Kundalini..to Prabodh (Body parts and houses)

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Respected Sir,

 

Will just by the activation of Kundalini a person be above

Time and space? Shouldnt the Kundalini transcend the Ajna Chakra for

that? From what I have understood, Ajna Chakra is associated with

mind and only when it is transcended, the space-time frame breaks.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

With respects,

Jyothi

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande"

<amolmandar> wrote:

>

> Dear Narashimha Namaste

>

> Once I get the permission(from swamijee) for sending birth details

I

> will send it.

>

> Now for Kundalini related expirence,it should not essentially

always

> have some influance of 8th house. Ofcourse I am just putting my

> logical point of view. Kundalini may start ascending from Muladhara

> on a perticular day. On that day he must have some effect of 8th

> house. After that the person is totally under the control of

> Kundalini & GURU. It is very dynamic force and hence gets randomly

> activated once shifted from the Muladhara. That is why, sense of

> Time and Space is lost. I mean when Kundalini is activated and is

> not yet settled,one will be above Time and Sapce. So how can we

> apply Time?

>

> BTW, Sanjay in COVA on Pg no 379 has said regarding OSHO chart

> "The Moon is the lord of the 12th house ruling emancipation &

> meditation and is in debility in Scorpio the occult sign ruling

> Kundalini Shakti..." He has on the same page said that "Kundalini

> Shakti is the power that is dormant at the base of spine called

> Muladhara Chakra" That confirms relation between Scorpio and

> Muladhara!

>

> Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

>

> Prabodh Vekhande

> Jai Jai Shankar

> Har Har Shankar

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> <pvr@c...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Prabodh,

> >

> > Based on the few examples I have, I strongly disagree with your

> view.

> >

> > Whether Kundalini has just awakened in Mooladhara chakra or

> whether Kundalini has just ascended from Anahata chakra to Visuddhi

> chakra, all Kundalini experiences are governed by the 8th house in

> my view.

> >

> > Thanks in advance for the data you promised. Yes, I will keep the

> charts used in Kundalini matters as secret and only share

> astrological principles I validate on those charts with others.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

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> >

> > > Dear Narshimha Namste

> > >

> > > > My point is that all activities relating to Kundalini, such

as

> > > >awakening, rise from Mooladhara to Swadhishthana, rise to

> Anahata,

> > > >rise from Anahata to Visuddhi, rise from Visuddhi to Ajna etc,

> ARE

> > > >governed by the 8th house.

> > >

> > > I think when Kundalini rising from Muladhara for the first time

> > > should be govrened by 8th house. Once the process of awakening

> > > begins it may take few years and every time it may not be the

> 8th

> > > house effect.

> > >

> > > I will give you one of the chart and related details. Let the

> data

> > > be with you only.

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > >

> > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > Har Har Shankar

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> > > <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prabodh,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, Kundalini awakening happens when Kundalini is in

> Mooladhara

> > > chakra.

> > > >

> > > > Then Kundalini may take a few years to reach Anahata chakra

> (if

> > > She does at all), via Swadhishthana chakra and Manipoora

chakra.

> > > Then Kundalini may take a few more years to reach Visuddhi

> chakra

> > > (if She does at all). And so on.

> > > >

> > > > My point is that all activities relating to Kundalini, such

as

> > > awakening, rise from Mooladhara to Swadhishthana, rise to

> Anahata,

> > > rise from Anahata to Visuddhi, rise from Visuddhi to Ajna etc,

> ARE

> > > governed by the 8th house.

> > > >

> > > > Some may say that Kundalini being seen in the 8th house means

> that

> > > Mooladhara chakra is in the 8th house, as Kundalini is in the

> > > Mooladhara chakra in unawakened state. This implies that

> Kundalini's

> > > rise from Anahata chakra to Visuddhi chakra should be seen from

> > > another house (perhaps the house that shows Anahata chakra).

> > > >

> > > > I am taking an issue with that view and saying that Kundalini

> is

> > > always seen from the 8th house. Whether Kundalini just woke up

> in

> > > Mooladhara or whether Kundalini just moved from Anahata to

> Visuddhi,

> > > the activities of Kundalini ARE from the 8th house always.

> > > >

> > > > What Kundalini does at a given point of time may have to be

> > > figured out from the interactions between the 8th house and

> other

> > > houses relating to various chakras.

> > > >

> > > > > > Some people may confuse the

> > > > > > stimulation of vayus in Mooladhara chakra as a Kundalini

> > > awakening

> > > > > > and the flow of vayus to various chakras as Kundalini

> rising.

> > > Thus,

> > > > > > some data can be false data and it is tough to get

> authentic

> > > data. I

> > > > > > know very few people that I am convinced had a genuine

> > > Kundalini

> > > > > > experience. Thus, I cannot theorize with certainty.

> > > > >

> > > > > If Kundalini is rising then there is no psudo

> > > > > expirences but if you are pretending (because of the

> influence

> > > of

> > > > > Internet based Yogis and TV or any other reason) then

nobody

> can

> > > > > help.

> > > >

> > > > If really Kundalini rose, one will know FOR SURE that it was

> > > Kundalini. There is no possibility of any confusion and

> unsureness.

> > > But, until one gets the actual experience, one can construe

> various

> > > premonitory signs as a Kundalini experience. They may not be

> > > pretentious and may be quite sincere, but it is easy to be

> confused.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, my point is that it is tough to get birthdata of

> people

> > > with truly risen Kundalinis. I only have charts in single

> digits.

> > > Unfortunately, I have to keep all the data secretive.

> > > >

> > > > If you know any Yogis with genuine Kundalini experiences,

> please

> > > do share the birthdata and the dates/times of important

> experiences

> > > with me by private mail (pvr@c...). That can help future

> researches.

> > > If someone wants their data to be secretive, I can honor that.

I

> > > will use the data only in creating/verifying principles and

will

> > > only share the principles with others and not the data (like

> I've

> > > been doing with regard to Kundalini experiences).

> > > >

> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > > Narasimha

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> > > >

> > > > > Dear Narshimha Namaste

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually I met few people who were kind enough to expain

the

> > > process

> > > > > of Kundalini rising. Not only that it was pretty clear

after

> > > their

> > > > > teachings that all the santa of Maharashrta(Maharashtra has

> a

> > > long

> > > > > and good Santa parampara)right from Gyneshwar to ChokhaMela

> all

> > > have

> > > > > given similar expirences about Kundalini rising. I know

that

> > > there

> > > > > is one school of understanding that says that Kundalini

> rising

> > > and

> > > > > its expirence is a indiviual phenomenon and everybody may

> have

> > > > > different opinion. But I know for sure that more-or-less

> > > everybody

> > > > > will have similar expirences. I can say because of Santa

> > > Vadgmaya

> > > > > that I have stuided.

> > > > >

> > > > > As far as psudo expirences of Apana Vayu & Prana Vayu flow,

> I

> > > think

> > > > > it is not possible. If Kundalini is rising then there is no

> > > psudo

> > > > > expirences but if you are pretending (because of the

> influence

> > > of

> > > > > Internet based Yogis and TV or any other reason) then

nobody

> can

> > > > > help.

> > > > >

> > > > > I could not understand your last para. This is what I

> > > understood.

> > > > > Plese correct if required.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1)Kundalini sleeps at the Muladhara in every person

> unactivated

> > > > > 2)Kundalini shakti can move to other chakras because of

> > > spiritual

> > > > > progress. This implies that when such movement happens it

is

> not

> > > > > treated as kundalini rising. Am I correct? So now we will

> have

> > > two

> > > > > things;Kundalini Movement and Kundalini Rising. This as

well

> > > means

> > > > > that Kundalini rising may start from any chakra. I think

> this is

> > > not

> > > > > correct and possible as well. When Kundalini will start

> rising

> > > it

> > > > > will always start from Muladhara. You have to learn

> > > UdiyyanBandha

> > > > > before you attempt this process. Possibly you may be aware

> of

> > > why

> > > > > this Bandha is a must to start Kundalini awakening. Once

> this

> > > > > Kundalini starts rising it will possibly take a year or two

> to

> > > reach

> > > > > its destination. During that time only one will have

> expirences.

> > > If

> > > > > the Kundalini does not reach to proper destination (which

is

> > > very

> > > > > common ) it may kill you and that is why one requires a

real

> > > GURU to

> > > > > guide through this awakening process.

> > > > >

> > > > > So in my humble view, Kundalini awakening begins at

> Muladhara

> > > > > only.Secondly,Kundalini awakening expirences are related to

> 8th

> > > > > house. So it is more logical to say that Muladhara is at

8th

> > > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > If it is applied to normal Purusha it should be appiled to

> Kala

> > > > > Purush as well! So in KalaPurusha we should see Muladhara

in

> 8th

> > > > > house and hence in Scorpio. Ofcourse, this is my opinion

and

> may

> > > be

> > > > > wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > > > >

> > > > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > > > Har Har Shankar

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R.

> Rao"

> > > > > <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Prabodh,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I appreciate your bringing up this point.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In my humble view, Kundalini IS to be seen from the 8th

> house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unfortunately, I have very few charts of people who had a

> > > > > Kundalini awakening and Kundalini rise. Some people may

> confuse

> > > the

> > > > > stimulation of vayus in Mooladhara chakra as a Kundalini

> > > awakening

> > > > > and the flow of vayus to various chakras as Kundalini

> rising.

> > > Thus,

> > > > > some data can be false data and it is tough to get

authentic

> > > data. I

> > > > > know very few people that I am convinced had a genuine

> Kundalini

> > > > > experience. Thus, I cannot theorize with certainty.

However,

> in

> > > the

> > > > > few reliable charts I saw, the 8th house is prominent and

> the

> > > 8th

> > > > > house related dasas were running at the time Kundalini woke

> up

> > > and

> > > > > rose.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any genuine Kundalini experience is practically a

> temporary

> > > death.

> > > > > No wonder the 8th house is important.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > However, please note that the 8th house showing Kundalini

> > > > > experiences does not imply that the 8th house shows

> Mooladhara

> > > > > chakra. Even though Kundalini in a normal person sleeps

> while

> > > > > coiling the Swayambhoo Linga that is placed at the center

of

> > > > > Mooladhara chakra, Kundalini shakti can move to other

> chakras

> > > with

> > > > > spiritual progress. Irrespective of where one's Kundalini

> is -

> > > at

> > > > > Mooladhara chakra or at Anahata chakra or at Ajna chakra or

> at

> > > > > another chakra - ALL experiences related to Kundalini ARE

> shown

> > > by

> > > > > the 8th house in my view.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How to see the interactions between the 8th house and

> other

> > > houses

> > > > > to figure out when Kundalini rises to what chakra is an

area

> > > open

> > > > > for research.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > > > > Narasimha

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> > > -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Narshima Namaste

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am not expert in this subject but jaut a random

> thought...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > you wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The 8th house (Sc) covers the "guhya". Guhya means the

> > > genitals

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > anus.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Guhya as well means mystery or secret. Kundalini

shakti

> is

> > > a

> > > > > > > mystery and is very secret for many people in the

world.

> > > > > Moroeover,

> > > > > > > Kundalini Ugama Sthana is also known as Guhya Shtana.So

> why

> > > not

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > consider Kundalini sthana to be in 8th house?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > > > > > Har Har Shankar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > P.S: Although, Guhya as well means anus or genitials,

> there

> > > are

> > > > > many

> > > > > > > sects where these body parts are considered as Guhya!

> >

>