Chara Dasha example: 4620 message posted again

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Namaste friends,

 

In May-July 1999, I had a public debate on vedic astrology with

Robert Koch, a well-known astrologer from ACVA. Robert Koch was using Sri KN

Rao's chara dasa. Normally, most debates are exercises in ego and stubbornness

and do not result in anyone changing their mind. But this debate was

refreshingly different.

 

After Robert presented case studies where he thought Sri KN Rao's approach

worked better, I presented logic to show why Parasara's method (i.e. with the

exaltation/debilitation exception) worked even better. At the end of the debate

involving several examples, Robert Koch conceded that Parasara's approach was

indeed better! Later, Robert Koch became a student of Pt Sanjay Rath (my guru)

and became a Jyotish Guru at Sri Jagannath Centre (my guru's organization).

 

These days, such open-mindedness and a productive conclusion of a public debate is rare indeed.

 

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Given that Parasara taught Chara dasa too and given that it is very close to the

so-called "Jaimini's Chara dasa", it is extremely likely that they both taught

the same dasa. Given that Jaimini isn't verbose and uses 3 words to describe

what takes 3 verses for Parasara, one will be better off not ignoring

Parasara's words. It is relatrively straight-forward to interpret Parasara, but

it is easy to misinterpret Jaimini.

 

Though it may not have come across in my writings, I immensely respect Sri KN

Rao. He has maintained spiritual purity and keen intellectual acumen in his

illustrious career as an astrology researcher and teacher and he is a great

role model for me in several ways.

 

However, I beg to differ with him on the exaltation/debilitation exception in

Chara dasa. I personally find Parasara's chara dasa more accurate than Sri KN

Rao's chara dasa (though I will take Jaimini's Narayana dasa (or Padakrama

dasa) over the two anyday).

 

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> Old message 4620... for your reference> > Satyaprakashji,> Here is an

example how I time events without taking an> extra year for an exalted planet

in Chara dasha.> K.N.Rao.> > Marriage Timing> Jan 26,1972> Time: 3:09AM

Zone: 5:30 DST: 0> Chandigarh> Longitude: 76E46 Latitude: 30N49> > The

first marriage took place in June 1998 seventh house> and DKN> Divorce

took place took place in 1999 Mithuna Kumbha.> Second marriage took

place in Mithuna Dhanu.> I get this timing by not giving to Karka dasha

one extra> year of one year.

 

Now let me explain this with Parasara's chara dasa, i.e. with the

exaltation/debilitation exceptions taken into account. You can decide for

yourself if the logic is more convincing with Parasara's calculations or less

convincing. To replicate my calculations of "Parasara's chara dasa", you can

use my free software (link below).

 

(1) Marriage: It happened in Cancer-Leo antardasa. Cancer contains Ketu and

Venus aspects it. More importantly, lord of Cancer - Moon - is exalted in the

7th house!! In navamsa, lord of Cancer is exalted again and joins DK.

 

Taking Cancer as lagna (Chara dasa is after all the progression of lagna!), Leo

is the 2nd house of family and its lord Sun is in the 7th house. Leo contains

dara pada (A7 or 7P) too. In navamsa (chart of marriage), Leo contains arudha

lagna, showing a new tangible beginning. No wonder, Leo antardasa in Cancer

dasa gave marriage.

 

(2) Divorce: It happened in Gemini-Capricorn antardasa. Though Gemini is the 8th

house, it contains upapada lagna. It can bring changes in life, good and bad.

Let us see the antardasa. Taking Gemini as lagna, Capricorn is the 8th house

and its lord is in the 12th house. In navamsa, Capricorn contains Mrityu pada

(A8 or 8P - death).

 

In fact, I argue that Mithuna-Makara explains divorce better than Mithuna-Kumbha

as you get with Sri KN Rao's method. Kumbha (Aq) contains Venus (7th lord and

naisargika karaka for marriage) and is the 9th house from Mithuna (Ge). OTOH,

Makara (Cp) is the 8th house.

 

(3) Re-marriage: It happened in Gemini-Pisces dasa. Pisces is aspected and owned

by DK Jupiter. Upapada lagna aspects it. Taking Gemini as lagna, lord of Pisces

is in the 7th house (just as in (1) above). In navamsa, exalted Venus (lagna

lord) occupies Pisces. The bhagya pada (A9 or 9P) and sukha pada (A4 or 4P) are

also there indicating fortune and happiness in marital matters.

 

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It is very easy to take positions and claim that X works fine and Y does not.

However, I wonder how many people sincerely examined Parasara's teachings

closely, without getting biased by Sri KN Rao's teachings. Give an open-minded

consideration to Parasara's teachings.

 

A budding Vedic astrologer can ignore Parasara at one's own peril!

 

I did not, do not and will not claim to be an expert in Parasara's teachings. I

only know a little and am constantly trying to improve my understanding of the

teachings of great Parasara. I made mistakes and passed on incorrect teachings

(e.g. drigdasa calculation) in my book and software earlier. When I realize a

mistake of mine, I have no qualms accepting it and correcting it. Thus, this is

not a question of ego for me. In fact, the knowledge I am arguing for is not

mine - it is Parasara's. I am just playing the role of a messenger. All I can

tell you based on my own experience is that Parasara deserves to be understood

rather than ignored...

 

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BTW, the Chandi homam in our backyard went very well on Saturday. It was a great

experience. Towards the end of the homam, one of the burnt logs took the form of

a lion's face - one could clearly see the eyes, nose, mouth and even teeth in

the log. Several people thought they saw the Mother's shape in the fire riding

a lion. At the beginning, when Chandi was invoked, there was a really heavy

wind for several seconds. When we had Subrahmanya Trishati Homam last week

(prior to Chandi homam), we saw in fire what appeared like a peacock and a

snake

(http://pg.photos./ph/padmajab/detail?.dir=32f9&.dnm=a3ac.jpg&.src=ph).

 

Thanks to all those who sent their best wishes. Some of you wanted the names to

be included in sankalpam and we did so.

 

We have a free Jyotish workshop in Maynard (greater Boston) next weekend, with 4

speakers. All of you are welcome. Our monthly Full Moon night Satya Narayana

vratam will be on October 16 night from 6:30 pm (eastern time) at our house in

South Grafton, Mass, after the workshop concludes. I plan to do it more

elaborately this time than I always do. The priests from the Kalikamba temple

in Chennai, who did the Chandi homam, may also be there at the vratam and you

can take their blessings. All of you are welcome to attend the vratam and take

prasadam. You can send me an email or call 508-839-1218 for directions.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha

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