Narasimha Rao appreciation - Renaissance - KN Rao & his students

November 10, 2005

om namo bhagavate vasudevayaDear Chandrasekhar

What I have said about K N Rao is not at all odd and is very very sweet compared

to what KN Rao has said for years about the real father figure Dr Raman and

PUBLISHED about so many vedic astrologers in India and abroad. What I said was

the truth when I said that he went to look for 'books under his bed'. Rohini

Ranjan and other astrologers were also there in that Majordomo list. Has Sri

Rao found those books from under the bed by now or is he still looking?

I will be the first to withdraw my statements about him if he publicly

apologizes for what he has said about Dr Raman.

I have given all the answers to Sri Surya Rao and have asked him to demonstrate

how he uses the saptamsa varga...he chose to leave. If he wishes to continue

his debate with me in any other forum, I shall be most willing to continue. Can

you check with the Jyotish List moderator if they want me there to continue the

debate?

Do not ever be any any wrong impression that I am leaving. I may be slow, I may

be bogged down with work, but I will never say die when it comes to standing up

for Parasara and Vyasadeva. Please ask Sri Surya Rao to give the answer to the

questions I have listed.

Jaya Jagannath Krishna!

With best wishes and warm regards,Sanjay Rath* * *Sri Jagannath Center®15B

Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, Indiahttp://srath.com,

+91-11-25717162* * *

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Chandra Sekhar

vedic astrology

Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:23 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Narasimha Rao appreciation - Renaissance - KN

Rao & his students

Dear Shree Rao,

Iam happy that you recognize the services of Sri KN Rao and has openely

expressed appreciation for him. I am writing this because just two days before,

when Mr. Rath snubbed Shree Shreenadh, he had made a derogatory remark like 'Are

you a student of KN Rao?' pointing to that there is something wrong with KN Rao

and his students. Such language against a father figure of astrology from

another Guru sounds very odd. As you said humility is one quality everyone must

develop. In your previous mail you have explained the discipline expected but it

is my personal feeling that asking somebody to have the homework correctly or

not to ask silly question is not a very offensive thing if you see your own

Guruji's words with which he guided/snubbed Shree Shreenadhji.

Your role as a moderator and starter and thus the owner of the group is

justified but at the same time you should have given a better treatment to

Shree Surya who had made some brilliant postings to which neither you nor your

Guruji had no answer. So it may look as if you and Narayana Iyer deliberately

intervented to create a conflict and insult the man for the offence of

challenging your wisdom. The man who raised impertinent question should also

have been humble enough not to stray into an area where Paramguru was engaged

in discussion. So even though you say there is a level playing field, it looks

as if you have gunned another abhimanyu by orchestrated effort to avoid

inconvenient questions that exposed the intellectual bankruptcy of your

guru-brigade and its captain. After all it is your group and it is your

discretion to run it in any manner you like. I must thank you for appreciating

Shree KN Rao whom your Paramaguru had made something like a "bad character" in

his mail.

With warm regards,

Chandrasekhar

"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear Ranjan,

Thanks for the thoughts. Just a couple of quick thoughts based on my personal views.

The field of Jyotish is undergoing a transformation for sometime now. Sri KN Rao

brought one wave of revolution in 1990's. He kicked off the long process of

renaissance. Now, a lot of hidden knowledge is coming out and people are

seriously discussing BPHS, Jaimini Sutram etc. As I see it, the next quantum

leap that is an integral part of the ongoing Jyotish renaissance started a few

years back. As a part of this, some good knowledge and some bad knowledge

becomes common place. Some people try to resist the change. Some people try to

change its direction. People start thinking about the basic issues.

Several schools of thought are entering the chruning for Truth, which will

continue for 2-3 decades to come. They will all contribute to the on-going

process of renaissance. During the transformation time, this will seem like

chaos. But this is quite necessary for Truth to come out. Various brawls we see

on various Jyotish lists from time to time are a sign of just this.

Some people have a scholarly and mature way of dealing with this chaos and

contributing to the churning process. Some hot-blooded people unfortunately get

carried away and become impatient and violent. That's unfortunate, but they too

will learn with experience. I too was hot-blooded. First I learnt faking

humility. Then it slowly changed into genuine humility within myself. If I

could change, anybody could.

But I am confident that a lot of genuine and correct knowledge will come out of

all this churning in the next 20-30 years. I am quite confident of that.

To see the evolution of Jyotish knowledge in society, look at Jupiter-Ketu

conjunctions. Study the rasi and chaturvimsamsa in which they occurred in the

last several decades!

I predict that 2020-2026 will be a period when the floodgates of Jyotish

knowledge will open. Just as I finished writing this line, there was huge

lightening outside the window on the east and a really really bright light and

a thunder too. I take it as a favorable omen for what I wrote...

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

-------------------------------

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

-------------------------------

> Dear Akashji/avbhat2005ji,> > Since the moderators have not expunged your

message as you wrongly > feared I am tempted to probe a bit further regarding

your > observations. Just to clear the air, first, I am not associated with >

SJC in any way, other than admiring the work done by some of its > members and

senior representatives, some of whose work goes back to > the best of my

understanding before they were associated with SJC, > indeed perhpas from even

before SJC was formed (some I know since mid > nineties).> > Why do you think

this phenomenon of so much repressed anger coming > out over the last couple of

months or so, not just on this list but > several other jyotish lists? I also

follow a few non-jyotish lists > (mostly science related) and there is no

similar phenomenon there. So > we cannot blame it on mars or jupiter or

whatever else is happening > in transits. Yet it is curious that it is

affecting jyotishis, but > not others, including western astrologers (though I

sample more > jyotishis than tropical astrologers so could be a sampling

bias).> > Why, dear fellow-astrologers??> > RR> > > --- In

vedic astrology, "baksh5" <avbhat2005> > wrote:> >> > Om

Namh! Shivaya!> > > > Respected and Learned members of this group.> > > >

Moderators you are free to expunge this message. > > > > I have been observing

for quite some time the nature and pattern of > > discussions happening in this

group. Excellent discussions are > > happening w.r.t Vargas/Divisional charts,

Sandhi shanti etc... > which > > is helping students like me in the field of

astrology.> > > > But the disturbing point what I noticed is, when certain

pointed > > questions are asked, the responders ( can be SJC Guru or anybody >

> else) take a defensive attitude and always take the step of exit > > from the

discussion or the group.> > > > The latest instance of such a case is from Sri

Ramadoss. Everybody > > knows he is a well respected and a learned

scholar/astrologer. So > as > > soon as a person asks a detail about Sandhi

Shanti, Sri Ramadoss > > says he is turning to spirituality and leaving

Jyotisha. It may be > a > > personal choice for Sri Ramadoss, but the timing

seemed a bit > > inappropriate for me.> > > > Another instance is of Mr. Surya

Rao. He also seems to be a great > > scholar of astrology but his latest

outbursts against Sri. PVR > > seemed unwarranted. This is not my call. But I

felt it was > > unnecessary.> > > > Another instance is of Mr.Partha who being

a SJC guru left his > group > > in a huff!.> > > > Another instance is of Mr.

Utpal. He was having very good > > discussions but suddenly felt that he needs

to leave this group and > > pursue his other matters.> > > > In all this I felt

Sri. Rath and Sri. PVR, Pradeep, Sreenadh and > > couple of other learned

members stood their ground and tried to > > clarify the doubts raised and

presented their thoughts.> > > > This is an open forum and has the biggest

disadvantage that un-> > identified people can come and say whatever derogatory

remarks they > > want and scoot without any remorse.> > > > The only point I

would like to make is, "Students like me are > > missing the learnings/gyan of

astrology in this forum due to exit > of > > gurus/scholars from this group".

An earnest request to all is to > > continue with the great discussions and

predictions being given in > > this forum from one and all.> > > > With

Regards> > /Akash..

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November 10, 2005

Dear Mr.Rath,

I should answer your first mail addressed to me, before we start a

conversation. I appealed you to review the comments, but you didn't.

Therefore, presuming your silence as a permission I am into that

task.

> Don't make cheap remarks.

Perhaps - It comes from prejudice of all knowingness!

> Learn to give respect and take > respect.

Respect should come naturally, and as you are projecting yourself

as a guru, you should know it better than me. I am neither a sishya

to you nor a guru. We can utmost be friends or not, let the time

decide.

> and talk straight.

If you knew that, you don't have made such statements and would have

started a scholarly discussion on the topic at hand. But instead you

are trying to agitate

the opponent, twist the subject of discussion, and thus trying to

escape from facing the real questions!

> you sound like K N Rao. > Are you his student?

Well, it is dream to be compared to Mr. K. N. Rao. Thanks for you

compliment. There might be several students of KN Rao posting in

this list, or reading these mails. Try to respect them !!!

[To those who don't know who is Mr.K N Rao, here is a small note: Mr.

K.N. Rao was a former Auditor General of India, retired in 1990 and is

attributed to have single handedly revived the astrology in Northern

India. 80% of Astrologers of today owe their knowledge base to him.

He fought a case in Supreme Court of India, when UGC introduced

astrology as subject in Indian Universities, which was opposed by few

and a case was filed in Supreme Court. Mr. K.N. Rao later

demonstrated the "super science " called astrology in the Court, and

won the case. None of the so called proponents of astrology even

when placed in New Delhi, did not attend or contribute to this legal

fight. see the top postings on his website www.journalofastrology.

com]

Only thing I know about you is that once you asked for some data

about the researches of Chandra Hari on Ayanamsa to me, and when I

send it to you, you never even bothered to say a Thanks !!! That is

my first hand impression about you.

It is a feeling of great pride when people ask one's Guru - for "such

question" is often raised in last, by the persons who reached a

logical blind end !!! ( It is also considered as a acknowledgement of

a worthy disciple of a Guru !!! )

The name of my Guru may not be known to you, because he is not an

Internet buddy - his name is "Raghavan Nambyar". [if I want to

boast, I can put it like this: Raghavan Nambyar is the direct sishya

of V P K Pothuval, the famous ephemeris creator of Kerala. I have

several gurus in various subjects of astrology, and one of them the

current scholar member of Edakkade Kokkaniyal family.

If you don't know, Kokkaniyal is the prime disciple of Edakkade

Namboothiri who wrote Presnamarga. So I could say that my Guru

parampara goes up to Presnamargacharya. Now this Kokkaniyal was a

sishya of Pazhoor Mana, where Thalakkulathu Bhattathiri, who wrote

the Desadhyayi Bhashya of Varaha Hora lived. If you don't know about

Desadhyayi, then take Presnamarga and read its first chapter. You

will know how much importance Presnamargacharya gives to Desadhyayi

and Krishneeyam.

So come to the ground, and let us talk about the subject under

discussion as two normal people. ( As for the Guru lineage is

concerned technically, I am better placed !! ) I appreciate Mr. PVR

for his contribution inspite of being "in heat of discussions" and

for his astro_product JHC resulting growth of astrology, and because

of the fact that he gave the result of his hard work (JHora

software) free to the world. I know that he is sincere to the subject

he is indulged in. He puts his technical differences with others

including you in a polite manner, since he considers you as his

Guru, and guru ninda is considered a sin according to Indian

tradition. But remember you are neither my guru and nor I am yours.

So let us speak like two common individuals who are after the de-

mystifying the elements constituting astrology.

PVR's goodness act "might" have indirectly helped the cause of SJC or

its other SJC-Guru's. Let us talk about the subject in hand like:

two sincere seekers of knowledge and the system of astrology, who

are willing to share the little knowledge they have. You are just

like any other member of the forum, as far as I am concerned, and

treat me the same. If my mail sounds rude, then it was asked for.

Forget these 2 mails and let us start the discussion. And there also

I am interested to talk to you if only it is a debate where both

would accept logically correct arguments without prejudice. If one is

stubborn and wants to prove that he is right, even when it becomes

revealed to others that he is wrong, then I am not interested to enter

into controversies.. Now If you are interested to proceed, then let

us humbly approach the arguments and astrology systematically, and

let us try to draw some conclusions - if at all possible. Let us

accept that there might be several areas in this vast subject, where

my or your knowledge won't be enough to reveal the possibilities and

truths of the original system. But let us try to understand what we

can.

Finally, we agree to agree or agree to disagree or disagree to

disagree !!! I instinctively extend my hand of friendship (our

mutual common bond between us i.e. Astrology ) - to accept or reject

is your prerogative !!

Love,

Sreenadh

> "Sanjay Rath" <guruji

> Mon Nov 7, 2005 11:26 pm

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Transits in Varga

> charts sanjayrath

> om namo bhagavate vasudevaya

> Sreenadh

> Don't make cheap remarks. Learn to give respect and

> take respect and talk straight -

> you sound like K N Rao.

> Are you his student?

> With best wishes and warm regards,

> Sanjay Rath

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <guruji@s...>

wrote:

>

> om namo bhagavate vasudevaya

> Dear Chandrasekhar

> What I have said about K N Rao is not at all odd and is very very

sweet compared to what KN Rao has said for years about the real father

figure Dr Raman and PUBLISHED about so many vedic astrologers in India

and abroad. What I said was the truth when I said that he went to look

for 'books under his bed'. Rohini Ranjan and other astrologers were

also there in that Majordomo list. Has Sri Rao found those books from

under the bed by now or is he still looking?

> I will be the first to withdraw my statements about him if he

publicly apologizes for what he has said about Dr Raman.

>

> I have given all the answers to Sri Surya Rao and have asked him to

demonstrate how he uses the saptamsa varga...he chose to leave. If he

wishes to continue his debate with me in any other forum, I shall be

most willing to continue. Can you check with the Jyotish List

moderator if they want me there to continue the debate?

>

> Do not ever be any any wrong impression that I am leaving. I may be

slow, I may be bogged down with work, but I will never say die when it

comes to standing up for Parasara and Vyasadeva. Please ask Sri Surya

Rao to give the answer to the questions I have listed.

>

> Jaya Jagannath Krishna!

>

> With best wishes and warm regards,

> Sanjay Rath

> * * *

> Sri Jagannath Center®

> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road

> New Delhi 110060, India

> http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162

> * * *

> -

> Chandra Sekhar

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:23 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Narasimha Rao appreciation -

Renaissance - KN Rao & his students

>

> Dear Shree Rao,

>

> Iam happy that you recognize the services of Sri KN Rao and has

openely expressed appreciation for him. I am writing this because just

two days before, when Mr. Rath snubbed Shree Shreenadh, he had made a

derogatory remark like 'Are you a student of KN Rao?' pointing to that

there is something wrong with KN Rao and his students. Such language

against a father figure of astrology from another Guru sounds very

odd. As you said humility is one quality everyone must develop. In

your previous mail you have explained the discipline expected but it

is my personal feeling that asking somebody to have the homework

correctly or not to ask silly question is not a very offensive thing

if you see your own Guruji's words with which he guided/snubbed Shree

Shreenadhji.

>

> Your role as a moderator and starter and thus the owner of the

group is justified but at the same time you should have given a better

treatment to Shree Surya who had made some brilliant postings to which

neither you nor your Guruji had no answer. So it may look as if you

and Narayana Iyer deliberately intervented to create a conflict and

insult the man for the offence of challenging your wisdom. The man who

raised impertinent question should also have been humble enough not to

stray into an area where Paramguru was engaged in discussion. So even

though you say there is a level playing field, it looks as if you have

gunned another abhimanyu by orchestrated effort to avoid inconvenient

questions that exposed the intellectual bankruptcy of your guru-

brigade and its captain. After all it is your group and it is your

discretion to run it in any manner you like. I must thank you for

appreciating Shree KN Rao whom your Paramaguru had made something like

a "bad character" in his mail.

>

> With warm regards,

> Chandrasekhar

>

"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote:

> Dear Ranjan,

>

> Thanks for the thoughts. Just a couple of quick thoughts based

on my personal views.

>

> The field of Jyotish is undergoing a transformation for sometime

now. Sri KN Rao brought one wave of revolution in 1990's. He kicked

off the long process of renaissance. Now, a lot of hidden knowledge is

coming out and people are seriously discussing BPHS, Jaimini Sutram

etc. As I see it, the next quantum leap that is an integral part of

the ongoing Jyotish renaissance started a few years back. As a part of

this, some good knowledge and some bad knowledge becomes common place.

Some people try to resist the change. Some people try to change its

direction. People start thinking about the basic issues.

>

> Several schools of thought are entering the chruning for Truth,

which will continue for 2-3 decades to come. They will all contribute

to the on-going process of renaissance. During the transformation

time, this will seem like chaos. But this is quite necessary for Truth

to come out. Various brawls we see on various Jyotish lists from time

to time are a sign of just this.

>

> Some people have a scholarly and mature way of dealing with this

chaos and contributing to the churning process. Some hot-blooded

people unfortunately get carried away and become impatient and

violent. That's unfortunate, but they too will learn with experience.

I too was hot-blooded. First I learnt faking humility. Then it slowly

changed into genuine humility within myself. If I could change,

anybody could.

>

> But I am confident that a lot of genuine and correct knowledge

will come out of all this churning in the next 20-30 years. I am quite

confident of that.

>

> To see the evolution of Jyotish knowledge in society, look at

Jupiter-Ketu conjunctions. Study the rasi and chaturvimsamsa in which

they occurred in the last several decades!

>

> I predict that 2020-2026 will be a period when the floodgates of

Jyotish knowledge will open. Just as I finished writing this line,

there was huge lightening outside the window on the east and a really

really bright light and a thunder too. I take it as a favorable omen

for what I wrote...

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

> -------------------------------

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> -------------------------------

>

> > Dear Akashji/avbhat2005ji,

> >

> > Since the moderators have not expunged your message as you

wrongly

> > feared I am tempted to probe a bit further regarding your

> > observations. Just to clear the air, first, I am not

associated with

> > SJC in any way, other than admiring the work done by some of

its

> > members and senior representatives, some of whose work goes

back to

> > the best of my understanding before they were associated with

SJC,

> > indeed perhpas from even before SJC was formed (some I know

since mid

> > nineties).

> >

> > Why do you think this phenomenon of so much repressed anger

coming

> > out over the last couple of months or so, not just on this

list but

> > several other jyotish lists? I also follow a few non-jyotish

lists

> > (mostly science related) and there is no similar phenomenon

there. So

> > we cannot blame it on mars or jupiter or whatever else is

happening

> > in transits. Yet it is curious that it is affecting jyotishis,

but

> > not others, including western astrologers (though I sample

more

> > jyotishis than tropical astrologers so could be a sampling

bias).

> >

> > Why, dear fellow-astrologers??

> >

> > RR

> >

> > vedic astrology, "baksh5"

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Namh! Shivaya!

> > >

> > > Respected and Learned members of this group.

> > >

> > > Moderators you are free to expunge this message.

> > >

> > > I have been observing for quite some time the nature and

pattern of

> > > discussions happening in this group. Excellent discussions

are

> > > happening w.r.t Vargas/Divisional charts, Sandhi shanti etc

....

> > which

> > > is helping students like me in the field of astrology.

> > >

> > > But the disturbing point what I noticed is, when certain

pointed

> > > questions are asked, the responders ( can be SJC Guru or

anybody

> > > else) take a defensive attitude and always take the step of

exit

> > > from the discussion or the group.

> > >

> > > The latest instance of such a case is from Sri Ramadoss.

Everybody

> > > knows he is a well respected and a learned scholar/

astrologer. So

> > as

> > > soon as a person asks a detail about Sandhi Shanti, Sri

Ramadoss

> > > says he is turning to spirituality and leaving Jyotisha. It

may be

> > a

> > > personal choice for Sri Ramadoss, but the timing seemed a

bit

> > > inappropriate for me.

> > >

> > > Another instance is of Mr. Surya Rao. He also seems to be a

great

> > > scholar of astrology but his latest outbursts against Sri.

PVR

> > > seemed unwarranted. This is not my call. But I felt it was

> > > unnecessary.

> > >

> > > Another instance is of Mr.Partha who being a SJC guru left

his

> > group

> > > in a huff!.

> > >

> > > Another instance is of Mr. Utpal. He was having very good

> > > discussions but suddenly felt that he needs to leave this

group and

> > > pursue his other matters.

> > >

> > > In all this I felt Sri. Rath and Sri. PVR, Pradeep, Sreenadh

and

> > > couple of other learned members stood their ground and tried

to

> > > clarify the doubts raised and presented their thoughts.

> > >

> > > This is an open forum and has the biggest disadvantage that

un-

> > > identified people can come and say whatever derogatory

remarks they

> > > want and scoot without any remorse.

> > >

> > > The only point I would like to make is, "Students like me

are

> > > missing the learnings/gyan of astrology in this forum due to

exit

> > of

> > > gurus/scholars from this group". An earnest request to all

is to

> > > continue with the great discussions and predictions being

given in

> > > this forum from one and all.

> > >

> > > With Regards

> > > /Akash..

>

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November 10, 2005

Dear PVR,

If you feel like taking action against someone, you should take

action against this person :RATH: who writes such words to a decent

member Lokesh:

> You can fall at his feet at that is your funeral.

> it was your choise to write this nasty mail,

> so I have replied and wasted another 15 minutes on another man

> who didn't deserve this time.

I can't see any decency, manners or diplomacy in such sentences!!!

Still this man is boasting that "I am one of the Gurus of Narasimha.."

and so and so!!!!

You said to me: "If you feel that somebody is behaving arrogantly and

insulting others in an astrological discussion, please send a mail to

vedic astrology-owner with the offensive mail and a

description of exactly what offended you."

I am providing that web-address here again for others to send such

mails to you. If you are sincere 'take action' !!!!

Love,

Sreenadh

> Sanjay Rath <guruji@s...> wrote:

>

> om namo bhagavate vasudevaya

> Lokesh

>

> Very sorry that you have also tried to jump into the fray but I will

be the spokesperson for a person who is no longer in his body and

whose kind words encouraged meto come out of my little orissa world

and teach jyotish.

>

> Have you checked how much he was charging when in the US? Why don't

you write to ACVA to find out what he was up to?

>

> You can fall at his feet at that is your funeral. I will always

stand by Dr Raman - whether yesterday, today or tomorrow. I don't want

your regard nor that of anyone who has anything to do with KN Rao.

That man is the greatest slur that has happened to Vedic Astrology and

his back stabbing of Dr Raman shall be remembered by astrologers for

many many years to come.

>

> You, Chandrasekhar and others can write whatever you want, but I am

unflinching in this for I cannot forget those few words that Dr Raman

wrote as a blessing when he published my first article in the

Astrological Magazine. I will stand by him whether he be in his body

or not.

>

> This shall be my last mail on this topic, and I am one of the Gurus

of Narasimha and the others are Dr Raman and his father. He has a

habitof being pleasant and organises this list - I can be unpleasant

with some sometimes. And it was your choise to write this nasty mail,

so I have replied and wasted another 15 minutes on another man who

didn't deserve this time.

>

> With best wishes and warm regards,

> Sanjay Rath

> * * *

> Sri Jagannath Center®

> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road

> New Delhi 110060, India

> http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162

> * * *

> -

> Lokesh Khosla

> vedic astrology

> Friday, November 11, 2005 8:25 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Narasimha Rao appreciation -

Renaissance - KN Rao & his students

>

> Mr Rath,

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> Are you spokesperson of Dr Raman.? I am not only suprised at your

comments but also sense a feeling of jealousy of Mr Rao's success. KN

Rao is not only a legend but also a gentleman. I will give you many

examples and the prime is the NIS_SWARTH commitment towards astrology.

You have no reason to ask for apologise for anyone. If Mr Rao has said

something about Dr Raman, he has done it professionally and backed it

up with technical reason. At the same time you and lot of your

students who will not give PREDICTIONS and not even stand by it.

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> On this list I have met Mr Narsimha personally and have great

respect for him and when I came to know you were his guru I held you

in high regards too . After this email I have no regards for a person

who is trying to be vindictive and trying to get back to another

person. That is like 2 yrs old.

> Secondly, I do respect Mr Rao because I have met him personally, not

only he has given predictions , he stood behind them and also look at

his commitment, he could have made millions on astrology if he wanted

to. Have you looked at horoscopes of individuals and given predictions

and Stood by it and that too without any monetary involvement from

anyone? Donot bring up here that there is a need to have money in

astrology to make it professional. That's totally absurd which I hear

from money making astrologers.

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> Please be humble and look at your own concious before making such

bold statements and that too about someone who has proven time and

again that "THERE IS NO BETTER ASTROLOGER THAN MR KN RAO".

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> Regards