Bhavas 3-6-11 and 6-8-12

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Dear All,

I have seen a conversation about the difference between 6-8-12 and

3-6-11 Bhavas originally started by Imran. Let me share some of my

observation in this regard.

As everybody knows:

6-8-12 are called Dustanas and 3-6-11 are called Trishadaya_pathaya.

As far as I know, the rules connected with 6-8-12 are generally

applicable in every kind of prediction and the rules connected with 3-

6-11 is applicable especially in Nakshatra Desa system told by

Parasara. May be Jathaka Chandrika (also known as Lekhu Parasari) is

the first book that explicitly states 'Pathaya trishadayanam yedi papa

phalapreda', meaning if the desa lords are the rulers of 3-6-11 they

will not give auspicious results.

[by the way, as far as I know, there are 3 books with the name

Jathaka Chandrika - 1) Deals with Nakshatra Desa 2) Deals with

Horoscopy 3) Deals with Matching. Of these 3 books the first is also

known as Ududaya predeepam and Lekhu Parasari]

Why these bhavas are bad?

3 - bad thoughts, cruelty are all associated with this bhava. It is

considered as a hidden bhava that never supports straight predictions,

comes in the apoklima category that gives good results only at a later

age.

6 - Enemy, Weapons, Wounds, Debt are all associated with this bhava.

It is clearly evident that it is a dustana. It is also an apoklima

bhava.

8 - Death, Hardships are associated with this bhava. It is a hidden

bhava and a dustana. Except Longevity, and Means of survival nothing

much that is good is associated with this bhava. Then why (as Jathaka

Chandrika points to) the 8th desa lord should give good results?

11 - This bhava is not considered as the significator of anything

that is bad. Then why the desa of the 11th lord shouldn't give good

results?

12 - Expense, Loss are all associated with this bhava. It is clearly

evident that it is a dustana. It is also an apoklima bhava.

If we consider all the 3-6-8-11-12 bhavas, 3-8-11 raises some

questions. As per Jathaka Chandrika,

1) The desa of 3rd lord is considered bad. Why?

2) The desa of 8th lord is considered good. Why?

3) The desa of 11th lord is considered bad. Why?

It is these questions that we should find answer to. But these

questions do not stop as from using this system effectively in

predication. As the badness associated with 3-11 and the goodness

associated with 8 (as pointed to by Jathaka Chandrika) is

controversial, We should limit the use of this theory to Nakshatra

desa alone. Jathaka Chandrika explicitly deals with predictions done

using Nakshatra desa system and therefore I can use this theory only

when using Nakshatra desa for prediction. Everybody knows the norm

that when we follow a system we should stick to the conditions/laws

proposed by the originators of that system. Parasara proposed

Nakshatra desa and while using that system for prediction (even if I

don't understand the correct logic employed), I should stick to the

rules given in Lekhu Parasari (Jathaka Chandrika) - as it speaks about

Parasara's desa system known as Nakshatra desa. But then using the

same system (of considering the lords of 3-6-11 as bad) while using

the other desa systems or general predictions can be a fallacy. (This

approach is also true in the case of Kendradhipathya dosha - which is

associated with fixing the death period when maraka sthana dosha is

also considered). Both 3-6-11 theory and Kendradhipathya dosha theory

is proposed by Jathaka Chandrika, especially to deal with Nakshatra

desa system. (There is not a single statement in Rishi horas that says

that 3-11 are bad or that Kendradhipathya dosha should be considered)

Therefore I feel that using them in general prediction can cause many

problems. Hope many will appreciate this view.

With warm regards,

Sreenadh