Guest guest Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Kunda - Birth time Rectificaion =============================== -An Article by Sreenadh (Sreelid) Introduction ------------ Kunda Multiplication method can be used for Birth time rectification. The word ‘Kunda’ originated from Paralper system (Assigning numbers to Alphabets) in Kerala. In which Ka=1 and Nda = 8. When alphabets are used to write numbers, digits should be written in reverse order. (Sankhayanam Vamatho gathi). Therefore, Kunda = 81. What is the importance of this number? 81 = 9 x 9. It shows the Navamsa-Navamsa. (It is better to use the word Navamsa-Navamsa/Nava-Navamsa to refer to Kunda. As the word Kunda has got a Kerala regional origin, and as it just notates a number, I am not supportive to Chandrahari’s idea of relating Kunda to Kundalini) The questions to be answered are: 1) Where this method originated? (What is the authentic sloka connected with this method?) 2) How it should be used? (How it should be applied?) 3) How much rectification can be attained with this method? 4) What are the demerits of this method? Let us try to answer these questions. Method ------ One of the authentic references we see about this method is on Presnamarga. It says, "Kundanikhne pridhak legne prashtre thara na chethbhaveth Kshipthva kaschith kalasthekthva(aa)neyam prashtre jenmabham" ‘If the resultant longitude, of Asc x 81 falls on the birth-star of the qurent, then the Asc is correct. If it doesn’t, increase or decrease some minutes to the Asc and again multiply with 81, and see whether it falls on the birth-star of the qurent’. According to the statement ‘Trikonagananam sarvathra yojyam’ (You should consider trine stars always) in Desadhyani (a famous vyakhya of Varaha-hora) and Hridyapadha (another famous vyakhya of Varaha-hora), the astrologers consider the trine stars of Navamsa-Navamsa as well. Asc shows the body, and Moon (birth-star) shows the mind. A combined effort of these two is necessary for a birth to take place. That is why the acharya says that both of them should be related to each other. (Another factor to be considered is the rhythm of the day. That is where the Pancha-tatva comes into play) The Presnamarga acharya is asking us to apply this method in Presna. Can it be applied for birth-time rectification in Horoscope? From where Presnamarga acharya got this method? The root of this method lies in Varaha-hora. In the words of Mihira- "Tathkalamindu sahitho dwirasamsako ya- sthathulya rasi sahitho purathassasanke yavanudethi dina-rathri samanabhaga- sthavathgathe dinaniso prevadanthi jenma" This sloka has many meanings. Kunda calculation is one of the interpreted meanings from this sloka. ‘Rasas’ are 9 in number. (Nava rasa) Therefore ‘Dwiramsaka’ means 9 x 9 =81. Therefore one of the meanings would be ‘If Asc x 81 is equal to the birth-star then it is the birth-time’. Therefore, now we can say that this method can also be applied in horoscopes. But from where Mihira got this method? The root text is Sounaka hora. In the words of the great saint Sounaka - "yedrasi samjcha aadhane seethamso syannavamsaka navamsaka navamso va soothi sthathsdhepi va vidhou" This sloka has the same meaning as included by Mihira in his sloka. Now we are sure that it is an authentic method, put forward by the great saints, for the rectification of birth-time. What are the propositions of this method? -------- The Navamsa-Navamsa (Kunda) takes 18 min to make a complete revolution of the zodiac. As we are considering the trine-stars, to cover 9 stars it takes 18/3 = 6 min. Therefore, the maximum correction we can attain by using this method is half of 6 min. i.e. (plus or minus) 3 min. If we stick to the preposition that birth-star should come in the trine-star of Kunda-sputa (Longitude of Navamsa-Navamsa), one or two ideas comes to our notice. They are- 1) No two birth can take place within an interval of 6 min. In other words, in the case of twins, there would be 6 min. difference between the birth times. (Only in the case of Siamese twins this law should be violated) 2) As the methods for sex determination from horoscopes are given in authentic texts (we can determine whether the child is boy or girl from birth-time/horoscope itself), it means that, Siamese twins should be either both boys or both girls. No Siamese twins with one of them boy and other girl would occur. (As it is a fact we know, it could be taken as a fact for the worth fullness of Navamsa-Navamsa theory) Such strong assertions pointed to by this method should be tested scientifically. If found false, we should drop this method, and search for more reliable/authentic/rational methods. In Hari’s words, ‘It all points to a rhythmic correlation between the revolution of earth (Asc) and the movement of Moon (birth-star)’. As the whole astrology is concerned with ‘the inter-connectedness of the rhythm of the universe with human/mundane destiny’, it is not only a possibility, but also a plausible research field. What are the limitations of this method? ------- Some of the limitations of this method are - 1) It only helps for (plus or minus) 3 min. correction in birth-time. So if there is an error of more than 3 minutes, Kunda multiplication method won't be of any use. 2) Authentic texts such as Skanda hora (by god Subrahmanya), Brihath prajapathyam (by Deksha prajapathi), Sounaka hora, Presna-rethnam, Presnamarga etc postulates the ‘Varga chathushtaya’ theory for birth-time rectification. The Varga-chathushtaya (4 Vargas) include - a) Navamsa (Asc x 9) b) Navamsa-Navamsa (Asc x 81) c) Dwadesamsa (Asc x 12) d) Navamsa-Dwadesamsa (Asc x 108) According to this theory, of the above 4 vargas, the trine-star of two or more should coincide with birth-star. The Skanda-hora statement - "Dridam dwi bahu samvadath sarvam vidhi dwijothama" ‘If two or more methods point to the fact that the birth-time is correct, then accept that as the correct time’, is supportive of this. Navamsa-Navamsa (Kunda) is just one of these methods. Conclusion ---------- If you are using JHora software, you will see that separate options for Nava(msa)-Navamsa and Kunda are given. The longitudes arrived at by both are different, and both of them does not seem to be correct. It seems that PVR’s understanding of Kunda (Navamsa-Navamsa) is clumsy. Otherwise, why should there be two separate options for Kunda and Navamsa-Navamsa in JHora software? Hope that PVR ji will come out with some sufficient explanation. We should always take the side of truth. This statement is especially true in the case of astrological research. At times we might be on the side of wrong arguments, and when it reveals to us that our arguments are wrong, we should be ready to revise our views. ‘Saving face shouldn’t be by sacrificing facts’. That should be the spirit of the true astrologer, who is true to goddess Saraswathy. Kunda is not an ultimate method for birth-time rectification. I have done some special research on the different methods available for birth-time rectification available in ancient texts. Totally I could find 12 methods (as per ancient texts) for birth-time rectification, and for verifying whether the Asc is correct. Of these ‘Varga-chathushtaya’ and ‘Pancha-tatva methods’ are the best ones I feel. Varga-chathushtaya method gives importance to the combined effort of Body (Asc) and Mind (Moon), while Pancha-tatva method gives importance to the rhythm of day. NB :- True doubts and criticisms are encouraged. I am always ready to accept new methods if they are found effective and authentic. I humbly submit this article before the scholars. "Ano bhadra krethvoyenthu viswatha" (Rig Veda) [Let knowledge come to me from all directions] By Sreenadh Email: sreelid __ Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Does the Jagannatha Software has two 2 different longitudes for Kunda- Lagna and Navamsa-Navamsa-Lagna? I think it is impossible. I have found that Kunda is correct and some error has crept into the Navamsa- Navamsa. N-N is given for the Lagna not rectified by Kunda and this cannot be termed as a mistake to allege deficiency on the side of the author. surya rao vedic astrology, sree nadh <sreelid> wrote: > Kunda - Birth time Rectificaion > =============================== > -An Article by Sreenadh (Sreelid) > Introduction > ------------ > Kunda Multiplication method can be used for Birth > time rectification. The word `Kunda' originated from > Paralper system (Assigning numbers to Alphabets) in > Kerala. In which Ka=1 and Nda = 8. When alphabets are > used to write numbers, digits should be written in > reverse order. (Sankhayanam Vamatho gathi). Therefore, > Kunda = 81. What is the importance of this number? 81 > = 9 x 9. It shows the Navamsa-Navamsa. (It is better > to use the word Navamsa-Navamsa/Nava-Navamsa to refer > to Kunda. As the word Kunda has got a Kerala regional > origin, and as it just notates a number, I am not > supportive to Chandrahari's idea of relating Kunda to > Kundalini) The questions to be answered are: > 1) Where this method originated? (What is the > authentic sloka connected with this method?) > 2) How it should be used? (How it should be applied?) > 3) How much rectification can be attained with this > method? > 4) What are the demerits of this method? > Let us try to answer these questions. > Method > ------ > One of the authentic references we see about this > method is on Presnamarga. It says, > "Kundanikhne pridhak legne prashtre thara na > chethbhaveth > Kshipthva kaschith kalasthekthva(aa)neyam prashtre > jenmabham" > `If the resultant longitude, of Asc x 81 falls on the > birth-star of the qurent, then the Asc is correct. If > it doesn't, increase or decrease some minutes to the > Asc and again multiply with 81, and see whether it > falls on the birth-star of the qurent'. > According to the statement `Trikonagananam sarvathra > yojyam' (You should consider trine stars always) in > Desadhyani (a famous vyakhya of Varaha-hora) and > Hridyapadha (another famous vyakhya of Varaha-hora), > the astrologers consider the trine stars of > Navamsa-Navamsa as well. Asc shows the body, and Moon > (birth-star) shows the mind. A combined effort of > these two is necessary for a birth to take place. That > is why the acharya says that both of them should be > related to each other. (Another factor to be > considered is the rhythm of the day. That is where the > Pancha-tatva comes into play) > The Presnamarga acharya is asking us to apply this > method in Presna. Can it be applied for birth-time > rectification in Horoscope? From where Presnamarga > acharya got this method? The root of this method lies > in Varaha-hora. In the words of Mihira- > "Tathkalamindu sahitho dwirasamsako ya- > sthathulya rasi sahitho purathassasanke > yavanudethi dina-rathri samanabhaga- > sthavathgathe dinaniso prevadanthi jenma" > This sloka has many meanings. Kunda calculation is > one of the interpreted meanings from this sloka. > `Rasas' are 9 in number. (Nava rasa) Therefore > `Dwiramsaka' means 9 x 9 =81. Therefore one of the > meanings would be `If Asc x 81 is equal to the > birth-star then it is the birth-time'. Therefore, now > we can say that this method can also be applied in > horoscopes. But from where Mihira got this method? The > root text is Sounaka hora. In the words of the great > saint Sounaka - > "yedrasi samjcha aadhane seethamso syannavamsaka > navamsaka navamso va soothi sthathsdhepi va vidhou" > This sloka has the same meaning as included by Mihira > in his sloka. Now we are sure that it is an authentic > method, put forward by the great saints, for the > rectification of birth-time. > What are the propositions of this method? > -------- > The Navamsa-Navamsa (Kunda) takes 18 min to make a > complete revolution of the zodiac. As we are > considering the trine-stars, to cover 9 stars it takes > 18/3 = 6 min. Therefore, the maximum correction we can > attain by using this method is half of 6 min. i.e. > (plus or minus) 3 min. > If we stick to the preposition that birth-star should > come in the trine-star of Kunda-sputa (Longitude of > Navamsa-Navamsa), one or two ideas comes to our > notice. They are- > 1) No two birth can take place within an interval of > 6 min. In other words, in the case of twins, there > would be 6 min. difference between the birth times. > (Only in the case of Siamese twins this law should be > violated) > 2) As the methods for sex determination from > horoscopes are given in authentic texts (we can > determine whether the child is boy or girl from > birth-time/horoscope itself), it means that, Siamese > twins should be either both boys or both girls. No > Siamese twins with one of them boy and other girl > would occur. (As it is a fact we know, it could be > taken as a fact for the worth fullness of > Navamsa-Navamsa theory) > Such strong assertions pointed to by this method > should be tested scientifically. If found false, we > should drop this method, and search for more > reliable/authentic/rational methods. > In Hari's words, `It all points to a rhythmic > correlation between the revolution of earth (Asc) and > the movement of Moon (birth-star)'. As the whole > astrology is concerned with `the inter-connectedness > of the rhythm of the universe with human/mundane > destiny', it is not only a possibility, but also a > plausible research field. > What are the limitations of this method? > ------- > Some of the limitations of this method are - > 1) It only helps for (plus or minus) 3 min. > correction in birth-time. So if there is an error of > more than 3 minutes, Kunda multiplication method won't > be of any use. > 2) Authentic texts such as Skanda hora (by god > Subrahmanya), Brihath prajapathyam (by Deksha > prajapathi), Sounaka hora, Presna-rethnam, Presnamarga > etc postulates the `Varga chathushtaya' theory for > birth-time rectification. The Varga-chathushtaya (4 > Vargas) include - > a) Navamsa (Asc x 9) > b) Navamsa-Navamsa (Asc x 81) > c) Dwadesamsa (Asc x 12) > d) Navamsa-Dwadesamsa (Asc x 108) > According to this theory, of the above 4 vargas, the > trine-star of two or more should coincide with > birth-star. The Skanda-hora statement - > "Dridam dwi bahu samvadath sarvam vidhi dwijothama" > `If two or more methods point to the fact that the > birth-time is correct, then accept that as the correct > time', is supportive of this. Navamsa-Navamsa (Kunda) > is just one of these methods. > Conclusion > ---------- > If you are using JHora software, you will see that > separate options for Nava(msa)-Navamsa and Kunda are > given. The longitudes arrived at by both are > different, and both of them does not seem to be > correct. It seems that PVR's understanding of Kunda > (Navamsa-Navamsa) is clumsy. Otherwise, why should > there be two separate options for Kunda and > Navamsa-Navamsa in JHora software? Hope that PVR ji > will come out with some sufficient explanation. > We should always take the side of truth. This > statement is especially true in the case of > astrological research. At times we might be on the > side of wrong arguments, and when it reveals to us > that our arguments are wrong, we should be ready to > revise our views. `Saving face shouldn't be by > sacrificing facts'. That should be the spirit of the > true astrologer, who is true to goddess Saraswathy. > Kunda is not an ultimate method for birth-time > rectification. I have done some special research on > the different methods available for birth-time > rectification available in ancient texts. Totally I > could find 12 methods (as per ancient texts) for > birth-time rectification, and for verifying whether > the Asc is correct. Of these `Varga-chathushtaya' and > `Pancha-tatva methods' are the best ones I feel. > Varga-chathushtaya method gives importance to the > combined effort of Body (Asc) and Mind (Moon), while > Pancha-tatva method gives importance to the rhythm of > day. > > NB :- True doubts and criticisms are encouraged. I am > always ready to accept new methods if they are found > effective and authentic. I humbly submit this article > before the scholars. > "Ano bhadra krethvoyenthu viswatha" (Rig Veda) > [Let knowledge come to me from all directions] > By Sreenadh > Email: sreelid > > > > > __ > Start your day with - make it your home page > http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Dear Sreenadh, The Kunda given done in JHora is quite accurate. If you can give an example, we can discuss it further. > given. The longitudes arrived at by both are> different, and both of them does not seem to be> correct. It seems that PVR's understanding of Kunda> (Navamsa-Navamsa) is clumsy. My understanding of a lot of things may be clumsy compared to that of more learned people, but I am afraid my understanding of Kunda is ok. > Otherwise, why should> there be two separate options for Kunda and> Navamsa-Navamsa in JHora software? JHora offers two kinds of nava-navamsas. If the nava-navamsa option chosen by you is the "Kalachakra nava-navamsa", then nava-navamsa longitude and Kunda are totally different. That is why I have to give both as separate things. Kunda has been there in the software for a long time. Divisional longitudes were recently added on an experimental basis and were not thoroughly tested. Divisional longitudes in navamsa, dasamsa etc are accurate, but there seems to be a gross rounding error that is multiplying in the case of divisional longitudes given in "vargat vargas". Thus, divisional longitudes of lagna and planets given for D-81 seem to be off. I will look into it. However, Kunda's longitude is found accurately by JHora. While nava-navamsa longitude is found in a round-about way where rounding errors multiply, Kunda is directly found by multiplying lagna's longitude by 81 and removing multiples of 360. So the Kunda given by JHora must be quite accurate. If you are getting different calculations, you may be making a mistake. Please give the birthdata and the longitude of lagna and I can go through the calculations. Let me give an example. Take the following birthdata: 1963 August 7, 21:15 (IST), 83e58, 21n27. The longitude of lagna with Lahiri ayanamsa is 14 Pi 4' 55.90". This translates to 344.08219444 deg. Multiplying this with 81, we get 27870.65775. Removing multiples of 360 from this, we get 150.65775. This translates to 0 Vi 39' 28". JHora gives 0 Vi 39' 27.95". That is correct. If you say that the Nava-navamsa divisional longitude given by JHora has an error, I can understand it (and I will fix it). But I absolutely don't understand why you think that the longitude of Kunda given by JHora is wrong. It is very accurate as far as I know. BTW, my understanding of Kunda is formed based on the writings of my guru Pt Sanjay Rath in his book ("Crux of Vedic Astrology: Timing of Events"). > Hope that PVR ji> will come out with some sufficient explanation. I hope the above is useful. I do acknowledge a problem in the D-81 divisional longitudes given in JHora, but I insist that the Kunda longitude given by JHora is quite accurate. If you give any examples, we can discuss further. My feeling is that YOU are making a calculation error. > We should always take the side of truth. > We should always take the side of truth. This> statement is especially true in the case of> astrological research. At times we might be on the> side of wrong arguments, and when it reveals to us> that our arguments are wrong, we should be ready to> revise our views. `Saving face shouldn't be by> sacrificing facts'. That should be the spirit of the> true astrologer, who is true to goddess Saraswathy. Only Saraswathy knows whether I am true to Her or not. But I am never worried about "saving face". When I found logic to convince myself that my own previous teaching or stand was wrong, I never hesitated to correct myself. I accepted mistakes in my book, my software and my teachings. I am always looking to correct myself. Sometimes, my sincerity and honesty in the pursuit of correct knowledge even got me in trouble with some people. IF you give an example where the Kunda longitude given by JHora is inaccurate, I will own it up. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha -------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- > If you are using JHora software, you will see that> separate options for Nava(msa)-Navamsa and Kunda are> given. The longitudes arrived at by both are> different, and both of them does not seem to be> correct. It seems that PVR's understanding of Kunda> (Navamsa-Navamsa) is clumsy. Otherwise, why should> there be two separate options for Kunda and> Navamsa-Navamsa in JHora software? Hope that PVR ji> will come out with some sufficient explanation.> We should always take the side of truth. This> statement is especially true in the case of> astrological research. At times we might be on the> side of wrong arguments, and when it reveals to us> that our arguments are wrong, we should be ready to> revise our views. `Saving face shouldn't be by> sacrificing facts'. That should be the spirit of the> true astrologer, who is true to goddess Saraswathy.> Kunda is not an ultimate method for birth-time> rectification. I have done some special research on> the different methods available for birth-time> rectification available in ancient texts. Totally I> could find 12 methods (as per ancient texts) for> birth-time rectification, and for verifying whether> the Asc is correct. Of these `Varga-chathushtaya' and> `Pancha-tatva methods' are the best ones I feel.> Varga-chathushtaya method gives importance to the> combined effort of Body (Asc) and Mind (Moon), while> Pancha-tatva method gives importance to the rhythm of> day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Dear shri Sreenadh Thanks a lot for making us aware of the numerous methods in detail. Hope you will provide some examples. Regds Pradeep vedic astrology, sree nadh <sreelid> wrote: > Kunda - Birth time Rectificaion > =============================== > -An Article by Sreenadh (Sreelid) > Introduction > ------------ > Kunda Multiplication method can be used for Birth > time rectification. The word `Kunda' originated from > Paralper system (Assigning numbers to Alphabets) in > Kerala. In which Ka=1 and Nda = 8. When alphabets are > used to write numbers, digits should be written in > reverse order. (Sankhayanam Vamatho gathi). Therefore, > Kunda = 81. What is the importance of this number? 81 > = 9 x 9. It shows the Navamsa-Navamsa. (It is better > to use the word Navamsa-Navamsa/Nava-Navamsa to refer > to Kunda. As the word Kunda has got a Kerala regional > origin, and as it just notates a number, I am not > supportive to Chandrahari's idea of relating Kunda to > Kundalini) The questions to be answered are: > 1) Where this method originated? (What is the > authentic sloka connected with this method?) > 2) How it should be used? (How it should be applied?) > 3) How much rectification can be attained with this > method? > 4) What are the demerits of this method? > Let us try to answer these questions. > Method > ------ > One of the authentic references we see about this > method is on Presnamarga. It says, > "Kundanikhne pridhak legne prashtre thara na > chethbhaveth > Kshipthva kaschith kalasthekthva(aa)neyam prashtre > jenmabham" > `If the resultant longitude, of Asc x 81 falls on the > birth-star of the qurent, then the Asc is correct. If > it doesn't, increase or decrease some minutes to the > Asc and again multiply with 81, and see whether it > falls on the birth-star of the qurent'. > According to the statement `Trikonagananam sarvathra > yojyam' (You should consider trine stars always) in > Desadhyani (a famous vyakhya of Varaha-hora) and > Hridyapadha (another famous vyakhya of Varaha-hora), > the astrologers consider the trine stars of > Navamsa-Navamsa as well. Asc shows the body, and Moon > (birth-star) shows the mind. A combined effort of > these two is necessary for a birth to take place. That > is why the acharya says that both of them should be > related to each other. (Another factor to be > considered is the rhythm of the day. That is where the > Pancha-tatva comes into play) > The Presnamarga acharya is asking us to apply this > method in Presna. Can it be applied for birth-time > rectification in Horoscope? From where Presnamarga > acharya got this method? The root of this method lies > in Varaha-hora. In the words of Mihira- > "Tathkalamindu sahitho dwirasamsako ya- > sthathulya rasi sahitho purathassasanke > yavanudethi dina-rathri samanabhaga- > sthavathgathe dinaniso prevadanthi jenma" > This sloka has many meanings. Kunda calculation is > one of the interpreted meanings from this sloka. > `Rasas' are 9 in number. (Nava rasa) Therefore > `Dwiramsaka' means 9 x 9 =81. Therefore one of the > meanings would be `If Asc x 81 is equal to the > birth-star then it is the birth-time'. Therefore, now > we can say that this method can also be applied in > horoscopes. But from where Mihira got this method? The > root text is Sounaka hora. In the words of the great > saint Sounaka - > "yedrasi samjcha aadhane seethamso syannavamsaka > navamsaka navamso va soothi sthathsdhepi va vidhou" > This sloka has the same meaning as included by Mihira > in his sloka. Now we are sure that it is an authentic > method, put forward by the great saints, for the > rectification of birth-time. > What are the propositions of this method? > -------- > The Navamsa-Navamsa (Kunda) takes 18 min to make a > complete revolution of the zodiac. As we are > considering the trine-stars, to cover 9 stars it takes > 18/3 = 6 min. Therefore, the maximum correction we can > attain by using this method is half of 6 min. i.e. > (plus or minus) 3 min. > If we stick to the preposition that birth-star should > come in the trine-star of Kunda-sputa (Longitude of > Navamsa-Navamsa), one or two ideas comes to our > notice. They are- > 1) No two birth can take place within an interval of > 6 min. In other words, in the case of twins, there > would be 6 min. difference between the birth times. > (Only in the case of Siamese twins this law should be > violated) > 2) As the methods for sex determination from > horoscopes are given in authentic texts (we can > determine whether the child is boy or girl from > birth-time/horoscope itself), it means that, Siamese > twins should be either both boys or both girls. No > Siamese twins with one of them boy and other girl > would occur. (As it is a fact we know, it could be > taken as a fact for the worth fullness of > Navamsa-Navamsa theory) > Such strong assertions pointed to by this method > should be tested scientifically. If found false, we > should drop this method, and search for more > reliable/authentic/rational methods. > In Hari's words, `It all points to a rhythmic > correlation between the revolution of earth (Asc) and > the movement of Moon (birth-star)'. As the whole > astrology is concerned with `the inter-connectedness > of the rhythm of the universe with human/mundane > destiny', it is not only a possibility, but also a > plausible research field. > What are the limitations of this method? > ------- > Some of the limitations of this method are - > 1) It only helps for (plus or minus) 3 min. > correction in birth-time. So if there is an error of > more than 3 minutes, Kunda multiplication method won't > be of any use. > 2) Authentic texts such as Skanda hora (by god > Subrahmanya), Brihath prajapathyam (by Deksha > prajapathi), Sounaka hora, Presna-rethnam, Presnamarga > etc postulates the `Varga chathushtaya' theory for > birth-time rectification. The Varga-chathushtaya (4 > Vargas) include - > a) Navamsa (Asc x 9) > b) Navamsa-Navamsa (Asc x 81) > c) Dwadesamsa (Asc x 12) > d) Navamsa-Dwadesamsa (Asc x 108) > According to this theory, of the above 4 vargas, the > trine-star of two or more should coincide with > birth-star. The Skanda-hora statement - > "Dridam dwi bahu samvadath sarvam vidhi dwijothama" > `If two or more methods point to the fact that the > birth-time is correct, then accept that as the correct > time', is supportive of this. Navamsa-Navamsa (Kunda) > is just one of these methods. > Conclusion > ---------- > If you are using JHora software, you will see that > separate options for Nava(msa)-Navamsa and Kunda are > given. The longitudes arrived at by both are > different, and both of them does not seem to be > correct. It seems that PVR's understanding of Kunda > (Navamsa-Navamsa) is clumsy. Otherwise, why should > there be two separate options for Kunda and > Navamsa-Navamsa in JHora software? Hope that PVR ji > will come out with some sufficient explanation. > We should always take the side of truth. This > statement is especially true in the case of > astrological research. At times we might be on the > side of wrong arguments, and when it reveals to us > that our arguments are wrong, we should be ready to > revise our views. `Saving face shouldn't be by > sacrificing facts'. That should be the spirit of the > true astrologer, who is true to goddess Saraswathy. > Kunda is not an ultimate method for birth-time > rectification. I have done some special research on > the different methods available for birth-time > rectification available in ancient texts. Totally I > could find 12 methods (as per ancient texts) for > birth-time rectification, and for verifying whether > the Asc is correct. Of these `Varga-chathushtaya' and > `Pancha-tatva methods' are the best ones I feel. > Varga-chathushtaya method gives importance to the > combined effort of Body (Asc) and Mind (Moon), while > Pancha-tatva method gives importance to the rhythm of > day. > > NB :- True doubts and criticisms are encouraged. I am > always ready to accept new methods if they are found > effective and authentic. I humbly submit this article > before the scholars. > "Ano bhadra krethvoyenthu viswatha" (Rig Veda) > [Let knowledge come to me from all directions] > By Sreenadh > Email: sreelid > > > > > __ > Start your day with - make it your home page > http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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