Sage Parasra vs Sage Veda Vyas !!!---Brihat Prashara Hora shastra does not exist at all!

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Dear Mr. Karunaakaran Raghavan,

How on earth did you get the idea that sage Prashara

believed in astrology!

 

The Vishnu Purana, the only authentic work by Maharshi

Parashara does not refer to any work on astrology by

sage Parashara. On the other hand, it is full of

astronomical discussions about Rasichakra and the

seasons but ironically, there is no mention of any so

called nirayana Rashichakra, much less a Lahiri or

Ramana Rashichakra! All that he has done in the

Vishnu Purana is discussed thoroughly the phenomenon

of seasons and declared Mesha Sankanti as the day of

Spring Equinox -- mentioning specifically that the

day and night are equal on that date, and so on. What

is all the more surprising is that in that work viz.

Vishu Purana, also, the nakshatra chakra starts from

Krittika, just like it started in the Vedas, instead

of from the so called Ashvini division, as is

happening these days!

 

Similarly, Makar Sankranti has been depicted as a

synonym of the Uttarayana, the shortest day of the

year, dakshinayana and Karkat Sankanti are one and the

same thing i.e. the longest day of the year and Autumn

Equinox (Hemant Sampat) and Tula Sankranti have been

clubbed together making it very clear that there is no

other Tula Sankranti excepting the one on which days

and nights are equal!

 

Regarding Brihat Prashara Hora Shastra, supposed to

have been written by "Sage Prashara", Bhatotpala of

Kashmir had said in his commentary on the Brihat

Jatakam in the seventh century AD that he had heard

about some Parashari but it was not available

anywhere! That is why S. B. Dikshit in his "Bharatiya

Jyotish" says that if it was not available in the

seventh century, how could it be available now that is

in the nineteenth century, when he had compiled that

book!

 

The earliest edition of Brihat Prashara Hora Shastra

that is avilalbe these days with original Sanskrit

text is from Venkateshwara Press, Bombay, and the

preface of that books states clearly that it is (not

by Maharshi Parashara but) by some unknown author who

has collected different pieces of astrological

knowledge from different places and then put them

together under the name of "Brihat Parashara Hora

Shastra".

 

(Much like RavanaSamhita!)

 

To add insult to injury, that "Brihat Parashara Hora

Shastra" wants us to adopt Grahalaghava Ayanamsha and

aseverybody knows, Grahaghava of GaneshaDaivagya is a

sixteenth century work!

In other words, "Maharshi Parashar of Brihat

Prashara" is a "descendant of Ganesha Daivagya"!

 

Then there is anotehr Parashari written by Sitaram Jha

and pulbished by Master Khelari Lal and sons of

Varanasi with original Sanskrit shlokas and Hindi

translation. It is entirely different from that of

Venkateshwar Press edition. However, even Sitaram Jha

has not said anywhere that that work is by Parashara

Rishi!

 

The present English translation avilable in the market

is the one of the same work of Sita Ram Jha and it

prefers a Lahir Rayanamsha--which means Parashara

Rishi of that Brihat Parashari is a "descendant---a

follwer of---- Lahiri"

 

And that is that!

Dhanyavad.

Mohand Jyotishi

 

vedic astrology, KARUNAAKARAM

> RAAGHAVAM

> <munisevitham> wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>

> I was recently viewing the MAHA BHARAT Episode 4

> filmed by B.R.Chpra & Ravi Chopra( Epic's Hindi

> version with English caption) ---- in the beginning

> of

> the 4th episode Sage Vyas says to Mata Satyavati "

> time flows like a river …… it is better that man

> is

> unable to read future.What is fate to happen will

> happen,some times ignorance is bliss and some times

> pre knowledge is a cause for sorrow….fate means that

> only God knows what is in store for an individual

> .."

>

> The above purported dialogue of Sage Veda Vyas son

> of

> Sage Parasar depicts Him to be a non believer of

> Astrology ! Is it ture that Sage Veda Vyas was a non

> beliver of Astrology? While is father Patronized

> Astrology?

> If the Sage Veda Vyas is a non beliver of Astrology,

> that how come Indian Hindu Astrology could become a

> Vedaganga / Vedic –Astrology ! ?

>

> I request the veteran Astrologers to clarify my

> doubts.

>

> --- Gail Francisco <gailfrancisco> wrote:

>

> > Om namo bhagavate vasyudevaya

> >

> > Vyasa-SJC Circle, California, USA

> >

> > Jyotish Guru's: Freedom Tobias Cole & Lakshmi Kary

> > Address: 652, Norvell Street, El' Cerrito, CA

> 94530,

> > USA

> > Phone: 510-938-1570

> > 23 October, Sunday

> > Time: 11:00 am

> >

> > Vyasa study circle in California - San Francisco

> Bay

> > Area.

> >

> > Topic for discussion: Brihat Parasara Hora

> Shastra

> > and Panchanga

> > Please bring a copy of Visti Larsen's book,

> Jyotish

> > Fundamentals, Words of My Master

> >

> > Recording of the classes will be done for the

> > benefit of future Vyasa-SJC students and other

> > students in USA.

> >

> > Goal: To have 12 students (at least) as expert

> > Jyotishi's by the year 2007 (2 year target) having

> > good knowledge of Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra.

> >

> > All are welcome. There are no charges but students

> > can bring food and drink to share. Expect to spend

> > approximately 3-4 hours in circle.

> > *tat savitur varenyam*

> >

> >

> > Have a great evening.

> > Gail

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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NaNamaste

Thanks for your mail.My quest is to know :

>If the Sage Veda VyVyass a non bebelieverf Astrology,

> that how come Indian Hindu Astrology could become a

> VeVedaganga VeVedic Astrology ! ?

While my requests for above clarifications till rests

with the list,you have given me an opopportunityo

learn that the author's name of BHBHPSs

debatable.Since BPBPHServes my purpose,I shelve the

question of who authored it[bHBHPSfor the time being.

 

--- MoMohanyJyotishijyjyotishi1 wrote:

 

>

> Dear Mr. KaKarunaakaranaRaghavan

> How on earth did you get the idea that sage

PrPrashara> believed in astrology!

>

> The Vishnu Purana, the only authentic work by

> MaMaharshi> PaParasharaoes not refer to any work on

astrology by

> sage PaParashara On the other hand, it is full of

> astronomical discussions about RaRasichakrand the

> seasons but ironically, there is no mention of any

> so

> called ninirayanaaRashichakramuch less a LaLahirir

> RaRamanaaRashichakra All that he has done in the

> Vishnu Purana is discussed thoroughly the phenomenon

> of seasons and declared MeMeshaaSankantis the day of

> Spring Equinox -- mentioning specifically that the

> day and night are equal on that date, and so on.

> What

> is all the more surprising is that in that work viz.

> ViVishuurana, also, the nanakshatrahchakratarts from

> KrKrittikajust like it started in the Vedas, instead

> of from the so called AsAshviniivision, as is

> happening these days!

>

> Similarly, MaMakaraSankrantias been depicted as a

> synonym of the UtUttarayanathe shortest day of the

> year, dadakshinayanand KaKarkataSankantire one and

> the

> same thing i.e. the longest day of the year and

> Autumn

> Equinox (HeHemantaSampatand TuTulaaSankrantiave been

> clubbed together making it very clear that there is

> no

> other TuTulaaSankrantixcepting the one on which days

> and nights are equal!

>

> Regarding BrBrihatrPrasharaora ShShastrasupposed to

> have been written by "Sage PrPrashara BhBhatotpalaf

> Kashmir had said in his commentary on the BrBrihat>

JaJatakamn the seventh century AD that he had heard

> about some PaParashariut it was not available

> anywhere! That is why S. B. DiDikshitn his

> "BhBharatiya> JyJyotishsays that if it was not

available in the

> seventh century, how could it be available now that

> is

> in the nineteenth century, when he had compiled that

> book!

>

> The earliest edition of BrBrihatrPrasharaora

ShShastra> that is avavilalbehese days with original

Sanskrit

> text is from VeVenkateshwararess, Bombay, and the

> preface of that books states clearly that it is (not

> by MaMaharshiaParasharaut) by some unknown author

> who

> has collected different pieces of astrological

> knowledge from different places and then put them

> together under the name of "BrBrihataParasharaora

> ShShastra

>

> (Much like RaRavanaSamhita

>

> To add insult to injury, that "BrBrihataParasharaora

> ShShastrawants us to adopt GrGrahalaghavayAyanamsha>

and

> asaseverybodynows, GrGrahaghavaf GaGaneshaDaivagyas

> a

> sixteenth century work!

> In other words, "MaMaharshiaParasharf BrBrihat>

PrPrasharais a "descendant of Ganesha DaDaivagya

>

> Then there is ananotehraParashariritten by

SiSitaram> JhJha> and pupulbishedy Master

KhKhelariaLalnd sons of

> Varanasi with original Sanskrit shshlokasnd Hindi

> translation. It is entirely different from that of

> VeVenkateshwarress edition. However, even

SiSitaram> JhJha> has not said anywhere that that work

is by PaParashara> RiRishi

>

> The present English translation avavilablen the

> market

> is the one of the same work of SiSitaam JhJhand it

> prefers a LaLahiraRayanamshawhich means

PaParashara> RiRishif that BrBrihataParasharis a

"descendant---a

> fofollwerf---- LaLahiri

>

> And that is that!

> DhDhanyavad

> MoMohandyJyotishi>

> vevedicstrology@yaom,

> KAKARUNAAKARAM> > RARAAGHAVAM> > <mumunisevitham...>

wrote:

> >

> > NaNamaste

> >

> > I was recently viewing the MAMAHAHBHARATpisode 4

> > filmed by B.R.ChChpra Ravi Chopra( Epic's Hindi

> > version with English caption) ---- in the

> beginning

> > of

> > the 4ththpisode Sage VyVyasays to Mata SaSatyavati

> > time flows like a river …… it is better that man

> > is

> > unable to read future.What is fate to happen will

> > happen,some times ignorance is bliss and some

> times

> > prprenowledge is a cause for sorrow….fate means

> that

> > only God knows what is in store for an individual

> > .."

> >

> > The above purported didialoguef Sage Veda VyVyason

> > of

> > Sage PaParasarepicts Him to be a non believer of

> > Astrology ! Is it tuturehat Sage Veda VyVyasas a

> non

> > bebeliverf Astrology? While is father Patronized

> > Astrology?

> > If the Sage Veda VyVyass a non bebeliverf

> Astrology,

> > that how come Indian Hindu Astrology could become

> a

> > VeVedaganga VeVedic Astrology ! ?

> >

> > I request the veteran Astrologers to clarify my

> > doubts.

> >

> > --- Gail Francisco <gagailfrancisco...> wrote:

> >

> > > Om nanamohbhagavateavasyudevaya> > >

> > > VyVyasaJSJCircle, California, USA

> > >

> > > JyJyotishuru's: Freedom Tobias Cole & Lakshmi

> Kary

> > > Address: 652, NoNorvelltreet, El' CeCerritoCA

> > 94530,

> > > USA

> > > Phone: 510-938-1570

> > > 23 October, Sunday

> > > Time: 11:00 am

> > >

> > > VyVyasatudy circle in California - San Francisco

> > Bay

> > > Area.

> > >

> > > Topic for discussion: BrBrihataParasaraora

> > ShShastra> > > and PaPanchanga> > > Please bring a

copy of ViVistiarsen's book,

> > JyJyotish> > > Fundamentals, Words of My Master

> > >

> > > Recording of the classes will be done for the

> > > benefit of future VyVyasaJSJCtudents and other

> > > students in USA.

> > >

> > > Goal: To have 12 students (at least) as expert

> > > JyJyotishi'sy the year 2007 (2 year target)

> having

> > > good knowledge of BrBrihataParasaraora ShShastra

> > >

> > > All are welcome. There are no charges but

> students

> > > can bring food and drink to share. Expect to

> spend

> > > approximately 3-4 hours in circle.

> > > *tat sasavituravarenyam

> > >

> > >

> > > Have a great evening.

> > > Gail

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > FaFareChase Search multiple travel sites

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Namaste,

Thanks for your mail.My quest is to know :

>If the Sage Veda Vyas a non believer of Astrology,

> that how come Indian Hindu Astrology could become a

> Vedaganga / Vedic Astrology ! ?

While my requests for above clarification till rests

with the list,you have given me an opportunity to

learn that the author's name of BHPS is

debatable.Since BPHS serves my purpose,I shelve the

question of who authored it[bHPS]for the time being.

 

--- Mohan Jyotishi <jyotishi231 wrote:

 

>

> Dear Mr. Karunaakaran Raghavan,

> How on earth did you get the idea that sage Prashara

> believed in astrology!

>

> The Vishnu Purana, the only authentic work by

> Maharshi

> Parashara does not refer to any work on astrology by

> sage Parashara. On the other hand, it is full of

> astronomical discussions about Rasichakra and the

> seasons but ironically, there is no mention of any

> so

> called nirayana Rashichakra, much less a Lahiri or

> Ramana Rashichakra! All that he has done in the

> Vishnu Purana is discussed thoroughly the phenomenon

> of seasons and declared Mesha Sankanti as the day of

> Spring Equinox -- mentioning specifically that the

> day and night are equal on that date, and so on.

> What

> is all the more surprising is that in that work viz.

> Vishu Purana, also, the nakshatra chakra starts from

> Krittika, just like it started in the Vedas, instead

> of from the so called Ashvini division, as is

> happening these days!

>

> Similarly, Makar Sankranti has been depicted as a

> synonym of the Uttarayana, the shortest day of the

> year, dakshinayana and Karkat Sankanti are one and

> the

> same thing i.e. the longest day of the year and

> Autumn

> Equinox (Hemant Sampat) and Tula Sankranti have been

> clubbed together making it very clear that there is

> no

> other Tula Sankranti excepting the one on which days

> and nights are equal!

>

> Regarding Brihat Prashara Hora Shastra, supposed to

> have been written by "Sage Prashara", Bhatotpala of

> Kashmir had said in his commentary on the Brihat

> Jatakam in the seventh century AD that he had heard

> about some Parashari but it was not available

> anywhere! That is why S. B. Dikshit in his

> "Bharatiya

> Jyotish" says that if it was not available in the

> seventh century, how could it be available now that

> is

> in the nineteenth century, when he had compiled that

> book!

>

> The earliest edition of Brihat Prashara Hora Shastra

> that is avilalbe these days with original Sanskrit

> text is from Venkateshwara Press, Bombay, and the

> preface of that books states clearly that it is (not

> by Maharshi Parashara but) by some unknown author

> who

> has collected different pieces of astrological

> knowledge from different places and then put them

> together under the name of "Brihat Parashara Hora

> Shastra".

>

> (Much like RavanaSamhita!)

>

> To add insult to injury, that "Brihat Parashara Hora

> Shastra" wants us to adopt Grahalaghava Ayanamsha

> and

> aseverybody knows, Grahaghava of GaneshaDaivagya is

> a

> sixteenth century work!

> In other words, "Maharshi Parashar of Brihat

> Prashara" is a "descendant of Ganesha Daivagya"!

>

> Then there is anotehr Parashari written by Sitaram

> Jha

> and pulbished by Master Khelari Lal and sons of

> Varanasi with original Sanskrit shlokas and Hindi

> translation. It is entirely different from that of

> Venkateshwar Press edition. However, even Sitaram

> Jha

> has not said anywhere that that work is by Parashara

> Rishi!

>

> The present English translation avilable in the

> market

> is the one of the same work of Sita Ram Jha and it

> prefers a Lahir Rayanamsha--which means Parashara

> Rishi of that Brihat Parashari is a "descendant---a

> follwer of---- Lahiri"

>

> And that is that!

> Dhanyavad.

> Mohand Jyotishi

>

> vedic astrology,

> KARUNAAKARAM

> > RAAGHAVAM

> > <munisevitham> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > I was recently viewing the MAHA BHARAT Episode 4

> > filmed by B.R.Chpra & Ravi Chopra( Epic's Hindi

> > version with English caption) ---- in the

> beginning

> > of

> > the 4th episode Sage Vyas says to Mata Satyavati "

> > time flows like a river …… it is better that man

> > is

> > unable to read future.What is fate to happen will

> > happen,some times ignorance is bliss and some

> times

> > pre knowledge is a cause for sorrow….fate means

> that

> > only God knows what is in store for an individual

> > .."

> >

> > The above purported dialogue of Sage Veda Vyas son

> > of

> > Sage Parasar depicts Him to be a non believer of

> > Astrology ! Is it ture that Sage Veda Vyas was a

> non

> > beliver of Astrology? While is father Patronized

> > Astrology?

> > If the Sage Veda Vyas is a non beliver of

> Astrology,

> > that how come Indian Hindu Astrology could become

> a

> > Vedaganga / Vedic –Astrology ! ?

> >

> > I request the veteran Astrologers to clarify my

> > doubts.

> >

> > --- Gail Francisco <gailfrancisco> wrote:

> >

> > > Om namo bhagavate vasyudevaya

> > >

> > > Vyasa-SJC Circle, California, USA

> > >

> > > Jyotish Guru's: Freedom Tobias Cole & Lakshmi

> Kary

> > > Address: 652, Norvell Street, El' Cerrito, CA

> > 94530,

> > > USA

> > > Phone: 510-938-1570

> > > 23 October, Sunday

> > > Time: 11:00 am

> > >

> > > Vyasa study circle in California - San Francisco

> > Bay

> > > Area.

> > >

> > > Topic for discussion: Brihat Parasara Hora

> > Shastra

> > > and Panchanga

> > > Please bring a copy of Visti Larsen's book,

> > Jyotish

> > > Fundamentals, Words of My Master

> > >

> > > Recording of the classes will be done for the

> > > benefit of future Vyasa-SJC students and other

> > > students in USA.

> > >

> > > Goal: To have 12 students (at least) as expert

> > > Jyotishi's by the year 2007 (2 year target)

> having

> > > good knowledge of Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra.

> > >

> > > All are welcome. There are no charges but

> students

> > > can bring food and drink to share. Expect to

> spend

> > > approximately 3-4 hours in circle.

> > > *tat savitur varenyam*

> > >

> > >

> > > Have a great evening.

> > > Gail

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites

> > in

> > > one click.

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