Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Namaste, Thank you very much for suggesting a good web site which comparatively throws a detailed light on the subject of birth time rectifications. Now the ball is in the other court - Sun Rise time. This could be easily ascertained from (a)Panchangam(b)Jhora©http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneYear.html (again these would depend on the correct Latitude & Longitude)fOR pick and choose at our vi ms and fancies for an accurate predictions. --- Sarvam KRSNAARPANAM ---- --- Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008 wrote: > Om Krishna Guru > > Namsate Sreenadh Ji, > > Sorry the link I have provided earlier, looks > outdated and > may be you should look at the following Rayudu Ji's > web site > > http://webpages.charter.net/rayudu/rayudu.html > > Go to the Articles option and look for the "Tatwa / > Antar Tatwa > Siddhanta" paper and there every thing is there. > > It is simply a brilliant method, at least for me. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > vedic astrology, "Raghunatha > RaoNemani" > <raon1008> wrote: > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > Namaste Sreenadh Ji, > > > > That was a good note from you. I have been working > on a similar > > method by Sri Rayudu Garu/Sri Divakaruni Venkata > Subba Rao Garu for > > the past year or so and testing on many charts. > When I finish I > will > > write more on this method later. > > > > Meanwhile, if you or some one is interested in > knowing and working > on > > the "Tatwa / Antar Tatwa Siddhanta - Birth Time > Rectification" > method > > by Sri Divakaruni Venkata Subba Rao Garu/Sri > Rayudu Garu, then > please > > look at the following link: > > > > http://www.loudoun-net.com/kamesh/BirthTimeRec.htm > > > > You will also find many other wonderful articles > by Sri Rayudu Garu > > too. > > > > Hope the above is helpful. > > > > Regards > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sreenadh" > <sreelid> > > wrote: > > > I am posting a short article on pancha tatwa > method. Hope atleat > > some > > > will bebefit from it. > > > Pancha Tatwa method > > > =================== > > > Earth, Water, Air, Fire, Sky are the 5 Tatwas > (Pancha Bhoothas). > > 1/8 > > > th part of the day/night is called Yama. > > > Therefore 1 Yama = 12 hrs/8 = 1 hrs 30 min. = 90 > min. > > > The Yamas are classified as Oja/Yuga (Odd/Even). > > > Odd Yamas : 1, 3, 5, 7 > > > Even Yamas : 2, 4, 6, 8 > > > In every Yama the 5 Tatwas are supposed to rise > in succession. > In > > Odd > > > Yama it starts with Earth and in Even Yama it > starts with Sky > (i.e. > > In > > > reverse order). > > > Odd Yama : Earth, Water, Fire, Air, Sky > > > Even Yama : Sky, Air, Fire, Water, Earth > > > The time period allotted for each Tatwa is: > > > Earth : 30 min > > > Water : 24 min > > > Fire : 18 min > > > Air : 12 min > > > Sky : 6 min > > > It is true only when the length of day is 12 > hrs. When the > > day/night > > > length changes necessary changes should be made > in the time span > > > allotted to each Tatwa as well. Each Tatwa > period (period > allotted > > to > > > each Tatwa) can be again subdivided into 5, and > Antara Tatwas > > > (Antharas) can be calculated. The order of > calculating antharas > in > > > each Tatwa period is given below: > > > Earth : Earth, Water, Fire, Air, Sky > > > Water : Water, Fire, Air, Sky, Earth > > > Fire : Fire, Air, Sky, Earth, Water > > > Air : Air, Sky, Earth, Water, Fire > > > Sky : Sky, Earth, Water, Fire, Air > > > > > > Why all this mathematical exercise? The theory > is that: > > > > > > > ----------------------------- > > > | Birth will happen only in the Tatwa period > allotted to Air | > > > | (Vayu boothodaya) or its anthara tatwa period > in any other | > > > | Tatwa period. > | > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > > > An analysis of the system reveals the following > facts: > > > 1) Pancha Tatwa theory coupled with Yama > concept as applied here > > > shows the rhythm of the day. > > > 2) Another primary assumption that seems to be > considered is > that > > > 'the rise of Air Tatwa (Vayu bhoothodaya) is > necessary for the > > birth > > > to take place'. > > > > > > What could the reasons for the second > assumption? In > > Yanjnchavalkya > > > smrithi we can see the following statement. > > > Navame desame vapi prebalaiH soothi maruthaiH > > > NiHsaryathe Bana Iva Yenthra Chidrena saJwaraH > > > Meaning, in the 9th or 10th month, prompted by > Soothi Vayu (Air > > > Tatwa), the child is thrown out (through the > vagina) like an > arrow > > > that comes out through a hole. > > > > > > It is possible that, it is this ancient > reference in the smrithi > > that > > > caused the concept of Vayu boothodaya to get > associated with > birth. > > > (It is only a historical possibility, I am not > sure) > > > But what ever that be, the Kerala and Tamil > astrologers stick to > > the > > > concept that the rise of Air Tatwa is a must for > the birth to > take > > > place. If the given birth time is not in Air > Tatwa or Air Anthara > > > necessary adjustment is done so as to move it to > the air Tatwa or > > air > > > anthara. > > > (An example may clarify the calculations, but > as it will take > much > > > time and effort I had restricted myself only to > presenting the > > theory > > > of Pancha Tatwa method) > > > > > > Whether boy or girl? (Analysis by Pancha Tatwa > method) > > > > ------------------- > > > As I said earlier the Yamas are classified as > Odd and Even. > > > Odd - Male > > > Even - Female > > > Now each Tatwa also comes under the same > classification of Odd > and > > > Even. > > > Earth - Odd - Male > > > Water - Even - Female > > > Fire - Odd - Male > > > Air - Even - Female > > > Sky - Odd - Male > > > [Let us use the notation M for Male and F for > Female] > === message truncated === Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Om Krishna Guru Namaste KARUNAAKARAM Ji, Thanks for the note. Yep, sunrise plays a vital role in this. By the way JHora has 3 sunrise options,so that adds more to your list. What do you think, which one will be an accurate Sunrise. Please share your thoughts on this. Regards Raghunatha Rao vedic astrology, KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham> wrote: > Namaste, > > Thank you very much for suggesting a good web site > which comparatively throws a detailed light on the > subject of birth time rectifications. > Now the ball is in the other court - Sun Rise time. > This could be easily ascertained from > (a)Panchangam(b)Jhora© http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneYear.html > (again these would depend on the correct Latitude & > Longitude)fOR pick and choose at our vi ms and fancies > for an accurate predictions. > > --- Sarvam KRSNAARPANAM ---- > > --- Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008> wrote: > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > Namsate Sreenadh Ji, > > > > Sorry the link I have provided earlier, looks > > outdated and > > may be you should look at the following Rayudu Ji's > > web site > > > > http://webpages.charter.net/rayudu/rayudu.html > > > > Go to the Articles option and look for the "Tatwa / > > Antar Tatwa > > Siddhanta" paper and there every thing is there. > > > > It is simply a brilliant method, at least for me. > > > > Regards > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > vedic astrology, "Raghunatha > > RaoNemani" > > <raon1008> wrote: > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > > > Namaste Sreenadh Ji, > > > > > > That was a good note from you. I have been working > > on a similar > > > method by Sri Rayudu Garu/Sri Divakaruni Venkata > > Subba Rao Garu for > > > the past year or so and testing on many charts. > > When I finish I > > will > > > write more on this method later. > > > > > > Meanwhile, if you or some one is interested in > > knowing and working > > on > > > the "Tatwa / Antar Tatwa Siddhanta - Birth Time > > Rectification" > > method > > > by Sri Divakaruni Venkata Subba Rao Garu/Sri > > Rayudu Garu, then > > please > > > look at the following link: > > > > > > http://www.loudoun-net.com/kamesh/BirthTimeRec.htm > > > > > > You will also find many other wonderful articles > > by Sri Rayudu Garu > > > too. > > > > > > Hope the above is helpful. > > > > > > Regards > > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sreenadh" > > <sreelid> > > > wrote: > > > > I am posting a short article on pancha tatwa > > method. Hope atleat > > > some > > > > will bebefit from it. > > > > Pancha Tatwa method > > > > =================== > > > > Earth, Water, Air, Fire, Sky are the 5 Tatwas > > (Pancha Bhoothas). > > > 1/8 > > > > th part of the day/night is called Yama. > > > > Therefore 1 Yama = 12 hrs/8 = 1 hrs 30 min. = 90 > > min. > > > > The Yamas are classified as Oja/Yuga (Odd/Even). > > > > Odd Yamas : 1, 3, 5, 7 > > > > Even Yamas : 2, 4, 6, 8 > > > > In every Yama the 5 Tatwas are supposed to rise > > in succession. > > In > > > Odd > > > > Yama it starts with Earth and in Even Yama it > > starts with Sky > > (i.e. > > > In > > > > reverse order). > > > > Odd Yama : Earth, Water, Fire, Air, Sky > > > > Even Yama : Sky, Air, Fire, Water, Earth > > > > The time period allotted for each Tatwa is: > > > > Earth : 30 min > > > > Water : 24 min > > > > Fire : 18 min > > > > Air : 12 min > > > > Sky : 6 min > > > > It is true only when the length of day is 12 > > hrs. When the > > > day/night > > > > length changes necessary changes should be made > > in the time span > > > > allotted to each Tatwa as well. Each Tatwa > > period (period > > allotted > > > to > > > > each Tatwa) can be again subdivided into 5, and > > Antara Tatwas > > > > (Antharas) can be calculated. The order of > > calculating antharas > > in > > > > each Tatwa period is given below: > > > > Earth : Earth, Water, Fire, Air, Sky > > > > Water : Water, Fire, Air, Sky, Earth > > > > Fire : Fire, Air, Sky, Earth, Water > > > > Air : Air, Sky, Earth, Water, Fire > > > > Sky : Sky, Earth, Water, Fire, Air > > > > > > > > Why all this mathematical exercise? The theory > > is that: > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > | Birth will happen only in the Tatwa period > > allotted to Air | > > > > | (Vayu boothodaya) or its anthara tatwa period > > in any other | > > > > | Tatwa period. > > | > > > > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > > > > > An analysis of the system reveals the following > > facts: > > > > 1) Pancha Tatwa theory coupled with Yama > > concept as applied here > > > > shows the rhythm of the day. > > > > 2) Another primary assumption that seems to be > > considered is > > that > > > > 'the rise of Air Tatwa (Vayu bhoothodaya) is > > necessary for the > > > birth > > > > to take place'. > > > > > > > > What could the reasons for the second > > assumption? In > > > Yanjnchavalkya > > > > smrithi we can see the following statement. > > > > Navame desame vapi prebalaiH soothi maruthaiH > > > > NiHsaryathe Bana Iva Yenthra Chidrena saJwaraH > > > > Meaning, in the 9th or 10th month, prompted by > > Soothi Vayu (Air > > > > Tatwa), the child is thrown out (through the > > vagina) like an > > arrow > > > > that comes out through a hole. > > > > > > > > It is possible that, it is this ancient > > reference in the smrithi > > > that > > > > caused the concept of Vayu boothodaya to get > > associated with > > birth. > > > > (It is only a historical possibility, I am not > > sure) > > > > But what ever that be, the Kerala and Tamil > > astrologers stick to > > > the > > > > concept that the rise of Air Tatwa is a must for > > the birth to > > take > > > > place. If the given birth time is not in Air > > Tatwa or Air Anthara > > > > necessary adjustment is done so as to move it to > > the air Tatwa or > > > air > > > > anthara. > > > > (An example may clarify the calculations, but > > as it will take > > much > > > > time and effort I had restricted myself only to > > presenting the > > > theory > > > > of Pancha Tatwa method) > > > > > > > > Whether boy or girl? (Analysis by Pancha Tatwa > > method) > > > > > > ------------------- > > > > As I said earlier the Yamas are classified as > > Odd and Even. > > > > Odd - Male > > > > Even - Female > > > > Now each Tatwa also comes under the same > > classification of Odd > > and > > > > Even. > > > > Earth - Odd - Male > > > > Water - Even - Female > > > > Fire - Odd - Male > > > > Air - Even - Female > > > > Sky - Odd - Male > > > > [Let us use the notation M for Male and F for > > Female] > > > === message truncated === > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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