Asktaka Varga Calculations-Rasi Vs Bhava ?

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Courier">While reading few books on Ashtaka Varga, I have come accors few

authors opine that the Ashtaka Varga should be calculated from the Bhava chart

rather than the Rasi Chart. I would like to request you to take the following

example and guide me, whether it is a good idea to calculate Ashtkavarga from

Bhava chart is more meaningful or not?

ms"> Here I am not arguing and taking any one side of either Bhava Chart base

is better and Rasi chart based calculations are not correct, rather presenting

my thought and requesting you to clarify my doubt and guide me accordingly.

As we know, on an average every sign rises for about 2 hours. Let us take an

example to go over my doubt. Suppose Native "X" is born when the Lagna is in

1 deg of a sign and Native "Y" is born with a Lagna of 29 deg of the same sign.

We can see the time difference between these two native are about 1 hour and 50

min (approximately). So for these two natives, the lagna's and the planets

remain

in the same signs resulting the AsktakaVarga charts and calculations will be

same too. So the question comes to my mind is : will the events experienced

by Native X and Y be the same ? If not, then the AsktakaVarga calculated on the

basis of the Rashi Chart is not appropriate. Is it not ?

Courier">So may I request you to please throw some light on the above and guide

me so that my study will be in the right direction on this area of

AshtakaVarga. I know, many of us will be travelling during the thanks giving

holidays (including me), so keep the knowledge flowing in this thread, so that

when I come back next week, I will try to read the discussion and learn from

you all. Thanks for your help in clearing my doubt in advance. Regards

Raghunatha Rao

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Namaste Raghunath and others,

 

Just a couple of pointers -

 

(1) Ashtakavarga is not about houses from lagna. It is about houses from lagna

and houses from other seven other references.

 

Suppose lagna is at 29 deg in Vi and Jupiter is at 1 deg in Li. If you say that

Jupiter is not in the 2nd house but in the first house from lagna, it makes

sense to me. But what about other references?

 

Suppose lagna is at 15 deg in Vi and the first house falls entirely in Vi and

the second house falls entirely in Li. Suppose Sun is at 29 deg in Vi (i.e. in

the first house from lagna) and Jupiter is at 1 deg in Li (i.e. in the second

house from lagna). Will you then use the bhava chakra drawn from lagna and

count Jupiter to be in the second house from Sun or will you find a new bhava

chakra w.r.t. Sun's longitude again and say that Jupiter is in the first house

from Sun, because they are so close?

 

If you want to use bhava chakra instead of rasi chakra for ashtakavarga, the

above is a vital question. So far, everyone who attempted to use bhava chakra

for AV has done injustice to other references.

 

(2) If the reason for adopting bhava chakra is that lives of people born an hour

apart in the same rising sign are different, I don't see merit. It is entirely

conceivable that AV of D-1 is not sufficient to know one's fortune and we need

AVs of divisional charts or cross-AVs between rasi and divisions. Those will be

different.

 

(3) Sri CS Patel was the main proponent of ashtakavarga calculation from

chalita/bhava chakra. I believe his student, Sri RG Krishnan, also used bhava

chakra based ashtakavarga for several years. I believe he wrote some books too.

 

I met Sri RG Krishnan at Arsha Vidya Gurukulam in May 2005. He is a very nice,

spiritual and open-minded gentleman and I was so happy to meet him. He

confirmed to me that he now uses rasi based ashtakavarga and finds it better.

 

Still, if you are interested in using bhava chakra, you may do so. But think

logically and do it in a logical and coherent way. What Sri Patel did is

definitely questionable, for he found non-sign-aligned houses from lagna and

did not do so from other references.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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> Om Krishna Guru> > Namaste Gurus and Learned Members> > While

reading few books on Ashtaka Varga, I have come accors few authors opine that

the Ashtaka Varga should be calculated from the Bhava chart rather than the

Rasi Chart.> > I would like to request you to take the following example

and guide me, whether it is a good idea to calculate Ashtkavarga from Bhava

chart is more meaningful or not? > > Here I am not arguing and taking any

one side of either Bhava Chart base is better and Rasi chart based calculations

are not correct, rather presenting my thought and requesting you to clarify my

doubt and guide me accordingly.> > As we know, on an average every sign

rises for about 2 hours. Let us take an example to go over my doubt.> >

Suppose Native "X" is born when the Lagna is in 1 deg of a sign and Native "Y"

is born with a Lagna of 29 deg of the same sign. We can see the time difference

between these two native are about 1 hour and 50 min (approximately). > >

So for these two natives, the lagna's and the planets remain in the same signs

resulting the AsktakaVarga charts and calculations will be same too.> > So

the question comes to my mind is : will the events experienced by Native X and Y

be the same ? If not, then the AsktakaVarga calculated on the basis of the Rashi

Chart is not appropriate. Is it not ?> > So may I request you to please

throw some light on the above and guide me so that my study will be in the

right direction on this area of AshtakaVarga.> > I know, many of us will

be travelling during the thanks giving holidays (including me), so keep the

knowledge flowing in this thread, so that when I come back next week, I will

try to read the discussion and learn from you all.> > Thanks for your help

in clearing my doubt in advance.> > Regards> Raghunatha Rao