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Dear Swee

I was not there in the room at the time the argument started and can only say

what others told me...That the use of 360 days per year for vimsottari dasa was

objected to by V V Diwekar ji initially and then other issues came into

question. According to this theory, vimsottari dasa works out to 108 solar

years. I wonder if this is what Parasara meant when he said 'vimsottari'. How

many solar years do you se for vimsottari dasa?

 

Om muhurta, Diwekarji has questioned the use of Dasami as an auspicious marriage

muhurta for which he has quoted the scriptures and proved. I was unable to find

the counter argument from you. Can you show me where you have answered this?

The argument that the marriage lasted is more due to the 7th house Jupiter in

the chart of the lady and not due to the faulty muhurta choise has also not

been answered.

 

Please keep this at a subject discussion only as both the people concerned are

learned in the sastra and we should not be dishonoring either in out bias or

statements. and I have found that the replies sent to the lists in the past

were more emotional outbursts than any meaningful discussion. Please quote the

portion of Divekar ji's letter which you find wrong as far as the shastra is

concerned.

 

With best wishes and warm regards,

Sanjay Rath

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sohamsa [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Swee

ChanSunday, August 28, 2005 5:43 AMsohamsa;

varahamihiraSubject: Muhurata Rationale

Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Sanjay ji,

Namaste

 

 

I have just received the July - September 2005 Jyotish Digest and refer to the

following points written by Mr. V.V. Divekar in the “Letters†section on

page 7. The gentleman has written that birth details were not furnished and

requests him to refer to the Jan-Mar 2005 issue of JD on page 50 where all

names, including birth data were provided. On Muhurtas and their inviolate

nature, Mr. V.V. Divekar’s protraction on Chandrashekhar Sharma’s disdain

on ParaçÄra’s teachings were unnecessary.

It is my believe that Chandrashekharji would ever claim to have derived a “new

system†of looking at Bhava bala but more than likely, he strictly adheres on

the method of ancients than on Çripati or Keçava systems, (which came into

practice at a much later date).

Without prejudice, I reiterate that anyone who has been a member on the Vedic

Astrology list is very aware of the fact that Chandrashekharji is a purist in

maintaining Jyotiña in its original form.

 

Muhurta Rationale:

 

On the purported remarks of Chandrashekharji on Muhurtas that are not being

drawn up for taking Pravrajya in Çankara Açram with birth details of

Çankaracaryas, these are two separate matters. Going over the same article,

you will note the following rationale:

a) One relates to an action or a ceremony, which is in the domain of Muhurta

b) The second is with regards to the birth of a living being (person).

 

So what is muhurta all about? Is every muhurta (which is recommended by the

sages) to be excluded in Sanskaras (religious rites and other ceremonies)

inviolate as is being made out? Having read many scriptures and astrological

texts, this appears to be rather unlikely.

Let us begin with marriage Muhurtas, as seems to be the controversy.

Even a beginner of astrology has heard about Simhastha Guru being one of the

excluded times for the performance of marriage and other religious ceremonies.

So is this entire year or so of the time of Guru’s residence in Simha rasi

really to be excluded? Is this the only time related to Guru that is excluded

for these ceremonies?

Let us see what is said about the ceremonies for which Simhastha Guru is to be

considered as a muhurta to avoid:

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Om Gurave Namah

 

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12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Namaste

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12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Thank you for sharing your thoughts on

the matter.

12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Skimming through Caraka

samhita (for gemstones healing) the trio with Caraka saàhitÄ contains 120

chapters, so the simple aphorism on this is that,  each chapter equates to 1 year for the 120-year

life span for us mortals

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Wingdings">JJJJ

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12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">On a serious note and for academic

purposes, there are 9 measures of time according to NP Ch56.109

12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">These are: brahmA,

deva, manu, pitrya, saura, sAvana, cAndra, aarkSa and guru.

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12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">With reference to Narada SaàhitÄ

chapter 56.113 evinces that a year is made up of 12 months

12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Chapter 54.65 The

number of Eastward revolutions in a kaliyuga= 432,000

12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">In Chapter 54.72, it states that the

number of solar months in (Kali) yuga

= 5,184,000

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12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Thus: 5,184,000/120 = 43,200

12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">            viz a viz

        =43,200/360 (days)

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IT"">                                    =

120 years

 

12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Chapter 56.111-114 – saura

mAna is used for reckoning of the motion of planets.

font-weight:bold">sAvana

bold"> mAna – pregnancy (Jataka)

clouds

bold"> and rains – nAkSatra mAna

religious

bold"> fasts, tonsures, marriage travel etc – cAndra mAna

A year –

a year by each measure is reckoned through the mean motion of Jupiter.

 

Vivaha Muhurta

12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">The sole purpose of choosing a good

muhurta is to ensure the safety and longevity (life span) of a couple,

especially for the man after mutual compatibilities of the couple’s “horror-scopeâ€

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purpose of procreation so that the lineage is continued through the patrilineal consideration.

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12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">In a Vivaha

muhurta, NP chapter 56 shloka 429-430 ½  says that tithi

forms 1 fold of the 5 fold considerations which are:

Tithi, vAra, nakSatra, yoga, karana as well as potencies of the Sun + Jupiter

(propitiate them if weak in the male or female Jataka),

Moon and Venus.

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12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Assuming cAndra

mAna  which is 30 days x 12 months = 360

days

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12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Take the 1st tithi as shukla pratipat ref.

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-127 and planets etc in combustion are also to be considered including avastha of Venus and Jupiter.

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mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">NP Chapter 56 shlokas

423 - 426

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pashcAdgrastodaye 'thavA|

saMdhyAyAM

tridinaM tadvannishIthe sapta eva ca||56.424||

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12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT";mso-fareast-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";

mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">Meaning: Avoid the three days after

their setting (combustion, infancy, old age) and three

days before their rise (again). As far as their dusks are concerned, three day

before setting and seven days before their rise should be avoided.

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mAsAnte pa~nca divasAMstyajedriktAM

tathASTamIm|

vyatIpAtaM vaidhR^itiM ca saMpUrNaM parighArddhakam||56.425||

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"Arial Unicode MS";mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";font-weight:bold">Meaning:

Five days towards the close of the (lunar) month i.e., Krishna

Ekadashi – Amavasya should

be avoided; also the 8th (Shukla Astami), and the riktA days (which

are Shukla Caturthi, Shukla NavamI, and Shukla Caturdashi). VyatIpAta and VaidhR^iti yoga

should be avoided in their entirety and half of parigha.

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mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">

mso-fareast-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Unicode

MS"">pauSNabhatryuttarAmaitramaru~

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samUlabhairaviddhaistaiH strIkaragraha iSyate||56.426||

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mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">Meaning: The following nakSatras are recommended of Vivaha

muhurta:

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"Arial Unicode MS";mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">, uttaraphalgunI,

uttarASAdha, uttarabhAdrapada, AnurAdhA, svAtI, mR^igashIrSa, hasta, maghA and

mUla when they are not in vedha (mutual affliction).

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mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">

"Arial Unicode MS";mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">Abhijit

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mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">

mso-fareast-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Unicode

MS"">caturthamabhijillagnamudayarkAS~

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"Arial Unicode MS";mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS""> saptamam|

godhUlikaM tadubhayaM vivAhe putrapautradam||56.512||

prAcyA na

ca kaliNgAnAM mukhyaM godhUlikaM smR^itam|

abhijitsarvadesheSu mukhyo doSavinAshakR^it||56.513||

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12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT";mso-fareast-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";

mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">Meaning: The fourth lagna from the

lagna at sunrise is called Abhijit and the seventh

lagna is called Godhulika. Both these are auspicious for

marriage and will bless them with sons and grandsons. Abhijit

is important for the people in the Eastern region (Bengal etc.,) and the people of Kalinga (Orissa),

Godhulika is important.

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mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Unicode MS"">To conclude, if a muhurta is SOLELY

conducive to a long lasting and happy marriage, we are wrongly portraying to

the students that the mere choice (in a muhurta) over rides one’s natal “horror-scopeâ€.

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12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">In Chandrashekharji’s

chart, Dhanus rises. Jupiter the Lagnesha

is in upachaya conjunct Moon. Gurus the 7th house and

that vargaottama Saturn is in digbala

and exchanges place with the 7th Lord, which is also in Vargottama. Guru not

only aspects Saturn and Mars but also

their mUltrikona house, viz

a viz, those planets also aspect Guru's mUltrikona House.

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12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">However, the most important point here is

the UL, which is Venus in its own sign. 2nd from UL is also aspected

by a powerful Jupiter.

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mso-bidi-language:SA">Love,

mso-bidi-language:SA">Swee

mso-bidi-language:SA">p/s I am away again

this from this evening.

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