Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Dear tvrao, I support it because of one thing. We may respond to someone's arguments, if it turns out to be an SJC guru and if all the students, may think that I am talking against SJC, and I am in trouble! You can see it happened in several previous instances, for me and for many others. Who knows whether the fellow we are speaking with is an SJC Guru or not, or why should we be specially bothered about them? Like sandeep said: if "the title of 'SJC Guru' on their identification name" then we could have avoided responding to these people and thus avoid all such discrimination and trouble. Even without much knowledge input, the *your*/*our* view comes in from them. It is just my opinion. May be I am wrong. Love, Sreenadh tvrao <tvrao_agd Tue Nov 1, 2005 7:07 am RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Andhra Rail Disaster ....and Delhi blasts...No personal remarks r_tv_99 Offline Send Email dear sreenadhji, happy deepavali. the suggestions are very good but why only to sjc guru or sjc member? many people on this list does not give their exact identity and there were no. of debates on this issue all these years. so there should be an universal code for the group. tvr 9422203510 vedic astrology [vedic astrology]On Behalf Of Sreenadh Monday, October 31, 2005 3:19 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Andhra Rail Disaster ....and Delhi blasts...No personal remarks Dear Sadeep, Truths are not sweet always!... >I feel that forum administration should ask them to add >the title of "SJC Guru" on their identification name when they >respond on the forum. I really await for responses from Gurus to >at least know the standing of SJC center or at least its flag >bearers on many issues. I support the same! Take my case, I don't know whether one is an SJC Guru or not and just have to respond to his arguments. If it turns out to be an SJC guru and if all the students, take the stand that I am talking against SJC, I am in trouble!!! Just Joking... I have nothing against SJC and appreciate their efforts.. But what Sandeep says seems to be just plane truth. How could we know that someone is SJC Guru or not? Love, Sreenadh Message: 17 Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:45:23 +1100 "Sandeep Prasad" <sandeeprasad Re: Andhra Rail Disaster ....and Delhi blasts...No personal remarks Dera Tatvamji, SJC Gurus ??? how many times do yu see them (with few exceptions....they know who they are !!)responding to issues on this site ? What is the fequency ? I have seen many issues being debated with great energy and i keep looking for contributions of such ppl but often have to be content with incomplete arguments. I am very confident that answers such as "not worth replying" or " not worth debating" will be forthcoming in most cases. Yes.... if there in any forthcoming function or seminar......one will definitely hear very detailed posts on the forum but such is not the case on debate issues. I feel that forum administration should ask them to add the title of "SJC Guru" on their identification name when they respond on the forum. I really await for responses from Gurus to at least know the standing of SJC centre or at least its flag bearers on many issues. I do see PVR respond on many occassions but it is less frequent by other gurus. I hope my request is taken in good spirits and responded practically. SP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 dear sreenadhji, it is very nice to read your mail. at the same time, what i feel is if a person is correct in his thinking and knowledge no harm in arguing with people irrespective of their title. at the same time, the *your*/*our* views should not lead to unsavoury brickbatings. the arguments should have essence and should have some solid proof of verification (what i mean is if somebody is sure that there are no d-charts as per rishis, then take some of the charts prove/predict the events on the basis of whatever charts rishis spoke about). don't be angry on me for saying this because till date i could not meet even a single astrologer who could predict my future and also many have failed in predicting past events. i can say this because last time when i presented a puzzle very few participated and most of them were far away from the actual events. for that matter those participants have applied different techniques, but the results are different. even the recent puzzle which i had floated had seen very few takers, may be my presentation was not good or majority does not like puzzles to be presented on this forum. instead i see lot of brickbating which show egos. as a layman i expect an astrologer to be *sthithapragna* and should have *vaksuddhi* (he may not be tapasvi). lastly, as i am not an astrologer and astrological student (so not affiliated to any astrological group) i beg pardon of you, if i had crossed any of my limits. may lord siva bless all with knowledge. tvr 9422203510 vedic astrology [vedic astrology]On Behalf Of Sreenadh Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:51 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] SJC Gurus ??? Dear tvrao, I support it because of one thing. We may respond to someone's arguments, if it turns out to be an SJC guru and if all the students, may think that I am talking against SJC, and I am in trouble! You can see it happened in several previous instances, for me and for many others. Who knows whether the fellow we are speaking with is an SJC Guru or not, or why should we be specially bothered about them? Like sandeep said: if "the title of 'SJC Guru' on their identification name" then we could have avoided responding to these people and thus avoid all such discrimination and trouble. Even without much knowledge input, the *your*/*our* view comes in from them. It is just my opinion. May be I am wrong. Love, Sreenadh tvrao <tvrao_agd Tue Nov 1, 2005 7:07 am RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Andhra Rail Disaster ....and Delhi blasts...No personal remarks r_tv_99 Offline Send Email dear sreenadhji, happy deepavali. the suggestions are very good but why only to sjc guru or sjc member? many people on this list does not give their exact identity and there were no. of debates on this issue all these years. so there should be an universal code for the group. tvr 9422203510 vedic astrology [vedic astrology]On Behalf Of Sreenadh Monday, October 31, 2005 3:19 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Andhra Rail Disaster ....and Delhi blasts...No personal remarks Dear Sadeep, Truths are not sweet always!... >I feel that forum administration should ask them to add >the title of "SJC Guru" on their identification name when they >respond on the forum. I really await for responses from Gurus to >at least know the standing of SJC center or at least its flag >bearers on many issues. I support the same! Take my case, I don't know whether one is an SJC Guru or not and just have to respond to his arguments. If it turns out to be an SJC guru and if all the students, take the stand that I am talking against SJC, I am in trouble!!! Just Joking... I have nothing against SJC and appreciate their efforts.. But what Sandeep says seems to be just plane truth. How could we know that someone is SJC Guru or not? Love, Sreenadh Message: 17 Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:45:23 +1100 "Sandeep Prasad" <sandeeprasad Re: Andhra Rail Disaster ....and Delhi blasts...No personal remarks Dera Tatvamji, SJC Gurus ??? how many times do yu see them (with few exceptions....they know who they are !!)responding to issues on this site ? What is the fequency ? I have seen many issues being debated with great energy and i keep looking for contributions of such ppl but often have to be content with incomplete arguments. I am very confident that answers such as "not worth replying" or " not worth debating" will be forthcoming in most cases. Yes.... if there in any forthcoming function or seminar......one will definitely hear very detailed posts on the forum but such is not the case on debate issues. I feel that forum administration should ask them to add the title of "SJC Guru" on their identification name when they respond on the forum. I really await for responses from Gurus to at least know the standing of SJC centre or at least its flag bearers on many issues. I do see PVR respond on many occassions but it is less frequent by other gurus. I hope my request is taken in good spirits and responded practically. SP Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 Dear tvrao, It is good to hear such comments. Why should I be angry? I am none, but just a seeker of the truth of astrolgy!! I agree with many points put forward by you. > at the same time, what i feel is if a person is correct > in his thinking and > knowledge no harm in arguing with people irrespective > of their title. at the same time, the *your*/*our* views > should not lead to unsavoury brickbatings. > the arguments should have essence and should have some > solid proof of verification I just agree completely. At the same time I would say, that we commit logical and argument mistakes at times, and we should be ready to accept our errors and say that, we made such and such mistakes when it gets revealed to us!! > if somebody is sure that there are no d-charts > as per rishis, then take some of the charts prove/predict the > events on the basis of whatever charts rishis spoke about. Yes, that we can try - but first let this theoretical debate be over. One thing at a time - we can only progress step by step. Some debates are like real researches, and we should appreciate them. Look at Mohan ji - how much pain he is taking to collect/arrange and present that data!! We should appreciate such efforts. If such people has to engage in multiple arguments, they may not get enough time to put their efforts on a single subject. Same is my case. Please see and understand and recognize this fact. > till date i could not meet even a single astrologer who > could predict my future and also many have failed in predicting > past events. There are many who are good astrologers - but don't intend to say that some one could all the past events correctly. Believe that we had a system, created by Rishis using which they predicted the events correctly. We should try to recreate that system, using whatever evidence available to us from those classics. Gradually our predictive power and correctness will improve - I am sure. I count on the sincerity of those Rishi's in creating such a system (astrology), and consider myself as a student on the same. We are all just learners. > i can say this because last time when i presented a puzzle very few > participated and most of them were far away from the actual events. As far as puzzles and horoscopes are concerned, I am not taking them, because I want to concentrate on the theoretical issues first. Everyone has his field of interest and time constraints and I feel it is more useful to spend more time on theoretical issues than on spending time on single horoscopes and puzzles. The solving and coming to agreement on some fundamental aspects of the system (of astrology), is a much important issue at hand, and for the time being I want to concentrate on the same. > instead i see lot of brickbating which show egos. > as a layman i expect an astrologer to be *sthithapragna* > and should have *vaksuddhi* (he may not be > tapasvi). I agree with you. Ego clashes should be avoided in such forums as far as possible. You said it well. Love, Sreenadh vedic astrology, tvrao <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote: > > dear sreenadhji, > > it is very nice to read your mail. > > at the same time, what i feel is if a person is correct in his thinking and > knowledge no harm in arguing with people irrespective of their title. at the > same time, the *your*/*our* views should not lead to unsavoury brickbatings. > the arguments should have essence and should have some solid proof of > verification (what i mean is if somebody is sure that there are no d-charts > as per rishis, then take some of the charts prove/predict the events on the > basis of whatever charts rishis spoke about). don't be angry on me for > saying this because till date i could not meet even a single astrologer who > could predict my future and also many have failed in predicting past events. > > i can say this because last time when i presented a puzzle very few > participated and most of them were far away from the actual events. for that > matter those participants have applied different techniques, but the results > are different. even the recent puzzle which i had floated had seen very few > takers, may be my presentation was not good or majority does not like > puzzles to be presented on this forum. > > instead i see lot of brickbating which show egos. as a layman i expect an > astrologer to be *sthithapragna* and should have *vaksuddhi* (he may not be > tapasvi). > > lastly, as i am not an astrologer and astrological student (so not > affiliated to any astrological group) i beg pardon of you, if i had crossed > any of my limits. > > may lord siva bless all with knowledge. > > tvr > 9422203510 > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology]On Behalf Of Sreenadh > Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:51 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] SJC Gurus ??? > > > Dear tvrao, > I support it because of one thing. We may respond to someone's > arguments, if it turns out to be an SJC guru and if all the students, > may think that I am talking against SJC, and I am in trouble! You can > see it happened in several previous instances, for me and for many > others. Who knows whether the fellow we are speaking with is an SJC > Guru or not, or why should we be specially bothered about them? Like > sandeep said: if "the title of 'SJC Guru' on their identification > name" then we could have avoided responding to these people and thus > avoid all such discrimination and trouble. Even without much knowledge > input, the *your*/*our* view comes in from them. It is just my > opinion. May be I am wrong. > Love, > Sreenadh > > > tvrao <tvrao_agd@> > Tue Nov 1, 2005 7:07 am > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Andhra Rail Disaster ....and Delhi > blasts...No personal remarks r_tv_99 > Offline > Send Email > dear sreenadhji, > > happy deepavali. > > the suggestions are very good but why only to sjc guru or sjc member? > many > people on this list does not give their exact identity and there were > no. of > debates on this issue all these years. > > so there should be an universal code for the group. > > tvr > 9422203510 > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology]On Behalf Of Sreenadh > Monday, October 31, 2005 3:19 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Andhra Rail Disaster ....and Delhi > blasts...No personal remarks > > > Dear Sadeep, > Truths are not sweet always!... > >I feel that forum administration should ask them to add > >the title of "SJC Guru" on their identification name when they > >respond on the forum. I really await for responses from Gurus to > >at least know the standing of SJC center or at least its flag > >bearers on many issues. > I support the same! Take my case, I don't know whether one is an SJC > Guru or not and just have to respond to his arguments. If it turns out > to be an SJC guru and if all the students, take the stand that I am > talking against SJC, I am in trouble!!! > Just Joking... I have nothing against SJC and appreciate their > efforts.. But what Sandeep says seems to be just plane truth. How > could we know that someone is SJC Guru or not? > Love, > Sreenadh > > Message: 17 > Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:45:23 +1100 > "Sandeep Prasad" <sandeeprasad@> > Re: Andhra Rail Disaster ....and Delhi blasts...No personal > remarks > > Dera Tatvamji, > > SJC Gurus ??? how many times do yu see them (with few > exceptions....they > know who they are !!)responding to issues on this site ? What is the > fequency ? I have seen many issues being debated with great energy and > i > keep looking for contributions of such ppl but often have to be > content > with > incomplete arguments. I am very confident that answers such as "not > worth > replying" or " not worth debating" will be forthcoming in most cases. > > Yes.... if there in any forthcoming function or seminar......one will > definitely hear very detailed posts on the forum but such is not the > case on > debate issues. I feel that forum administration should ask them to add > the > title of "SJC Guru" on their identification name when they respond on > the > forum. I really await for responses from Gurus to at least know the > standing > of SJC centre or at least its flag bearers on many issues. > > I do see PVR respond on many occassions but it is less frequent by > other > gurus. I hope my request is taken in good spirits and responded > practically. > > SP > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- (AT) (DOT) com > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.