Rasi and div charts (Manoj and Vijaydas) -Lagnas

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You talked about "Kerala Proud" & i remembered that proud has become so much

that many of abroad living Kerala brothers likes to call themselves as NRK

instead of NRI.

 

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UtpalSreenadh <sreelid > wrote:

Dear All,I am also supportive of Sri Finn's openion "the aspects are only to be

used in the signs(Rashi) and each of the Shadvargas occupied by the Ascendant

are therefore projected into the natal chart (Rashi) from which it is observed

if one planet is aspecting all the six Lagna-Rashis at the same time. It was

normal practice to project Varga-positions into the Rashi-chart this way. This

can be observed in the 16th century nadis like Chandrakalanadi, Bhrigunadi,

Dhruvanadi etc."I would like to add that it is the practice followed in Kerala

even now, and that is why we are proud of our astrological heritage, and often

states that if you want to see astrology in its uncorrupted form you should

come to Kerala!As even the single quote supplied by PVR stands refuted, we

should understand that the D-charts have nothing to do with the

original concept of Vargas. The Vargas are important but not the D-charts (or

call it Varga charts). In such yogas mentioned in BPHS all aspects should be

considered from natal Asc as Sri Finn points out. Vargas helps us to mix and

match the character and qualities of the 12 signs and arrive at specific

results. There is not even a single sloka that supports the use of D-charts

anywhere in classics.I appreciate the sincerity of Sri Finn, Panditji and

Pradeep in this regard.Love,SreenadhMessage: 11 Thu, 27 Oct

2005 13:11:50 -0000 "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep >Re: Rasi and div charts (Manoj and

Vijaydas) -Lagnas shadvargasNamaste PanditjiYes it is true.Also it will make

more astrologers take a relook at the basics.Let us hope for the

best.Pradeep--- In

vedic astrology, Panditji <navagraha@g...> wrote:>> Namaste

Vijaydas,> It is good to see a jyotishi of the calibre and experience as Finn

Wandahl> comment on this issue. It throws a new light on what we had thought

of> divisions of rashi for some time now.> ...> > On 10/26/05,

vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> >> > Dear shri Finn> >> > It

is great to see this mail and explanation.Me too have similar> >

understanding.But your explanation has more validity due to> > experience and

Nadi references.> >> > Respect> > Pradeep> >> >> > --- In

, Finn Wandahl <wandahl@p...>> > wrote:> > >> > >

It seems there is some discussion about sloka 13 in the> > chapter on

Raja> > > Yogas in BPHS. This is how I think it should be interpreted:> > >> > >

Sloka 13: "If the Shadvargas of the Lagna are occupied or aspected> > by one

and> > > the same planet a Raja Yoga is formed."> > >> > > As I read this, the

aspects are only to be used in the signs> > (Rashi) and> > > each of the

Shadvargas occupied by the Ascendant are therefore> > projected into> > > the

natal chart (Rashi) from which it is observed if one planet is> > aspecting> >

> all the six Lagna-Rashis at the same time.> > > It was normal practice to

project Varga-positions into the> > Rashi-chart> > > this way. This can be

observed in the 16th century nadis like> > Chandrakalanadi,> > > Bhrigunadi,

Dhruvanadi etc.> > > The previous sloka (sl. 12) gives a somewhat

similar kind of> > Raja Yoga> > > based on the Ascendant, Hora Lagna and Ghatika

Lagna being> > aspected by one and> > > the same planet. Here we are also

dealing with different kinds of> > Lagnas> > > aspected by the same planet in

the Rashi Chart.> > >> > > Finn> > >> >> >> > --- In

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"> >

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > >> > > Dear respected members> > >> > > In

the past, ''Church'' had a belief that ''Earth is Flat''.It was> > > difficult

to prove ''Earth is round'',due to obvious reasons.> > >> > > In Saravali( a

very detailed text),Kalyan Varma has given hundreds> > > of examples on how to

study vargas.Saptamsha example(posted in> > > Jyotish group

site), clearly shows where a house has to be counted> > > and how a planet's

saptamsha is to be studied.BPHS translator> > > himself had failed to

understand the single shloka,which we are> > > referring to as proof.> > >> > >

Are we prepared to address the basic query - ''How can 2 planets,> > > placed 15

degrees apart,cast full (1/7th),aspect''.If we attempt> > > this simple question

we will understand -BPHS,Kalyan> > > Varma,D.V.SubbuRao,Santhanam etc and

numerous local traditional> > > astrologers regarding the debated topic.> > >>

> > Those who are selective in accepting questions(only comfortable> > ones)> >

> may kindly ignore this mail.> > >> > > Thanks> > > Pradeep> > >> > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R.

Rao"> > > <pvr@c...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaste friends,> > > >> > > > So it

seems to be time now for the customary "divisional chart"> > > debate on

! This debate keeps coming up again and> > again> > > on every

Jyotish related list.> > > >> > > > There are clear and explicit quotes in BPHS

on houses in navamsa> > > and trimsamsa. There is a raja yoga mentioned based on

the same> > > planet occupying or aspecting lagna in all the six divisional> >

charts> > > of shadvarga group. Thus, houses and aspects in divisional charts>

> > have a sanction from Parasara. Moreover, the very fact that> > Parasara> >

> talked about divisional charts before mentioning houses, aspects> > etc> > >

implies that all

those apply to rasi as well as other divisions.> > > >> > > > However, some

people seem to prefer to ignore these things and> > > shout from rooftops that

finding houses and aspects in divisions> > is> > > against Parasara's

teachings. Ironically, some people who do use> > > houses and aspects in

navamsa chart seem to support this view> > w.r.t.> > > other divisional charts.

God knows why they use one rule for> > navamsa> > > and another for other

divisional charts.> > > >> > > > As long as there are nine planets, there will

be all kinds of> > > people with all kinds of views and agendas. After several

days, I> > > have a few minutes of time today to write one post. So let me> >

spend> > > those few minutes on something more productive than debating

with> > > them.> > > >> > > > > What has always occurred to me when reading

BPHS, apart from> > the> > > > > need to carefully discern the translators

notes and ideas, and> > > how> > > > > these might potentially introduce a bias

in the translation> > and> > > > > interpretation, is the lack of application

specifically> > nowadays> > > of> > > > > the use of the ruling deities in all

the books I have read> > which> > > say> > > > > they are derived from the

classical texts.> > > >> > > > The ruling deities of the amsas are IMHO vital

in judging> > > divisional charts. For example, the same planet in the 10th

house> > in> > > dasamsa can show different careers based on the ruling

deity. I> > > still need to understand the use of ruling deities in some> > >

divisions, but I am comfortable with my understanding in some> > > divisions.

An example is dasamsa. The rulers of the ten directions> > > (Indra, Agni, Yama

etc) get rulership over the ten dasamsas in a> > > sign. I use them heavily in

my dasamsa readings.> > > >> > > > Some of my understanding of the dasamsa

ruling deities was> > shared> > > in my free Jyotish lessons (link below).

Anybody interested in the> > > dasamsa ruling deities is welcome to use the mp3

recordings of my> > > lessons.> > > >> > > > * * *> > > >> > > > On a separate

note, there were several homas this weekend at the> > > Sri Lakshmi temple in

Ashland (near Boston). It was a blissful>

> > weekend. The Navagraha Homam on Saturday morning was particularly> > >

excellent. At the Poornahuti time, there was a very bright fire.> > It> > >

suddenly became unbelievably hot for a few seconds. I have seen> > many> > >

homas with an even bigger fire, but I never felt THAT kind of> > heat.> > >

Even at the Chandi Homam on the previous night, fire was bigger> > but> > > not

as hot at all. I mean, there is no comparison. I never felt> > that> > > kind of

heat near any fire in any homam in my entire life. Not> > just> > > me, everyone

standing next to fire found it unbelievably hot for a> > > few seconds. It was

so hot that we all just took a step back> > > involuntarily. Also, one of the

pictures of the fire from that> > time> > > looks a bit like Sun riding a

chariot of horses. We believe that> > Sun> > > god actually came in the fire at

the time of Poornahuti.> > > >> > > > The whole weekend was actually quite

blissful. The rituals were> > > conducted by priests headed by Swami Sadasiva

Sivachariar, head> > > priest of Kalikambal temple at Chennai. All the

experiences show> > > that it is actually possible to get the gods in fire when

a homam> > is> > > done sincerely.> > > >> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on

us,> > > > Narasimha

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