11 Points for Shri Narasimha on Vargas -Summary of Discussion/Shri Bharat

November 21, 2005

Namaskar Shri Bharat

Thanks for your wishes.

Rashi is the body.It becomes the 12 limbs.It becomes the 12 bhavas.How

a graha or lagna is interacting with a rashi(which in turn becomes a

bhava)is understood through vargas.Each Varga from Kshethra onwards

interacts through varying frequencies(harmonics).The unseen light or

subtle nature that you are pointing to is ofcourse understood through

vargas.But we should not forget that finer analysis of sun light is a

function of sun.The study of venus navamsha is a finer study of the

same Venus.Thus enities Venus ,Sun etc can be studied only when they

have a form.Vargas helps us to understand finer aspects of these forms

,they do not become another entity.Navamsha Lagna is not another

head.It shows a particular influence on our head.Lagna bhava is only

one.Through Vargas we see the influences on lagna.This is the view

that classical texts are providing.

Subtle body can resides within a Gross Body.Rashi is the structure.

You can have a change in thought only if you are prepared to accept

classical definition of vargas.Rashi chakra is not D-1.Please forget

it for the sake of astrology.First Varga as per parashara is division

of any individual Rashi.

Thanks

Pradeep

ology, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology@g...> wrote:

>

> Namaskaar Sri Pradeep

>

> We are clear about Rashi-Navamsa combination and its importance.

There is no

> doubt here.

>

> Let's see if Navamsa has a separate existence or not. In my view - there

> exists a logical possibility of its existence. The reason is that

Navamsa

> (or other divisional charts) is not an effect of Rashi. It is a subtler

> dimension of Rashi chart. This means two things:

>

> 1. It has the ability to modify the results of the Rashi chart. Subtler

> changes the gross and not otherwise.

> 2. It shows some information about the subtle dimensions of the

individuals

> that are not known through the Rashi chart. I have already given my

views on

> what can be known and not known.

>

> Sri Pradeep, let me share something more with you. The position of

planet as

> we see it is because our eyes can receive light of a particular

frequency.

> Supposing our eyes could see light at a different frequency, it

would see a

> different world. Higher harmonics (as you call them) are harmonics

of light

> frequency not seen through the eyes with its limited frequency.

>

> Physical body takes birth but it is the subtle body which takes up

the new

> body. It is the subtle body which is alive and shifts from one body to

> another. By analyzing the Rashi chart, what is known about the

subtle body.

> Why did it take this physical body?

>

> Sri Pradeep, I am not discussing classics as many of them have been

lost and

> many lines have hidden information in them, which we are yet to

understand.

> But we have logic and openness with us to understand something that

may not

> be explicitly stated.

>

> Astrology has to answer the above questions and I believe that it can be

> answered through usage of Divisional independent charts. In saying

so, I am

> not saying that the way Sri Sanjay Rath or Sri Narasimha are using

them, is

> the correct way. All I am saying is, rejecting them outright is an

option

> that I cannot exercise in view of the above unanswered questions.

>

> If we were to put our energies together and exert into these dimensions,

> probably we can understand something more. I do not care if it is called

> Pradeep's theory of Dimensions or Sri Rath's theory of divisionals or

> Bharat's madness. Whether people call it new theory or old, supported or

> unsupported by classics, it is immaterial.

>

> If we can have a Ramana Maharishi for understanding the Self in the 20th

> century, why can't we have a Ramana Maharishi for Astrology for

giving new

> light to the Jyotish? Why do we consider modern scholars so

backward? I know

> we run the risk of everyone making claims to new theories but so what,

> choose what works.

>

> I hope you have a good trip in India. If in Delhi, please let me

know and we

> can meet.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

On 11/9/05, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Shri Bharat

> >

> > Aspects need not be Grahadrishti alone.

> > Navamshas are ninth harmonic influences,which are similar to 40 degree

> > aspects.It takes 40 degrees to make one round.

> > Dreakkanas take 120 degrees,and hence Drekkana lords are always trinal

> > lords (1,5,9).

> > Similarly all vargas are harmonic influences showing a particular

kind of

> > aspect.Kshethra shows the first harmonic aspect or Yuti.

> >

> > I have no dispute regarding the importance of navamsha or the

philosophy

> > behind.Dispute is only regarding analysis.They do not have an

existence in

> > isolation.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Pradeep

> >

> > vedic astrology, Bharat Hindu Astrology <

> > hinduastrology@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaskaar Sri Pradeep

> > >

> > > It is an assumption that Navamsa is an aspect. I consider

Navamsa as a

> > 108

> > > division of 360 degree chakra. It is like doing nine rounds (for

> > navamsa)

> > > instead of 1. The frequency when increased, is not an aspect but

gives a

> > > different dimension of a personality. Perhaps that is why there

is an

> > > emergent differences in the views here.

> > >

> > > Subtler matters will be represented by higher frequency

dimensions. To

> > > consider it an aspect would be an assumption and the results

thus gained

> > > would be limited by the assumption.

> > >

> > > I understand the Sattva, Rajas and Tamas guna being modified by the

> > Navamsa

> > > (through Nakshatra lordships), and hence a modification in the

results

> > shown

> > > in the Rasi. Your application is perfect but there is a

possibility that

> > > your application is limited. What emerges out of taking Navamsa as a

> > > separate chart is the inner dharma conflicts which cannot be seen in

> > Rashi

> > > chart. What makes a person choose one field of activity when one is

> > > interested in another? How a person guards his values? What

values are

> > > emerging from his navamsa?

> > >

> > > What I am saying is - root is divisional chart and effect is Rashi

> > chart.

> > > Root modifies the effect. If we study the root only, we get

something

> > more -

> > > Like what could have been but did not happen. In my view, if we

are not

> > open

> > > to this possibility we are letting go of an opportunity to

understand

> > > Astrology in deeper terms.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > > On 11/7/05, vijayadas_pradeep vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear shri Bharat Namsate

> > > >

> > > > Your questions are really good.Your understanding on aspects are

> > > > very true.

> > > >

> > > > Now there are two points - a)What is an aspect,b)How the aspect is

> > > > effected.

> > > >

> > > > Answer for point (a) has been given by you.Now your next question.

> > > >

> > > > >>>What does graha dristi perform that an aspect cannot? In

what way

> > > > does this differentiation occur?The answer for this falls

under part

> > > > b.

> > > >

> > > > Grahadrishti is also an aspect and thus no difference.But

there are

> > > > aspects other than grahadrishti - for example a)relation between a

> > > > sign and its lord.b)Relation betwen a navamsha sector and its

> > > > sign.Thus grahadrishti alone is not sufficient to understand

all the

> > > > aspects.

> > > >

> > > > Now my point is when navamsha itself is pointing to an aspect,how

> > > > can you again see aspects from such an aspectual pattern.Hope you

> > > > have understood what i am talking.(The positions that we are

seeing

> > > > in navamsha are infact representation of aspects).

> > > >

> > > > What we see in Rashi chakra is the planetary arrangement at

> > > > birth.Kshethra shows one kind of frequency and influence between a

> > > > planet/planet or planet/sign.Navamsha shows influence of another

> > > > frequency.But they are all functions of the same planets having a

> > > > fixed disposition at the time of birth.It is not an independent

> > > > position.Why?We have derived them from the original rashi

> > > > position.Rashi chakra is whole, and Kshethra/Navamsha are

> > > > parts.Rashi chakra has bhavas,kshethra/navamsha does

> > > > not.Grahadrishti is purely dependent on the longitudinal

> > > > disposition.Kshethra/Navamsha represents different kinds of

> > > > influences based on the above said disposition.(This is the

> > > > catch).The disposition remains the same and infleunecs are derived

> > > > from them.You cannot find an aspect again in influential

> > > > groupings,which they themselves are!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > Individual A is uneducated.He is influenced by a criminal and he

> > > > turns into a criminal.Now if he was infleunced by a holy man,there

> > > > would had been a difference.So is the above case - The planets and

> > > > its roles remains the same.The influences modifies the general.

> > > >

> > > > If we read any shloka on vargas ,the meaning conveyed is as

above.I

> > > > had given classical quotes relating 7th bhava and then

navamsha of a

> > > > benefic planet.A different understanding ''Vargacharts'' is

> > > > happening only as part of subjective interpretations.

> > > >

> > > > Anykosha is not hanging or attached to ''nothing''.They are

part of

> > > > something.Thus Holistic analysis will only lead towards

truth.How do

> > > > you study a modified or transfomed space without understanding its

> > > > realationship with the original.Did we transform out of

nothing.Your

> > > > kind self may think again.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, Bharat Hindu Astrology

> > > > hinduastrology@g... wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskaar Sri Pradeep

> > > > >

> > > > > An aspect is a modification/interference/change/relation to the

> > > > house or its

> > > > > lord and therefore to the results. What does graha dristi

perform

> > > > that an

> > > > > aspect cannot? In what way does this differentiation occur? If

> > > > light

> > > > > (energy) meets me directly or through reflection, what are the

> > > > differences

> > > > > in the effects? Have we done a study of the same?

> > > > >

> > > > > I am in a questioning mode and this mode is applicable to myself

> > > > as much as

> > > > > to yourself. I hope you do not mind my asking so many

questions. I

> > > > am doing

> > > > > loud thinking.

> > > > >

> > > > > As I said in my last email, I do not have a classical quote

to go

> > > > on. That

> > > > > is the reason why I said "there are chances that the divisionals

> > > > have a

> > > > > relation to the Panchkosas". I am not sure but there is a

distinct

> > > > > possibility. The reason for my thinking is as follows:

> > > > >

> > > > > The non-understanding of the reality brings about a mis-

> > > > understanding of the

> > > > > Reality. The non-understanding is Ignorance and is

represented by

> > > > > Anandmayakosha. The mis-understanding is represented by the

other

> > > > 4 koshas.

> > > > > A birth chart represents the taking up of a new body. Why

this new

> > > > body was

> > > > > taken up - for what desire fulfillment? for what purpose?

what was

> > > > the

> > > > > thoughts and emotions that needed fructification? What desires

> > > > conflict with

> > > > > each other such as not to fructify? etc. ... These questions

need

> > > > to be

> > > > > answered by Astrology and they will be if we keep an open mind

> > > > (knowledge

> > > > > finds the seeker and not the opposite). Therefore, I see a

distinct

> > > > > possibility of a relation between the panch kosas and the

> > > > divisionals.

> > > > >

> > > > > I wish we had a Sankara Bhashya for Jyotish too, but that is a

> > > > crutch we

> > > > > cannot look for now.

> > > > >

> > > > > Your point that how two planets sitting together in one Rashi in

> > > > the Rashi

> > > > > chart, cast graha drishti in the Navamsa or other

divisionals, is

> > > > well

> > > > > understood by me. But I still question it. Why can't they? I may

> > > > have a

> > > > > dharma-adharma conflict within me (Navamsa) but that does not

> > > > manifest into

> > > > > Action (Rashi chart).

> > > > >

> > > > > I keep myself open... and I really appreciate this

discussion that

> > > > has

> > > > > brought the finest minds here into its fold.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > Bharat

> > > > >

> > > > > On 11/7/05, vijayadas_pradeep vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Shri Bharat

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for the mail.We are all learning together through

> > > > questions and

> > > > > > doubts.

> > > > > > Navamsha charts that we are deriving are infact representing

> > > > > > aspects(harmonic influences are aspects of varying degrees).

> > > > > > This is the basic understanding of harmonics.To put graha

> > > > drishti over

> > > > > > this is not perfect.

> > > > > > We cannot violate the rules set by sage regarding aspects.

> > > > > > Late shri Santhanam while translating BPHS had definitely

> > > > undertood

> > > > > > the rules for aspect.This rule is very clear.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nava-Navamsha is just the navamsha of navamsha- another ninth

> > > > harmonic

> > > > > > of navamsha.It can just go on like this.

> > > > > > One can use navamsha as a chart if one can understand the

> > > > interlinkage.

> > > > > > But when one understands this, he will not see them in

isolation.

> > > > > > Planets that we see from varga lagnas,are harmonic

influences on

> > > > the

> > > > > > said signs.

> > > > > > But the placements from varga lagnas in Rashi chakra are Yuti

> > > > with the

> > > > > > sign.

> > > > > > Only through a Holistic approach we can study the subtilities

> > > > and that

> > > > > > too in realtion with the sthoola or clear planetary positions.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regarding your Kosha grouping - i have no idea.It need not

stop

> > > > at

> > > > > > Shashtyamsha.There are higher divisions as per nadi.Then

why are

> > > > we

> > > > > > stopping at shashtyamsha!!!.If we have a classical quote

it has a

> > > > > > pramana to lean on.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, Bharat Hindu Astrology

> > > > > > hinduastrology@g... wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Pradeep and Sri Narasimha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let us say a graha is at 300 degrees in a zodiac

starting from

> > > > 0 degrees

> > > > > > > Aries. This would be in a particular nakshatra and a

> > > > particular sign

> > > > > > as per

> > > > > > > 12 part division. Suppose I divide the same space into 108

> > > > parts and

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > ownership of each of the parts to the 12 signs, then, you

> > > > would find

> > > > > > subtler

> > > > > > > interlinkages. Nadi Interlinkages and aspects are of the

same

> > > > nature. In

> > > > > > > such a case, there can be aspects in Navamsha and other

> > > > divisions.

> > > > > > It is my

> > > > > > > view that aspects in Navamsa, etc. exist. In my view,

there are

> > > > > > chances that

> > > > > > > the D1-D12, D13-D24, D25-36, D37-48, D-49-D60 are related to

> > > > the

> > > > > > Panchkosas

> > > > > > > (Annamaya, Pranamaya, Manomaya, Vjnanamaya and Anandamaya).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If it is so, then, a division with its interrelationship

with

> > > > Rashi

> > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > will represent the causes of the effects as seen in the

Rashi

> > > > chart. In

> > > > > > > other words, Navamsha and its relation with Rashi will

show the

> > > > > > > adharma-dharma and its understanding by the individual that

> > > > relates to

> > > > > > > actions, events as shown by the Rashi.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now, if Navamsa is seen as a chart by itself, then, it would

> > > > give the

> > > > > > > understanding or relevance of Dharma for such an individual.

> > > > It will

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > show the Field of activity that may be most suitable for an

> > > > > > individual to

> > > > > > > understand Dharma.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > These are purely my thoughts and I am not taking any

help from

> > > > the

> > > > > > classics.

> > > > > > > In my view, Astrology has to show causal interlinkages which

> > > > is not

> > > > > > seen by

> > > > > > > the individual. Therefore, from the D-60 we get the pool of

> > > > > > anandamayakosha

> > > > > > > and we can check its manifestation at the level of our

values,

> > > > mind, and

> > > > > > > pranas through these charts. The grosser manifestations that

> > > > appear

> > > > > > to us as

> > > > > > > powerful thoughts, emotions and values can be seen from

D1-D12

> > > > charts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Having said the above, I know I may be quite wrong but I

see a

> > > > distinct

> > > > > > > possibility here.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > Bharat

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 11/4/05, vijayadas_pradeep vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Narasimha ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Summary of my understanding and points discussed so far.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1)Graha Drishti - Except for shadbala calculations, we

> > > > generally go

> > > > > > > > by house wise aspects(approximation of longitudinal

> > > > aspect).For

> > > > > > > > shadbala, we go by exact longitude and quantify.It is a

> > > > known fact

> > > > > > > > that for Bhava Phala Niroopana,aspects are used based on

> > > > houses.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2)If a planet is aspecting a house without any placement -

> > > > We can

> > > > > > > > only find the Drishti Kendra ie the point of maximum

> > > > influence.Mars

> > > > > > > > aspecting Libra sign is a perfect example.This aspect of

> > > > Mars is

> > > > > > > > based on longitudinal dispositions of the sign in

which Mars

> > > > is

> > > > > > > > placed as well as the aspected Sign.These are

> > > > recorded/measured in

> > > > > > > > terms of degrees - multiples of 30 degree signs.Please do

> > > > not mix

> > > > > > > > Navamsha,Dashamsha etc with this.Mars is aspecting the

sign

> > > > Libra

> > > > > > > > which inturn is assuming roles of

> > > > Navamsha,Dashamasha,Kshethra etc.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3)A planet has a single position and hence a single

> > > > longitude at a

> > > > > > > > point in time.Based on this position it has numerous

> > > > > > > > influences.These infleunces are understood through

> > > > Vargas.Pls don't

> > > > > > > > confuse this with Grahadrishti mentioned above.There is

> > > > > > > > no ''further'' longitude needed to understand this

sambandha.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 4)For example Varga Bala is not calculated based on

> > > > longitudes.It is

> > > > > > > > based on Planet/Rashi sambandha.Each harmonic

sambandha has a

> > > > > > > > specific purpose(eg Navamsha for spouse).When we

relate this

> > > > with

> > > > > > > > the relevant bhava in Rashi chakra,picture becomes clear.I

> > > > had given

> > > > > > > > classical references.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 5)Drigbala(Aspectual strenght) is calculated based on

> > > > > > > > longitude,while Varga/Planet relationships are harmonic

> > > > influences.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 6)Kshethra placement shows conjunction.This means a planet

> > > > placed in

> > > > > > > > a sign is conjunct that sign.Navamsha shows ninth harmonic

> > > > > > > > influence.It means a particular planet from its place of

> > > > occupation

> > > > > > > > has a harmonic relationship with another sign.In both the

> > > > cases the

> > > > > > > > influence is on the sign and not on any specific

> > > > longitude.Longitude

> > > > > > > > is a qualification for the planet and not amshas.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 7)For example, assume that planet Venus is placed at 27

> > > > degrees in

> > > > > > > > Pisces.This is the only placement it has in Zodiac.Now

sage

> > > > has

> > > > > > > > defined Zodiac as having 12 signs.3 degrees forward

from 27

> > > > dgrees

> > > > > > > > in Pisces and 27 degrees backward from 27 degrees in

Pisces

> > > > is the

> > > > > > > > Kshethra in which Venus is placed.This is the first

Varga or

> > > > first

> > > > > > > > harmonic influence.In other words Venus is treated as

> > > > conjuncting

> > > > > > > > the sign Pisces.The whole 30 degree sector is having 1

to 1

> > > > > > > > relationship with Pisces.In other words

> > > > > > > > it is the first division.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 8)20 minutes backward from 27 degrees in pisces and 3

degrees

> > > > > > > > forward from 27 degrees in pisces constitutes the navamsha

> > > > division

> > > > > > > > in which Venus is placed.Parashara defined this sector

> > > > within Pisces

> > > > > > > > as Pisces Navamsha(no further degrees).This 3.2 degree

> > > > sector is

> > > > > > > > thus having a harmonic influence with Pisces.Vargottama

> > > > Navamsha.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 9)Difference between Point 7 and point 8 is - In point

7 it

> > > > was a 1

> > > > > > > > to 1 or first harmonic sambandha while in point 8 it is a

> > > > ninth

> > > > > > > > harmonic sambandha.This is the very purpose of harmonics.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 10)When two planets are conjunct in a sign acting as

> > > > Navamsha - it

> > > > > > > > is infact showing the sambandha those planets are having

> > > > with that

> > > > > > > > particular sign.To find aspects above that can only be

some

> > > > kind of

> > > > > > > > poetical imagination and has no rational at all(Cannot be

> > > > reconciled

> > > > > > > > with Parasharas aspectual rules).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 11)If you are trying to bring furhter degrees - It is

> > > > nothing but

> > > > > > > > MOVEMENT from one NAVAMSHA to another NAVAMSHA.This

has not

> > > > been

> > > > > > > > sanctioned by Sage and please don't make any such

> > > > assumptions.This

> > > > > > > > will create further problems similar to ''TWO ZODIACS

> > > > concept''.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I honestly beleive your good self will take the right

step.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > >

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