Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Dear Prafulla ji, Probably no Rishi can answer you question!!! But probably some *modern Rishis* can with there own theory!! In that sense you are free to make your own theory!! It is a good question. Thank you. Love, Sreenadh Message: 16 Tue, 01 Nov 2005 00:01:16 -0000 "Prafulla Gang" <prafulla.gang interpreting transit in D charts Dear members, How to apply transiting planets in D charts? For example- if D 10, lagna is Scorpio and Exalted moon is in Vrishbha. Now as we know, saturn is transiting in Cancer, Jupiter in Libra and Rahu in Pisces. Now, will we apply these in D 10 as Saturn in Cancer or we will take D 10 for saturn's current transit and apply the trasit for interpretation. In other words, do we consider, that for the example above, sade sati in D 10 over(While reading, Deva Keralam, it sounded to me like this only). regards / Prafulla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Dear Surya ji I noted down this specific tip from Deva Keralam, when I read them 8/9 years back and used to apply consistently - when i used to read charts. and I had opportunity to speak to Late shri Santhanam too, when he confired this important interpretation rule. In his commentary, author explained that the rule can be even, expanded for other natural malefic planets. My books are lying in packed boxes and will need some efforts to retrieve them. In my guess, it is in Volume II / III (in early pages). If you have read Deva keralam, it has extensively explained navamsa chart for many readings like - death (mrityu tulya kashta) of relatives (e.g. grand father, father etc). Nadiyamsa can not be taken for Navamsa chart and is taken only for Rasi. BUT, Navamsa chart is read in isolation in many sholkas. I am sorry for my inabilty to quote you the reference page nos in Deva Keralam. But, I am sure of this, for my discussions with author himself. regards / Prafulla vedic astrology, Surya Rao <suryarao12> wrote: > > Dear Prafulla, > > After the appearance of your earlier posting in respect of Devakeralam, we, three people have been going through the three Books published by late Sri Santhanam of Devakeralam to find what you have stated. We are yet to find any such sounding verses. On the contrary, all verses in the work are given for Lagnas and not a verse I could find given for Navamsa or other Varga kundalis. > > Devakeralam also does not mention nadiamsa for Navamsa. Kindly quote those verses where you are finding interesting or new methods so that other can also look in and try to understand. > > Surya > > Prafulla Gang <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > Dear members, > > How to apply transiting planets in D charts? For example- if D 10, > lagna is Scorpio and Exalted moon is in Vrishbha. Now as we know, > saturn is transiting in Cancer, Jupiter in Libra and Rahu in Pisces. > Now, will we apply these in D 10 as Saturn in Cancer or we will take D > 10 for saturn's current transit and apply the trasit for > interpretation. In other words, do we consider, that for the example > above, sade sati in D 10 over(While reading, Deva Keralam, it sounded > to me like this only). > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > Astrology chart Astrology reading Vedic astrology Divination tool > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Dear Narasimha Ji, Yes, i have been following the thread (you referred) and with this background only, I recalled my notes on Deva Keralam. In fact, Deva Keralam also prescribes for transit analysis from Navamsa's Moon sign (contrary to traditional moon sign in rasi chart). This probably leads a whole set of interpretation model, which seems to have been missed out by most vedic astrologers. Moon's sign in Navamsa is critical for few more reasons. In my understanding with few good local astrologers, Dasa system (based on moon's sign) depicts the role of bhagya (D- 9 ), where in sade sati, the dasa system cease to operate. So if D -9's moon position is used for transit readings of saturn, it will probably provide more refined pointers for interpretations. I recall, when you advised me to hold my decision to stick to IT business till Oct 2005 (i.e time after Oct 2005 will be fine). In my Dasamasa chart, I have been undergoing sade Sati until Sept 05. It seems this co incides with these dates. Wish you and your family a very happy diwali and prosperous new year. regards / Prafulla vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > > Namaste Prafulla, > > In my experience, transits w.r.t Moon of navamsa and dasamsa are quite meaningful. > > You can look at the rasi position of a transit planet and judge it w.r.t. the divisional chart position of natal Moon. > > In fact, if you are careful, you can look at transits in divisional charts too. I did some research on correlating (a) the transits in rasi chart with natal divisional charts and (b) the transits in divisional charts with natal rasi chart. I presented a little bit of that in my book. Let me give one more pointer today. > > Take George W Bush's rasi chart. There is a powerful raja yoga between lagna lord Moon at 23Vi38 and 9th lord Jupiter at 25Vi02. Now, consider the *dasamsa transit* of Jupiter on Nov 3, 2004 morning when Bush won an election. Jupiter was transiting 14Vi21. But, if you look at his divisional longitude in dasamsa, he was transiting exactly 23Vi38 at 10 am on Nov 3, 2004!! Thus D-10 Jupiter in transit *exactly* touched rasi Moon of natal chart, when Kerry accepted defeat! > > Not only that, look at the reverse link. In the natal D-10, Jupiter at 10Cp24 and Mars at 12Cp26 give a raja yoga and Jaya yoga. The transit Jupiter of rasi chart was at 14 deg and aspecting natal dasamsa Mars reasonably closely (14 deg to 12.5 deg). Jupiter was placed such that his rasi chart longitude had a close aspect on natal dasamsa longitude of Mars and his dasamsa chart longitude had an unbelievably close conjunction with natal rasi Moon. Moon and Mars are the two planets involved in raja yogas with Jupiter in natal rasi/dasamsa charts. > > By correlating the longitudes of natal and transit planets in rasi/divisions, you can see some important events. God willing, I will talk about my findings in greater detail when (if) the right time comes. > > If you find this interesting, do read the following post for the background/basics/motivation: > > vedic astrology/message/65934 > > or > > /message/9320 > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > ------------------------------- > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > ------------------------------- > > > Dear members, > > > > How to apply transiting planets in D charts? For example- if D 10, > > lagna is Scorpio and Exalted moon is in Vrishbha. Now as we know, > > saturn is transiting in Cancer, Jupiter in Libra and Rahu in Pisces. > > Now, will we apply these in D 10 as Saturn in Cancer or we will take D > > 10 for saturn's current transit and apply the trasit for > > interpretation. In other words, do we consider, that for the example > > above, sade sati in D 10 over(While reading, Deva Keralam, it sounded > > to me like this only). > > > > regards / Prafulla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Namaste, I am talking about the divisional longitudes. Suppose Jupiter is physically at 22 deg in Aries. In the navamsa chart, 22 deg of Aries falls in Libra. The region 20-23:20 deg of Aries is mapped in navamsa to 0-30 deg Libra. You can map the longitude of Jupiter to navamsa by pro-rating 3 deg 20 min to 30 deg. The point 22 deg in Aries falls in (22-20)x9=18 deg in Libra. This is how we find divisional longitudes. Some people may be jumping up at this, but you should note that this is the basis of the Navamsa-Dwadasamsa chart and some other charts defined in tradition. Navamsa-Dwadasamsa chart is based on finding longitudes in navamsa and then treating navamsa as rasi chart and then finding dwadasamsa chart from it. Similarly, if Jupiter is 14Vi21, his dasamsa longitude is (14:21-12:00)x10=23.5. So he is in the 24th degree. The 5th dasamsa of Vi falls in Vi itself. So Jupiter is in the 24th degree of Virgo in the dasamsa chart. Bush's natal rasi chart has a Gaja-Kesari yoga and a raja yoga between Moon and Jupiter and Moon is at 23Vi38. On the day of re-election, Jupiter was transiting 23Vi38 in dasamsa chart. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha -------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- > i do not understand the statement that jup was transiting at 14 vi but> 23vi in dasamsa. the position of jup is seen from panchang and will be> same whether we use it ib d1 or other d charts.> r> > --- In , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...>> wrote:> >> > Namaste Prafulla,> > > > In my experience, transits w.r.t Moon of navamsa and dasamsa are> quite meaningful.> > > > You can look at the rasi position of a transit planet and judge it> w.r.t. the divisional chart position of natal Moon.> > > > In fact, if you are careful, you can look at transits in divisional> charts too. I did some research on correlating (a) the transits in> rasi chart with natal divisional charts and (b) the transits in> divisional charts with natal rasi chart. I presented a little bit of> that in my book. Let me give one more pointer today.> > > > Take George W Bush's rasi chart. There is a powerful raja yoga> between lagna lord Moon at 23Vi38 and 9th lord Jupiter at 25Vi02. Now,> consider the *dasamsa transit* of Jupiter on Nov 3, 2004 morning when> Bush won an election. Jupiter was transiting 14Vi21. But, if you look> at his divisional longitude in dasamsa, he was transiting exactly> 23Vi38 at 10 am on Nov 3, 2004!! Thus D-10 Jupiter in transit> *exactly* touched rasi Moon of natal chart, when Kerry accepted defeat!> > > > Not only that, look at the reverse link. In the natal D-10, Jupiter> at 10Cp24 and Mars at 12Cp26 give a raja yoga and Jaya yoga. The> transit Jupiter of rasi chart was at 14 deg and aspecting natal> dasamsa Mars reasonably closely (14 deg to 12.5 deg). Jupiter was> placed such that his rasi chart longitude had a close aspect on natal> dasamsa longitude of Mars and his dasamsa chart longitude had an> unbelievably close conjunction with natal rasi Moon. Moon and Mars are> the two planets involved in raja yogas with Jupiter in natal> rasi/dasamsa charts.> > > > By correlating the longitudes of natal and transit planets in> rasi/divisions, you can see some important events. God willing, I will> talk about my findings in greater detail when (if) the right time comes.> > > > If you find this interesting, do read the following post for the> background/basics/motivation:> > > > vedic astrology/message/65934> > > > or> > > > /message/9320> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha> > -------------------------------> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org> > -------------------------------> > > > > Dear members,> > > > > > How to apply transiting planets in D charts? For example- if D 10, > > > lagna is Scorpio and Exalted moon is in Vrishbha. Now as we know, > > > saturn is transiting in Cancer, Jupiter in Libra and Rahu in Pisces. > > > Now, will we apply these in D 10 as Saturn in Cancer or we will> take D > > > 10 for saturn's current transit and apply the trasit for > > > interpretation. In other words, do we consider, that for the example > > > above, sade sati in D 10 over(While reading, Deva Keralam, it sounded > > > to me like this only).> > > > > > regards / Prafulla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Namaste all, I understand that this is slightly tangential to the topic being discussed, but I couldn't resist asking - Does anyone have an electronic copy of Deva Keralam? Thanks much. May Sri Vishnu bless us all in this new year, Reema. vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" <prafulla.gang@r...> wrote: > > Dear members, > > How to apply transiting planets in D charts? For example- if D 10, > lagna is Scorpio and Exalted moon is in Vrishbha. Now as we know, > saturn is transiting in Cancer, Jupiter in Libra and Rahu in Pisces. > Now, will we apply these in D 10 as Saturn in Cancer or we will take D > 10 for saturn's current transit and apply the trasit for > interpretation. In other words, do we consider, that for the example > above, sade sati in D 10 over(While reading, Deva Keralam, it sounded > to me like this only). > > regards / Prafulla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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