Kunda, Nava-navamsa and JHora

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Dear PVR,

I am Using JHora 7.02 Version. Let us take this Birth Data:

DOB: 1971 November 18.

Birth Time: 2.51 AM (IST)

(5.30 East of GMT)

Log: 77 E 00 Lat: 8 N 31 (Trivandrum, Kerala)

The longitudes I get are:

Lagna: 10 Vi 08 min 31.96 sec

Kunda: 11 Ar 45 min 26.98 sec

Now right-clicking in the Navamsa chart, I am choosing 'Higher

divisions ->Normal nana-navamsa (D-81)'. Again right-clicking, I check

to see whether 'Higher divisions ->Choose nava-navamsa->Parasara's

nava-navamsa' is selected. After this right-clicking on the longitudes

pane, I am choosing, 'Choose the divisional chart for longitudes'.

Then from the drop-down list I choose 'Nava-navamsa (D-81)'.

From longitudes pane, for nava-navamsa longitude of lagna I get,

15 Ar 21| 32.11||

Therefore, as per JHora,

Lagna: 10 Vi 08 min 31.96 sec

Kunda: 11 Ar 45 min 26.98 sec

Nava-navamsa (D-81-Lagna): 15 Ar 21 min 32.11 sec

Anybody can see that, here Kunda and Nava-navamsa are different.

As per definition,

Asc x 81 = Kunda = Nava-navamsa

Therefore there should be an error in it. Either in Kunda or

Nava-navamsa or in Both. We would try to find where it is?

Now let us calculate these values manually from the longitudes

of Lagna (Asc).

Lagna = Asc = 10 Vi 08 min 31.96 sec = 5 sign - 10 deg - 8 min -

31.96 sec.

(Using windows calculator I am calculating) First let us convert

longitude of Asc into seconds.

Asc = [(5 x 30 + 10) x 60 + 8] x 60 + 31.96 = 576511.96 sec

Asc x 81 = 576511.96 x 81 = 46697468.76 sec

As the zodiac is 21600 x 60 seconds, dividing it with 21600 x

60.

46697468.76 / (21600 x 60) = 36.0319975

Discarding the whole number, that represents complete

revolution, the remaining number (0.0319975) is taken.

Now to convert it to Rasi-Bhaga-kala-vikala (Sign-Deg-min-sec),

let us first multiply it with 12. Thus we get, 0.38397. That means

Rasi is 0 (Aris). Now multiplying with 30, we get, 11.5191. That means

Bhaga (Deg) is 11. Again taking the decimal part and multiplying it

with 60, we get, 31.146. That means Kala (min) is 31. Again taking the

decimal part and multiplying it with 60, we get, 8.76. That means

Vikala (sec) is 8.76. Therefore Kunda (Nava-navamsa) longitude is 11

Ar 31 min 8.76 sec.

Manually calculating, Kunda : 11 Ar 31 min 8.76 sec.

By using JHora we get : 11 Ar 45 min 26.98 sec.

Difference = 45 min 26.98 sec - 31 min 8.76 sec. = 2726.98 - 1868.76 =

858.22 sec = 14 min 18.22 sec

OK. It is an acceptable value. Therefore I humbly take back my

words about the Kunda calculation of JHora software. It is more or

less accurate. (In Kunda calculation 14 min. is also important. I

would humbly ask is it your error or could it be mine?). Still it is

pretty clear that I have made an error in accusing PVR of making an

unacceptable error in Kunda calculation. I apologize.

The Navamsa-navamsa (D-81) calculated by JHora is nowhere near

this (15 Ar 21 min 32.11 sec). Clearly that gives an error value. PVR

has already said that he will fix it. I accept the explanation given

by PVR on this issue, and consider it as sufficient.

I would ask the JHora users to depend on Kunda sputa rather than

Nava-navamsa (D-81) given by JHora to make birth-time rectification.

(Even though by theory both of them are one and the same).

Thanks,

Sreenadh

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sreenadh,

 

> DOB: 1971 November 18.> Birth Time: 2.51 AM (IST)> (5.30 East of GMT)>

Log: 77 E 00 Lat: 8 N 31 (Trivandrum, Kerala)

> Therefore, as per JHora,> Lagna: 10 Vi 08 min 31.96 sec> Kunda: 11 Ar 45

min 26.98 sec

> Manually calculating, Kunda : 11 Ar 31 min 8.76 sec.> By using JHora we get :

11 Ar 45 min 26.98 sec.

> OK. It is an acceptable value. Therefore I humbly take back my > words about

the Kunda calculation of JHora software. It is more or > less accurate. (In

Kunda calculation 14 min. is also important. I > would humbly ask is it your

error or could it be mine?). Still it is > pretty clear that I have made an

error in accusing PVR of making an > unacceptable error in Kunda calculation. I

apologize.

 

Your apology is accepted.

 

However, when I enter this data in my computer, I get the same lagna you do but

get Kunda at 11 Ar 31' 9.08". This is much closer to the manual calculation you

gave. I wonder why you get 14 min error.

 

Usually, we have found in the past that one gets the same results out of JHora

on different computers if there are no different JHora settings that impact

that particular calculation.

And, there aren't any settings in JHora that influence Kunda. Kunda is merely

81 times lagna. I am wondering if you made some mistake or used one ayanamsa

when noting lagna and one ayanamsa when noting kunda or something like that.

Please check once more.

 

BTW, is this your chart by any chance?

 

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Narasimha

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