Birth Time Rectification

October 1, 2005

Dear Members,

I have seen many asking and arguing on the birth time rectification

methods. One shouldn't run away from such vital questions. Let me

share my humble understanding on the subject. I have searched the

classics and other books and this is what I could find.

What is birth time?

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1) If Seerishodaya sign - head, if Prishtodaya sign - feet, if

Ubhayodaya sign - hand. i.e. The coming out of head, feet or hand

could be considered as the time of birth accordingly considering the

Asc sign at birth time. (One sloka in Saravali supports this view)

2) Time of Garbhodhodaka Sruthi - breaking time of placenta. (Brihat

sounaka hora)

3) The coming out of head, feet or hand could be considered as the

time of birth irrespective of the Asc sign at birth time. (Garga

jathakam)

4) The time of cutting of Umbilical cord (No classics supports this

view)

5) The time of first breath (No classics supports this view)

6) The time of first cry (No classics supports this view)

7) Adhana time (Saravali and Lakhujathakam supports this view)

8) Laladodayam - The time at which forehead of the child is seen

(Saravali)

9) Bhoosparsa - The time at which the child touches the earth

(Saravali)

10) Any time that is tightly related to the person can be taken to

predict his future - conclusion drawn by considering all the above

views. (There are systems for predicting future by considering the

first menses period and the time of marriage. This also supports this

view)

Mathematical methods to correct birth time

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1) Kunda Multiplication method - Asc x 81 (Presnamarga,

Presnareethi, Varaha hora, Sounaka hora)

2) Navamsa Dwadesamsa method - Asc x 108 (Varaha hora, Brihath

prajapathyam)

3) Navamsa - Asc x 9 (Sounaka hora)

4) Dwadesamsa - Asc x 12 (Brihath prajapathyam)

5) Varga Chathushtaya - Joined use of methods 1-2-3-4. (Presnamarga,

Presnarathna, Skanda hora)

6) Pancha Boothodaya - Pancha tatwa method (Yanjcha valkya smrithi,

Regular use of this theory by ancient astrologers, Some slokas in

Uthara kalamritha also initiates thoughts in these lines)

7) Use of nirayana longitude of Sun - It is long calculation method

(Presnamarga)

8) Ghati-vighati at birth time - It is also another calculation

method (Uthara kalamritha)

9) Sookshma hora - Asc x 972 (Presnasara, One sloka of Saravali is

also at times quoted as supportive of this)

10) Nadi system - Method not clearly stated (Chandrakala nadi,

Sphujidhwaja hora also initiates thoughts in these lines)

Methods to verify whether Asc is correct

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1) Using Gulika (Presnarathna, Presna samgraha, Jathaka parijatha,

Presnasara, Phaladeepika)

2) Using Pranapada (Jyothisha Rathnakaram)

3) Using Mandi (Jathaka parijatha, Brihath jathaka padhathi,

Phaladeepika, Uthara kalamritham)

4) Using Trisputa (Presnamarga)

This is the essence of what I could find. i.e. Totally there are 10

arguments as to what is birth time, of which the 10th is the most

acceptable one. 10 methods for birth time rectification and 4 methods

for cross checking and verifying whether Asc sign is correct. Of the

birth time rectification methods Varga chathushtaya method is the most

supported one by classics. Even though there is not slokas that

supports Pancha tatwa method it some how gets special reputation by

the learned scholars (for example both PVR and Chandrahari are

supportive of this method)

As an elaborate discussion of all these methods will take much time,

space and effort, I humbly request the learned scholars who are well

versed in any of these methods to explain each in detail, for the

benefit of others. Concerning Kunda calculation I have explained my

views earlier, and certainly ready to share my thoughts on other

methods as time permits, if many are ready to share this effort of

explaining all these methods to the benefit of learners and seekers.

With warm regards,

Sreenadh

October 1, 2005

hello srinadh

as u mentined lots of method are available for birth time

rectification. and we can not apply 10 methods and drwa conclusion by

average we got to stop some where. my expereance with birth time

rectifictaion is i rely on kunda method and nvamasha dwadasma method.

finaly verifying with sookshma dasa couple of event occured very soon

after birth.

there is another method of rectification of birth time found by

krishnamurthy. where he uses sub sub sub lord as ruling planet to

evaluate time of birth.

i came across prashna method where longitude of lagna found based on

prashna and omen but guess very crude method to fix lagna

suresh

October 3, 2005

There is a method of tatwa - antartattwa for birth time rectification too.

Thanks and Regards

BharatOn 10/1/05, Sreenadh <sreelid > wrote: