shtana.So

> > why

> > > > not

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > consider Kundalini sthana to be in 8th house?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > > > > > > Har Har Shankar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > P.S: Although, Guhya as well means anus or

genitials,

> > there

> > > > are

> > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > sects where these body parts are considered as Guhya!

> > >

> >

>