Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Namaste Panditji Once again i express my thanks for your encouragement. I have scribbled whatever i know on the topic as a pdf file.I have plans to prepare a detailed paper with example charts,including Karakamsha results.This is just a part of the same. Kindly read and give your views. I had once addressed this directly to shri K.N.Raoji and expressed my understanding on karakamsha lagna,which he has proposed.Other lagna vargas like dashamsha,nvamsha etc should e no different from karakamsha analysis. Scholars like Shri K.Chandra Hari has clearly expressed similar views even before i have started learning Jyotish. Sreenadh another learned member too has written on his papers ,what a Bhava is. I will try to address this again to Shri Raoji. Respect Pradeep vedic astrology, Panditji <navagraha@g...> wrote: > Namaste Vijaydas, > I have read your past mails with great interest and after flipping through > some of the classics, I find no conclusive evidence that amshas should be > used as bhavas. There are a couple of shlokas that people have mentioned > here which can be interpreted as may be the sage wanted to use aspects in > divisions. But I don't think one can base an entire thesis on a few threads. > The camps are divided and I commend you for your perseverence and honestly > looking at what has been said in the classics, instead of getting trapped > into blind following. > I rarely used divisional charts except to look at graha bala, but after > reading your posts I am convinced that a fresh look into this theory of > divisional charts needs to be looked at at analyzed thoroughly. I must > concede that they provide a great tool to explain away things that are known > and if one has to write books and articles it is a good space filler. KN Rao > has also mentioned these in his books, but I am not sure how much he relies > on these so called divisional charts to actually arrive at his conclusions ( > Only he can answer that). > I have seen many people say "divisional chart won't give what rashi chart > promises", but many go directly to the concerned divisional chart for > prediction. I think what is promised by rashi kundali can be looked into > rashi kundali alone. I think we need to concentrate on how to unlock the > secrets of the rashi kundali, integrating it with amshas etc. > I do not know how active KN Rao is these days, but if you have not already > done so, please ask him these query of yours.We have gone through this > exercise on this list before and results have been people who are entreched > in their positions conforming their entrechments. Finally the proof is in > predictive ability, if you can do so using whatever technique all the power > to you. > ... > > On 10/3/05, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Rath ji > > > > Please find the following as sincere queries. > > The time and effort that i have spent over vargas,has been pointed out > > by an SJC member as rude,non grateful,non sincere behaviour. > > No worries.What am i doing here,am i quarelling over property > > oundaries!!! Arent We engaged in a mutual exercise of sharing and > > learning. > > > > > > Please answer the following queries,if your kind self feels so.It will > > help one and everyone. > > > > 1)Do we have any authority to,arrange and analyse Bhavas in groups of > > ''individual amshas'',resulting in non astronomical order. > > Do we have multiple positions for planets and lagna.Arent we just > > finding the harmonic mathematical relationship in individual > > fashion.Is not Kalyan Verma very clear. > > > > If multiple,then why should sage,teach us astronomy.In Rashi Chakra,it > > is not an arrangement from us,it has already been arranged in > > heaven.Isnt,Bhava Niroopana in Rashi Chakra > > based on the exact astronomical order of planets. > > > > 2)Can two planets placed astronomically ,15 degrees apart, cast poorna > > drishti(full aspect),just because we arrange them in order after > > finding their amshas. > > If so,then why should Mahamuni Parashara waste his energy over > > aspectual rules.Can we even imagine such and still be proud of our > > intellectual heritage!!!!!! > > Why are we finding it difficult to understand views of > > Santhanam,D.V.Subbu Rao,if not the numerous local scholars,(not > > popular),having acces to fresh and noncorrupted classical views. > > > > > > 3)Arent Amshas individual harmonic relationship of planets with > > various signs from their natal position. > > For example,while thinking of Navamsha - a planet is related through > > number 9,with one among the various sign divisions, of its dispositing > > sign. > > Similarly we take another planet and find its navamsha.That too is > > individually related. > > But do they attain any mutual relationship,just because we arrange > > them, as if in heaven. > > > > 4)Do we have anyother way ,than to find vargas for our natal rising > > degree and Planets. > > > > 5)If we sincerely go ack to basics,cant we understand why we care > > unable to find even a single reference for Bhavas in a detailed text > > like Saravali,especially as Kalyan Varma has reiterated the importance > > of amshas. > > > > I request your good self to honestly attempt this queries.OM NAMA > > SHIVAYA.Kindly reply. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > - Visit your group "vedic astrology<vedic astrology>" > > on the web. > > - > > vedic astrology<vedic astrology-@gro\ ups.com?subject=Un> > > - Terms of > > Service <>. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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