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Adarniya Suryaji,

Namaskar!

It is immaterial for those exalted souls, and I am sure there must be many, who

have transcended all the bondages of Desha and Kala (Time and Space!) and are

permanently fixed in the meditation of His Lotus Feet (again, I am sure He has

many! since the Gita says "Sarvatah Pani padam tat sarvato akshi

shiromukham---He has hands and feet on every side, eyes, heads and faces on

every side equally!)), as to when they celebrate Dipavali or Janmashtami, if

they (exalted souls) celebrate them at all!

 

HinduCalednar is a forum for ordinary mortals like me who want to celebrate

festivals and muhurtas on correct days. It is a forum for discussing as to

what are the correct days/dates/timings of those festivals and muhurtas as per

those very shastras that have advised us to ceelbrate festivals. If and when I

reach the exalted state, I would still,. for the sake of "Loka Sangraha" -- like

to continue to follow those very shastras for deciding their dates and timings,

because for me the Gita is very clear "na janyed budhi bedham agyanam karma

sanginam, joshayet sarva karmani vidvan yuktah samacharan!". I am sure you

know the meaning!

 

Wioth kind regards,

Avtar Krishen Kaul

-

prakki surya

HinduCalendar

Sunday, September 11, 2005 4:53 PM

Re: [HinduCalendar] The aims of HinduCal;endar forum.

The place, the time and the method of the selfish worship are not important. Be

it any place, be it any time, if you sacrifice the fruit of your work or work

without any selfishness for the deserving divine people, that is the real

festival. We have to correct our selfishness and not the date of the festival.

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

surya

jyotirved <jyotirved (AT) sify (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear members of HinduCalendar,

Namaskar!

 

Dipavali, as per all the shastras, is on October 2, 2005, and not on November 1,

2005, as is advised by Lahiriwalas and all others of that ilk including the

Rashtriya Panchanga. Similarly, Janmashtami was actually on July 27/28 and not

on August 26/27, 2005, as advised, again, by Lahiriwalas and other Panchagnas of

that ilk, including, once again, the Rashtriya Panchanga!

 

Same is the case with all other muhurtas and festivals -- all of them have gone

topsy-turvey, thanks to Lahiriwalas and their Rashichakra! This will be celar

from the file fes2005 available on this forum.

 

I have discussed all these festivals individually and collectively in the files

starting from BVB5/BVB6 and ending with Rashi5. There has also been a lot of

correspondence exchanged with the members of this forum and also other

non-members. Representations in this regard were made to anybody who soever

matters, besides some prominent saints like Pujya Sai Baba, Pujya Jagadgudu

Shankarachrya of Kamatkoti, Swami Hari Chaitayaji, Swami Ram Devji, Pujya Kirit

Bhaiji, Pujya Ramesh Ojhaji and so on and so forth. All the prominent TV

channels like Aaj Tak, NDTV, AAstha etc. etc. and newspapers llike the Hindu,

the Hindustan Times, the Times of India etc. were also informed about these

anachronisms. All this will be clear from the correspondece available on this

forum.

 

All I got till date is an "eloquent silence" from all these quarters! There can

be two reasons behind it, either I am absolutely wrong and they do not want to

waste their preceious time in informing me about the same or I am absouletly

correct and all those recepients do not want to say so since they will then

lose their face that all along they have taken a common man for a ride!

 

I am inviting more and more members to join this forum and am glad to see the

response. I request them to go through all the files metculously and

assiduously and arrive at their own conclusions. as to whether we are really

celebrating our festivals on correct days. Since most of the new members are

also affiliated to one or the other "Swamiji" or "Guruji" or "Mahatma", I would

request them to kindly peruse all the correspondence etc. and then, if they find

that my contention is correct, to get in touch with their respective Gurujis

etc. so that those Gurujis can issue proper guidelines.

 

Quite a few things will be clear from the file "Raman1" in this regardd.

 

Since the aim of this forum, as is clear from the above information, is to

streamline our calendars, I request all the members to kindly desist from

uploading any files etc.which are not relevant to the fact as to whether we are

celebating our festivals on correct days or not, as otherwise I will have to

delete those files, much against my own wishes. It is not that propagation of

some particular sect or cult or discoruses by some Swamiji do not have any

relevance to our present society, but the fact remains that this forum is

geared simply to discuss the issue whether or not we are celebrating our

festivals on correct days.

 

I must metnion it here that it pains me to see that no member of this forum is

taking an active part in this lively discussion which means they are still at

the stage of assessing the situation! But then the question arises as to how

long will they go on doing so!

 

With regards,

Avtar Krishen Kaul

 

 

SURYAsurya (AT) universal-spirituality (DOT) orgwww.universal-spirituality.org

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