Kundalini..to Prabodh (Body parts and houses)

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Dear Narashimha Namaste

 

Once I get the permission(from swamijee) for sending birth details I

will send it.

 

Now for Kundalini related expirence,it should not essentially always

have some influance of 8th house. Ofcourse I am just putting my

logical point of view. Kundalini may start ascending from Muladhara

on a perticular day. On that day he must have some effect of 8th

house. After that the person is totally under the control of

Kundalini & GURU. It is very dynamic force and hence gets randomly

activated once shifted from the Muladhara. That is why, sense of

Time and Space is lost. I mean when Kundalini is activated and is

not yet settled,one will be above Time and Sapce. So how can we

apply Time?

 

BTW, Sanjay in COVA on Pg no 379 has said regarding OSHO chart

"The Moon is the lord of the 12th house ruling emancipation &

meditation and is in debility in Scorpio the occult sign ruling

Kundalini Shakti..." He has on the same page said that "Kundalini

Shakti is the power that is dormant at the base of spine called

Muladhara Chakra" That confirms relation between Scorpio and

Muladhara!

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

Jai Jai Shankar

Har Har Shankar

 

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

>

> Dear Prabodh,

>

> Based on the few examples I have, I strongly disagree with your

view.

>

> Whether Kundalini has just awakened in Mooladhara chakra or

whether Kundalini has just ascended from Anahata chakra to Visuddhi

chakra, all Kundalini experiences are governed by the 8th house in

my view.

>

> Thanks in advance for the data you promised. Yes, I will keep the

charts used in Kundalini matters as secret and only share

astrological principles I validate on those charts with others.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

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> > Dear Narshimha Namste

> >

> > > My point is that all activities relating to Kundalini, such as

> > >awakening, rise from Mooladhara to Swadhishthana, rise to

Anahata,

> > >rise from Anahata to Visuddhi, rise from Visuddhi to Ajna etc,

ARE

> > >governed by the 8th house.

> >

> > I think when Kundalini rising from Muladhara for the first time

> > should be govrened by 8th house. Once the process of awakening

> > begins it may take few years and every time it may not be the

8th

> > house effect.

> >

> > I will give you one of the chart and related details. Let the

data

> > be with you only.

> >

> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> >

> > Prabodh Vekhande

> > Jai Jai Shankar

> > Har Har Shankar

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> > <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Prabodh,

> > >

> > > Yes, Kundalini awakening happens when Kundalini is in

Mooladhara

> > chakra.

> > >

> > > Then Kundalini may take a few years to reach Anahata chakra

(if

> > She does at all), via Swadhishthana chakra and Manipoora chakra.

> > Then Kundalini may take a few more years to reach Visuddhi

chakra

> > (if She does at all). And so on.

> > >

> > > My point is that all activities relating to Kundalini, such as

> > awakening, rise from Mooladhara to Swadhishthana, rise to

Anahata,

> > rise from Anahata to Visuddhi, rise from Visuddhi to Ajna etc,

ARE

> > governed by the 8th house.

> > >

> > > Some may say that Kundalini being seen in the 8th house means

that

> > Mooladhara chakra is in the 8th house, as Kundalini is in the

> > Mooladhara chakra in unawakened state. This implies that

Kundalini's

> > rise from Anahata chakra to Visuddhi chakra should be seen from

> > another house (perhaps the house that shows Anahata chakra).

> > >

> > > I am taking an issue with that view and saying that Kundalini

is

> > always seen from the 8th house. Whether Kundalini just woke up

in

> > Mooladhara or whether Kundalini just moved from Anahata to

Visuddhi,

> > the activities of Kundalini ARE from the 8th house always.

> > >

> > > What Kundalini does at a given point of time may have to be

> > figured out from the interactions between the 8th house and

other

> > houses relating to various chakras.

> > >

> > > > > Some people may confuse the

> > > > > stimulation of vayus in Mooladhara chakra as a Kundalini

> > awakening

> > > > > and the flow of vayus to various chakras as Kundalini

rising.

> > Thus,

> > > > > some data can be false data and it is tough to get

authentic

> > data. I

> > > > > know very few people that I am convinced had a genuine

> > Kundalini

> > > > > experience. Thus, I cannot theorize with certainty.

> > > >

> > > > If Kundalini is rising then there is no psudo

> > > > expirences but if you are pretending (because of the

influence

> > of

> > > > Internet based Yogis and TV or any other reason) then nobody

can

> > > > help.

> > >

> > > If really Kundalini rose, one will know FOR SURE that it was

> > Kundalini. There is no possibility of any confusion and

unsureness.

> > But, until one gets the actual experience, one can construe

various

> > premonitory signs as a Kundalini experience. They may not be

> > pretentious and may be quite sincere, but it is easy to be

confused.

> > >

> > > Anyway, my point is that it is tough to get birthdata of

people

> > with truly risen Kundalinis. I only have charts in single

digits.

> > Unfortunately, I have to keep all the data secretive.

> > >

> > > If you know any Yogis with genuine Kundalini experiences,

please

> > do share the birthdata and the dates/times of important

experiences

> > with me by private mail (pvr@c...). That can help future

researches.

> > If someone wants their data to be secretive, I can honor that. I

> > will use the data only in creating/verifying principles and will

> > only share the principles with others and not the data (like

I've

> > been doing with regard to Kundalini experiences).

> > >

> > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > Narasimha

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> > >

> > > > Dear Narshimha Namaste

> > > >

> > > > Actually I met few people who were kind enough to expain the

> > process

> > > > of Kundalini rising. Not only that it was pretty clear after

> > their

> > > > teachings that all the santa of Maharashrta(Maharashtra has

a

> > long

> > > > and good Santa parampara)right from Gyneshwar to ChokhaMela

all

> > have

> > > > given similar expirences about Kundalini rising. I know that

> > there

> > > > is one school of understanding that says that Kundalini

rising

> > and

> > > > its expirence is a indiviual phenomenon and everybody may

have

> > > > different opinion. But I know for sure that more-or-less

> > everybody

> > > > will have similar expirences. I can say because of Santa

> > Vadgmaya

> > > > that I have stuided.

> > > >

> > > > As far as psudo expirences of Apana Vayu & Prana Vayu flow,

I

> > think

> > > > it is not possible. If Kundalini is rising then there is no

> > psudo

> > > > expirences but if you are pretending (because of the

influence

> > of

> > > > Internet based Yogis and TV or any other reason) then nobody

can

> > > > help.

> > > >

> > > > I could not understand your last para. This is what I

> > understood.

> > > > Plese correct if required.

> > > >

> > > > 1)Kundalini sleeps at the Muladhara in every person

unactivated

> > > > 2)Kundalini shakti can move to other chakras because of

> > spiritual

> > > > progress. This implies that when such movement happens it is

not

> > > > treated as kundalini rising. Am I correct? So now we will

have

> > two

> > > > things;Kundalini Movement and Kundalini Rising. This as well

> > means

> > > > that Kundalini rising may start from any chakra. I think

this is

> > not

> > > > correct and possible as well. When Kundalini will start

rising

> > it

> > > > will always start from Muladhara. You have to learn

> > UdiyyanBandha

> > > > before you attempt this process. Possibly you may be aware

of

> > why

> > > > this Bandha is a must to start Kundalini awakening. Once

this

> > > > Kundalini starts rising it will possibly take a year or two

to

> > reach

> > > > its destination. During that time only one will have

expirences.

> > If

> > > > the Kundalini does not reach to proper destination (which is

> > very

> > > > common ) it may kill you and that is why one requires a real

> > GURU to

> > > > guide through this awakening process.

> > > >

> > > > So in my humble view, Kundalini awakening begins at

Muladhara

> > > > only.Secondly,Kundalini awakening expirences are related to

8th

> > > > house. So it is more logical to say that Muladhara is at 8th

> > house.

> > > >

> > > > If it is applied to normal Purusha it should be appiled to

Kala

> > > > Purush as well! So in KalaPurusha we should see Muladhara in

8th

> > > > house and hence in Scorpio. Ofcourse, this is my opinion and

may

> > be

> > > > wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > > >

> > > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > > Har Har Shankar

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R.

Rao"

> > > > <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Prabodh,

> > > > >

> > > > > I appreciate your bringing up this point.

> > > > >

> > > > > In my humble view, Kundalini IS to be seen from the 8th

house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Unfortunately, I have very few charts of people who had a

> > > > Kundalini awakening and Kundalini rise. Some people may

confuse

> > the

> > > > stimulation of vayus in Mooladhara chakra as a Kundalini

> > awakening

> > > > and the flow of vayus to various chakras as Kundalini

rising.

> > Thus,

> > > > some data can be false data and it is tough to get authentic

> > data. I

> > > > know very few people that I am convinced had a genuine

Kundalini

> > > > experience. Thus, I cannot theorize with certainty. However,

in

> > the

> > > > few reliable charts I saw, the 8th house is prominent and

the

> > 8th

> > > > house related dasas were running at the time Kundalini woke

up

> > and

> > > > rose.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any genuine Kundalini experience is practically a

temporary

> > death.

> > > > No wonder the 8th house is important.

> > > > >

> > > > > However, please note that the 8th house showing Kundalini

> > > > experiences does not imply that the 8th house shows

Mooladhara

> > > > chakra. Even though Kundalini in a normal person sleeps

while

> > > > coiling the Swayambhoo Linga that is placed at the center of

> > > > Mooladhara chakra, Kundalini shakti can move to other

chakras

> > with

> > > > spiritual progress. Irrespective of where one's Kundalini

is -

> > at

> > > > Mooladhara chakra or at Anahata chakra or at Ajna chakra or

at

> > > > another chakra - ALL experiences related to Kundalini ARE

shown

> > by

> > > > the 8th house in my view.

> > > > >

> > > > > How to see the interactions between the 8th house and

other

> > houses

> > > > to figure out when Kundalini rises to what chakra is an area

> > open

> > > > for research.

> > > > >

> > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > > > Narasimha

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> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Narshima Namaste

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am not expert in this subject but jaut a random

thought...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The 8th house (Sc) covers the "guhya". Guhya means the

> > genitals

> > > > and

> > > > > > anus.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Guhya as well means mystery or secret. Kundalini shakti

is

> > a

> > > > > > mystery and is very secret for many people in the world.

> > > > Moroeover,

> > > > > > Kundalini Ugama Sthana is also known as Guhya Shtana.So

why

> > not

> > > > to

> > > > > > consider Kundalini sthana to be in 8th house?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > > > > Har Har Shankar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P.S: Although, Guhya as well means anus or genitials,

there

> > are

> > > > many

> > > > > > sects where these body parts are considered as Guhya!

>