Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Respected Astrologers, I would like to bring forward a case of my friend who is presently going through a bad phase of his life and needs some help, as to what is good for him and his family. The problem have been with his career, which have always been on highs and lows and never constant to top it up it have been in various countries. Just before it looks it is getting settled down for him at one place, he is kicked out even after giving good performance as a sales person. Recently once again he lost his job 2 months ago. His question is: Will I be going out of India again? Will I ever have a stable job and whether in India or Abroad? Date of birth for him and his wife are as below. Please help this person, as he is in deep depression and needs some help to resolve the above 2 questions. Male: DOB 16 th may 1969 b) Time 8.25AM. c) Place Ambala City, Punjab Female: DOB - 14th september 1974 - b) Time -20.20 PM c) Place – Dehradun, UP I look forward to getting your expert comments on this. Thanks…Sundeep FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 I was still waiting for someone to come forward. The person in question, badly needs some advice. So, Please help. Thanks....SundeepSundeep Babbar <sundeep_babbar > wrote: Respected Astrologers, I would like to bring forward a case of my friend who is presently going through a bad phase of his life and needs some help, as to what is good for him and his family. The problem have been with his career, which have always been on highs and lows and never constant to top it up it have been in various countries. Just before it looks it is getting settled down for him at one place, he is kicked out even after giving good performance as a sales person. Recently once again he lost his job 2 months ago. His question is: Will I be going out of India again? Will I ever have a stable job and whether in India or Abroad? Date of birth for him and his wife are as below. Please help this person, as he is in deep depression and needs some help to resolve the above 2 questions. Male: DOB 16 th may 1969 b) Time 8.25AM. c) Place Ambala City, Punjab Female: DOB - 14th september 1974 - b) Time -20.20 PM c) Place – Dehradun, UP I look forward to getting your expert comments on this. Thanks…Sundeep FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Dear Sundeep, I am probably going to get in trouble (perhaps more from members than moderators, I hope!) for writing this but I will, anyway! I have been seeing a lot of 'urgent' requests on several groups recently, maybe I am just noticing those more recently and they have been there since Mandhata's times! Like their medical/surgical counterparts, internet consultations have limitations! I know professional consultations can be expensive and even not cost- effective from the viewpoint and earthly perspectives of individuals who approach an astrologer with a 'sales' and "bargains" mentality that plagues the modern mind (how much can I cream out of this transaction mentality)-- and some astrologers probably are responsible for promoting that. Mind you, I am not saying you are approaching this with that kind of mindset because I have not tried to analyze you but just giving a general observation! BUT, tell me -- if you had a bleeding wound, would you take the patient to the nearest hospital or would you do a google search and try to figure out what would be an effective 'styptic' and then trying to find who sells that jadi booti on e-bay? If there is really a serious problem pf the body or soul (stuff that jyotish deals with, generally!) you need someone who can sit down with you and look at your problem over days and not just the microseconds that his computer program takes and not just on a one-shot basis but in an ongoing manner. I realize that not every advisor would be the right one for you, given its complexity and variability and so on but this somewhat long-term approach is something you should seriously consider if you have decided to go the jyotish way. Data and readings requests are posted on the internet for a variety of reason, some innocent, others not so as (and growingly so) and in these latter cases eventually the true motive surfaces, loud and clear! But if you or friend are really hurting, please approach a professional who will be able to give quality time and attention to you, and if there is a price for that -- then that becomes a decision point that you will have to figure out. But do consider that in the equation. Having said that, please note <CAVEAT> that this is not a ploy on my part to get your business so please do not write to me privately expecting that I am trying to attract business and will even write you back! But if you sincerely seek help, please do open yourself when posting on public forums/fora to enable yourself being approached by professionals some of whom are sincere and capable of helping. Many of these are even part-time professionals and I am not sure if that makes them more available or sincere or not, but perhaps more able to devote time than a passing forum poster of which there are many more. The latter are sincere and capable but perhaps have still not reached the vanaprastha in their careers that will eventually allow them to give more in terms of service to jyotish! A serious and OPEN and sincere plea if placed seriously demands a serious answer and generaly would receive same. RR vedic astrology, Sundeep Babbar <sundeep_babbar> wrote: > > Dear Astrologers, > > I was still waiting for someone to come forward. The person in question, badly needs some advice. So, Please help. > > Thanks....Sundeep > > Sundeep Babbar <sundeep_babbar> wrote: > > Respected Astrologers, > > > > I would like to bring forward a case of my friend who is presently going through a bad phase of his life and needs some help, as to what is good for him and his family. > > > > The problem have been with his career, which have always been on highs and lows and never constant to top it up it have been in various countries. Just before it looks it is getting settled down for him at one place, he is kicked out even after giving good performance as a sales person. > > > > Recently once again he lost his job 2 months ago. His question is: > > > > Will I be going out of India again? > Will I ever have a stable job and whether in India or Abroad? > > > > Date of birth for him and his wife are as below. Please help this person, as he is in deep depression and needs some help to resolve the above 2 questions. > > > > Male: DOB 16 th may 1969 b) Time 8.25 > AM. c) Place Ambala City, Punjab > > > > Female: DOB - 14th september 1974 - b) Time - > 20.20 PM c) Place – Dehradun, UP > > > > I look forward to getting your expert comments on this. > > > > Thanks…Sundeep > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Dear Ms. Rohini Ranjan, I dont know whether I am jumping the gun and writing this. I have read about you and the great service you have been doing to the Astro group as such, and just today I read the comments from Hon.Guruji Sanjay Rath about you. I wanted to let you know the situations where you start posting questions to the forum. I am sharing my real experience. I am also one of the kind like Mr. Sundeep, where in I had posted some messages to this group and I had some responses which was definetely comforting. Let me tell you about the situations that a person undergoes when he is in a problem, because I am even now undergoing this kind of a situation currently When you have a problem which at the first place you try to sort it out yourself with your own capabilities. Now there reaches a point when you feel that this particular problem is not getting sorted out and it is getting prolonged, now you need some advice for your future and what best place to seek that other than Astrology. Please note I am just talking about my situation and I dont know whether the others also have the same problem Now here we have a few options to sort out your problem 1. Go to your personal astrologer if you have one and consult him I am person basically from Kerala, there I do have a personal astrologer whom I always go and take advice from. I hope you must be aware of the kerala tradition in astrology. Here he checks your horoscope and tells about the dasha you currently are undergoing and the corresponding problems if any and about the overall placements of the planets in your horoscope. Now if you have a specific question he does a Prasna and based on that Prasna, he would provide answers for your problems. This I have found it to be comfortable and true to a very good extent. But the main issue is you may have to travel to his place to get an opinion. and they are definetely not in the infotech age or telecom age. Please note with whatever I know, not every one has a personal astrologer. I am currently in Chennai and here I dont have one and the ones whom I know would basically give only general predictions. In this group I have seen gurujis doing Prasna and then commenting on it and it seems to be working really well. 2. If you dont have a personal astrologer you try to find out one and then go him for professional consulting. And let me tell you when you are in trouble 9 times out of 10 you would be going into the wrong person. Eg. I happened to go Vaitheswaran Kovil, which is a place in Tamilnadu where Nadi Astrology is famous for. There it is a big market I am not saying much about it but I also got drawn to one of the Nadi astrologer, he asked me give my thumb impression and he also asked for the Date of Birth. Now whatever i have know Nadi astrology needed only the thumb impression, the moment I give the date of birth even if I dont give the time, I can definetely get quite a bit of data on my horoscope with which he can do some predictions. Now when a person is in problem, you litterraly dont worry and are ready to pay cash even after knowing that it may not be correct. I paid around 900 INR, he gave some predictions and then he started suggesting remedies, where in he suggested if we give the address he would do the remedy and then send the yantra to my place at a cost. I never did that becuase I was never comfortable. 3. Search the Internet for Astrology sites and try to get Instant reports which quite a bit of the sites are providing. Take it from me I have tried that even after knowing that it may not make sense at the end of the day. There you pay by credit card or whatever mode. Then there is one option where you can ask a question to an astrologer for a fee, I tried that too. Here is the situation, I am facing problems with my career and detailed the question and the answer was your are going through a particular dasha and the particular sub dasha, so there might be problems may be you can do some prayers to some of the gods. Now this is exactly what an Instant report also can do. So here also you dont get the answer 4. The last option by doing some searches you reach the astrology group say vedic astrology First you review the information and find there are lots of Astrologers who are renowned in this field who are gurus of this group and you see some very interesting messages with predictions which is quite interesting. now you definetely know that this is an informative site meant for learning and knowledge sharing but for me as an individual my top priority is my problem and that needs to get sorted out. So I try my luck by posting a message and some of lucky ones would get a reply. I dont want to name but some of the members of this group really give very good responses and it is really appreciable. Now how does this group stand out, We see quite a bit of messages which are analysed in detail I mean in detail which may not be the case when you go to a normal astrolger. And the point is here the chances of your message reaching the best astrologers are high, otherwise there is no way that i would have known about you if I was not a member of this group. Now we must realise that given the info-tech age, there will be more and more people coming up with questions into this group, to help people who are willing to pay I would even suggest that our group has a list which mentions the details of the members who are willing to provide professional advice for a fee, this way we may be able to at least guide the people who are facing issues to contact the right person of his choice. Here the person also gets the oppurtunity to see the responses given to others by the astrologer in his mind. Please note I am not saying to convert this into a marketting tool, but in the infotech age it would be great if for the willing people our group can help them in directing it to the right person and he also need now wait endlessly waiting for a response from the group. Dear all. Please ignore this if you feel this message is wrong and is in the wrong forum these are just my views. To close it, I have now started to learn astrology after becoming a member of this group. This is definetely a great group and thank every one for making this informative. Thank you Best Regards Jayaram --- rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote: > Dear Sundeep, > > I am probably going to get in trouble (perhaps more > from members than > moderators, I hope!) for writing this but I will, > anyway! > > I have been seeing a lot of 'urgent' requests on > several groups > recently, maybe I am just noticing those more > recently and they have > been there since Mandhata's times! Like their > medical/surgical > counterparts, internet consultations have > limitations! I know > professional consultations can be expensive and even > not cost- > effective from the viewpoint and earthly > perspectives of individuals > who approach an astrologer with a 'sales' and > "bargains" mentality > that plagues the modern mind (how much can I cream > out of this > transaction mentality)-- and some astrologers > probably are > responsible for promoting that. Mind you, I am not > saying you are > approaching this with that kind of mindset because I > have not tried > to analyze you but just giving a general > observation! > > BUT, tell me -- if you had a bleeding wound, would > you take the > patient to the nearest hospital or would you do a > google search and > try to figure out what would be an effective > 'styptic' and then > trying to find who sells that jadi booti on e-bay? > If there is really > a serious problem pf the body or soul (stuff that > jyotish deals with, > generally!) you need someone who can sit down with > you and look at > your problem over days and not just the microseconds > that his > computer program takes and not just on a one-shot > basis but in an > ongoing manner. I realize that not every advisor > would be the right > one for you, given its complexity and variability > and so on but this > somewhat long-term approach is something you should > seriously > consider if you have decided to go the jyotish way. > Data and readings > requests are posted on the internet for a variety of > reason, some > innocent, others not so as (and growingly so) and in > these latter > cases eventually the true motive surfaces, loud and > clear! But if you > or friend are really hurting, please approach a > professional who will > be able to give quality time and attention to you, > and if there is a > price for that -- then that becomes a decision point > that you will > have to figure out. But do consider that in the > equation. > > Having said that, please note <CAVEAT> that this is > not a ploy on my > part to get your business so please do not write to > me privately > expecting that I am trying to attract business and > will even write > you back! But if you sincerely seek help, please do > open yourself > when posting on public forums/fora to enable > yourself being > approached by professionals some of whom are sincere > and capable of > helping. Many of these are even part-time > professionals and I am not > sure if that makes them more available or sincere or > not, but perhaps > more able to devote time than a passing forum poster > of which there > are many more. The latter are sincere and capable > but perhaps have > still not reached the vanaprastha in their careers > that will > eventually allow them to give more in terms of > service to jyotish! > > A serious and OPEN and sincere plea if placed > seriously demands a > serious answer and generaly would receive same. > > RR > > > vedic astrology, Sundeep > Babbar > <sundeep_babbar> wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > I was still waiting for someone to come forward. > The person in > question, badly needs some advice. So, Please help. > > > > Thanks....Sundeep > > > > Sundeep Babbar <sundeep_babbar> wrote: > > > > Respected Astrologers, > > > > > > > > I would like to bring forward a case of my friend > who is presently > going through a bad phase of his life and needs some > help, as to what > is good for him and his family. > > > > > > > > The problem have been with his career, which have > always been on > highs and lows and never constant to top it up it > have been in > various countries. Just before it looks it is > getting settled down > for him at one place, he is kicked out even after > giving good > performance as a sales person. > > > > > > > > Recently once again he lost his job 2 months ago. > His question is: > > > > > > > > Will I be going out of India again? > > Will I ever have a stable job and whether in > India or Abroad? > > > > > > > > Date of birth for him and his wife are as below. > Please help this > person, as he is in deep depression and needs some > help to resolve > the above 2 questions. > > > > > > > > Male: DOB 16 th may 1969 b) Time 8.25 > > AM. c) Place Ambala City, Punjab > > > > > > > > Female: DOB - 14th september 1974 - b) Time - > > 20.20 PM c) Place – Dehradun, UP > > > > > > > > I look forward to getting your expert comments on > this. > > > > > > > > Thanks…Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in > one click. > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > === message truncated === FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Thanks for the advice, but would like to let you know that I have got no business like your's for doing astrological consultation. "THIS IS NOT MY PROFESSION". Be assured that if you will have people close to you in trouble and do not understand the reasons for that trouble, will atleast try to understand the reason for the mess. I definately understand that for wounds we have doctors. But help me understand that, is their a good astrologer sitting in every city like doctors. Even if their are, can a person already in financial constrains pay for his big fees + for his remedial measures. If I had reasonable knowledge as many people in this forum do have, I would have definately tried to help as many people as possible and be assured that in that case too, I wouldn't have tried to make a buck out of this blessings of brahma. I do not want to be a doctor who will just stand on the side and watch people cry with their wounds, just because they do not have a fees in their pocket. I am very well aware of people who will stand on the side and try to have fun in everything. But the reason to send this request to this forum was because in this forum we also have learned people like Sanjay Rath jee, who just for helping out other astrologers in the group have put forward such a nice software, which he could have used to make money anyway. The problem is that every tom, dick and harry thinks that he or she is a good astrologer and will try to make a living out of it. Just to assure you once again that this is not my business, while sending my email to this forum I have forwarded the copy to the person in question. Thanks anyway for taking time to write such a long email, which you could have used to write 2 lines about the questions asked. Sundeep rohiniranjan <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Sundeep,I am probably going to get in trouble (perhaps more from members than moderators, I hope!) for writing this but I will, anyway!I have been seeing a lot of 'urgent' requests on several groups recently, maybe I am just noticing those more recently and they have been there since Mandhata's times! Like their medical/surgical counterparts, internet consultations have limitations! I know professional consultations can be expensive and even not cost-effective from the viewpoint and earthly perspectives of individuals who approach an astrologer with a 'sales' and "bargains" mentality that plagues the modern mind (how much can I cream out of this transaction mentality)-- and some astrologers probably are responsible for promoting that. Mind you, I am not saying you are approaching this with that kind of mindset because I have not tried to analyze you but just giving a general observation! BUT, tell me -- if you had a bleeding wound, would you take the patient to the nearest hospital or would you do a google search and try to figure out what would be an effective 'styptic' and then trying to find who sells that jadi booti on e-bay? If there is really a serious problem pf the body or soul (stuff that jyotish deals with, generally!) you need someone who can sit down with you and look at your problem over days and not just the microseconds that his computer program takes and not just on a one-shot basis but in an ongoing manner. I realize that not every advisor would be the right one for you, given its complexity and variability and so on but this somewhat long-term approach is something you should seriously consider if you have decided to go the jyotish way. Data and readings requests are posted on the internet for a variety of reason, some innocent, others not so as (and growingly so) and in these latter cases eventually the true motive surfaces, loud and clear! But if you or friend are really hurting, please approach a professional who will be able to give quality time and attention to you, and if there is a price for that -- then that becomes a decision point that you will have to figure out. But do consider that in the equation.Having said that, please note <CAVEAT> that this is not a ploy on my part to get your business so please do not write to me privately expecting that I am trying to attract business and will even write you back! But if you sincerely seek help, please do open yourself when posting on public forums/fora to enable yourself being approached by professionals some of whom are sincere and capable of helping. Many of these are even part-time professionals and I am not sure if that makes them more available or sincere or not, but perhaps more able to devote time than a passing forum poster of which there are many more. The latter are sincere and capable but perhaps have still not reached the vanaprastha in their careers that will eventually allow them to give more in terms of service to jyotish!A serious and OPEN and sincere plea if placed seriously demands a serious answer and generaly would receive same.RR--- In vedic astrology, Sundeep Babbar <sundeep_babbar> wrote:>> Dear Astrologers,> > I was still waiting for someone to come forward. The person in question, badly needs some advice. So, Please help.> > Thanks....Sundeep> > Sundeep Babbar <sundeep_babbar> wrote:> > Respected Astrologers,> > > > I would like to bring forward a case of my friend who is presently going through a bad phase of his life and needs some help, as to what is good for him and his family.> > > > The problem have been with his career, which have always been on highs and lows and never constant to top it up it have been in various countries. Just before it looks it is getting settled down for him at one place, he is kicked out even after giving good performance as a sales person. > > > > Recently once again he lost his job 2 months ago. His question is:> > > > Will I be going out of India again? > Will I ever have a stable job and whether in India or Abroad?> > > > Date of birth for him and his wife are as below. Please help this person, as he is in deep depression and needs some help to resolve the above 2 questions.> > > > Male: DOB 16 th may 1969 b) Time 8.25> AM. c) Place Ambala City, Punjab> > > > Female: DOB - 14th september 1974 - b) Time -> 20.20 PM c) Place – Dehradun, UP> > > > I look forward to getting your expert comments on this.> > > > Thanks…Sundeep> > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > Astrology chart Astrology reading Vedic astrology Divination tool > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.> -->Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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