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Dear Ranjan,

 

> If rashi can be subdivided into amshas, e.g., navamsha to keep things> simple

and these navamshas were given the same names and attributes > as the signs by

the Originators of Jyotish it makes sense that the > division need not stop

there.

 

Beautifully put!

 

Divisions of divisions are possible. In fact, some of them ARE defined in

tradition. Examples are navamsa-navamsa, navamsa-dwadasamsa and

dwadasamsa-dwadasamsa.

 

But it is non-trivial to figure out what matters a division of a division shows.

We have some examples in tradition (see charts listed above), but we are on our

own to figure out what other divisions of divisions show. Unfortunately, we

don't have the intellectual acumen of rishis!

 

However, accepting divisional longitudes and using them in transits can be the first step.

 

I already gave one example of George W Bush re-election when transit Jupiter's

dasamsa chart longitude matched natal Moon's kshetra (kshetra=rasi) chart

longitude. Let me give one more example.

 

My birthdata: 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), Machilipatnam, India

 

Event data: 1994 January 28, 6:00 pm (IST), Hyderabad, India

 

The event was starting the vratam of reciting Sri Maha Lakshmi's 108 names 108

times on every Friday. I started this practice on that day at the time

mentioned. By Her grace, I have done it every Friday for almost 12 years now.

It'll be a Pushkaram in January 2006 (incidentally, Ketu will be transiting

exactly on my lagna sphuta in kshetra chart and Mercury-Rahu-Ketu PD will be

running).

 

The event of 1994 January 28 may seem like a small event to some, but has been a

landmark event in my life and a truly life-transforming one. It is the most

important event of my life so far.

 

Let us see the transits.

 

In my chart, the 8th house of rasi chart (the house of sadhana/tapasya) is owned

and occupied by Mars. Mantra pada (A5) is right there too. So let us see the

transit of Mars in rasi and navamsa. Mars was transiting at that time at 6Cp30

in kshetra chart and 28Aq33 in navamsa chart. In my natal navamsa chart, Sun

(12th lord of rasi chart) is at 7Cp53 and the kshetra transit of Mars activated

him. More importantly, my AK Moon is at 28Aq33 in natal kshetra chart. Transit

of Mars on that EXACT longitude in navamsa triggered Moon.

 

Now, see the transit of Jupiter. Jupiter's navamsa transit was at 24Pi43 and it

is close to natal kshetra Sun at 20Pi53. Jupiter's kshetra transit was at

19Li25 and that closely aspects natal Moon's navamsa position at 17Ge01.

 

So, using the rasi-navamsa cross aspects as I mentioned in a previous mail,

Jupiter and Mars both activated the luminaries - 12th lord Sun and AK Moon.

Especially, Mars's navamsa transit was exactly on natal kshetra Moon (just like

Jupiter's dasamsa transit was exactly on natal kshetra Moon at the time of

Bush's re-election).

 

If only we want to look carefully, there is a lot that planets are willing to reveal!

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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> Dear Narasimha,> > If rashi can be subdivided into amshas, e.g., navamsha to

keep things> simple and these navamshas were given the same names and

attributes > as the signs by the Originators of Jyotish it makes sense that the

> division need not stop there. The same pattern can repeat further on > to give

finer and finer subdivisions in different combinations of the > divisions as you

proposed. After all, the Dasha, antardasha, > pratyantardasha, sukshma prana etc

schema exists on that same > repeating basis and is never questioned by

followers of jyotish.> > And in order to accept this concept one didn't even

have to leave the > basic solid jyotish framework and certainly did not have to

seek > refuge in a completely different system to explain why jyotish >

divisions work or how!> > RR> > , "Narasimha

P.V.R. Rao" > <pvr@c...> wrote:> >> > Namaste,> > > > I am talking about the

divisional longitudes.> > > > Suppose Jupiter is physically at 22 deg in

Aries. In the navamsa > chart, 22 deg of Aries falls in Libra. The region

20-23:20 deg of > Aries is mapped in navamsa to 0-30 deg Libra. You can map the

> longitude of Jupiter to navamsa by pro-rating 3 deg 20 min to 30 deg. > The

point 22 deg in Aries falls in (22-20)x9=18 deg in Libra. This is > how we find

divisional longitudes.> > > > Some people may be jumping up at this, but you

should note that > this is the basis of the Navamsa-Dwadasamsa chart and some

other > charts defined in tradition. Navamsa-Dwadasamsa chart is based on >

finding longitudes in navamsa and then treating navamsa as rasi chart > and

then finding dwadasamsa chart from it.> > > > Similarly, if Jupiter is 14Vi21,

his dasamsa longitude is (14:21-> 12:00)x10=23.5. So he is in the 24th degree.

The 5th dasamsa of Vi > falls in Vi itself. So Jupiter is in the 24th degree of

Virgo in the > dasamsa chart.> > > > Bush's natal rasi chart has a Gaja-Kesari

yoga and a raja yoga > between Moon and Jupiter and Moon is at 23Vi38. On the

day of re-> election, Jupiter was transiting 23Vi38 in dasamsa chart.> > > >

May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha> >

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not understand the statement that jup was transiting at 14 > vi but> > > 23vi in

dasamsa. the position of jup is seen from panchang and > will be> > > same

whether we use it ib d1 or other d charts.> > > r> > > > > > --- In

, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > <pvr@c...>> > > wrote:>

> > >> > > > Namaste Prafulla,> > > > > > > > In my experience, transits w.r.t

Moon of navamsa and dasamsa are> > > quite meaningful.> > > > > > > > You can

look at the rasi position of a transit planet and judge > it> > > w.r.t. the

divisional chart position of natal Moon.> > > > > > > > In fact, if you are

careful, you can look at transits in > divisional> > > charts too. I did some

research on correlating (a) the transits in> > > rasi chart with natal

divisional charts and (b) the transits in> > > divisional charts with natal

rasi chart. I presented a little bit > of> > > that in my book. Let me give one

more pointer today.> > > > > > > > Take George W Bush's rasi chart. There is a

powerful raja yoga> > > between lagna lord Moon at 23Vi38 and 9th lord Jupiter

at 25Vi02. > Now,> > > consider the *dasamsa transit* of Jupiter on Nov 3, 2004

morning > when> > > Bush won an election. Jupiter was transiting 14Vi21. But, if

you > look> > > at his divisional longitude in dasamsa, he was transiting

exactly> > > 23Vi38 at 10 am on Nov 3, 2004!! Thus D-10 Jupiter in transit> > >

*exactly* touched rasi Moon of natal chart, when Kerry accepted > defeat!> > > >

> > > > Not only that, look at the reverse link. In the natal D-10, > Jupiter>

> > at 10Cp24 and Mars at 12Cp26 give a raja yoga and Jaya yoga. The> > >

transit Jupiter of rasi chart was at 14 deg and aspecting natal> > > dasamsa

Mars reasonably closely (14 deg to 12.5 deg). Jupiter was> > > placed such that

his rasi chart longitude had a close aspect on > natal> > > dasamsa longitude of

Mars and his dasamsa chart longitude had an> > > unbelievably close conjunction

with natal rasi Moon. Moon and > Mars are> > > the two planets involved in raja

yogas with Jupiter in natal> > > rasi/dasamsa charts.> > > > > > > > By

correlating the longitudes of natal and transit planets in> > > rasi/divisions,

you can see some important events. God willing, I > will> > > talk about my

findings in greater detail when (if) the right time > comes.> > > > > > > > If

you find this interesting, do read the following post for the> > >

background/basics/motivation:> > > > > > > >

vedic astrology/message/65934> > > > > > > > or>

> > > > > > > /message/9320> > > > >

> > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > > > Narasimha> > > >

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Dear Narasimha,

All d charts will change with the different aymansh

and i want to know which ayamansh you prefer to

follow.

Sudhir

 

 

--- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote:

 

> Dear Ranjan,

>

> > If rashi can be subdivided into amshas, e.g.,

> navamsha to keep things

> > simple and these navamshas were given the same

> names and attributes

> > as the signs by the Originators of Jyotish it

> makes sense that the

> > division need not stop there.

>

> Beautifully put!

>

> Divisions of divisions are possible. In fact, some

> of them ARE defined in tradition. Examples are

> navamsa-navamsa, navamsa-dwadasamsa and

> dwadasamsa-dwadasamsa.

>

> But it is non-trivial to figure out what matters a

> division of a division shows. We have some examples

> in tradition (see charts listed above), but we are

> on our own to figure out what other divisions of

> divisions show. Unfortunately, we don't have the

> intellectual acumen of rishis!

>

> However, accepting divisional longitudes and using

> them in transits can be the first step.

>

> I already gave one example of George W Bush

> re-election when transit Jupiter's dasamsa chart

> longitude matched natal Moon's kshetra

> (kshetra=rasi) chart longitude. Let me give one more

> example.

>

> My birthdata: 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST),

> Machilipatnam, India

>

> Event data: 1994 January 28, 6:00 pm (IST),

> Hyderabad, India

>

> The event was starting the vratam of reciting Sri

> Maha Lakshmi's 108 names 108 times on every Friday.

> I started this practice on that day at the time

> mentioned. By Her grace, I have done it every Friday

> for almost 12 years now. It'll be a Pushkaram in

> January 2006 (incidentally, Ketu will be transiting

> exactly on my lagna sphuta in kshetra chart and

> Mercury-Rahu-Ketu PD will be running).

>

> The event of 1994 January 28 may seem like a small

> event to some, but has been a landmark event in my

> life and a truly life-transforming one. It is the

> most important event of my life so far.

>

> Let us see the transits.

>

> In my chart, the 8th house of rasi chart (the house

> of sadhana/tapasya) is owned and occupied by Mars.

> Mantra pada (A5) is right there too. So let us see

> the transit of Mars in rasi and navamsa. Mars was

> transiting at that time at 6Cp30 in kshetra chart

> and 28Aq33 in navamsa chart. In my natal navamsa

> chart, Sun (12th lord of rasi chart) is at 7Cp53 and

> the kshetra transit of Mars activated him. More

> importantly, my AK Moon is at 28Aq33 in natal

> kshetra chart. Transit of Mars on that EXACT

> longitude in navamsa triggered Moon.

>

> Now, see the transit of Jupiter. Jupiter's navamsa

> transit was at 24Pi43 and it is close to natal

> kshetra Sun at 20Pi53. Jupiter's kshetra transit was

> at 19Li25 and that closely aspects natal Moon's

> navamsa position at 17Ge01.

>

> So, using the rasi-navamsa cross aspects as I

> mentioned in a previous mail, Jupiter and Mars both

> activated the luminaries - 12th lord Sun and AK

> Moon. Especially, Mars's navamsa transit was exactly

> on natal kshetra Moon (just like Jupiter's dasamsa

> transit was exactly on natal kshetra Moon at the

> time of Bush's re-election).

>

> If only we want to look carefully, there is a lot

> that planets are willing to reveal!

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

-------------------------------

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3):

> http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows):

> http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website:

> http://www.SriJagannath.org

>

-------------------------------

>

> > Dear Narasimha,

> >

> > If rashi can be subdivided into amshas, e.g.,

> navamsha to keep things

> > simple and these navamshas were given the same

> names and attributes

> > as the signs by the Originators of Jyotish it

> makes sense that the

> > division need not stop there. The same pattern can

> repeat further on

> > to give finer and finer subdivisions in different

> combinations of the

> > divisions as you proposed. After all, the Dasha,

> antardasha,

> > pratyantardasha, sukshma prana etc schema exists

> on that same

> > repeating basis and is never questioned by

> followers of jyotish.

> >

> > And in order to accept this concept one didn't

> even have to leave the

> > basic solid jyotish framework and certainly did

> not have to seek

> > refuge in a completely different system to explain

> why jyotish

> > divisions work or how!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "Narasimha

> P.V.R. Rao"

> > <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > I am talking about the divisional longitudes.

> > >

> > > Suppose Jupiter is physically at 22 deg in

> Aries. In the navamsa

> > chart, 22 deg of Aries falls in Libra. The region

> 20-23:20 deg of

> > Aries is mapped in navamsa to 0-30 deg Libra. You

> can map the

> > longitude of Jupiter to navamsa by pro-rating 3

> deg 20 min to 30 deg.

> > The point 22 deg in Aries falls in (22-20)x9=18

> deg in Libra. This is

> > how we find divisional longitudes.

> > >

> > > Some people may be jumping up at this, but you

> should note that

> > this is the basis of the Navamsa-Dwadasamsa chart

> and some other

> > charts defined in tradition. Navamsa-Dwadasamsa

> chart is based on

> > finding longitudes in navamsa and then treating

> navamsa as rasi chart

> > and then finding dwadasamsa chart from it.

> > >

> > > Similarly, if Jupiter is 14Vi21, his dasamsa

> longitude is (14:21-

> > 12:00)x10=23.5. So he is in the 24th degree. The

> 5th dasamsa of Vi

> > falls in Vi itself. So Jupiter is in the 24th

> degree of Virgo in the

> > dasamsa chart.

> > >

> > > Bush's natal rasi chart has a Gaja-Kesari yoga

> and a raja yoga

> > between Moon and Jupiter and Moon is at 23Vi38. On

> the day of re-

> > election, Jupiter was transiting 23Vi38 in dasamsa

> chart.

> > >

> > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > Narasimha

> > >

>

-------------------------------

> > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3):

> http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > > Free Jyotish software (Windows):

> http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website:

> http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > >

>

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> > >

> > > > i do not understand the statement that jup was

> transiting at 14

> > vi but

> > > > 23vi in dasamsa. the position of jup is seen

> from panchang and

> > will be

> > > > same whether we use it ib d1 or other d

> charts.

> > > > r

> > > >

> > > > ,

> "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> > <pvr@c...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Prafulla,

> > > > >

> > > > > In my experience, transits w.r.t Moon of

> navamsa and dasamsa are

>

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