Rasi and div charts (Pradeep) -spirituality

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Dear Pradeep

 

Forgot to add one more point. To understand divisional charts, one

must understand so many things about spiritualty, existence, causal,

subtle and gross bodies first. You must have first hand experience

of these things. You must be aware of the various "minds", the

various levels of consciousness which can be obtained only by sadhana

and not theoretical intellecual mumbo jumbo.

 

I am talking about spirituality which you sadly lack. This is not a

judgement, but an observation.

 

Best wishes

partha

 

 

vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu@g...> wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep

>

> I wish you were the old Pradeep who used to have respect for

> everyone, who used to open to all and not sticking to only one

rigid

> stand.

>

> For your kind information i never used to believe in Varga charts

> myself, and had debates with Sri Sanjay Rath and Narasimha Rao, but

i

> did not take "Ages" to understand why varga charts exist.

>

> All it took me was one year of understanding theory and immediately

> applying them on practical charts. I dont know about you, but i

used

> to get chart requests for about a dozen a day and that is why i was

> able to implement whatever i learnt quickly to see whether they

were

> working.

> I used varga charts, they worked for me, that is enough for me. I

am

> not like you, endlessly debating to prove superiority. I am not in

> ego games that you indulge in. All i am interested is whether the

> theories applicability on "REAL CHARTS"

> Best wishes

> partha

>

>

> vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Partha ji

> >

> > To demonstrate practically is ofcourse the end and is what that

all

> of

> > us desire.Me and you have participated in many quizzes and have

> failed

> > as well as succeeded.

> > Now let us come to theory.What Sreenadh is talking is not his

> > theory.Those are classical statements.But How about Varga

Charts!!!.

> > Before trying to criticize Sreenadh did you have a good word for

him

> > for his efforts.Do you accept knowledge only from one

> > direction.Knowledge does not belong to any group or institution.

> It

> > has been there and will remain forever.We should be thankful to

the

> > facilitators whether it is SJC or Sreenadh.We should never think

we

> > are the best learned.You are not prepared to see the shlokas from

> > KalyanVarma - hundreds of them!!!.You do not want to listen to

> > others.You are everready to jump and criticise.You were hailing

shri

> > Narasimhas mail and boasting that everyone should accept that

Varga

> > Charts exist.You are free to hold your view.But can you

> constructively

> > debate based on Classics.What is your view - Do you accept 2

Zodiacs

> > as advised by Shri Rath(One in zodiacal order and other anti

> zodiacal).

> >

> > I could only wish if you were the same old Partha who could even

> learn

> > from a barber.Please read the views and then criticize

> > constructively.Even if we have been beleiveing for long,WRONG is

> WRONG

> > and cannot withstand the tests of time.This is applicable for your

> > understanding as well as mine.

> >

> > When well read astrologers like Sreenadh are commenting,kindly

have

> > Kripa to see the merit.Sound basics leads to better

> understanding.Else

> > all the hard work has to be reverted.Thus theory has value

> especially

> > when fundamentals are misinterpreted.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Pradeep

> > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> > <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir

> > >

> > > Astrology will not be proved by participating in theoretical

> debates.

> > > Participate in few puzzles and quizzes and show us your talent

> > > instead of talking about theories

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > > partha

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Sreenadh"

<sreelid>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandra Sekhar ji,

> > > > You said it right! Why it is so? That is why it is necessary

> to

> > > have

> > > > a look back at the basics.

> > > > In astrology any one with little effort could clearly

> visualize

> > > that,

> > > > basically 4 items are important as they serve as the

> significators

> > > of

> > > > many things. They are 1-Rasi, 2-Bhava, 3-Planet. To draw some

> real

> > > > predictions out of the numerous things for which these three

> are

> > > > significators 7 combinations as I have described in my

previous

> > > mail

> > > > is used. The same principle is used to deal with Vargas as

> well.

> > > All

> > > > other branches are just secondary to this fundamental idea.

> This

> > > way

> > > > can't you see how simple it is to get a complete picture of

> > > astrology

> > > > ?! Now we should start learning each of these branches in

> detail. I

> > > > think it is the right approach as the Rishi horas supports

this

> > > view.

> > > > Now coming to BPHS, Vedic/Non-vedic controversy or the like,

> it is

> > > > more related to history than to astrology. Only thing the

real

> > > > astrologers should worry about is - how to predict (with Sign-

> House-

> > > > Plant etc and the whole bunch of data we have) correctly?

> Mostly

> > > they

> > > > would be worried about one more thing as well in the current

> > > > situation, that is - whether astrology is correct or not? In

> > > > controversies like the one Mohan ji initiates (BPHS,

Vedic/Non-

> > > vedic

> > > > controversy etc) we should participate with enthusiasm as it

is

> not

> > > > directly linked to astrology (if astrology is right).

> > > > Love,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Message: 24

> > > > Fri, 28 Oct 2005 04:09:25 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > Chandra Sekhar <chandra_sekhar1970>

> > > > Re: Re: Rasi and div charts (Pradeep) Shri

Narasimha -

> 4

> > > >

> > > > Dear friends,

> > > >

> > > > It is confusion everywhere. Some Jyotsi says there was no

> Parasara

> > > > Hora, some claims Rasi and some says only Varga. How come the

> > > experts

> > > > speak

> > > > so incoherently? All qualified people, very intelligent

people

> who

> > > > have

> > > > shown their excellence in modern scientific sphere and

talking

> like

> > > > blind men who have gone to see the elephant. What can be more

> > > funny?

> > > > What is fundamental in astrology? Planetary positions or

their

> > > > derivatives? What is more important - actual date of birth or

> > > annual

> > > > birth day?

> > > > In science, a spurious text book will be identified and

weeded

> out

> > > > immediately. Whatever a text book may contradict, two

teachers

> of

> > > > Physics

> > > > won't contradict the Newton's laws. But here the qualified

> > > astrologers

> > > > are in conflict over fundamental things.

> > > > Shall astrology come out of all these uncertainties? Are

these

> > > > uncertainties a product of astrology itself or of the minds

of

> > > > astrologers?

> > > >

> > > > chandra sekhar

> > > >

> > >

> >

>