ATP Analysis for Kumar P(TOB rectification)

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The natal chart lagna of Navamsa moves into Cancer(from Leo). The trouble to

relationships seem to better explained with lagna being in Leo, because Jupiter

will be the 5th lord,A7 and 8th lord in lagna, Ven-Jup was running during that

time according to vimshottari (none of the special dasa systems apply, so am

using vimshottari).

 

The natal chart lagna of D-24 moves into saggitarius from capricorn. During the

Ven-mars period the native had a great success in education(he acheived a very

good rank in a competitive exam). If the lagna is capricorn the rajayoga

between 4th and 5th lord (mars and venus resp) makes a lot sense, whereas in

case of saggaitarius I am not able to see any such thing.

 

Thanks!

Phani

 

 

 

On 11/12/05, kumar p <to.learn.astrology > wrote:

Namasthe,

Thanks a lot for your very clear explanation and for your time in analysing and

writing it down). Firstly let me state that I am just a novice in astrology

just beginning to understand the basics. Please pardon me if I happen to ask

anything silly or make no sense.

 

I have now understood the importance of Arudhas. I was under the impression that

Raja Yogas play a role(if not important) in the outcome of what one does. There

are few more queries that I have. (All w.r.t to the ATP chart not the natal

chart)

why will saturn 5th and 6th lord(being a functional benific lord) in navamsa

show dissapointment in relationships? Is it because of his role in rasi chart

and being the hora lord? Or is it merely because he is the 6th lord? why is the

exhange between rahu and mars bad? (considering they are lords of 9th and 7th

resp.) Is it that exchage of enemies is not good?

Thanks

Kumar P.

On 11/12/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa

> wrote:

namaschandikaayaiDear Kumar,Let me add a caveat here: The position of ATP Lagna

in 8th from Natal Lagna doesnt spell doom all the time! The 8th house

alsosignifies hard work and upaasana. Lets assume, if the ATP D24 lagnahad

indeed been Saggitarius, with all its positive indication, itwould have given

success after lot of hard work! Please also note, that Saturn the hora lord is

Retrograde having lotof chesta bala, and in 6th from natal lagna, and in 12th

in D24,indicates that the native did work hard, but met with

failure!Incidentally, the trouble maker, Mercury in D24 is also lord of A7 in

ATP rashi, and in 6th house in ATP Navamsa!Regards-Narayan---- In

vedic astrology

, "naaraayana_iyer"<jaimini.upadesa@g ...> wrote:>> namaschandikaayai>> Dear

Kumar,>> [ Please Note: I feel the birthtime should be pushed back byatleast

> 6 minutes, the time I am using for your information is 10:06] >> We do use

the natal chart to judge the Annual Tithi Praveshachart.> The ATP chart for

2003 has Leo rising, which is in the 8th house

> from your natal chart. This is not auspicious and generally shows > some kind

of disappointment.>> The Hora Lord is Saturn, which in your ATP, is in the 8th

fromyour> natal moon forming kantaka shani which adds to the above mentioned

> position of ATP lagna w.r.t Natal lagna!>> Saturn is the 6th and 7th lord in

the 11th house in Gemini, hencea> functional malefic, and the same Saturn

happens to be the Lagnalord> in your natal chart. This is not a good indication

and is a result > of ATP lagna in dusthana from Natal lagna.>> Also, note that

in ATP, Saturn is in A7 in Gemini [ also known as> Mithuna (Maithuna) the sign

signifying sex & relationship and> symbolized by a couple in embrace], which is

not good from the point> of view of relationship(s)! Further, Saturn, being the

5th and 6th> lord in Navamsa is in 7th house, showing some problems and>

disppointment in relationship with the opposite sex during that year.> Most

importantly, Saturn is the lord of Mrityu Pada (A8) in ATP> Rashi, which shows

manifestation of disappointments and dejections.>> Now, lets move to D24:>>

With the new time, we have Scorpio rising. With the old time, we had>

Saggitarius rising, with 9th lord in lagna, and Saturn as lord of> AL, should

have given you success in education, which did nothappen!>> With Scoroio

rising, we have badhakesh Moon in Lagna, showing > disturbance in education.

Usually when badhakesh interferes, the> reasons are not clear and inexplicable!

This explains disturbancein> education. Further, note, that badhakesh is not

really weak, as it > gets neechabhanga, with the position of Mars in kendra

from Lagna> and Moon! So, this badhakesh is strong! Interestingly, it is the>

Lagna lord giving strength to badhakesh, indicating, the native

has> himself to blame, and in rasi chart, this Mars is in Marana Karaka> Sthana

in the 7th house of relationships, in a sign ruled bySaturn,> the hora lord!>>

Next, we note that the 5th lord in Chaturvimsamsa is debilitated and> is

forming a dur-yoga with the 8th lord Mercury, and in Marana> Karaka Sthana, all

indicating the natives antipathy towards> education! This combination also

happens to aspect the 12th from

AL,> indicating loss of status or image, or simply put, failure. Lookfor>

periods of Jupiter & Mercury, especially Mercury as it gives the> result of

Jupiter.>> Next, analyze hora lord, Saturn. For higher education, like >

bachelors degree, consider the 9th house. Look at A9, to seesuccess> or

failure. Here A9 is in Pisces, with Jupiter as its lord, whose> avastha we have

already examined, further, Saturn the hora lord is in> 2nd from a AL, thereby

ruining it!>> Regarding your questions on raja yoga, please note that the

same,> Mars is having a parivarthana with Rahu, this is definitely not> good!

Further, Mars is also the badhakesh in rasi ATP. The raja > yoga, shows what

your actions are, and what the native does, to> analyze the result, always use

the Arudha! I gave a presentationon> this topic at the Boston Conference this

year, which is available > free for download. Do consider listening to it.>>

Regards> -Narayan->>>>

vedic astrology , kumar p> <to.learn.astrology@g...> wrote:> >>

> Hi all,> > I am looking for help on analysis of a particular Annual Tithi>

Pravesha

> > Chart. The following is the discription of the same. Assume that > the

birth> > time is of reasonable accuracy.> > Annual TP> >> > November 24,

2003> > Time: 0:55:41

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 80 E 27' 00", 16 N 18' 00" > >

Guntur, India> > Altitude: 0.00 meters> >> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Subhanu - Karthika

> > Tithi: Amavasya (Ra) (17.61% left)> > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)> >

Nakshatra: Anuraadha (Sa) ( 86.99% left)> > Yoga: Atiganda (Mo) (58.14% left)>

> Karana: Naga (Sa) (

35.22% left)> > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Le)> > Mahakala Hora: Saturn (5

min sign: Li)> > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > >> > Sunrise: 6:19:07

(November 23)> > Sunset: 17:29:40 (November 23)

> > Janma Ghatis: 46.5236> >> > Ayanamsa: 23-54-27.76> > Sidereal Time: 4:56:54>

>> > +--------------+> > | |Ra |HL |SaR Gk |

> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> >

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |Ma | |Md |> > | | | |> >

| | | |

> > | | | |> > | | | |> > |-----------| Rasi |-----------|> > | | |As Ju |> > |

| | |> > | | | | > > | | | |> > | | | |> >

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> > |Ve |Su Mo |Ke |GL |> > | |Me AL | | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > | | | |

| > > +--------------+> >> >

+--------------+

> > | |Ra Ke | | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | | > > | | | | |> >

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > |Ma HL | | |> > |AL | | |

> > | | | |> > | | | |> > | | Siddhamsa | |> > |-----------| |-----------| > >

|Me Ju | D-24 | |> > |Gk | | |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > | | | |

> > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > |As Su |Mo |SaR |Ve Md

|> > |GL | | | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> >

+--------------+

> >> > During the year of the ATP(i.e the year following Nov 23rd 2003) > the

native> > had a break in education. He is expected to complete his BTechin>

that year> > but was not able to complete it, and completed it the following

> year.> > > > Now the question is how can we explain the break in

educationjust> by using> > the ATP alone. Is it because> >> > 1. Mars (4th

Lord in Rasi) is in marana karaka sthana(7th) and > > 2. Jupiter, lagna and

4th lord is debilitated in D-24.> >> > What woud other positive points (given

below) indicate? Wontthey> play any> > role which indicate the chances for the

break in education is very> less> >> > 1. Raja Yoga between Mars(Yogakaraka)

and Jupiter(5th Lord)in> Rasi> > 2. The 4th House in rasi has Sun,Moon,

Mercury (1st,12th,2nd> and 11th > > lords) is this a bad indication for 4th

house?> > 3. Raja Yoga between Jupiter and Mercury in D-24(1st,4th,7th> and

10th> > lords)> >> > I would like to know if ATP alone explains the event.

If not then> I shall> > post the birth details in the next mail.> > Thanks> >

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I agree with you. I forgot about the parivarthana of Jupiter and Venus in D-24. But when you say

"With Leo Lagna in natal D9, there is a parivarthana between, Lagna lord and 8th

lord, which indicates disappointment or some sort of unstability, this would be

especially triggered, with the advent of Jupiter Antaradasa! "

 

Isnt the above we are looking for in that period? I mean a dissapointment in a

relationship(which is what has happened). With cancer lagna, how can

venus-jupiter explain dissapointment or is it possible that if we take the

overall period then there will be a successful relationship?

 

Thanks

Phani

 

P.S. Accepting cancer as the lagna, if we try to look at the chart with 7th

house as lagna(for the natives wife) it will have 2 planets venus and mercury

in marana karaka sthana, and lagna lord saturn goes into 12th. Does it indicate

something bad? If so is there anything that can be done?

 

On 11/12/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa > wrote:

namaschandikaayaiNamaste,Thanks for the feedback!I disagree! With Leo Lagna in

natal D9, there is a parivarthana between, Lagna lord and 8th lord, which

indicates disappointment or some sort of unstability, this would be especially

triggered, with the advent of Jupiter Antaradasa! With Cancer lagna, both Venus

and Jupiter have a shubha-kartari on Lagna with the lord of A7 Ketu in it, makes

more sense. Further, Navamsa Narayana Dasa at the time was Scorpio,

specifically, the first 1/3rd part, which gives the result of the sign, having

both AL & A7, showing relationship, further, the benefics, Jupiter & Venus,

being in 8th & 10th respectively from AL & A7, is good.In D24, there is a

parivarthana between Venus & Jupiter, hence Jupiter will act as if in Pisces in

conjunction with Venus, and Venus will act as if it is in Libra! With this, we

have a conjunction of 4th & 5th lords, with Saggitarius Lagna & rd and 4th with

Capricorn Lagna! Which one do you think is correct???With Capricorn Lagna, Mars

is lord of A8, and as such it wont give good results and will give breaks!More

importantly, with Sagittarius Lagna, the Bachelors degree is indicated by the

9th lord Sun, who being with Mercury and aspected by Mars, will give

Engineering (Computer/EE), whereas with Capricorn lagna, the 9th lord Mercury

with Sun, would tend to give Business Administration!With Saggitarius Lagna,

you would have graduated in Venus-Jupiter-Venus, which cannot be explained with

Capricorn Lagna!

-Narayan-vedic astrology, kumar p

<to.learn.astrology@g...> wrote:>

> Namasthe,> I am not convinced as to the TOB being 10.06. The reasons are as

follows. As> you have mentioned earlier the native did had dissapointement in a

> relationship during that year.> The natal chart lagna of Navamsa moves into

Cancer(from Leo). The trouble> to relationships seem to better explained with

lagna being in Leo, because> Jupiter will be the 5th lord,A7 and 8th lord in

lagna, Ven-Jup was running> during that time according to vimshottari (none of

the special dasa systems> apply, so am using vimshottari).> The natal chart

lagna of D-24 moves into saggitarius from capricorn. During

> the Ven-mars period the native had a great success in education(he acheived> a

very good rank in a competitive exam). If the lagna is capricorn the> rajayoga

between 4th and 5th lord (mars and venus resp) makes a lot sense,> whereas in

case of saggaitarius I am not able to see any such thing.> Thanks!> Phani> >

On 11/12/05, kumar p <to.learn.astrology@g...> wrote:

> >> > Namasthe,> > Thanks a lot for your very clear explanation and for your

time in> > analysing and writing it down). Firstly let me state that I am just

a novice> > in astrology just beginning to understand the basics. Please pardon

me if I> > happen to ask anything silly or make no sense.> > I have now

understood the importance of Arudhas. I was under the> > impression that Raja

Yogas play a role(if not important) in the outcome of> > what one does. There

are few more queries that I have. (All w.r.t to the> > ATP chart not the natal

chart)> >> > 1. why will saturn 5th and 6th lord(being a functional benific

lord)> > in navamsa show dissapointment in relationships? Is it because of

his role> > in rasi chart and being the hora lord? Or is it merely because

he is the 6th

> > lord?> > 2. why is the exhange between rahu and mars bad? (considering

they> > are lords of 9th and 7th resp.) Is it that exchage of enemies is not

good?

> >> > Thanks> > Kumar P.> >> >

> > On 11/12/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:> >> > >

namaschandikaayai> > >> > > Dear Kumar,

> > >> > > Let me add a caveat here: The position of ATP Lagna in 8th from> > >

Natal Lagna doesnt spell doom all the time! The 8th house also> > > signifies

hard work and upaasana. Lets assume, if the ATP D24 lagna> > > had indeed been

Saggitarius, with all its positive indication, it> > > would have given success

after lot of hard work!> > >> > > Please also note, that Saturn the hora lord is

Retrograde having lot> > > of chesta bala, and in 6th from natal lagna, and in

12th in D24,> > > indicates that the native did work hard, but met with

failure!> > >> > > Incidentally, the trouble maker, Mercury in D24 is also lord

of A7> > > in ATP rashi, and in 6th house in ATP Navamsa!> > >> > > Regards> > >

-Narayan-> > >> > >> > >

vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer"> > > <jaimini.upadesa@g ...>

wrote:> > > >> > > > namaschandikaayai> > > >> > > > Dear Kumar,

> > > >> > > > [ Please Note: I feel the birthtime should be pushed back by> > >

atleast> > > > 6 minutes, the time I am using for your information is 10:06]

> > > >> > > > We do use the natal chart to judge the Annual Tithi Pravesha> > >

chart.> > > > The ATP chart for 2003 has Leo rising, which is in the 8th house

> > > > from your natal chart. This is not auspicious and generally shows> > > >

some kind of disappointment.> > > >> > > > The Hora Lord is Saturn, which in

your ATP, is in the 8th from> > > your> > > > natal moon forming kantaka shani

which adds to the above mentioned> > > > position of ATP lagna w.r.t Natal

lagna!> > > >> > > > Saturn is the 6th and 7th lord in the 11th house in

Gemini, hence> > > a> > > > functional malefic, and the same Saturn happens to

be the Lagna> > > lord> > > > in your natal chart. This is not a good

indication and is a result> > > > of ATP lagna in dusthana from Natal lagna.> >

> >> > > > Also, note that in ATP, Saturn is in A7 in Gemini [ also known as> >

> > Mithuna (Maithuna) the sign signifying sex & relationship and

> > > > symbolized by a couple in embrace], which is not good from the> > >

point> > > > of view of relationship(s)! Further, Saturn, being the 5th and

6th> > > > lord in Navamsa is in 7th house, showing some problems and

> > > > disppointment in relationship with the opposite sex during that> > >

year.> > > > Most importantly, Saturn is the lord of Mrityu Pada (A8) in ATP> >

> > Rashi, which shows manifestation of disappointments and dejections.> > > >>

> > > Now, lets move to D24:> > > >> > > > With the new time, we have Scorpio

rising. With the old time, we> > > had

> > > > Saggitarius rising, with 9th lord in lagna, and Saturn as lord of> > > >

AL, should have given you success in education, which did not> > > happen!> > >

>

> > > > With Scoroio rising, we have badhakesh Moon in Lagna, showing> > > >

disturbance in education. Usually when badhakesh interferes, the> > > > reasons

are not clear and inexplicable! This explains disturbance> > > in> > > >

education. Further, note, that badhakesh is not really weak, as it> > > > gets

neechabhanga, with the position of Mars in kendra from Lagna

> > > > and Moon! So, this badhakesh is strong! Interestingly, it is the> > > >

Lagna lord giving strength to badhakesh, indicating, the native> > > has> > > >

himself to blame, and in rasi chart, this Mars is in Marana Karaka> > > > Sthana

in the 7th house of relationships, in a sign ruled by> > > Saturn,> > > > the

hora lord!> > > >> > > > Next, we note that the 5th lord in Chaturvimsamsa is

debilitated> > > and> > > > is forming a dur-yoga with the 8th lord Mercury,

and in Marana> > > > Karaka Sthana, all indicating the natives antipathy

towards> > > > education! This combination also happens to aspect the 12th

from> > > AL,> > > > indicating loss of status or image, or simply put,

failure. Look> > > for> > > > periods of Jupiter & Mercury, especially Mercury

as it gives the> > > > result of Jupiter.> > > >> > > > Next, analyze hora

lord, Saturn. For higher education, like> > > > bachelors degree, consider the

9th house. Look at A9, to see

> > > success> > > > or failure. Here A9 is in Pisces, with Jupiter as its lord,

whose> > > > avastha we have already examined, further, Saturn the hora lord is>

> > in

> > > > 2nd from a AL, thereby ruining it!> > > >> > > > Regarding your

questions on raja yoga, please note that the same,> > > > Mars is having a

parivarthana with Rahu, this is definitely not> > > > good! Further, Mars is

also the badhakesh in rasi ATP. The raja> > > > yoga, shows what your actions

are, and what the native does, to> > > > analyze the result, always use the

Arudha! I gave a presentation> > > on> > > > this topic at the Boston

Conference this year, which is available> > > > free for download. Do consider

listening to it.> > > >

> > > > Regards> > > > -Narayan-> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >

vedic astrology , kumar p> > > > <to.learn.astrology@g...>

wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hi all,> > > > > I am looking for help on analysis of

a particular Annual Tithi> > > > Pravesha> > > > > Chart. The following is the

discription of the same. Assume that> > > > the birth> > > > > time is of

reasonable accuracy.

> > > > > Annual TP> > > > >> > > > > November 24, 2003> > > > > Time:

0:55:41> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > Place: 80 E 27' 00", 16 N 18' 00"> > > > > Guntur, India> > > > >

Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > > >> > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Subhanu - Karthika

> > > > > Tithi: Amavasya (Ra) (17.61% left)> > > > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday

(Su)> > > > > Nakshatra: Anuraadha (Sa) ( 86.99% left)> > > > > Yoga: Atiganda

(Mo) (

58.14% left)> > > > > Karana: Naga (Sa) (35.22% left)> > > > > Hora Lord: Saturn

(5 min sign: Le)> > > > > Mahakala Hora: Saturn (5 min sign: Li)> > > > > Kaala

Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)

> > > > >> > > > > Sunrise: 6:19:07 (November 23)> > > > > Sunset: 17:29:40

(November 23)> > > > > Janma Ghatis: 46.5236> > > > >

> > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-54-27.76> > > > > Sidereal Time: 4:56:54> > > > >> > > >

> +--------------+> > > > > | |Ra |HL |SaR Gk

|

> > > > > | | | | |> > > > > | | | | |> > > > > | | | | |> > > > > | | | | |> >

> > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> > > > > |Ma | |Md |> > > > > | | | |> > > > > | | | |> > > > > | | | |> > > >

> | | | |> > > > > |-----------| Rasi |-----------|

> > > > > | | |As Ju |> > > > > | | | |> > > > > | | | |> > > > > | | | |> > > >

> | | | |> > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> > > > > |Ve |Su Mo |Ke |GL |> > > > > | |Me AL | | |> > > > > | | | | |> > > >

> | | | | |> > > > > | | | | |> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > >> > > > > +--------------+> > > > > |

|Ra Ke | | |> > > > > | | | | |> > > > > | | | | |

> > > > > | | | | |> > > > > | | | | |> > > > >

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > > > |Ma HL | | |> > > >

> |AL | | |

> > > > > | | | |> > > > > | | | |> > > > > | | Siddhamsa | |> > > > >

|-----------| |-----------|> > > > > |Me Ju | D-24 | |

> > > > > |Gk | | |> > > > > | | | |> > > > > | | | |> > > > > | | | |> > > > >

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> > > > > |As Su |Mo |SaR |Ve Md |> > > > > |GL | | | |> > > > > | | | | |> > >

> > | | | | |> > > > > | | | | |> > > > >

+--------------+

> > > > >> > > > > During the year of the ATP(i.e the year following Nov 23rd

2003)> > > > the native> > > > > had a break in education. He is expected to

complete his BTech> > > in> > > > that year> > > > > but was not able to

complete it, and completed it the following> > > > year.> > > > >> > > > > Now

the question is how can we explain the break in education> > > just> > > > by

using> > > > > the ATP alone. Is it because> > > > >> > > > > 1. Mars (4th Lord

in Rasi) is in marana karaka sthana(7th) and> > > > > 2. Jupiter, lagna and 4th

lord is debilitated in D-24.> > > > >> > > > > What woud other positive points

(given below) indicate? Wont> > > they

> > > > play any> > > > > role which indicate the chances for the break in

education is> > > very> > > > less> > > > >> > > > > 1. Raja Yoga between

Mars(Yogakaraka) and Jupiter(5th Lord)

> > > in> > > > Rasi> > > > > 2. The 4th House in rasi has Sun,Moon, Mercury

(1st,12th,2nd> > > > and 11th> > > > > lords) is this a bad indication for 4th

house?

> > > > > 3. Raja Yoga between Jupiter and Mercury in D-24(1st,4th,7th> > > >

and 10th> > > > > lords)> > > > >> > > > > I would like to know if ATP alone

explains the event. If not> > > then> > > > I shall> > > > > post the birth

details in the next mail.> > > > > Thanks> > > > > kumar P.> > > > >

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Dear Phanikumar,

 

Is possible Jupiter-Venus parivarthana since both are

inimical.Please clarify.

 

Thanks,

S.Venkatesh

 

--- Phanikumar Velaga <itsverysimple wrote:

 

> Namasthe,

> I agree with you. I forgot about the parivarthana of Jupiter and

> Venus in

> D-24. But when you say

>

> "With Leo Lagna in natal D9, there is a parivarthana

> between, Lagna lord and 8th lord, which indicates disappointment or

> some sort of unstability, this would be especially triggered, with

> the advent of Jupiter Antaradasa! "

> Isnt the above we are looking for in that period? I mean a

> dissapointment

> in a relationship(which is what has happened). With cancer lagna,

> how can

> venus-jupiter explain dissapointment or is it possible that if we

> take the

> overall period then there will be a successful relationship?

> Thanks

> Phani

> P.S. Accepting cancer as the lagna, if we try to look at the chart

> with 7th

> house as lagna(for the natives wife) it will have 2 planets venus

> and

> mercury in marana karaka sthana, and lagna lord saturn goes into

> 12th. Does

> it indicate something bad? If so is there anything that can be

> done?

>

> On 11/12/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa wrote:

> >

> > namaschandikaayai

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > Thanks for the feedback!

> >

> > I disagree! With Leo Lagna in natal D9, there is a parivarthana

> > between, Lagna lord and 8th lord, which indicates disappointment

> or

> > some sort of unstability, this would be especially triggered,

> with

> > the advent of Jupiter Antaradasa! With Cancer lagna, both Venus

> and

> > Jupiter have a shubha-kartari on Lagna with the lord of A7 Ketu

> in

> > it, makes more sense. Further, Navamsa Narayana Dasa at the time

> was

> > Scorpio, specifically, the first 1/3rd part, which gives the

> result

> > of the sign, having both AL & A7, showing relationship, further,

> the

> > benefics, Jupiter & Venus, being in 8th & 10th respectively from

> AL

> > & A7, is good.

> >

> > In D24, there is a parivarthana between Venus & Jupiter, hence

> > Jupiter will act as if in Pisces in conjunction with Venus, and

> > Venus will act as if it is in Libra! With this, we have a

> > conjunction of 4th & 5th lords, with Saggitarius Lagna & rd and

> 4th

> > with Capricorn Lagna! Which one do you think is correct???

> >

> > With Capricorn Lagna, Mars is lord of A8, and as such it wont

> give

> > good results and will give breaks!

> >

> > More importantly, with Sagittarius Lagna, the Bachelors degree is

> > indicated by the 9th lord Sun, who being with Mercury and

> aspected

> > by Mars, will give Engineering (Computer/EE), whereas with

> Capricorn

> > lagna, the 9th lord Mercury with Sun, would tend to give Business

> > Administration!

> >

> > With Saggitarius Lagna, you would have graduated in

> Venus-Jupiter-

> > Venus, which cannot be explained with Capricorn Lagna!

> >

> > -Narayan-

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, kumar p

> > <to.learn.astrology@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namasthe,

> > > I am not convinced as to the TOB being 10.06. The reasons are

> as

> > follows. As

> > > you have mentioned earlier the native did had dissapointement

> in a

> > > relationship during that year.

> > > The natal chart lagna of Navamsa moves into Cancer(from Leo).

> The

> > trouble

> > > to relationships seem to better explained with lagna being in

> Leo,

> > because

> > > Jupiter will be the 5th lord,A7 and 8th lord in lagna, Ven-Jup

> was

> > running

> > > during that time according to vimshottari (none of the special

> > dasa systems

> > > apply, so am using vimshottari).

> > > The natal chart lagna of D-24 moves into saggitarius from

> > capricorn. During

> > > the Ven-mars period the native had a great success in

> education(he

> > acheived

> > > a very good rank in a competitive exam). If the lagna is

> capricorn

> > the

> > > rajayoga between 4th and 5th lord (mars and venus resp) makes a

> > lot sense,

> > > whereas in case of saggaitarius I am not able to see any such

> > thing.

> > > Thanks!

> > > Phani

> > >

> > > On 11/12/05, kumar p <to.learn.astrology@g...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namasthe,

> > > > Thanks a lot for your very clear explanation and for your

> time in

> > > > analysing and writing it down). Firstly let me state that I

> am

> > just a novice

> > > > in astrology just beginning to understand the basics. Please

> > pardon me if I

> > > > happen to ask anything silly or make no sense.

> > > > I have now understood the importance of Arudhas. I was under

> the

> > > > impression that Raja Yogas play a role(if not important) in

> the

> > outcome of

> > > > what one does. There are few more queries that I have. (All

> > w.r.t to the

> > > > ATP chart not the natal chart)

> > > >

> > > > 1. why will saturn 5th and 6th lord(being a functional

> > benific lord)

> > > > in navamsa show dissapointment in relationships? Is it

> > because of his role

> > > > in rasi chart and being the hora lord? Or is it merely

> > because he is the 6th

> > > > lord?

> > > > 2. why is the exhange between rahu and mars bad? (considering

> > they

> > > > are lords of 9th and 7th resp.) Is it that exchage of enemies

> > is not good?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Kumar P.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 11/12/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > namaschandikaayai

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Kumar,

> > > > >

> > > > > Let me add a caveat here: The position of ATP Lagna in 8th

> from

> > > > > Natal Lagna doesnt spell doom all the time! The 8th house

> also

> > > > > signifies hard work and upaasana. Lets assume, if the ATP

> D24

> > lagna

> > > > > had indeed been Saggitarius, with all its positive

> indication,

> > it

> > > > > would have given success after lot of hard work!

> > > > >

> > > > > Please also note, that Saturn the hora lord is Retrograde

> > having lot

> > > > > of chesta bala, and in 6th from natal lagna, and in 12th in

> > D24,

> > > > > indicates that the native did work hard, but met with

> failure!

> > > > >

> > > > > Incidentally, the trouble maker, Mercury in D24 is also

> lord

> > of A7

> > > > > in ATP rashi, and in 6th house in ATP Navamsa!

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > -Narayan-

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer"

> > > > > <jaimini.upadesa@g ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > namaschandikaayai

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Kumar,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [ Please Note: I feel the birthtime should be pushed back

> by

> > > > > atleast

> > > > > > 6 minutes, the time I am using for your information is

> 10:06]

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We do use the natal chart to judge the Annual Tithi

> Pravesha

>

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I dont understand what you are asking me to clarify. The Jupiter-Venus Exchange

in D-24 would imply that Venus will act as 4th lord in 4th. and hence it will

result in rajayoga with mars(5th lord).

 

In the case of navamsa if lagna is to be taken as cancer, then how can anthar

dasa of jupiter in venus maha dasa cause a dissapointment in relationship? Or

will it imply that the anthar dasha(which will end in another 6 months ) taken

as a whole would end in a successful relationship? Hope I have clarified what

you wanted. Let me know if i didnt.

 

Thanks

Phani

 

 

On 11/12/05, Venkatesh S <ksvssvk > wrote:

|JAI SRIRAM|Dear Phanikumar, Is possible Jupiter-Venus parivarthana

since both are

inimical.Please clarify.Thanks,S.Venkatesh --- Phanikumar Velaga <itsverysimple

> wrote:> Namasthe,> I agree with you. I forgot about the parivarthana of

Jupiter and> Venus in> D-24. But when you say> > "With Leo Lagna in natal D9,

there is a parivarthana

> between, Lagna lord and 8th lord, which indicates disappointment or> some sort

of unstability, this would be especially triggered, with> the advent of Jupiter

Antaradasa! "> Isnt the above we are looking for in that period? I mean a

> dissapointment> in a relationship(which is what has happened). With cancer

lagna,> how can> venus-jupiter explain dissapointment or is it possible that if

we> take the> overall period then there will be a successful relationship?

> Thanks> Phani> P.S. Accepting cancer as the lagna, if we try to look at the

chart> with 7th> house as lagna(for the natives wife) it will have 2 planets

venus> and> mercury in marana karaka sthana, and lagna lord saturn goes into

> 12th. Does> it indicate something bad? If so is there anything that can be>

done?> > On 11/12/05, naaraayana_iyer <

jaimini.upadesa > wrote:> >> > namaschandikaayai> >> > Namaste,> >> >

Thanks for the feedback!> >> > I disagree! With Leo Lagna in natal D9, there is

a parivarthana

> > between, Lagna lord and 8th lord, which indicates disappointment> or> > some

sort of unstability, this would be especially triggered,> with> > the advent of

Jupiter Antaradasa! With Cancer lagna, both Venus

> and> > Jupiter have a shubha-kartari on Lagna with the lord of A7 Ketu> in> >

it, makes more sense. Further, Navamsa Narayana Dasa at the time> was> >

Scorpio, specifically, the first 1/3rd part, which gives the

> result> > of the sign, having both AL & A7, showing relationship, further,>

the> > benefics, Jupiter & Venus, being in 8th & 10th respectively from> AL> >

& A7, is good.

> >> > In D24, there is a parivarthana between Venus & Jupiter, hence> > Jupiter

will act as if in Pisces in conjunction with Venus, and> > Venus will act as if

it is in Libra! With this, we have a

> > conjunction of 4th & 5th lords, with Saggitarius Lagna & rd and> 4th> > with

Capricorn Lagna! Which one do you think is correct???> >> > With Capricorn

Lagna, Mars is lord of A8, and as such it wont

> give> > good results and will give breaks!> >> > More importantly, with

Sagittarius Lagna, the Bachelors degree is> > indicated by the 9th lord Sun,

who being with Mercury and

> aspected> > by Mars, will give Engineering (Computer/EE), whereas with>

Capricorn> > lagna, the 9th lord Mercury with Sun, would tend to give Business>

> Administration!> >

> > With Saggitarius Lagna, you would have graduated in> Venus-Jupiter-> >

Venus, which cannot be explained with Capricorn Lagna!> >> > -Narayan-> >> >

> > vedic astrology, kumar p> > <to.learn.astrology@g...>

wrote:

> > >> > > Namasthe,> > > I am not convinced as to the TOB being 10.06. The

reasons are> as> > follows. As> > > you have mentioned earlier the native did

had dissapointement

> in a> > > relationship during that year.> > > The natal chart lagna of Navamsa

moves into Cancer(from Leo).> The> > trouble> > > to relationships seem to

better explained with lagna being in

> Leo,> > because> > > Jupiter will be the 5th lord,A7 and 8th lord in lagna,

Ven-Jup> was> > running> > > during that time according to vimshottari (none of

the special

> > dasa systems> > > apply, so am using vimshottari).> > > The natal chart

lagna of D-24 moves into saggitarius from> > capricorn. During> > > the

Ven-mars period the native had a great success in

> education(he> > acheived> > > a very good rank in a competitive exam). If the

lagna is> capricorn> > the> > > rajayoga between 4th and 5th lord (mars and

venus resp) makes a

> > lot sense,> > > whereas in case of saggaitarius I am not able to see any

such> > thing.> > > Thanks!> > > Phani> > >> > > On 11/12/05, kumar p <

to.learn.astrology@g...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Namasthe,> > > > Thanks a lot for

your very clear explanation and for your> time in> > > > analysing and writing

it down). Firstly let me state that I

> am> > just a novice> > > > in astrology just beginning to understand the

basics. Please> > pardon me if I> > > > happen to ask anything silly or make no

sense.

> > > > I have now understood the importance of Arudhas. I was under> the> > > >

impression that Raja Yogas play a role(if not important) in> the> > outcome of>

> > > what one does. There are few more queries that I have. (All

> > w.r.t to the> > > > ATP chart not the natal chart)> > > >> > > > 1. why will

saturn 5th and 6th lord(being a functional> > benific lord)> > > > in navamsa

show dissapointment in relationships? Is it

> > because of his role> > > > in rasi chart and being the hora lord? Or is it

merely> > because he is the 6th> > > > lord?> > > > 2. why is the exhange

between rahu and mars bad? (considering

> > they> > > > are lords of 9th and 7th resp.) Is it that exchage of enemies> >

is not good?> > > >> > > > Thanks> > > > Kumar P.> > > >

> > > >> > > > On 11/12/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:> > >

>> > > > > namaschandikaayai> > > > >> > > > > Dear Kumar,

> > > > >> > > > > Let me add a caveat here: The position of ATP Lagna in 8th>

from> > > > > Natal Lagna doesnt spell doom all the time! The 8th house> also

> > > > > signifies hard work and upaasana. Lets assume, if the ATP> D24> >

lagna> > > > > had indeed been Saggitarius, with all its positive> indication,>

> it

> > > > > would have given success after lot of hard work!> > > > >> > > > >

Please also note, that Saturn the hora lord is Retrograde> > having lot> > > >

> of chesta bala, and in 6th from natal lagna, and in 12th in

> > D24,> > > > > indicates that the native did work hard, but met with>

failure!> > > > >> > > > > Incidentally, the trouble maker, Mercury in D24 is

also

> lord> > of A7> > > > > in ATP rashi, and in 6th house in ATP Navamsa!> > > >

>> > > > > Regards> > > > > -Narayan-> > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer"

> > > > > <jaimini.upadesa@g ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >

namaschandikaayai> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Kumar,

> > > > > >> > > > > > [ Please Note: I feel the birthtime should be pushed

back> by> > > > > atleast> > > > > > 6 minutes, the time I am using for your

information is

> 10:06]> > > > > >> > > > > > We do use the natal chart to judge the Annual

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Dear Phanikumar,

 

My question is Venus and Jupiter is having exchange results?

since Jupiter satru is Venus.Upto my little knowledge whenever the

planets are not enimies then only they may have parivarthna yoga.

 

Thanks,

S.Venkatesh

 

--- Phanikumar Velaga <itsverysimple wrote:

 

> Namasthe,

> I dont understand what you are asking me to clarify. The

> Jupiter-Venus

> Exchange in D-24 would imply that Venus will act as 4th lord in

> 4th. and

> hence it will result in rajayoga with mars(5th lord).

> In the case of navamsa if lagna is to be taken as cancer, then how

> can

> anthar dasa of jupiter in venus maha dasa cause a dissapointment in

> relationship? Or will it imply that the anthar dasha(which will end

> in

> another 6 months ) taken as a whole would end in a successful

> relationship?

>

> Hope I have clarified what you wanted. Let me know if i didnt.

> Thanks

> Phani

> On 11/12/05, Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> >

> > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > Dear Phanikumar,

> >

> > Is possible Jupiter-Venus parivarthana since both are

> > inimical.Please clarify.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > S.Venkatesh

> >

> > --- Phanikumar Velaga <itsverysimple wrote:

> >

> > > Namasthe,

> > > I agree with you. I forgot about the parivarthana of Jupiter

> and

> > > Venus in

> > > D-24. But when you say

> > >

> > > "With Leo Lagna in natal D9, there is a parivarthana

> > > between, Lagna lord and 8th lord, which indicates

> disappointment or

> > > some sort of unstability, this would be especially triggered,

> with

> > > the advent of Jupiter Antaradasa! "

> > > Isnt the above we are looking for in that period? I mean a

> > > dissapointment

> > > in a relationship(which is what has happened). With cancer

> lagna,

> > > how can

> > > venus-jupiter explain dissapointment or is it possible that if

> we

> > > take the

> > > overall period then there will be a successful relationship?

> > > Thanks

> > > Phani

> > > P.S. Accepting cancer as the lagna, if we try to look at the

> chart

> > > with 7th

> > > house as lagna(for the natives wife) it will have 2 planets

> venus

> > > and

> > > mercury in marana karaka sthana, and lagna lord saturn goes

> into

> > > 12th. Does

> > > it indicate something bad? If so is there anything that can be

> > > done?

> > >

> > > On 11/12/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa wrote:

> > > >

> > > > namaschandikaayai

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the feedback!

> > > >

> > > > I disagree! With Leo Lagna in natal D9, there is a

> parivarthana

> > > > between, Lagna lord and 8th lord, which indicates

> disappointment

> > > or

> > > > some sort of unstability, this would be especially triggered,

> > > with

> > > > the advent of Jupiter Antaradasa! With Cancer lagna, both

> Venus

> > > and

> > > > Jupiter have a shubha-kartari on Lagna with the lord of A7

> Ketu

> > > in

> > > > it, makes more sense. Further, Navamsa Narayana Dasa at the

> time

> > > was

> > > > Scorpio, specifically, the first 1/3rd part, which gives the

> > > result

> > > > of the sign, having both AL & A7, showing relationship,

> further,

> > > the

> > > > benefics, Jupiter & Venus, being in 8th & 10th respectively

> from

> > > AL

> > > > & A7, is good.

> > > >

> > > > In D24, there is a parivarthana between Venus & Jupiter,

> hence

> > > > Jupiter will act as if in Pisces in conjunction with Venus,

> and

> > > > Venus will act as if it is in Libra! With this, we have a

> > > > conjunction of 4th & 5th lords, with Saggitarius Lagna & rd

> and

> > > 4th

> > > > with Capricorn Lagna! Which one do you think is correct???

> > > >

> > > > With Capricorn Lagna, Mars is lord of A8, and as such it wont

> > > give

> > > > good results and will give breaks!

> > > >

> > > > More importantly, with Sagittarius Lagna, the Bachelors

> degree is

> > > > indicated by the 9th lord Sun, who being with Mercury and

> > > aspected

> > > > by Mars, will give Engineering (Computer/EE), whereas with

> > > Capricorn

> > > > lagna, the 9th lord Mercury with Sun, would tend to give

> Business

> > > > Administration!

> > > >

> > > > With Saggitarius Lagna, you would have graduated in

> > > Venus-Jupiter-

> > > > Venus, which cannot be explained with Capricorn Lagna!

> > > >

> > > > -Narayan-

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, kumar p

> > > > <to.learn.astrology@g...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namasthe,

> > > > > I am not convinced as to the TOB being 10.06. The reasons

> are

> > > as

> > > > follows. As

> > > > > you have mentioned earlier the native did had

> dissapointement

> > > in a

> > > > > relationship during that year.

> > > > > The natal chart lagna of Navamsa moves into Cancer(from

> Leo).

> > > The

> > > > trouble

> > > > > to relationships seem to better explained with lagna being

> in

> > > Leo,

> > > > because

> > > > > Jupiter will be the 5th lord,A7 and 8th lord in lagna,

> Ven-Jup

> > > was

> > > > running

> > > > > during that time according to vimshottari (none of the

> special

> > > > dasa systems

> > > > > apply, so am using vimshottari).

> > > > > The natal chart lagna of D-24 moves into saggitarius from

> > > > capricorn. During

> > > > > the Ven-mars period the native had a great success in

> > > education(he

> > > > acheived

> > > > > a very good rank in a competitive exam). If the lagna is

> > > capricorn

> > > > the

> > > > > rajayoga between 4th and 5th lord (mars and venus resp)

> makes a

> > > > lot sense,

> > > > > whereas in case of saggaitarius I am not able to see any

> such

> > > > thing.

> > > > > Thanks!

> > > > > Phani

> > > > >

> > > > > On 11/12/05, kumar p <to.learn.astrology@g...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namasthe,

> > > > > > Thanks a lot for your very clear explanation and for your

> > > time in

> > > > > > analysing and writing it down). Firstly let me state that

> I

> > > am

> > > > just a novice

> > > > > > in astrology just beginning to understand the basics.

> Please

> > > > pardon me if I

> > > > > > happen to ask anything silly or make no sense.

> > > > > > I have now understood the importance of Arudhas. I was

> under

> > > the

> > > > > > impression that Raja Yogas play a role(if not important)

> in

> > > the

> > > > outcome of

> > > > > > what one does. There are few more queries that I have.

> (All

> > > > w.r.t to the

> > > > > > ATP chart not the natal chart)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. why will saturn 5th and 6th lord(being a functional

>

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Namasthe,

 

I dont know about that rule you are saying. From what I learnt the

planets being inimical has nothing to do whether parivarthana takes

place or not(Parivartana always takes place). But the results of the

parivartana vary depending on which houses the planets own, and

whether they are inimical or not. So in the case that we have venus

acts as if he is Jupiter in 4th, hence we will have a raja yoga

between mars and venus.

 

Thanks

Phani

 

On 11/12/05, Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> |JAI SRIRAM|

> Dear Phanikumar,

>

> My question is Venus and Jupiter is having exchange results?

> since Jupiter satru is Venus.Upto my little knowledge whenever the

> planets are not enimies then only they may have parivarthna yoga.

>

>

> Thanks,

> S.Venkatesh

>

> --- Phanikumar Velaga <itsverysimple wrote:

>

> > Namasthe,

> > I dont understand what you are asking me to clarify. The

> > Jupiter-Venus

> > Exchange in D-24 would imply that Venus will act as 4th lord in

> > 4th. and

> > hence it will result in rajayoga with mars(5th lord).

> > In the case of navamsa if lagna is to be taken as cancer, then how

> > can

> > anthar dasa of jupiter in venus maha dasa cause a dissapointment in

> > relationship? Or will it imply that the anthar dasha(which will end

> > in

> > another 6 months ) taken as a whole would end in a successful

> > relationship?

> >

> > Hope I have clarified what you wanted. Let me know if i didnt.

> > Thanks

> > Phani

> > On 11/12/05, Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > >

> > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > Dear Phanikumar,

> > >

> > > Is possible Jupiter-Venus parivarthana since both are

> > > inimical.Please clarify.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > S.Venkatesh

> > >

> > > --- Phanikumar Velaga <itsverysimple wrote:

> > >

> > > > Namasthe,

> > > > I agree with you. I forgot about the parivarthana of Jupiter

> > and

> > > > Venus in

> > > > D-24. But when you say

> > > >

> > > > "With Leo Lagna in natal D9, there is a parivarthana

> > > > between, Lagna lord and 8th lord, which indicates

> > disappointment or

> > > > some sort of unstability, this would be especially triggered,

> > with

> > > > the advent of Jupiter Antaradasa! "

> > > > Isnt the above we are looking for in that period? I mean a

> > > > dissapointment

> > > > in a relationship(which is what has happened). With cancer

> > lagna,

> > > > how can

> > > > venus-jupiter explain dissapointment or is it possible that if

> > we

> > > > take the

> > > > overall period then there will be a successful relationship?

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Phani

> > > > P.S. Accepting cancer as the lagna, if we try to look at the

> > chart

> > > > with 7th

> > > > house as lagna(for the natives wife) it will have 2 planets

> > venus

> > > > and

> > > > mercury in marana karaka sthana, and lagna lord saturn goes

> > into

> > > > 12th. Does

> > > > it indicate something bad? If so is there anything that can be

> > > > done?

> > > >

> > > > On 11/12/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > namaschandikaayai

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for the feedback!

> > > > >

> > > > > I disagree! With Leo Lagna in natal D9, there is a

> > parivarthana

> > > > > between, Lagna lord and 8th lord, which indicates

> > disappointment

> > > > or

> > > > > some sort of unstability, this would be especially triggered,

> > > > with

> > > > > the advent of Jupiter Antaradasa! With Cancer lagna, both

> > Venus

> > > > and

> > > > > Jupiter have a shubha-kartari on Lagna with the lord of A7

> > Ketu

> > > > in

> > > > > it, makes more sense. Further, Navamsa Narayana Dasa at the

> > time

> > > > was

> > > > > Scorpio, specifically, the first 1/3rd part, which gives the

> > > > result

> > > > > of the sign, having both AL & A7, showing relationship,

> > further,

> > > > the

> > > > > benefics, Jupiter & Venus, being in 8th & 10th respectively

> > from

> > > > AL

> > > > > & A7, is good.

> > > > >

> > > > > In D24, there is a parivarthana between Venus & Jupiter,

> > hence

> > > > > Jupiter will act as if in Pisces in conjunction with Venus,

> > and

> > > > > Venus will act as if it is in Libra! With this, we have a

> > > > > conjunction of 4th & 5th lords, with Saggitarius Lagna & rd

> > and

> > > > 4th

> > > > > with Capricorn Lagna! Which one do you think is correct???

> > > > >

> > > > > With Capricorn Lagna, Mars is lord of A8, and as such it wont

> > > > give

> > > > > good results and will give breaks!

> > > > >

> > > > > More importantly, with Sagittarius Lagna, the Bachelors

> > degree is

> > > > > indicated by the 9th lord Sun, who being with Mercury and

> > > > aspected

> > > > > by Mars, will give Engineering (Computer/EE), whereas with

> > > > Capricorn

> > > > > lagna, the 9th lord Mercury with Sun, would tend to give

> > Business

> > > > > Administration!

> > > > >

> > > > > With Saggitarius Lagna, you would have graduated in

> > > > Venus-Jupiter-

> > > > > Venus, which cannot be explained with Capricorn Lagna!

> > > > >

> > > > > -Narayan-

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, kumar p

> > > > > <to.learn.astrology@g...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namasthe,

> > > > > > I am not convinced as to the TOB being 10.06. The reasons

> > are

> > > > as

> > > > > follows. As

> > > > > > you have mentioned earlier the native did had

> > dissapointement

> > > > in a

> > > > > > relationship during that year.

> > > > > > The natal chart lagna of Navamsa moves into Cancer(from

> > Leo).

> > > > The

> > > > > trouble

> > > > > > to relationships seem to better explained with lagna being

> > in

> > > > Leo,

> > > > > because

> > > > > > Jupiter will be the 5th lord,A7 and 8th lord in lagna,

> > Ven-Jup

> > > > was

> > > > > running

> > > > > > during that time according to vimshottari (none of the

> > special

> > > > > dasa systems

> > > > > > apply, so am using vimshottari).

> > > > > > The natal chart lagna of D-24 moves into saggitarius from

> > > > > capricorn. During

> > > > > > the Ven-mars period the native had a great success in

> > > > education(he

> > > > > acheived

> > > > > > a very good rank in a competitive exam). If the lagna is

> > > > capricorn

> > > > > the

> > > > > > rajayoga between 4th and 5th lord (mars and venus resp)

> > makes a

> > > > > lot sense,

> > > > > > whereas in case of saggaitarius I am not able to see any

> > such

> > > > > thing.

> > > > > > Thanks!

> > > > > > Phani

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 11/12/05, kumar p <to.learn.astrology@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namasthe,

> > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your very clear explanation and for your

> > > > time in

> > > > > > > analysing and writing it down). Firstly let me state that

> > I

> > > > am

> > > > > just a novice

> > > > > > > in astrology just beginning to understand the basics.

> > Please

> > > > > pardon me if I

> > > > > > > happen to ask anything silly or make no sense.

> > > > > > > I have now understood the importance of Arudhas. I was

> > under

> > > > the

> > > > > > > impression that Raja Yogas play a role(if not important)

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > outcome of

> > > > > > > what one does. There are few more queries that I have.

> > (All

> > > > > w.r.t to the

> > > > > > > ATP chart not the natal chart)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. why will saturn 5th and 6th lord(being a functional

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Refer "Lessons on Vedic Astrology By P.V.R. Narasimha Rao

Volume I – Lessons 1 to 45 Compiled by The Students of Sri Jagannath

Center-Boston"" for exchange results and from that only i am saying

such rules.

 

Thanks,

S.Venkatesh

 

--- Phanikumar Velaga <itsverysimple wrote:

 

> Namasthe,

>

> I dont know about that rule you are saying. From what I learnt the

> planets being inimical has nothing to do whether parivarthana takes

> place or not(Parivartana always takes place). But the results of

> the

> parivartana vary depending on which houses the planets own, and

> whether they are inimical or not. So in the case that we have venus

> acts as if he is Jupiter in 4th, hence we will have a raja yoga

> between mars and venus.

>

> Thanks

> Phani

>

> On 11/12/05, Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > Dear Phanikumar,

> >

> > My question is Venus and Jupiter is having exchange

> results?

> > since Jupiter satru is Venus.Upto my little knowledge whenever

> the

> > planets are not enimies then only they may have parivarthna

> yoga.

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> > S.Venkatesh

> >

> > --- Phanikumar Velaga <itsverysimple wrote:

> >

> > > Namasthe,

> > > I dont understand what you are asking me to clarify. The

> > > Jupiter-Venus

> > > Exchange in D-24 would imply that Venus will act as 4th lord

> in

> > > 4th. and

> > > hence it will result in rajayoga with mars(5th lord).

> > > In the case of navamsa if lagna is to be taken as cancer,

> then how

> > > can

> > > anthar dasa of jupiter in venus maha dasa cause a

> dissapointment in

> > > relationship? Or will it imply that the anthar dasha(which

> will end

> > > in

> > > another 6 months ) taken as a whole would end in a successful

> > > relationship?

> > >

> > > Hope I have clarified what you wanted. Let me know if i didnt.

> > > Thanks

> > > Phani

> > > On 11/12/05, Venkatesh S <ksvssvk wrote:

> > > >

> > > > |JAI SRIRAM|

> > > > Dear Phanikumar,

> > > >

> > > > Is possible Jupiter-Venus parivarthana since both are

> > > > inimical.Please clarify.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > S.Venkatesh

> > > >

> > > > --- Phanikumar Velaga <itsverysimple wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Namasthe,

> > > > > I agree with you. I forgot about the parivarthana of

> Jupiter

> > > and

> > > > > Venus in

> > > > > D-24. But when you say

> > > > >

> > > > > "With Leo Lagna in natal D9, there is a parivarthana

> > > > > between, Lagna lord and 8th lord, which indicates

> > > disappointment or

> > > > > some sort of unstability, this would be especially

> triggered,

> > > with

> > > > > the advent of Jupiter Antaradasa! "

> > > > > Isnt the above we are looking for in that period? I mean a

> > > > > dissapointment

> > > > > in a relationship(which is what has happened). With cancer

> > > lagna,

> > > > > how can

> > > > > venus-jupiter explain dissapointment or is it possible

> that if

> > > we

> > > > > take the

> > > > > overall period then there will be a successful

> relationship?

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Phani

> > > > > P.S. Accepting cancer as the lagna, if we try to look at

> the

> > > chart

> > > > > with 7th

> > > > > house as lagna(for the natives wife) it will have 2

> planets

> > > venus

> > > > > and

> > > > > mercury in marana karaka sthana, and lagna lord saturn

> goes

> > > into

> > > > > 12th. Does

> > > > > it indicate something bad? If so is there anything that

> can be

> > > > > done?

> > > > >

> > > > > On 11/12/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > namaschandikaayai

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for the feedback!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I disagree! With Leo Lagna in natal D9, there is a

> > > parivarthana

> > > > > > between, Lagna lord and 8th lord, which indicates

> > > disappointment

> > > > > or

> > > > > > some sort of unstability, this would be especially

> triggered,

> > > > > with

> > > > > > the advent of Jupiter Antaradasa! With Cancer lagna,

> both

> > > Venus

> > > > > and

> > > > > > Jupiter have a shubha-kartari on Lagna with the lord of

> A7

> > > Ketu

> > > > > in

> > > > > > it, makes more sense. Further, Navamsa Narayana Dasa at

> the

> > > time

> > > > > was

> > > > > > Scorpio, specifically, the first 1/3rd part, which gives

> the

> > > > > result

> > > > > > of the sign, having both AL & A7, showing relationship,

> > > further,

> > > > > the

> > > > > > benefics, Jupiter & Venus, being in 8th & 10th

> respectively

> > > from

> > > > > AL

> > > > > > & A7, is good.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In D24, there is a parivarthana between Venus & Jupiter,

> > > hence

> > > > > > Jupiter will act as if in Pisces in conjunction with

> Venus,

> > > and

> > > > > > Venus will act as if it is in Libra! With this, we have

> a

> > > > > > conjunction of 4th & 5th lords, with Saggitarius Lagna &

> rd

> > > and

> > > > > 4th

> > > > > > with Capricorn Lagna! Which one do you think is

> correct???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With Capricorn Lagna, Mars is lord of A8, and as such it

> wont

> > > > > give

> > > > > > good results and will give breaks!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > More importantly, with Sagittarius Lagna, the Bachelors

> > > degree is

> > > > > > indicated by the 9th lord Sun, who being with Mercury

> and

> > > > > aspected

> > > > > > by Mars, will give Engineering (Computer/EE), whereas

> with

> > > > > Capricorn

> > > > > > lagna, the 9th lord Mercury with Sun, would tend to give

> > > Business

> > > > > > Administration!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With Saggitarius Lagna, you would have graduated in

> > > > > Venus-Jupiter-

> > > > > > Venus, which cannot be explained with Capricorn Lagna!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -Narayan-

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, kumar p

> > > > > > <to.learn.astrology@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namasthe,

> > > > > > > I am not convinced as to the TOB being 10.06. The

> reasons

> > > are

> > > > > as

> > > > > > follows. As

> > > > > > > you have mentioned earlier the native did had

> > > dissapointement

> > > > > in a

> > > > > > > relationship during that year.

> > > > > > > The natal chart lagna of Navamsa moves into

> Cancer(from

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The answers for you questions are as follows.

 

1. Are you good at mathematics, logic?

 

I wont consider myself pretty good in mathematics, but defenetely not bad

in it. Logic is one of my most interesting things, and am good at it.

2. Any interest in Singing or are you good at playing any instruments or

perhaps administration?

No interest in singing, never tried it nor learnt it. Same with playing any

intstruments, never tried one nor tried learning one. Again the same with

administration, never administered/managed anything of importance, but yes I

feel administration/management comes easily to me.

3. Do you have fine eye for details?

Yes, this is pretty true. Many times I get bogged down when I dont

understand anything properly, or when enough details are not present. I have a

strong penchant for doing anything only after clearly understanding

it.(especially when learning any subject or a technology)

 

 

Now the list of events are as follows.

May-2000: Stood AIR-86 in IITJEE-2000 in may 2000. The exam was written on may

6th, and the result came roughly around may-20th.

July-2000: Joined IITM in July 2000 for CS BTech.

July-2004: Couldnt get the degree owing to attendance problems(well it was not

because I failed in a course but because I didnt had enought attendance in a

particular course.) The actual time of graduation was July-2004, and the

attendance problem was for a course done during July-Dec 2003.

Oct-2003 : Got a job offer towards the end of oct-2003, and another job offer on

dec-13th(approx) 2003.

July-2005 : Graduated in July 2005.(i.e official declaration of the degree)

Sep-2004 - July-2005 : Start and end of a relationship. I dont consider it was

any very serious relationship, but yes I felt a lot of pain. All the pain came

in during Nov-Dec 2004, which is when it all practically ended.

Dec-2004 : Started learning Astrology, tough I dont have a very strong urge to

learn it, I wish to atleast understand the subject some day.

July-2005: Joined my first job on July-15th 2005.

If shall also list some other details in case they would be of help.

Siblings: one younger brother, also graduated in CS from IIT.

Trends : I used to be an average person in acads till about 1996, and from there

onwards I picked up and had a steady growth in academics till 2000 and since

then there is not a single noteworthy performance in academics.

Father : Retired on September-2005, was a bank manager.

Personal traits : I have strong likes, gets addicted easily to whatever I like.

Be it learning something or playing a game, or anything.

Hope that helps, and thanks again for your valuable time.

 

Thanks!

 

Phani.

 

P.S. Sorry for using different mail Ids for the same thing(it was a little

goofup on my side).

On 11/13/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa > wrote:

namaschandikaayaiNamaste,I think it is better if you give the list of events,

which would help us both.Here are a few questions:1. Are you good at

mathematics, logic?2. Any interest in Singing or are you good at playing any

instruments or perhaps administration?3. Do you have fine eye for details?

Answer these and provide the list of events along with the dates, we'll take it

from there.RegardsNarayan

vedic astrology, Phanikumar Velaga <itsverysimple@g...> wrote:>>

Namasthe,> I agree with you. I forgot about the parivarthana of Jupiter and

Venus in> D-24. But when you say

> > "With Leo Lagna in natal D9, there is a parivarthana> between, Lagna lord

and 8th lord, which indicates disappointment or> some sort of unstability, this

would be especially triggered, with

> the advent of Jupiter Antaradasa! "> Isnt the above we are looking for in

that period? I mean a dissapointment> in a relationship(which is what has

happened). With cancer lagna, how can

> venus-jupiter explain dissapointment or is it possible that if we take the>

overall period then there will be a successful relationship?> Thanks> Phani>

P.S. Accepting cancer as the lagna, if we try to look at the chart with 7th>

house as lagna(for the natives wife) it will have 2 planets venus and> mercury

in marana karaka sthana, and lagna lord saturn goes into 12th. Does> it

indicate something bad? If so is there anything that can be done?>

> On 11/12/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:> >> >

namaschandikaayai> >> > Namaste,> >> > Thanks for the feedback!

> >> > I disagree! With Leo Lagna in natal D9, there is a parivarthana> >

between, Lagna lord and 8th lord, which indicates disappointment or> > some

sort of unstability, this would be especially triggered, with> > the advent of

Jupiter Antaradasa! With Cancer lagna, both Venus and> > Jupiter have a

shubha-kartari on Lagna with the lord of A7 Ketu in> > it, makes more sense.

Further, Navamsa Narayana Dasa at the time was> > Scorpio, specifically, the

first 1/3rd part, which gives the result> > of the sign, having both AL & A7,

showing relationship, further, the> > benefics, Jupiter & Venus, being in 8th &

10th respectively from AL> > & A7, is good.> >> > In D24, there is a

parivarthana between Venus & Jupiter, hence> > Jupiter will act as if in Pisces

in conjunction with Venus, and> > Venus will act as if it is in Libra! With

this, we have a

> > conjunction of 4th & 5th lords, with Saggitarius Lagna & rd and 4th> > with

Capricorn Lagna! Which one do you think is correct???> >> > With Capricorn

Lagna, Mars is lord of A8, and as such it wont give> > good results and will

give breaks!> >> > More importantly, with Sagittarius Lagna, the Bachelors

degree is> > indicated by the 9th lord Sun, who being with Mercury and

aspected> > by Mars, will give Engineering (Computer/EE), whereas with

Capricorn> > lagna, the 9th lord Mercury with Sun, would tend to give Business>

> Administration!> >> > With Saggitarius Lagna, you would have graduated in

Venus-

Jupiter-> > Venus, which cannot be explained with Capricorn Lagna!> >> >

-Narayan-> >> >> >

vedic astrology, kumar p> > <to.learn.astrology@g...> wrote:> >

>> > > Namasthe,> > > I am not convinced as to the TOB being 10.06. The reasons

are as> > follows. As> > > you have mentioned earlier the native did had

dissapointement in a> > > relationship during that year.> > > The natal chart

lagna of Navamsa moves into Cancer(from Leo). The> > trouble> > > to

relationships seem to better explained with lagna being in Leo,> > because> > >

Jupiter will be the 5th lord,A7 and 8th lord in lagna, Ven-Jup

was> > running> > > during that time according to vimshottari (none of the

special> > dasa systems> > > apply, so am using vimshottari).> > > The natal

chart lagna of D-24 moves into saggitarius from

> > capricorn. During> > > the Ven-mars period the native had a great success in

education(he> > acheived> > > a very good rank in a competitive exam). If the

lagna is

capricorn> > the> > > rajayoga between 4th and 5th lord (mars and venus resp)

makes a> > lot sense,> > > whereas in case of saggaitarius I am not able to see

any such> > thing.

> > > Thanks!> > > Phani> > >> > > On 11/12/05, kumar p

<to.learn.astrology@g...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Namasthe,> > > > Thanks a lot

for your very clear explanation and for your time in> > > > analysing and

writing it down). Firstly let me state that I am> > just a novice> > > > in

astrology just beginning to understand the basics. Please> > pardon me if I

> > > > happen to ask anything silly or make no sense.> > > > I have now

understood the importance of Arudhas. I was under the> > > > impression that

Raja Yogas play a role(if not important) in the> > outcome of> > > > what one

does. There are few more queries that I have. (All> > w.r.t to the> > > > ATP

chart not the natal chart)> > > >

> > > > 1. why will saturn 5th and 6th lord(being a functional> > benific lord)>

> > > in navamsa show dissapointment in relationships? Is it> > because of his

role> > > > in rasi chart and being the hora lord? Or is it merely

> > because he is the 6th> > > > lord?> > > > 2. why is the exhange between rahu

and mars bad? (considering> > they> > > > are lords of 9th and 7th resp.) Is it

that exchage of enemies

> > is not good?> > > >> > > > Thanks> > > > Kumar P.> > > >> > > >> > > > On

11/12/05, naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g

....> wrote:> > > >> > > > > namaschandikaayai> > > > >> > > > > Dear Kumar,> > >

> >> > > > > Let me add a caveat here: The position of ATP Lagna in 8th from> >

> > > Natal Lagna doesnt spell doom all the time! The 8th house also> > > > >

signifies hard work and upaasana. Lets assume, if the ATP D24> > lagna> > > > >

had indeed been Saggitarius, with all its positive indication,> > it> > > > >

would have given success after lot of hard work!> > > > >> > > > > Please also

note, that Saturn the hora lord is Retrograde

> > having lot> > > > > of chesta bala, and in 6th from natal lagna, and in 12th

in> > D24,> > > > > indicates that the native did work hard, but met with

failure!

> > > > >> > > > > Incidentally, the trouble maker, Mercury in D24 is also lord>

> of A7> > > > > in ATP rashi, and in 6th house in ATP Navamsa!> > > > >

> > > > > Regards> > > > > -Narayan-> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >

vedic astrology, "naaraayana_iyer"> > > > > <jaimini.upadesa@g

....> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > namaschandikaayai> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Kumar,> > > > > >> > > > > > [ Please Note: I feel the

birthtime should be pushed back by> > > > > atleast> > > > > > 6 minutes, the

time I am using for your information is 10:06]> > > > > >> > > > > > We do use

the natal chart to judge the Annual Tithi Pravesha> > > > > chart.> > > > > >

The ATP chart for 2003 has Leo rising, which is in the 8th> > house> > > > > >

from your natal chart. This is not auspicious and generally> > shows> > > > > >

some kind of disappointment.> > > > > >

> > > > > > The Hora Lord is Saturn, which in your ATP, is in the 8th> > from> >

> > > your> > > > > > natal moon forming kantaka shani which adds to the above

> > mentioned> > > > > > position of ATP lagna w.r.t Natal lagna!> > > > > >> >

> > > > Saturn is the 6th and 7th lord in the 11th house in Gemini,

> > hence> > > > > a> > > > > > functional malefic, and the same Saturn happens

to be the> > Lagna> > > > > lord> > > > > > in your natal chart. This is not a

good indication and is a> > result> > > > > > of ATP lagna in dusthana from

Natal lagna.> > > > > >> > > > > > Also, note that in ATP, Saturn is in A7 in

Gemini [ also

> > known as> > > > > > Mithuna (Maithuna) the sign signifying sex &

relationship and> > > > > > symbolized by a couple in embrace], which is not

good from

> > the> > > > > point> > > > > > of view of relationship(s)! Further, Saturn,

being the 5th> > and 6th> > > > > > lord in Navamsa is in 7th house, showing

some problems and> > > > > > disppointment in relationship with the opposite

sex during> > that> > > > > year.> > > > > > Most importantly, Saturn is the

lord of Mrityu Pada (A8) in> > ATP> > > > > > Rashi, which shows manifestation

of disappointments and> > dejections.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now, lets move to

D24:

> > > > > >> > > > > > With the new time, we have Scorpio rising. With the old>

> time, we> > > > > had> > > > > > Saggitarius rising, with 9th lord in lagna,

and Saturn as

> > lord of> > > > > > AL, should have given you success in education, which did

not> > > > > happen!> > > > > >> > > > > > With Scoroio rising, we have

badhakesh Moon in Lagna, showing> > > > > > disturbance in education. Usually

when badhakesh interferes,> > the> > > > > > reasons are not clear and

inexplicable! This explains> > disturbance

> > > > > in> > > > > > education. Further, note, that badhakesh is not really

weak,> > as it> > > > > > gets neechabhanga, with the position of Mars in

kendra from> > Lagna> > > > > > and Moon! So, this badhakesh is strong!

Interestingly, it is> > the> > > > > > Lagna lord giving strength to badhakesh,

indicating, the

> > native> > > > > has> > > > > > himself to blame, and in rasi chart, this

Mars is in Marana> > Karaka> > > > > > Sthana in the 7th house of

relationships, in a sign ruled by> > > > > Saturn,> > > > > > the hora lord!> >

> > > >> > > > > > Next, we note that the 5th lord in Chaturvimsamsa is> >

debilitated

> > > > > and> > > > > > is forming a dur-yoga with the 8th lord Mercury, and

in> > Marana> > > > > > Karaka Sthana, all indicating the natives antipathy

towards> > > > > > education! This combination also happens to aspect the 12th>

> from> > > > > AL,> > > > > > indicating loss of status or image, or simply

put, failure.> > Look> > > > > for> > > > > > periods of Jupiter & Mercury,

especially Mercury as it gives> > the> > > > > > result of Jupiter.

> > > > > >> > > > > > Next, analyze hora lord, Saturn. For higher education,

like> > > > > > bachelors degree, consider the 9th house. Look at A9, to see> >

> > > success> > > > > > or failure. Here A9 is in Pisces, with Jupiter as its

lord,> > whose> > > > > > avastha we have already examined, further, Saturn the

hora> > lord is> > > > > in> > > > > > 2nd from a AL, thereby ruining it!> > > >

> >> > > > > > Regarding your questions on raja yoga, please note that the> >

same,> > > > > > Mars is having a parivarthana with Rahu, this is definitely> >

not> > > > > > good! Further, Mars is also the badhakesh in rasi ATP. The> >

raja> > > > > > yoga, shows what your actions are, and what the native does,> >

to> > > > > > analyze the result, always use the Arudha! I gave a

> > presentation> > > > > on> > > > > > this topic at the Boston Conference this

year, which is> > available> > > > > > free for download. Do consider listening

to it.

> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > -Narayan-> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >

> >> > > > > > vedic astrology , kumar p> > > > > >

<to.learn.astrology@g

....> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi all,> > > > > > > I am looking for help

on analysis of a particular Annual> > Tithi> > > > > > Pravesha

> > > > > > > Chart. The following is the discription of the same.> > Assume

that> > > > > > the birth> > > > > > > time is of reasonable accuracy.

> > > > > > > Annual TP> > > > > > >> > > > > > > November 24, 2003> > > >

> > > Time: 0:55:41> > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > > Place: 80 E 27' 00", 16 N 18' 00"> > > > > > > Guntur, India> > >

> > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Subhanu - Karthika> > > > > > > Tithi: Amavasya (Ra)

(17.61% left)> > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)> > > > > > > Nakshatra:

Anuraadha (Sa) ( 86.99% left)> > > > > > > Yoga: Atiganda (Mo) (58.14% left)> >

> > > > > Karana: Naga (Sa) (35.22% left)> > > > > > > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min

sign: Le)

> > > > > > > Mahakala Hora: Saturn (5 min sign: Li)> > > > > > > Kaala Lord:

Sun (Mahakala: Sun)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:19:07 (November 23)

> > > > > > > Sunset: 17:29:40 (November 23)> > > > > > > Janma Ghatis: 46.5236>

> > > > > >> > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-54-27.76

> > > > > > > Sidereal Time: 4:56:54> > > > > > >> > > > > > >

+--------------+> > > > > > > | |Ra |HL |SaR

Gk |

> > > > > > > | | | | |> > > > > > > | | | | |> > > > > > > | | | | |> > > > > >

> | | | | |> > > > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> > > > > > > |Ma | |Md |> > > > > > > | | | |> > > > > > > | | | |> > > > > > >

| | | |> > > > > > > | | | |

> > > > > > > |-----------| Rasi |-----------|> > > > > > > | | |As Ju |> > > >

> > > | | | |> > > > > > > | | | |> > > > > > > | | | |

> > > > > > > | | | |> > > > > > >

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > > > > > |Ve |Su Mo |Ke

|GL |> > > > > > > | |Me AL | | |

> > > > > > > | | | | |> > > > > > > | | | | |> > > > > > > | | | | |> > > > > >

> +--------------+

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > +--------------+> >

> > > > > | |Ra Ke | | |> > > > > > > | | | | |

> > > > > > > | | | | |> > > > > > > | | | | |> > > > > > > | | | | |> > > > > >

> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> > > > > > > |Ma HL | | |> > > > > > > |AL | | |> > > > > > > | | | |> > > > >

> > | | | |> > > > > > > | | Siddhamsa | |

> > > > > > > |-----------| |-----------|> > > > > > > |Me Ju | D-24 | |> > > >

> > > |Gk | | |> > > > > > > | | | |> > > > > > > | | | |

> > > > > > > | | | |> > > > > > >

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> > > > > > > |As Su |Mo |SaR

|Ve Md |> > > > > > > |GL | | | |

> > > > > > > | | | | |> > > > > > > | | | | |> > > > > > > | | | | |> > > > > >

> +--------------+

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > During the year of the ATP(i.e the year following Nov

23rd> > 2003)> > > > > > the native> > > > > > > had a break in education. He is

expected to complete his> > BTech> > > > > in> > > > > > that year> > > > > > >

but was not able to complete it, and completed it the> > following> > > > > >

year.

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now the question is how can we explain the break in>

> education> > > > > just> > > > > > by using

> > > > > > > the ATP alone. Is it because> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. Mars

(4th Lord in Rasi) is in marana karaka sthana(7th)> > and

> > > > > > > 2. Jupiter, lagna and 4th lord is debilitated in D-24.> > > > > >

>> > > > > > > What woud other positive points (given below) indicate?

> > Wont> > > > > they> > > > > > play any> > > > > > > role which indicate the

chances for the break in education> > is> > > > > very

> > > > > > less> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. Raja Yoga between Mars(Yogakaraka)

and Jupiter(5th Lord)> > > > > in> > > > > > Rasi

> > > > > > > 2. The 4th House in rasi has Sun,Moon, Mercury> > (1st,12th,2nd> >

> > > > and 11th> > > > > > > lords) is this a bad indication for 4th house?

> > > > > > > 3. Raja Yoga between Jupiter and Mercury in D-24> > (1st,4th,7th>

> > > > > and 10th> > > > > > > lords)> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I would like to know if ATP alone explains the event. If> > not> >

> > > then> > > > > > I shall> > > > > > > post the birth details in the next

mail.

> > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > kumar P.> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > >

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