Rasi and div charts (Manoj and Vijaydas)

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Namaste friends,

 

So it seems to be time now for the customary "divisional chart" debate on

! This debate keeps coming up again and again on every Jyotish

related list.

 

There are clear and explicit quotes in BPHS on houses in navamsa and trimsamsa.

There is a raja yoga mentioned based on the same planet occupying or aspecting

lagna in all the six divisional charts of shadvarga group. Thus, houses and

aspects in divisional charts have a sanction from Parasara. Moreover, the very

fact that Parasara talked about divisional charts before mentioning houses,

aspects etc implies that all those apply to rasi as well as other divisions.

 

However, some people seem to prefer to ignore these things and shout from

rooftops that finding houses and aspects in divisions is against Parasara's

teachings. Ironically, some people who do use houses and aspects in navamsa

chart seem to support this view w.r.t. other divisional charts. God knows why

they use one rule for navamsa and another for other divisional charts.

 

As long as there are nine planets, there will be all kinds of people with all

kinds of views and agendas. After several days, I have a few minutes of time

today to write one post. So let me spend those few minutes on something more

productive than debating with them.

 

> What has always occurred to me when reading BPHS, apart from the > need to

carefully discern the translators notes and ideas, and how > these might

potentially introduce a bias in the translation and > interpretation, is the

lack of application specifically nowadays of > the use of the ruling deities in

all the books I have read which say > they are derived from the classical texts.

 

The ruling deities of the amsas are IMHO vital in judging divisional charts. For

example, the same planet in the 10th house in dasamsa can show different careers

based on the ruling deity. I still need to understand the use of ruling deities

in some divisions, but I am comfortable with my understanding in some

divisions. An example is dasamsa. The rulers of the ten directions (Indra,

Agni, Yama etc) get rulership over the ten dasamsas in a sign. I use them

heavily in my dasamsa readings.

 

Some of my understanding of the dasamsa ruling deities was shared in my free

Jyotish lessons (link below). Anybody interested in the dasamsa ruling deities

is welcome to use the mp3 recordings of my lessons.

 

* * *

 

On a separate note, there were several homas this weekend at the Sri Lakshmi

temple in Ashland (near Boston). It was a blissful weekend. The Navagraha Homam

on Saturday morning was particularly excellent. At the Poornahuti time, there

was a very bright fire. It suddenly became unbelievably hot for a few seconds.

I have seen many homas with an even bigger fire, but I never felt THAT kind of

heat. Even at the Chandi Homam on the previous night, fire was bigger but not

as hot at all. I mean, there is no comparison. I never felt that kind of heat

near any fire in any homam in my entire life. Not just me, everyone standing

next to fire found it unbelievably hot for a few seconds. It was so hot that we

all just took a step back involuntarily. Also, one of the pictures of the fire

from that time looks a bit like Sun riding a chariot of horses. We believe that

Sun god actually came in the fire at the time of Poornahuti.

 

The whole weekend was actually quite blissful. The rituals were conducted by

priests headed by Swami Sadasiva Sivachariar, head priest of Kalikambal temple

at Chennai. All the experiences show that it is actually possible to get the

gods in fire when a homam is done sincerely.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha

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Dear respected members

 

In the past, ''Church'' had a belief that ''Earth is Flat''.It was

difficult to prove ''Earth is round'',due to obvious reasons.

 

In Saravali( a very detailed text),Kalyan Varma has given hundreds

of examples on how to study vargas.Saptamsha example(posted in

Jyotish group site), clearly shows where a house has to be counted

and how a planet's saptamsha is to be studied.BPHS translator

himself had failed to understand the single shloka,which we are

referring to as proof.

 

Are we prepared to address the basic query - ''How can 2 planets,

placed 15 degrees apart,cast full (1/7th),aspect''.If we attempt

this simple question we will understand -BPHS,Kalyan

Varma,D.V.SubbuRao,Santhanam etc and numerous local traditional

astrologers regarding the debated topic.

 

Those who are selective in accepting questions(only comfortable ones)

may kindly ignore this mail.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

>

> Namaste friends,

>

> So it seems to be time now for the customary "divisional chart"

debate on ! This debate keeps coming up again and again

on every Jyotish related list.

>

> There are clear and explicit quotes in BPHS on houses in navamsa

and trimsamsa. There is a raja yoga mentioned based on the same

planet occupying or aspecting lagna in all the six divisional charts

of shadvarga group. Thus, houses and aspects in divisional charts

have a sanction from Parasara. Moreover, the very fact that Parasara

talked about divisional charts before mentioning houses, aspects etc

implies that all those apply to rasi as well as other divisions.

>

> However, some people seem to prefer to ignore these things and

shout from rooftops that finding houses and aspects in divisions is

against Parasara's teachings. Ironically, some people who do use

houses and aspects in navamsa chart seem to support this view w.r.t.

other divisional charts. God knows why they use one rule for navamsa

and another for other divisional charts.

>

> As long as there are nine planets, there will be all kinds of

people with all kinds of views and agendas. After several days, I

have a few minutes of time today to write one post. So let me spend

those few minutes on something more productive than debating with

them.

>

> > What has always occurred to me when reading BPHS, apart from the

> > need to carefully discern the translators notes and ideas, and

how

> > these might potentially introduce a bias in the translation and

> > interpretation, is the lack of application specifically nowadays

of

> > the use of the ruling deities in all the books I have read which

say

> > they are derived from the classical texts.

>

> The ruling deities of the amsas are IMHO vital in judging

divisional charts. For example, the same planet in the 10th house in

dasamsa can show different careers based on the ruling deity. I

still need to understand the use of ruling deities in some

divisions, but I am comfortable with my understanding in some

divisions. An example is dasamsa. The rulers of the ten directions

(Indra, Agni, Yama etc) get rulership over the ten dasamsas in a

sign. I use them heavily in my dasamsa readings.

>

> Some of my understanding of the dasamsa ruling deities was shared

in my free Jyotish lessons (link below). Anybody interested in the

dasamsa ruling deities is welcome to use the mp3 recordings of my

lessons.

>

> * * *

>

> On a separate note, there were several homas this weekend at the

Sri Lakshmi temple in Ashland (near Boston). It was a blissful

weekend. The Navagraha Homam on Saturday morning was particularly

excellent. At the Poornahuti time, there was a very bright fire. It

suddenly became unbelievably hot for a few seconds. I have seen many

homas with an even bigger fire, but I never felt THAT kind of heat.

Even at the Chandi Homam on the previous night, fire was bigger but

not as hot at all. I mean, there is no comparison. I never felt that

kind of heat near any fire in any homam in my entire life. Not just

me, everyone standing next to fire found it unbelievably hot for a

few seconds. It was so hot that we all just took a step back

involuntarily. Also, one of the pictures of the fire from that time

looks a bit like Sun riding a chariot of horses. We believe that Sun

god actually came in the fire at the time of Poornahuti.

>

> The whole weekend was actually quite blissful. The rituals were

conducted by priests headed by Swami Sadasiva Sivachariar, head

priest of Kalikambal temple at Chennai. All the experiences show

that it is actually possible to get the gods in fire when a homam is

done sincerely.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

> -------------------------------

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

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