Rasi and div charts (Pradeep) Shri Parthasarathy

October 29, 2005

Dear Partha ji

To demonstrate practically is ofcourse the end and is what that all of

us desire.Me and you have participated in many quizzes and have failed

as well as succeeded.

Now let us come to theory.What Sreenadh is talking is not his

theory.Those are classical statements.But How about Varga Charts!!!.

Before trying to criticize Sreenadh did you have a good word for him

for his efforts.Do you accept knowledge only from one

direction.Knowledge does not belong to any group or institution. It

has been there and will remain forever.We should be thankful to the

facilitators whether it is SJC or Sreenadh.We should never think we

are the best learned.You are not prepared to see the shlokas from

KalyanVarma - hundreds of them!!!.You do not want to listen to

others.You are everready to jump and criticise.You were hailing shri

Narasimhas mail and boasting that everyone should accept that Varga

Charts exist.You are free to hold your view.But can you constructively

debate based on Classics.What is your view - Do you accept 2 Zodiacs

as advised by Shri Rath(One in zodiacal order and other anti zodiacal).

I could only wish if you were the same old Partha who could even learn

from a barber.Please read the views and then criticize

constructively.Even if we have been beleiveing for long,WRONG is WRONG

and cannot withstand the tests of time.This is applicable for your

understanding as well as mine.

When well read astrologers like Sreenadh are commenting,kindly have

Kripa to see the merit.Sound basics leads to better understanding.Else

all the hard work has to be reverted.Thus theory has value especially

when fundamentals are misinterpreted.

Thanks

Pradeep

vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu@g...> wrote:

>

> Sir

>

> Astrology will not be proved by participating in theoretical debates.

> Participate in few puzzles and quizzes and show us your talent

> instead of talking about theories

>

> Best wishes

> partha

>

> vedic astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreelid>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandra Sekhar ji,

> > You said it right! Why it is so? That is why it is necessary to

> have

> > a look back at the basics.

> > In astrology any one with little effort could clearly visualize

> that,

> > basically 4 items are important as they serve as the significators

> of

> > many things. They are 1-Rasi, 2-Bhava, 3-Planet. To draw some real

> > predictions out of the numerous things for which these three are

> > significators 7 combinations as I have described in my previous

> mail

> > is used. The same principle is used to deal with Vargas as well.

> All

> > other branches are just secondary to this fundamental idea. This

> way

> > can't you see how simple it is to get a complete picture of

> astrology

> > ?! Now we should start learning each of these branches in detail. I

> > think it is the right approach as the Rishi horas supports this

> view.

> > Now coming to BPHS, Vedic/Non-vedic controversy or the like, it is

> > more related to history than to astrology. Only thing the real

> > astrologers should worry about is - how to predict (with Sign-House-

> > Plant etc and the whole bunch of data we have) correctly? Mostly

> they

> > would be worried about one more thing as well in the current

> > situation, that is - whether astrology is correct or not? In

> > controversies like the one Mohan ji initiates (BPHS, Vedic/Non-

> vedic

> > controversy etc) we should participate with enthusiasm as it is not

> > directly linked to astrology (if astrology is right).

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > Message: 24

> > Fri, 28 Oct 2005 04:09:25 -0700 (PDT)

> > Chandra Sekhar <chandra_sekhar1970>

> > Re: Re: Rasi and div charts (Pradeep) Shri Narasimha - 4

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > It is confusion everywhere. Some Jyotsi says there was no Parasara

> > Hora, some claims Rasi and some says only Varga. How come the

> experts

> > speak

> > so incoherently? All qualified people, very intelligent people who

> > have

> > shown their excellence in modern scientific sphere and talking like

> > blind men who have gone to see the elephant. What can be more

> funny?

> > What is fundamental in astrology? Planetary positions or their

> > derivatives? What is more important - actual date of birth or

> annual

> > birth day?

> > In science, a spurious text book will be identified and weeded out

> > immediately. Whatever a text book may contradict, two teachers of

> > Physics

> > won't contradict the Newton's laws. But here the qualified

> astrologers

> > are in conflict over fundamental things.

> > Shall astrology come out of all these uncertainties? Are these

> > uncertainties a product of astrology itself or of the minds of

> > astrologers?

> >

> > chandra sekhar

> >

>

October 29, 2005

Dear Pradeep

I wish you were the old Pradeep who used to have respect for

everyone, who used to open to all and not sticking to only one rigid

stand.

For your kind information i never used to believe in Varga charts

myself, and had debates with Sri Sanjay Rath and Narasimha Rao, but i

did not take "Ages" to understand why varga charts exist.

All it took me was one year of understanding theory and immediately

applying them on practical charts. I dont know about you, but i used

to get chart requests for about a dozen a day and that is why i was

able to implement whatever i learnt quickly to see whether they were

working.

I used varga charts, they worked for me, that is enough for me. I am

not like you, endlessly debating to prove superiority. I am not in

ego games that you indulge in. All i am interested is whether the

theories applicability on "REAL CHARTS"

Best wishes

partha

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

>

> Dear Partha ji

>

> To demonstrate practically is ofcourse the end and is what that all

of

> us desire.Me and you have participated in many quizzes and have

failed

> as well as succeeded.

> Now let us come to theory.What Sreenadh is talking is not his

> theory.Those are classical statements.But How about Varga Charts!!!.

> Before trying to criticize Sreenadh did you have a good word for him

> for his efforts.Do you accept knowledge only from one

> direction.Knowledge does not belong to any group or institution.

It

> has been there and will remain forever.We should be thankful to the

> facilitators whether it is SJC or Sreenadh.We should never think we

> are the best learned.You are not prepared to see the shlokas from

> KalyanVarma - hundreds of them!!!.You do not want to listen to

> others.You are everready to jump and criticise.You were hailing shri

> Narasimhas mail and boasting that everyone should accept that Varga

> Charts exist.You are free to hold your view.But can you

constructively

> debate based on Classics.What is your view - Do you accept 2 Zodiacs

> as advised by Shri Rath(One in zodiacal order and other anti

zodiacal).

>

> I could only wish if you were the same old Partha who could even

learn

> from a barber.Please read the views and then criticize

> constructively.Even if we have been beleiveing for long,WRONG is

WRONG

> and cannot withstand the tests of time.This is applicable for your

> understanding as well as mine.

>

> When well read astrologers like Sreenadh are commenting,kindly have

> Kripa to see the merit.Sound basics leads to better

understanding.Else

> all the hard work has to be reverted.Thus theory has value

especially

> when fundamentals are misinterpreted.

>

> Thanks

> Pradeep

> vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Sir

> >

> > Astrology will not be proved by participating in theoretical

debates.

> > Participate in few puzzles and quizzes and show us your talent

> > instead of talking about theories

> >

> > Best wishes

> > partha

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreelid>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chandra Sekhar ji,

> > > You said it right! Why it is so? That is why it is necessary

to

> > have

> > > a look back at the basics.

> > > In astrology any one with little effort could clearly

visualize

> > that,

> > > basically 4 items are important as they serve as the

significators

> > of

> > > many things. They are 1-Rasi, 2-Bhava, 3-Planet. To draw some

real

> > > predictions out of the numerous things for which these three

are

> > > significators 7 combinations as I have described in my previous

> > mail

> > > is used. The same principle is used to deal with Vargas as

well.

> > All

> > > other branches are just secondary to this fundamental idea.

This

> > way

> > > can't you see how simple it is to get a complete picture of

> > astrology

> > > ?! Now we should start learning each of these branches in

detail. I

> > > think it is the right approach as the Rishi horas supports this

> > view.

> > > Now coming to BPHS, Vedic/Non-vedic controversy or the like,

it is

> > > more related to history than to astrology. Only thing the real

> > > astrologers should worry about is - how to predict (with Sign-

House-

> > > Plant etc and the whole bunch of data we have) correctly?

Mostly

> > they

> > > would be worried about one more thing as well in the current

> > > situation, that is - whether astrology is correct or not? In

> > > controversies like the one Mohan ji initiates (BPHS, Vedic/Non-

> > vedic

> > > controversy etc) we should participate with enthusiasm as it is

not

> > > directly linked to astrology (if astrology is right).

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > Message: 24

> > > Fri, 28 Oct 2005 04:09:25 -0700 (PDT)

> > > Chandra Sekhar <chandra_sekhar1970>

> > > Re: Re: Rasi and div charts (Pradeep) Shri Narasimha -

4

> > >

> > > Dear friends,

> > >

> > > It is confusion everywhere. Some Jyotsi says there was no

Parasara

> > > Hora, some claims Rasi and some says only Varga. How come the

> > experts

> > > speak

> > > so incoherently? All qualified people, very intelligent people

who

> > > have

> > > shown their excellence in modern scientific sphere and talking

like

> > > blind men who have gone to see the elephant. What can be more

> > funny?

> > > What is fundamental in astrology? Planetary positions or their

> > > derivatives? What is more important - actual date of birth or

> > annual

> > > birth day?

> > > In science, a spurious text book will be identified and weeded

out

> > > immediately. Whatever a text book may contradict, two teachers

of

> > > Physics

> > > won't contradict the Newton's laws. But here the qualified

> > astrologers

> > > are in conflict over fundamental things.

> > > Shall astrology come out of all these uncertainties? Are these

> > > uncertainties a product of astrology itself or of the minds of

> > > astrologers?

> > >

> > > chandra sekhar

> > >

> >

>

October 29, 2005

Why are u angry on Partha , He is great man , If u think i am boasting his side

then just go some previous archives and u urself will notice his greatness in

Predictions , he is right point of view , mere Theoritical Lecture is of no use

unless some practical.

He has given correct prediction to many sufferers in actual life and whatever he

has predicted has come true Sir, Trust my words.

I am talking absolutely 100% true.There are some more like Partha Guruji on this group.

Best Regards,

Shalu.

Shalmali Pethe.

(bombay)

P.S:Kindly do not mail me I am going out of town and will be back after 25

november.so whatever bad words u want to speak that will be after 25 till then

Pray Lord Ganapati.

vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote:

Dear Partha jiTo demonstrate practically is ofcourse the end and is what that

all ofus desire.Me and you have participated in many quizzes and have failedas

well as succeeded.Now let us come to theory.What Sreenadh is talking is not

histheory.Those are classical statements.But How about Varga Charts!!!.Before

trying to criticize Sreenadh did you have a good word for himfor his efforts.Do

you accept knowledge only from onedirection.Knowledge does not belong to any

group or institution. Ithas been there and will remain forever.We should

be thankful to thefacilitators whether it is SJC or Sreenadh.We should never

think weare the best learned.You are not prepared to see the shlokas

fromKalyanVarma - hundreds of them!!!.You do not want to listen toothers.You

are everready to jump and criticise.You

were hailing shriNarasimhas mail and boasting that everyone should accept that

VargaCharts exist.You are free to hold your view.But can you

constructivelydebate based on Classics.What is your view - Do you accept 2

Zodiacsas advised by Shri Rath(One in zodiacal order and other anti zodiacal).I

could only wish if you were the same old Partha who could even learnfrom a

barber.Please read the views and then criticizeconstructively.Even if we have

been beleiveing for long,WRONG is WRONGand cannot withstand the tests of

time.This is applicable for yourunderstanding as well as mine.When well read

astrologers like Sreenadh are commenting,kindly haveKripa to see the

merit.Sound basics leads to better understanding.Elseall the hard work has to

be reverted.Thus theory has value especiallywhen fundamentals are

misinterpreted.ThanksPradeepvedic astrology, "V.Partha

sarathy"<partvinu@g...> wrote:>> Sir> > Astrology will not be proved by

participating in theoretical debates.> Participate in few puzzles and quizzes

and show us your talent > instead of talking about theories> > Best wishes>

partha> > > vedic astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreelid> >

wrote:> >> > Dear Chandra Sekhar ji,> > You said it right! Why it is so? That

is why it is necessary to > have > > a look back at the basics.> > In

astrology any one with little effort could clearly visualize > that, > >

basically 4 items are important as they serve as the significators > of > >

many things. They are 1-Rasi, 2-Bhava, 3-Planet. To draw some real > >

predictions out of the numerous things for which these three are > >

significators 7

combinations as I have described in my previous > mail > > is used. The same

principle is used to deal with Vargas as well. > All > > other branches are

just secondary to this fundamental idea. This > way > > can't you see how

simple it is to get a complete picture of > astrology> > ?! Now we should start

learning each of these branches in detail. I > > think it is the right approach

as the Rishi horas supports this > view.> > Now coming to BPHS,

Vedic/Non-vedic controversy or the like, it is > > more related to history than

to astrology. Only thing the real > > astrologers should worry about is - how to

predict (with Sign-House-> > Plant etc and the whole bunch of data we have)

correctly? Mostly > they > > would be worried about one more thing as well in

the current > > situation, that is - whether astrology is correct or not?

In > > controversies like the one Mohan ji initiates (BPHS, Vedic/Non-> vedic >

> controversy etc) we should participate with enthusiasm as it is not > >

directly linked to astrology (if astrology is right).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> > >

> > > Message: 24 > > Fri, 28 Oct 2005 04:09:25 -0700 (PDT)> >

Chandra Sekhar <chandra_sekhar1970>> > Re: Re: Rasi and div

charts (Pradeep) Shri Narasimha - 4> > > > Dear friends, > > > > It is

confusion everywhere. Some Jyotsi says there was no Parasara > > Hora, some

claims Rasi and some says only Varga. How come the > experts > > speak > > so

incoherently? All qualified people, very intelligent people who > > have > >

shown

their excellence in modern scientific sphere and talking like > > blind men who

have gone to see the elephant. What can be more > funny? > > What is

fundamental in astrology? Planetary positions or their > > derivatives? What is

more important - actual date of birth or > annual > > birth day? > > In

science, a spurious text book will be identified and weeded out > >

immediately. Whatever a text book may contradict, two teachers of > > Physics >

> won't contradict the Newton's laws. But here the qualified > astrologers > >

are in conflict over fundamental things. > > Shall astrology come out of all

these uncertainties? Are these > > uncertainties a product of astrology itself

or of the minds of > > astrologers?> > > > chandra sekhar> >>

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October 29, 2005

Dear Sir,