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> Hi Lyudmilaji,

> Thanks for the information about "astral planes".

>

> As I am quite at sea in supra-rational matters, I am

> unable to comment on the same. I may mention here

> that I do not plan to delve into this nebulous field

> at least in the near future.

> Thanks once again.

> Mohan Jyotishi

>

> PS I wonder whether you have read RAYMOND by Sir

> Oliver Lodge (or is it Henry Cabot Lodge? I forget

> the name of the author). It is a real life account

> of

> the life hereafter of Raymond, the son of

> the

> famouse scientist, Olive Lodge, who had died in a

road accident. It throws a flood

> of light on "life after death".

>

> There was also a special issue of Reader's Digest

about a decde back "Life After Life" which dealt

> with such cases in a meiculous and scientific

> manner.

> MJ

>

> --- jyotishi231 <jyotishi231 wrote:

>

> > vedic astrology,

> > "lyudmila_31"

> > <lyudmila_31> wrote:

> >

> > Good evening for all members!

> > There are several divisions in ethereal body:

> > one is responsible for creating the physical body,

> > and the energy for

> > this creation are given by both parents. Luminous

> > threads tie the

> > person with his parents for years. The living

> force

> > is at first given

> > by parents, and in their old age - by child to

> > parents.

> > The other joins together living forces - the soul,

> > ego.

> > The other is the universal soul.

> > I think that there could be some marks of future

> > birth in the case of

> > Manisha. She may be seriously ill for several

> months

> > before her pass.

> >

> > Lyudmila

> > vedic astrology, Rampaul

> > Verma

> > <rampaulman> wrote:

> > >

> > > hi rema

> > > that is fact what you say but truth "is there is

> > soul in those cell

> > whhich devide and live"

> > > you need to elabortae on it .

> > > i just guess it still has presence of that life

> > giving light in

> > them and those cell get big idenenty and ego is

> may

> > be an astrologer

> > may explain

> > > ra

> > >

> > > Rema Menon <remamenon> wrote:

> > > Mohan Jyotishi,

> > >

> > > There are always cells dividing and forming

> > tissues in

> > > the human body. They are alive. Every living

> cell

> > does

> > > not need to have a soul.

> > >

> > > You cannot call the sperm, the ova or the embryo

> a

> > > person.

> > > It is all part of the developmental stages of

> the

> > > fetus, which is not physiologically any

> different

> > from

> > > the various other developments going on in the

> > human

> > > body, though the division is meiotic and not

> > mitotic.

> > > That doesn't require it to have a soul.

> > >

> > > At some stage this growing mass of

> differentiated

> > > cells becomes a person. The exact time of this

> > > transformation has not been scientifically

> > studied. It

> > > could be any time before the birth.

> > >

> > > Thank you.

> > > Rema

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Mohan Jyotishi <jyotishi231> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Shri Dhira Krsna Dasa,

> > > > Jai Shri Krishna!

> > > >

> > > > I think I have made it already very clear that

> > > > neither

> > > > am I a non-believer in rebirth nor am I

> > > > against a scientific discussion on this

> subject.

> > > >

> > > > All I am saying is that we should consider the

> > > > following points:

> > > > 1. It is worthwhile to note that the embryo

> --

> > > > known

> > > > as a sperm in the intial stage---itself even

> at

> > the

> > > > time of conception is alive and only when it

> > gets

> > > > into

> > > > the ovum does preganancy take place! A dead

> > sperm or

> > > > a

> > > > sperm in "suspended animation" has no chance

> > among

> > > > billions of other sperms to impregnate a womb.

> > Thus

> > > > it

> > > > could not have been Manisha as a sperm, since

> > she

> > > > died

> > > > about six months after conception.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Out of the total gestation period of nine

> > months,

> > > > the embryo/foetus gains (in fact re-awakens

> to)

> > > > consciousness latest by the end of fourth

> month

> > and

> > > > is

> > > > alive and kicking immediately after that. Even

> > if we

> > > > presume that "Manisha" had some "yogic powers"

> > --

> > > > which she never claimed!--she could not remain

> > > > "dead"

> > > > or at least in "suspended animation" in her

> > mother's

> > > > womb for about six months and be born just

> > within

> > > > three months after her death in the previous

> > birth.

> > > > Thus even if it is presumed that she entered

> an

> > > > embryo

> > > > which was already in the womb and waiting for

> > her,

> > > > it

> > > > could not have been later than by the end of

> > fourth

> > > > month of conception.

> > > > 3. It is an impossibility as per biological

> > sciences

> > > > that a "dead foetus" can remain in the womb

> for

> > six

> > > > months from the date of conception and then

> gain

> > > > consciousness all of a sudden! Thus the

> > gestation

> > > > period from the date of conception should

> > certainly

> > > > have been at least nine months but not less

> than

> > > > seven

> > > > months in any case!

> > > > What you or I have heard about such cases does

> > not

> > > > matter since my grandmother used to tell me

> > hundreds

> > > > of such stories in my childhood and I believed

> > > > everyone of them then! The point is what

> cannot

> > be

> > > > substantiated logically and scientifically,

> has

> > to

> > > > be

> > > > given up, at least to be shelved for the time

> > being!

> > > >

> > > > Therefore, all I am requesting is that we

> should

>

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