Guest guest Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 Om Vishnave Namah ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear Paul, Thank you for your kind words. It is always my pleasure to help whenever possible. You gave your daughter's birth data as 12/3/2000. Knowing that you are from the UK, is this Dec. 3, or March 12, 2000? I'd like to have a look at Tara's chart with respect to the questions you've raised. So far as remedial measures for Kala-Sarpa yoga are concerned, I would say that the yoga is complex in its karmic underpinnings, and so there is no easy way out of the challenges that may come as a result of it. A question arises here: Should we always try remedial measures to circumvent whatever is uncomfortable in life, or are such challenges part of a process that leads to the soul's growth in consciousness? Certainly, however, we would not stand by and watch a loved one suffer if we could do anything about it. Often, however, one suffers anyway as a result of dasa periods or KSY in operation, regardless of the propitiation of Deities, wearing of gems, etc. Anyway, in my humble opinion - and this is based on the teachings of my guru in the parampara of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the recitation of the Shodaksari maha-mantra is the most potent form of remedial measure to all kinds of afflictions in Kali-yuga, for all persons, from all walks of life worldwide. Again, I repeat it as follows: Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare Someone might argue that insistence on the recitation of the Maha-mantra, above other Upayes, represents a religious bias. This is not the case, in as much as the supreme Deity Vishnu or Shiva are really neither Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Jewish Gods, no more than the Sun rising on someone's household or village is Hindu, Christian, etc.! This is the reason why persons from any kind of background benefit greatly from its recitation, and there are no special criteria either, such as having Diksa initiation, performing purificatory rites, etc. A shortened for of the Maha-mantra is routinely recited by members of SJC, and it is the Janaka Shad-aksari mantra, as follows: Hare Rama Krsna So, please clarify your daughters data, and we shall have a good look at her chart. Best wishes, Robert At 08:50 AM 11/13/2005, you wrote: Dear Group, Very clear and beautifully witten article on KSY, thank you Robert. My daughter (age 5 ) has KSY in her chart. I beleive she will have some fame at some point, exalted moon is on the mc, which is also the AL. There is also a strong Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga to Saturn. However I would like to be able to do soem remedies etc. Could you please advice the remedies for KSY. My daughter enters Rahu Vimshottari soonish! I am aware of the 1L in 7H, but still find Vimshottari works as well (I should use Dwisaptati Sama Dasa in my chart, but I cant relate to it very well. Also in this chart would a Ruby or a Sapphire (yellow) be better, bearing in mind that Mars is in the 8h (Parivartana Yoga). Also gems are not suitable for children (they may lose them, or give them away at school!) so can ordianry planetary pujas be formed? And at what age? Any help here appreciated, Tara 12/3/2000 17:36:50 Barnet, England Thanks Sincerely, Paul Jenkins ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM --~-> Archives: vedic astrology Group info: vedic astrology/info.html To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || <*> vedic astrology/ <*> vedic astrology <*> Your ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer Faculty member, SJC and ACVA Author, The Spiritual Dimensions of Vedic Astrology visit: http://www.robertkoch.com Email: rk (AT) robertkoch (DOT) com Ph: 541.318.0248 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 Respected Sir, I had raised a question about my sister's horoscope sometime back but did not receive any response. I have been told she is inflicted by Kal Sarpa Yoga as well - but from your article it appears it might be Kal-Amrta Yoga. I was wondering if you could provide assistance by studying her chart and elaborating on marriage prospects and future. She has had a very trouble inflicted life all along....and we hope to do something to help. Her birth data is as follows: Date 23.10.1983 Time 16:20p.m. Place New Delhi, India Your assistance would be humbly appreciated. Thank you. Dhwani vedic astrology, Robert Koch <rk@r...> wrote: > > Om Vishnave Namah > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Dear Paul, > > Thank you for your kind words. It is always my pleasure to help > whenever possible. > > You gave your daughter's birth data as 12/3/2000. Knowing that you > are from the UK, is this Dec. 3, or March 12, 2000? I'd like to have > a look at Tara's chart with respect to the questions you've raised. > > So far as remedial measures for Kala-Sarpa yoga are concerned, I > would say that the yoga is complex in its karmic underpinnings, and > so there is no easy way out of the challenges that may come as a > result of it. > > A question arises here: Should we always try remedial measures to > circumvent whatever is uncomfortable in life, or are such challenges > part of a process that leads to the soul's growth in > consciousness? Certainly, however, we would not stand by and watch a > loved one suffer if we could do anything about it. Often, however, > one suffers anyway as a result of dasa periods or KSY in operation, > regardless of the propitiation of Deities, wearing of gems, etc. > > Anyway, in my humble opinion - and this is based on the teachings of > my guru in the parampara of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the recitation > of the Shodaksari maha-mantra is the most potent form of remedial > measure to all kinds of afflictions in Kali-yuga, for all persons, > from all walks of life worldwide. Again, I repeat it as follows: > > Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare > Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare > > Someone might argue that insistence on the recitation of the > Maha-mantra, above other Upayes, represents a religious bias. This > is not the case, in as much as the supreme Deity Vishnu or Shiva are > really neither Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Jewish Gods, no more than > the Sun rising on someone's household or village is Hindu, Christian, > etc.! This is the reason why persons from any kind of background > benefit greatly from its recitation, and there are no special > criteria either, such as having Diksa initiation, performing > purificatory rites, etc. > > A shortened for of the Maha-mantra is routinely recited by members of > SJC, and it is the Janaka Shad-aksari mantra, as follows: > > Hare Rama Krsna > > So, please clarify your daughters data, and we shall have a good look > at her chart. > > Best wishes, > Robert > > At 08:50 AM 11/13/2005, you wrote: > >Dear Group, > > > >Very clear and beautifully witten article on KSY, thank you Robert. > >My daughter (age 5 ) has KSY in her chart. I beleive she will have > >some fame at some point, exalted moon is on the mc, which is also > >the AL. There is also a strong Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga to Saturn. > > > >However I would like to be able to do soem remedies etc. Could you > >please advice the remedies for KSY. My daughter enters Rahu > >Vimshottari soonish! I am aware of the 1L in 7H, but still find > >Vimshottari works as well (I should use Dwisaptati Sama Dasa in my > >chart, but I cant relate to it very well. > > > >Also in this chart would a Ruby or a Sapphire (yellow) be better, > >bearing in mind that Mars is in the 8h (Parivartana Yoga). > > > >Also gems are not suitable for children (they may lose them, or give > >them away at school!) so can ordianry planetary pujas be formed? > >And at what age? > > > >Any help here appreciated, > > > >Tara 12/3/2000 > >17:36:50 Barnet, England > > > >Thanks > > > >Sincerely, > > > >Paul Jenkins > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer > Faculty member, SJC and ACVA > Author, The Spiritual Dimensions of Vedic Astrology > visit: http://www.robertkoch.com > Email: rk@r... > Ph: 541.318.0248 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Dear Dhwani, I am sorry to hear that your sister has had these kinds of challenges in life. Life presents a struggle for all of us, yet some among us have a hard time of it due to karmas. Anyway, I've had a chance to look at your sister's chart. These are my opinions: 1. There is no Kala-Amrta yoga in her chart, as the Moon is outside the axis. The Moon - which, incidentally, also happens to be her Atmakaraka - should be propitiated always. I will come to the Deities for propitiation shortly. 2. The 7th lord's position in the 8th house with two malefics, while 8th lord joins the 6th with a third malefic, is a troublesome yoga for marriage indeed. However, the Moon is very important here, as from the Moon's position (Chandra lagna), the same planets form strong yogas with respect to the 5th and 7th houses. This gives encouragement that she can break the cycle of misfortune thus far experienced, and can be married, especially now that the D-1 Narayana dasa of Libra has started as of Oct. 23, 2005. It is a ten year dasa, and so given that she just started it, I believe a turn in a more positive direction is eminent. 3. It so happens that the Darakaraka in this chart is 7th lord Mercury, while Mercury is also the Ishta-devata. This is very significant, in that the struggles and trials which normally accompany the Ishta-devata's purging or cleansing of the native, happens specifically in the arena of marriage. Now, this does not mean that she will have only troubles in marriage. However, it does show that there is a spiritual lesson associated with the karmic experience of difficulty getting married first of all, and that somehow this experience leads the native back to the Ishta-devata ultimately. 4. Given that the Moon is the AK (Krsna), and Mercury (Vishnu) is the Ishta-devata, she would do well to do services at a Vishnu or Radha-Krsna temple and worship the forms of the Deity. Prayers to or the recitation of mantras to the Goddess Laksmi would also be highly beneficial in her case. Having thus pleased Lakshmi-devi, the goddess may bless her with fulfillment of the desire for marriage. 5. Finally, Saturn's conjunction with the lord of Upapada lagna (again Mercury) delays marriage, yet does not deny it. Since the D-1 Narayana dasa is of Libra, its trinal relationship with the UL suggests the time period for marriage, while the Bhoga rasi falls directly in the 7th from UL. See if she can do the remedial measures as above, and I think that she will see blessings flow in due course. Best wishes, Robert At 07:17 PM 11/13/2005, you wrote: Respected Sir, I had raised a question about my sister's horoscope sometime back but did not receive any response. I have been told she is inflicted by Kal Sarpa Yoga as well - but from your article it appears it might be Kal-Amrta Yoga. I was wondering if you could provide assistance by studying her chart and elaborating on marriage prospects and future. She has had a very trouble inflicted life all along....and we hope to do something to help. Her birth data is as follows: Date 23.10.1983 Time 16:20p.m. Place New Delhi, India Your assistance would be humbly appreciated. Thank you. Dhwani vedic astrology, Robert Koch <rk@r...> wrote: > > Om Vishnave Namah > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Dear Paul, > > Thank you for your kind words. It is always my pleasure to help > whenever possible. > > You gave your daughter's birth data as 12/3/2000. Knowing that you > are from the UK, is this Dec. 3, or March 12, 2000? I'd like to have > a look at Tara's chart with respect to the questions you've raised. > > So far as remedial measures for Kala-Sarpa yoga are concerned, I > would say that the yoga is complex in its karmic underpinnings, and > so there is no easy way out of the challenges that may come as a > result of it. > > A question arises here: Should we always try remedial measures to > circumvent whatever is uncomfortable in life, or are such challenges > part of a process that leads to the soul's growth in > consciousness? Certainly, however, we would not stand by and watch a > loved one suffer if we could do anything about it. Often, however, > one suffers anyway as a result of dasa periods or KSY in operation, > regardless of the propitiation of Deities, wearing of gems, etc. > > Anyway, in my humble opinion - and this is based on the teachings of > my guru in the parampara of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the recitation > of the Shodaksari maha-mantra is the most potent form of remedial > measure to all kinds of afflictions in Kali-yuga, for all persons, > from all walks of life worldwide. Again, I repeat it as follows: > > Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare > Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare > > Someone might argue that insistence on the recitation of the > Maha-mantra, above other Upayes, represents a religious bias. This > is not the case, in as much as the supreme Deity Vishnu or Shiva are > really neither Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Jewish Gods, no more than > the Sun rising on someone's household or village is Hindu, Christian, > etc.! This is the reason why persons from any kind of background > benefit greatly from its recitation, and there are no special > criteria either, such as having Diksa initiation, performing > purificatory rites, etc. > > A shortened for of the Maha-mantra is routinely recited by members of > SJC, and it is the Janaka Shad-aksari mantra, as follows: > > Hare Rama Krsna > > So, please clarify your daughters data, and we shall have a good look > at her chart. > > Best wishes, > Robert > > At 08:50 AM 11/13/2005, you wrote: > >Dear Group, > > > >Very clear and beautifully witten article on KSY, thank you Robert. > >My daughter (age 5 ) has KSY in her chart. I beleive she will have > >some fame at some point, exalted moon is on the mc, which is also > >the AL. There is also a strong Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga to Saturn. > > > >However I would like to be able to do soem remedies etc. Could you > >please advice the remedies for KSY. My daughter enters Rahu > >Vimshottari soonish! I am aware of the 1L in 7H, but still find > >Vimshottari works as well (I should use Dwisaptati Sama Dasa in my > >chart, but I cant relate to it very well. > > > >Also in this chart would a Ruby or a Sapphire (yellow) be better, > >bearing in mind that Mars is in the 8h (Parivartana Yoga). > > > >Also gems are not suitable for children (they may lose them, or give > >them away at school!) so can ordianry planetary pujas be formed? > >And at what age? > > > >Any help here appreciated, > > > >Tara 12/3/2000 > >17:36:50 Barnet, England > > > >Thanks > > > >Sincerely, > > > >Paul Jenkins > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Archives: vedic astrology > > > >Group info: vedic astrology/info.html > > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer > Faculty member, SJC and ACVA > Author, The Spiritual Dimensions of Vedic Astrology > visit: http://www.robertkoch.com > Email: rk@r... > Ph: 541.318.0248 > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM --~-> Archives: vedic astrology Group info: vedic astrology/info.html To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || <*> vedic astrology/ <*> vedic astrology <*> Your ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer Faculty member, SJC and ACVA Author, The Spiritual Dimensions of Vedic Astrology visit: http://www.robertkoch.com Email: rk (AT) robertkoch (DOT) com Ph: 541.318.0248 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Dear Robert Sir, Thank you for your detailed response and analysis. Sometimes we just need to find out somethings to help us understand life and its complexities better. I will certainly advise my sister based on your message below. Your earlier message where you had mentioned that the difficulties in life are perhaps just a means to lead the soul to higher conciousness struck a very deep cord in me. Once again I would like to thank you for your response. Dhwani. vedic astrology, Robert Koch <rk@r...> wrote: > > Dear Dhwani, > > I am sorry to hear that your sister has had these kinds of challenges > in life. Life presents a struggle for all of us, yet some among us > have a hard time of it due to karmas. Anyway, I've had a chance to > look at your sister's chart. These are my opinions: > > 1. There is no Kala-Amrta yoga in her chart, as the Moon is outside > the axis. The Moon - which, incidentally, also happens to be her > Atmakaraka - should be propitiated always. I will come to the > Deities for propitiation shortly. > > 2. The 7th lord's position in the 8th house with two malefics, while > 8th lord joins the 6th with a third malefic, is a troublesome yoga > for marriage indeed. However, the Moon is very important here, as > from the Moon's position (Chandra lagna), the same planets form > strong yogas with respect to the 5th and 7th houses. This gives > encouragement that she can break the cycle of misfortune thus far > experienced, and can be married, especially now that the D-1 Narayana > dasa of Libra has started as of Oct. 23, 2005. It is a ten year > dasa, and so given that she just started it, I believe a turn in a > more positive direction is eminent. > > 3. It so happens that the Darakaraka in this chart is 7th lord > Mercury, while Mercury is also the Ishta-devata. This is very > significant, in that the struggles and trials which normally > accompany the Ishta-devata's purging or cleansing of the native, > happens specifically in the arena of marriage. Now, this does not > mean that she will have only troubles in marriage. However, it does > show that there is a spiritual lesson associated with the karmic > experience of difficulty getting married first of all, and that > somehow this experience leads the native back to the Ishta-devata ultimately. > > 4. Given that the Moon is the AK (Krsna), and Mercury (Vishnu) is > the Ishta-devata, she would do well to do services at a Vishnu or > Radha-Krsna temple and worship the forms of the Deity. Prayers to or > the recitation of mantras to the Goddess Laksmi would also be highly > beneficial in her case. Having thus pleased Lakshmi-devi, the > goddess may bless her with fulfillment of the desire for marriage. > > 5. Finally, Saturn's conjunction with the lord of Upapada lagna > (again Mercury) delays marriage, yet does not deny it. Since the D-1 > Narayana dasa is of Libra, its trinal relationship with the UL > suggests the time period for marriage, while the Bhoga rasi falls > directly in the 7th from UL. See if she can do the remedial measures > as above, and I think that she will see blessings flow in due course. > > Best wishes, > Robert > > At 07:17 PM 11/13/2005, you wrote: > >Respected Sir, > > > >I had raised a question about my sister's horoscope sometime back > >but did not receive any response. I have been told she is inflicted > >by Kal Sarpa Yoga as well - but from your article it appears it > >might be Kal-Amrta Yoga. I was wondering if you could provide > >assistance by studying her chart and elaborating on marriage > >prospects and future. She has had a very trouble inflicted life all > >along....and we hope to do something to help. > > > >Her birth data is as follows: > >Date 23.10.1983 > >Time 16:20p.m. > >Place New Delhi, India > > > >Your assistance would be humbly appreciated. > > > >Thank you. > >Dhwani > > > > > > > > > >vedic astrology, Robert Koch <rk@r...> wrote: > > > > > > Om Vishnave Namah > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > Dear Paul, > > > > > > Thank you for your kind words. It is always my pleasure to help > > > whenever possible. > > > > > > You gave your daughter's birth data as 12/3/2000. Knowing that > >you > > > are from the UK, is this Dec. 3, or March 12, 2000? I'd like to > >have > > > a look at Tara's chart with respect to the questions you've raised. > > > > > > So far as remedial measures for Kala-Sarpa yoga are concerned, I > > > would say that the yoga is complex in its karmic underpinnings, > >and > > > so there is no easy way out of the challenges that may come as a > > > result of it. > > > > > > A question arises here: Should we always try remedial measures to > > > circumvent whatever is uncomfortable in life, or are such > >challenges > > > part of a process that leads to the soul's growth in > > > consciousness? Certainly, however, we would not stand by and > >watch a > > > loved one suffer if we could do anything about it. Often, > >however, > > > one suffers anyway as a result of dasa periods or KSY in > >operation, > > > regardless of the propitiation of Deities, wearing of gems, etc. > > > > > > Anyway, in my humble opinion - and this is based on the teachings > >of > > > my guru in the parampara of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the > >recitation > > > of the Shodaksari maha-mantra is the most potent form of remedial > > > measure to all kinds of afflictions in Kali-yuga, for all persons, > > > from all walks of life worldwide. Again, I repeat it as follows: > > > > > > Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare > > > Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare > > > > > > Someone might argue that insistence on the recitation of the > > > Maha-mantra, above other Upayes, represents a religious bias. > >This > > > is not the case, in as much as the supreme Deity Vishnu or Shiva > >are > > > really neither Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Jewish Gods, no more than > > > the Sun rising on someone's household or village is Hindu, > >Christian, > > > etc.! This is the reason why persons from any kind of background > > > benefit greatly from its recitation, and there are no special > > > criteria either, such as having Diksa initiation, performing > > > purificatory rites, etc. > > > > > > A shortened for of the Maha-mantra is routinely recited by members > >of > > > SJC, and it is the Janaka Shad-aksari mantra, as follows: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > So, please clarify your daughters data, and we shall have a good > >look > > > at her chart. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Robert > > > > > > At 08:50 AM 11/13/2005, you wrote: > > > >Dear Group, > > > > > > > >Very clear and beautifully witten article on KSY, thank you > >Robert. > > > >My daughter (age 5 ) has KSY in her chart. I beleive she will > >have > > > >some fame at some point, exalted moon is on the mc, which is also > > > >the AL. There is also a strong Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga to Saturn. > > > > > > > >However I would like to be able to do soem remedies etc. Could > >you > > > >please advice the remedies for KSY. My daughter enters Rahu > > > >Vimshottari soonish! I am aware of the 1L in 7H, but still find > > > >Vimshottari works as well (I should use Dwisaptati Sama Dasa in my > > > >chart, but I cant relate to it very well. > > > > > > > >Also in this chart would a Ruby or a Sapphire (yellow) be better, > > > >bearing in mind that Mars is in the 8h (Parivartana Yoga). > > > > > > > >Also gems are not suitable for children (they may lose them, or > >give > > > >them away at school!) so can ordianry planetary pujas be formed? > > > >And at what age? > > > > > > > >Any help here appreciated, > > > > > > > >Tara 12/3/2000 > > > >17:36:50 Barnet, England > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > > > > > >Paul Jenkins > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer > > > Faculty member, SJC and ACVA > > > Author, The Spiritual Dimensions of Vedic Astrology > > > visit: http://www.robertkoch.com > > > Email: rk@r... > > > Ph: 541.318.0248 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer > Faculty member, SJC and ACVA > Author, The Spiritual Dimensions of Vedic Astrology > visit: http://www.robertkoch.com > Email: rk@r... > Ph: 541.318.0248 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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