Kala-Sarpa Yoga -- Robert Koch

November 14, 2005

Dear Robert,

I have an example chart which has KAY with both Maha-Shankha and Maha-Padma

yogas. In his early years, the native had lots of dreams where snakes were

hanging from the trees. He hears voices from the unknown( or beyond). He also

sees some visions repeatedly and that makes him nauseous. Another fact about

him is that he is very social. Currently he is 22 years old and a college

student. I am attaching his chart and his birth details are:

November 7, 1983 Time: 1:36:00 AM Time Zone: 6:00:00

(West of GMT) Place: 87 W 39, 41 N 51 Chicago, IL, USA

Thanks,

Devika.Robert Koch <rk (AT) robertkoch (DOT) com> wrote:

Om Gurave Namah~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Dear Rizwan, Namaste - When the planets are

between Ketu and Rahu, and thus moving toward Rahu, the yoga is called

Kala-Sarpa. On the other hand, when the grahas move from Rahu to Ketu, the

yoga goes by the name Kala-Amrta. Naturally one would expect the former one to

bring more of an unstable karmic experience into the life than the latter, yet

the Kala-Amrta yoga will bring these kinds of influences and experiences as

well. The difference may be understand simply by bearing in mind the

difference in effect between Rahu and Ketu. The mere suggestion that all the

planets are moving toward Ketu, for example, may suggest a path in life wherein

the Atma becomes disinterested in the mundane world thus inclining the him

strongly toward Moksa. If the grahas are moving toward Rahu, then it may be

that the person

has to experience crisis at intervals and the shocking realization that

everything can and will be taken away from him at a moment's notice. This

could especially happen at the age when Rahu is said to mature, which is 42, or

at the maturation age of Ketu which is 48. Naturally the Vimsottari dasa

periods of either node will intensify the experience, and the native may have

to experience the trial of fire during such times. Variations on the areas

of experience should be studied by noting which houses the Rahu/Ketu axis falls

in. For example, if in the 1/7 axis, marriage becomes the arena of karmic

trial; if the 4/10 axis, position and career become a central focus; or if the

6/12 axis is emphasized, then hardships, enmity, or disease lead the soul to

pursue the spiritual life. There are conditions which are said to break the

Kala-Sarpa or Kala-Amrta yoga, and this can be found in the writings of some

modern

authors. (I don't believe Parasara or authors of other classics discuss this

yoga, however). If the lagna is between the Rahu/Ketu axis, then there is

cancellation of the yoga. In the opinion of the late B.V. Raman, however, the

yoga will be intensified if the lagna is between Ketu and Rahu. Further, if

only one planet joins either node, then the yoga is said to be dissolved. If

Kala-Amrta forms in a horoscope, two kinds of auspicious yogas are further

generated if either of the Moon or Jupiter, or both, conjoins Ketu. The former

is called Maha-Shankha yoga, whereas the latter goes by the name Maha-Padma

yoga. These formations confer blessings on the native in addition to the

effects of Raja-yoga to fructify in the 44th and 45th years of life

respectively. In your chart, the Moon joins Ketu, yet the Kala-Sarpa yoga

forms instead, with all the planets moving toward Rahu. So, I am not sure if

the

Maha-Shankha yoga forms in this case. At least it may be said that the presence

of the Moon with Ketu will nullify the expected evil of the KSY. There are many

examples wherein KSY elevates the native to very high levels of achievement,

fame, and success. These will be found in charts wherein (1) the yoga falls in

a kendra axis (1/7 or 5/10); and (2) where there is a Raja-yoga forming in a

kendra between the axis. The best example of this that comes to mind is the

late Johnny Carson, one of the greatest entertainers of all time:

Johnny Carson

Natal Chart October 23, 1925 Time: 7:15:00 Time Zone:

6:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 94 W 44' 26", 40 N 59' 24" Corning, Iowa,

USAThis chart is powerful in that the Kala-Amrta yoga forms between the 10th

and 4th houses, with the lagna falling within the axis. According to B.V.

Raman above, this breaks the evil effects of the yoga. Now, given the presence

of a strong Raja and Neecha-bhanga Raja-yoga forming in the lagna, it appears

that the KA yoga was instrumental in lifting the native to unimaginable heights

of fame which would not likely be attained had the Kala-Amrta yoga not formed,

or if it were not involved. Where the results fall in the area of TV and

broadcasting can be found by way of the AMK Jupiter joining 10th lord Moon to

form Raja-yoga also in the 3rd house of the chart, and directly in the Arudha

lagna. Further example charts could help our understanding of how these yogas

play out in actual experience. I hope this helps! Best wishes,RobertAt 08:35

AM 11/12/2005, you wrote:

hello to all respected gurus i wanted to clear my doubt about kal sapra yog , as

basically it is yog from rahu to ketu but some astrolgers also belive that this

yog is also formed if it formed from ketu to rahu so i want all gurus share

their khowledge about this topic for case i give u detaildate of birth of =28

june 1978location = morocco (meknes)time =15:40 so plz share your

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November 14, 2005

hi,could you all gurus analyse my horoscope for kaal sarpdosh and analyse it for

mars and rahu dasha...someone told me that it can be bad for my career and

brother,if so plz tell me the remedies.

dob-3rd sep,1977place-srinagar,jammu and kashmirtime:3:54 am (night)Devika

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