RE: vedic-Astrology; 8th Lord to Cp.Lagna is functional melefic ?

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I am giving an hint and a teaser verify the facts for yourself and then raise

the questions of Pedagogue ??? !!! I am not going to give straight answers to

anyone who raises questions with tinge of egoism. as the last few sentences of

your original e-mail implies so.

 

In every major event in life ( good or bad ) , you will always find the link to

8H or 8HL. Do you not find it surprising ? Apply it and see for yourself.

 

This forum is a platform for amateurs / advanced astrologers to share knowledge,

kindly do not attack personality or touch the "devil" in other. Be polite,

have an open mind and be graceful in raising queries, accept or rejecting the

view of other members. Astrology has many "debatable" points, one should make

sincere attempt in unravelling and to conclude few of them atleast with

scientific attitude. ( Ex. Few consider Rahu / Ketu 5,9 aspects, few

astrologers do not consider "neutrality " of planets in their interpretatins,

No one is forcing to accept his "facts".

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Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya > wrote:

Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:37:16 +0100 (BST)Dhananjayan Brahma

<abhanaya >vedic-Astrology; 8th Lord to Cp.Lagna is

functional melefic ?pvr (AT) charter (DOT) netCC: guruji (AT) srath (DOT) com,

lyudmila_31 , gogatea (AT) vsnl (DOT) com,sreeram64 (AT) satyam (DOT) net.in,

tvrao_agd (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in, anr75 ,vijayadas_pradeep ,

tw853 , hinduastrology Namaste,pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net.> Capricorn

lagna --------------------.>Another issue raised was why the 8th lord Sun's

dasais giving fame. Well, 8th lord Sun is debilitated anddebilitated 8th lord

is always good.Could you please care to expand your contention withsome

autherncity that for Capricorn Lagna the 8th LordSun becomes functional

melefic.None should conclude that you are wrongly portrayingto the

vedic astrology list and to thestudents of Astrology, such

remarks may evenadversely speek about your Pedagogue.With best wishes and warm

regards,Dhananjayan.--- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" wrote:> Namaste Bharat,> >

Thanks a lot for the birthdata! As an Indian tennis> fan, I am looking forward

to her match against Maria> Sharapova tomorrow! I hope it will be a good

match.> > Someone raised doubts about Capricorn lagna.> > Based on the little

work I've done, this lagna seems> reasonable to me. For example, look at a

photo of> her when she is laughing:> >

>http://www.sania-mirza.in/photo-gallery-off-the-court.php?page=0&scope=1&sortby=id&dir=desc&pic=88>

> Look at her upper teeth. Capricorn lagna is a good> possibility.> > Another

issue raised was why the 8th lord Sun's dasa> is giving fame. Well, 8th lord

Sun is debilitated> and debilitated 8th lord is always good.> > In any cfase,

she has the 10th lord Venus in 10th.> So Chaturaseeti Sama Dasa (CSD) is the

best> nakshatra dasa in her chart. I would use that dasa> rather than

Vimsottari dasa. Parasara taught> conditional nakshatra dasas because they work

better> than Vimsottari dasa in some charts. After all, if> Vimsottari dasa is

the best nakshatra dasa in all> charts, there was no need for Parasara to

teach> other conditional nakshatra dasas!> > You can get CSD calculations from

JHora (free> software - downloadable at the site given below).> > Sania Mirza

is running Moon-Venus antardasa as per> CSD (May 2004-Feb 2006).> > Moon is the

7th lord and Venus is the 5th and 10th> lord and they are in samasaptaka. They

aspect each> other very closely (within 1 deg 11 min). They give> a powerful

raja yoga. Even in D-10, Moon is the 10th> lord and gives Gaja-Kesari yoga in

11th, while Venus> is in samasaptaka to Moon. Being the 10th and lagna> lords,

they give a raja yoga in D-10 too. No wonder> Moon-Venus antardasa saw her come

to limelight.> > Regarding the question on why she is a sportsperson,> look at

rasi and dasamsa carefully. In rasi, exalted> Mars is in lagna (explaining her

aggressive> personality). The 3rd from lagna has Rahu and the> 3rd from AL

(arudha lagna) has Saturn. In navamsa,> Mars is a trine showing some physical

abilities and> energy (trines in navamsa show one's basic skills).> Two

malefics Sun and Saturn are in upachayas in> rasi, navamsa and dasamsa.> >

Definitely, I have to work with more events to be> confident of the birthtime,

but the data passes my> basic sanity check.> > * * *> > If this data is

accurate, her 24th year will be a> crucial year and take her to great heights.

As per> CSD, Mars dasa will start in July 2009. Mars is> exalted in lagna in

rasi chart. He is the 7th lord> with 9th lord Mercury in 9th and gives a raja

yoga> in dasamsa. He is in a dasamsa owned by Indra. He is> in AL.> > In the

2009-2010 annual TP chart, Venus is the ruler> of the year. He is the 5th lord

and has an exchange> with 4th lord Mercury and gives a raja yoga. In D-10>

also, lagna lord Venus joins 9th lord Mercury in 5th> house (9th from AL)! Moon

and Jupiter are together> in the 7th house giving Gaja-Kesari yoga and aspect>

lagna!> > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > NarasimhaSend instant messages to

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Dear Sreeram , Dhananjayan Brahma and list members

 

Dear Sreeram, i think he was raising doubts over Narasimha Rao's mail

and not your mail. See his mail carefully again. But whoever may be

the person, his talk of pedagogue and all is not good. I didn't

understand what he is the main point.

 

If the question was about functional maleficiance of 8th lord, then

yes 8th lord is generally malefic for any lagna. Many scholars and

commentators opine that for Dhanu and makar lagna 8th lord is not

malefic and not benefic either. It is more of a neutral planet being

moon and Sun respectively. For Mesh and Thula lagna, the lagna lord

itself becomes the 8th lord, and the Moola trikona falls in lagna,

and hence Mars and venus should be treated as neutral for them. This

could have been the bone of contention rather than raising doubts

over pedagogue.

 

best wishes

partha

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partvinu.blogspot.com

 

 

 

 

 

-astrology, "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64@s...> wrote:

> I am giving an hint and a teaser verify the facts for yourself and

then raise the questions of

> Pedagogue ??? !!! I am not going to give straight answers to

anyone who raises questions with tinge

> of egoism. as the last few sentences of your original e-mail

implies so.

>

> In every major event in life ( good or bad ) , you will always

find the link to 8H or 8HL. Do you

> not find it surprising ? Apply it and see for yourself.

>

> This forum is a platform for amateurs / advanced astrologers to

share knowledge, kindly do not

> attack personality or touch the "devil" in other. Be polite, have

an open mind and be graceful in

> raising queries, accept or rejecting the view of other members.

Astrology has many "debatable"

> points, one should make sincere attempt in unravelling and to

conclude few of them atleast with

> scientific attitude. ( Ex. Few consider Rahu / Ketu 5,9 aspects,

few astrologers do not consider

> "neutrality " of planets in their interpretatins, No one is

forcing to accept his "facts".

>

>

> Sreeram Srinvas

> A-9/28, Sector -18, Rohini

> New Delhi - 110 085

> Home: +91 11 27851519

> Cell : +91 98682-31817

> sreeram64@s...

>

> Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya> wrote:

>

> Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:37:16 +0100 (BST)

> Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya>

> vedic-Astrology; 8th Lord to Cp.Lagna is functional

melefic ?

> pvr@c...

> CC: guruji@s..., lyudmila_31, gogatea@v...,

> sreeram64@s..., tvrao_agd@s..., anr75,

> vijayadas_pradeep, tw853, hinduastrology@g...

>

> Namaste,

> pvr@c...

>

>

> > Capricorn lagna --------------------.

>

> >Another issue raised was why the 8th lord Sun's dasa

> is giving fame. Well, 8th lord Sun is debilitated and

> debilitated 8th lord is always good.

>

> Could you please care to expand your contention with

> some autherncity that for Capricorn Lagna the 8th Lord

> Sun becomes functional melefic.

>

> None should conclude that you are wrongly portraying

> to the vedic astrology list and to the

> students of Astrology, such remarks may even

> adversely speek about your Pedagogue.

>

> With best wishes and warm regards,

> Dhananjayan.

>

> --- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" wrote:

>

> > Namaste Bharat,

> >

> > Thanks a lot for the birthdata! As an Indian tennis

> > fan, I am looking forward to her match against Maria

> > Sharapova tomorrow! I hope it will be a good match.

> >

> > Someone raised doubts about Capricorn lagna.

> >

> > Based on the little work I've done, this lagna seems

> > reasonable to me. For example, look at a photo of

> > her when she is laughing:

> >

> >

> >

> http://www.sania-mirza.in/photo-gallery-off-the-court.php?

page=0&scope=1&sortby=id&dir=desc&pic=88

> >

> > Look at her upper teeth. Capricorn lagna is a good

> > possibility.

> >

> > Another issue raised was why the 8th lord Sun's dasa

> > is giving fame. Well, 8th lord Sun is debilitated

> > and debilitated 8th lord is always good.

> >

> > In any cfase, she has the 10th lord Venus in 10th.

> > So Chaturaseeti Sama Dasa (CSD) is the best

> > nakshatra dasa in her chart. I would use that dasa

> > rather than Vimsottari dasa. Parasara taught

> > conditional nakshatra dasas because they work better

> > than Vimsottari dasa in some charts. After all, if

> > Vimsottari dasa is the best nakshatra dasa in all

> > charts, there was no need for Parasara to teach

> > other conditional nakshatra dasas!

> >

> > You can get CSD calculations from JHora (free

> > software - downloadable at the site given below).

> >

> > Sania Mirza is running Moon-Venus antardasa as per

> > CSD (May 2004-Feb 2006).

> >

> > Moon is the 7th lord and Venus is the 5th and 10th

> > lord and they are in samasaptaka. They aspect each

> > other very closely (within 1 deg 11 min). They give

> > a powerful raja yoga. Even in D-10, Moon is the 10th

> > lord and gives Gaja-Kesari yoga in 11th, while Venus

> > is in samasaptaka to Moon. Being the 10th and lagna

> > lords, they give a raja yoga in D-10 too. No wonder

> > Moon-Venus antardasa saw her come to limelight.

> >

> > Regarding the question on why she is a sportsperson,

> > look at rasi and dasamsa carefully. In rasi, exalted

> > Mars is in lagna (explaining her aggressive

> > personality). The 3rd from lagna has Rahu and the

> > 3rd from AL (arudha lagna) has Saturn. In navamsa,

> > Mars is a trine showing some physical abilities and

> > energy (trines in navamsa show one's basic skills).

> > Two malefics Sun and Saturn are in upachayas in

> > rasi, navamsa and dasamsa.

> >

> > Definitely, I have to work with more events to be

> > confident of the birthtime, but the data passes my

> > basic sanity check.

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > If this data is accurate, her 24th year will be a

> > crucial year and take her to great heights. As per

> > CSD, Mars dasa will start in July 2009. Mars is

> > exalted in lagna in rasi chart. He is the 7th lord

> > with 9th lord Mercury in 9th and gives a raja yoga

> > in dasamsa. He is in a dasamsa owned by Indra. He is

> > in AL.

> >

> > In the 2009-2010 annual TP chart, Venus is the ruler

> > of the year. He is the 5th lord and has an exchange

> > with 4th lord Mercury and gives a raja yoga. In D-10

> > also, lagna lord Venus joins 9th lord Mercury in 5th

> > house (9th from AL)! Moon and Jupiter are together

> > in the 7th house giving Gaja-Kesari yoga and aspect

> > lagna!

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

>

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