Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Hello Experts, Please explain about the difference between a LAB Created Gem Stone and a Natural Gem Stone. How much effective is a LAB Created Gem Stone say e.g. Blue Sapphire. Most of the Stores in US keep Lab Created Gem Stones fitted in low quality gold. Whether these act as an ideal substitute for a natural Blue Sappire in Silver or Pure Gold. Kind Regards, Harcharan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Haracharan, Namaste Bala's aura was refulgent with penance and though Indra killed him, so very, very powerful was the "essence" of Bala's body, it was involved in a tug of war by Devas, Yaksas, Siddhas, Serpents etc., different parts of his body turned in different gems and they all have special powers and purposes. (Some of these will be given in the Delhi Workshop in Jan 2006, so do try and attend :-)) Thousands of year before lab grown Chatham Emeralds and lab grown Ruby came into existence, it was already mentioned in the Purana! So, what is the difference??!! Love, Swee vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Harcharan Friday, November 25, 2005 6:05 AM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Gem Stones-- Difference between Lab Created Gem Stone and Natural -- SWEE Hello Experts, Please explain about the difference between a LAB Created Gem Stone and a Natural Gem Stone. How much effective is a LAB Created Gem Stone say e.g. Blue Sapphire. Most of the Stores in US keep Lab Created Gem Stones fitted in low quality gold. Whether these act as an ideal substitute for a natural Blue Sappire in Silver or Pure Gold. Kind Regards, Harcharan -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/181 - Release 11/24/2005 -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/181 - Release 11/24/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Yes in the USA they use 18 K gold while in India they set gemstones in 22 K gold. Also in Delhi there is a Gem testing lab in Jhandewalan Flatted Factory Complex where they test gemstones for as little as Rs. 200 per stone and give a superb certificate. In the USA you can also buy a Moisanite - it looks like a real diamond and many a traders in India have been fooled. Vishal. New Delhi. - Harcharan vedic astrology Friday, November 25, 2005 9:34 AM [vedic astrology] Gem Stones-- Difference between Lab Created Gem Stone and Natural -- SWEE Hello Experts,Please explain about the difference between a LAB Created Gem Stone and a Natural Gem Stone. How much effective is a LAB Created Gem Stone say e.g. Blue Sapphire.Most of the Stores in US keep Lab Created Gem Stones fitted in low quality gold. Whether these act as an ideal substitute for a natural Blue Sappire in Silver or Pure Gold.Kind Regards,Harcharan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 The gems are measured by 4C's and their physical properties. The following properties: Specific Gravity Refractive Index Hardness Cleavage Toughness Magnetic and Electric properties are different for a lab created gemstone. It is safe to assume that by altering the nature of the gemstone its effects will be altered too. If you want ideal substitutes then, it is best to go in for semi precious gemstones. For example, instead of a Emerald use Peridot or a Green Tourmaline. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 11/25/05, Harcharan <jassalh > wrote: Hello Experts, Please explain about the difference between a LAB Created Gem Stone and a Natural Gem Stone. How much effective is a LAB Created Gem Stone say e.g. Blue Sapphire. Most of the Stores in US keep Lab Created Gem Stones fitted in low quality gold. Whether these act as an ideal substitute for a natural Blue Sappire in Silver or Pure Gold. Kind Regards, Harcharan Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat, Namaste 12.0pt"> If you want ideal substitutes then, it is best to go in for semi precious gemstones. For example, instead of a Emerald use Peridot or a Green Tourmaline. Thanks and Regards Bharat Please give me the Sanskrit names for both Peridot and Green Tourmaline. Love, Swee -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/182 - Release 11/24/2005 -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/182 - Release 11/24/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Presently, I do not know the Sanskrit names for Peridot and Tourmaline. One of the articles with me from GII, Mumbai states that Peridot is derived from the word "Faridat". This is said to be an arabic word which means "Gem". Tourmaline comes from the Sri Lankan Singhalese word "tura mali". Tura Mali means a gem of many colors. Tourmaline is actually found in many different colors. Some beautiful tourmalines are of mixed colors. If I come to know of their sanskrit names, I shall share it with you. Thanks and Regards BharatOn 11/25/05, Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat, Namaste If you want ideal substitutes then, it is best to go in for semi precious gemstones. For example, instead of a Emerald use Peridot or a Green Tourmaline. Thanks and Regards Bharat Please give me the Sanskrit names for both Peridot and Green Tourmaline. Love, Swee Astrology chart Astrology reading Vedic astrology Divination tool Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/182 - Release 11/24/2005 -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/182 - Release 11/24/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha ? Dear Bharat, Namaste ? These are the names I have retrieved from Garuòa Purana for Emerald substitute: ? Bhallataka ?which is a very close imitation of emerald in features, colour and quality but its colour fades and changes when air is blown over it. It can be Green Beryl from Brazil, whose colour is not stable. It loses its colour when it has been exposed to Air/Sun. The other one that loses its colour is Spodumene. Zambian and Nigerian Green Beryls are stable in colour. ? Putrika loses its brilliance when rubbed with a silken cloth. This can be either Apatite or Peridot. Apatite’s colour is greener (less of the y ellowish tinge) but both Apatite and Peridot are very soft stones. After wearing for about a year, you might as well throw away the Peridot. :-) Most Apatite workings are around the same mining area where Aquamarine (Beryl) is found. ? In Emerald mining areas, mostly green Tourmalines are found. I have also found something that maybe of interest for budding miners: That if your Tourmaline finds are very good, then the finds for the Aquamarine is mostly eroded. (Usually, these finds are close by). Vanadium is the compound that colours the blue beryl (aquamarine) green. (One can also find the same compound in green Chrysoberyl). ? I think we can safely conclude that, because Emerald comes from the Beryl family, the best substitute is the Green Beryl which is a fraction of the price of Emerald. ? Love, Swee ? _____ vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu Astrology Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:53 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Gem Stones-- Difference between Lab Created Gem Stone and Natural -- SWEE ? Namaskaar Sri Swee Presently, I do not know the Sanskrit names for Peridot and Tourmaline. One of the articles with me from GII, Mumbai states that Peridot is derived from the word "Faridat". This is said to be an arabic word which means "Gem". Tourmaline comes from the Sri Lankan Singhalese word "tura mali". Tura Mali means a gem of many colors. Tourmaline is actually found in many different colors. Some beautiful tourmalines are of mixed colors. If I come to know of their sanskrit names, I shall share it with you. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 11/25/05, Swee Chan <HYPERLINK "swee"swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha ? Dear Bharat, Namaste If you want ideal substitutes then, it is best to go in for semi precious gemstones. For example, instead of a Emerald use Peridot or a Green Tourmaline. Thanks and Regards Bharat Please give me the Sanskrit names for both Peridot and Green Tourmaline. ? Love, Swee Archives: HYPERLINK "vedic astrology" \nvedic astrology Group info: HYPERLINK "vedic astrology/info.html" \nvedic astrology/info.html To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to HYPERLINK "vedic astrology-" \nvedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || HYPERLINK "/gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=A strology+reading&w3=Vedic+astrology&w4=Divination+tool&c=4&s=86&.sig=FNydvv6 ThywF3M1yP6dYsQ" \nAstrology chart HYPERLINK "/gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+reading&w1=Astrology+chart&w2 =Astrology+reading&w3=Vedic+astrology&w4=Divination+tool&c=4&s=86&.sig=HTjjy N6BdIN6PUU3eZpNsA" \nAstrology reading HYPERLINK "/gads?t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=A strology+reading&w3=Vedic+astrology&w4=Divination+tool&c=4&s=86&.sig=bb607gn l9ZM7K0K2EpO-zw" \nVedic astrology HYPERLINK "/gads?t=ms&k=Divination+tool&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=A strology+reading&w3=Vedic+astrology&w4=Divination+tool&c=4&s=86&.sig=6cpJ0GK gllBz30IiYxTDKg" \nDivination tool ? ? ? _____ ? * Visit your group "HYPERLINK "vedic astrology" \nvedic astrology" on the web. ? * HYPERLINK "vedic astrology?subject=Un" \n vedic astrology ? * HYPERLINK "http://docs. /info/terms/" \n ? _____ ? -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/182 - Release 11/24/2005 ? -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/182 - Release 11/24/2005 Archives: HYPERLINK "vedic astrology"v edic-astrology Group info: HYPERLINK "vedic astrology/info.html"http://www..c omvedic astrology/info.html || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || _____ ? * Visit your group "HYPERLINK "vedic astrology"vedic astrology" on the web. ? * HYPERLINK "vedic astrology?subject=Un"vedi c-astrology ? * HYPERLINK "http://docs. /info/terms/" ? _____ -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release 11/25/2005 -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release 11/25/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Only the chemical composition cannot be said to reflect the effect of a said gemstone. The other properties have to be taken into account. Why I was keen on Green Tourmaline and Peridot is because of their ability to put things in the right perspective. They stop reactionary mind and makes a person focus to a given task. These qualities are very similar to that of an Emerald. I will write in detail about the properties of these three gemstones and my experiences with them. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 11/26/05, Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote: Jaya Jagannatha ? Dear Bharat, Namaste ? These are the names I have retrieved from Garuòa Purana for Emerald substitute: ? Bhallataka ?which is a very close imitation of emerald in features, colour and quality but its colour fades and changes when air is blown over it. It can be Green Beryl from Brazil, whose colour is not stable. It loses its colour when it has been exposed to Air/Sun. The other one that loses its colour is Spodumene. Zambian and Nigerian Green Beryls are stable in colour. ? Putrika loses its brilliance when rubbed with a silken cloth. This can be either Apatite or Peridot. Apatite’s colour is greener (less of the y ellowish tinge) but both Apatite and Peridot are very soft stones. After wearing for about a year, you might as well throw away the Peridot. :-) Most Apatite workings are around the same mining area where Aquamarine (Beryl) is found. ? In Emerald mining areas, mostly green Tourmalines are found. I have also found something that maybe of interest for budding miners: That if your Tourmaline finds are very good, then the finds for the Aquamarine is mostly eroded. (Usually, these finds are close by). Vanadium is the compound that colours the blue beryl (aquamarine) green. (One can also find the same compound in green Chrysoberyl). ? I think we can safely conclude that, because Emerald comes from the Beryl family, the best substitute is the Green Beryl which is a fraction of the price of Emerald. ? Love, Swee ? _____ vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu Astrology Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:53 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Gem Stones-- Difference between Lab Created Gem Stone and Natural -- SWEE ? Namaskaar Sri Swee Presently, I do not know the Sanskrit names for Peridot and Tourmaline. One of the articles with me from GII, Mumbai states that Peridot is derived from the word "Faridat". This is said to be an arabic word which means "Gem". Tourmaline comes from the Sri Lankan Singhalese word "tura mali". Tura Mali means a gem of many colors. Tourmaline is actually found in many different colors. Some beautiful tourmalines are of mixed colors. If I come to know of their sanskrit names, I shall share it with you. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 11/25/05, Swee Chan <HYPERLINK "swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm" swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote: Jaya Jagannatha ? Dear Bharat, Namaste If you want ideal substitutes then, it is best to go in for semi precious gemstones. For example, instead of a Emerald use Peridot or a Green Tourmaline. Thanks and Regards Bharat Please give me the Sanskrit names for both Peridot and Green Tourmaline. ? 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