Question to all- Integrity of Jyotish Reading

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|| Hare Rama Krishna |

 

Namaste Partha Ji and all,

 

I agree with your statements. Knowledge is supreme, however everyone merely has

"there understanding of the knowledge". Intuition, as Partha Ji you point out,

is largely a product without logic, but generally works like a bulls'eye, if

followed with purity.

 

Symmetry between mind and heart is Harmony.

 

Namaste;

Gaurav

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Respected Members,

 

Generally once a horoscope is interpreted by an astrologer it is the

normal practise to go along with what has been said and try to

overcome those problems, but what happens if one astrologer says

something completely opposite of another astrolger? As astrological

advice can have a far-stretched affect on a persons life it is

necessary therefore to seek the advice of the consensus - a second or

third opinion even.

 

My horoscope details when interpreted by astrologers in the past have

always indicated a problem with getting along with people in terms of

relationships and so-forth, and have also termed me manglik, however

i have always felt that im actually a very kind hearted and nice

person to get along with then why do i always feel as if i cannot

relate to everyone properly, or shy away from certain social

situations. Astrologers have pedicted that because of my rahu-ketu on

the first-seventh house axis coupled with mars in the first house

would cause me a divorce. But i also have jupiter in lagna WITH the

Mangal and Rahu, so would that not be a positive affect on my

marriage?

 

 

Till now i have always accepted the fact that i will have marital

problems once i get married (as i am still single)and learned to cope

with the fact that marriage will not be heaven for me. However,

recently one astrolger said that i will have a happy marriage and

will not have anything like a divorce etc and it was said that all

other astrolgers have been incorrect in advising me so.

 

I respect all astrolgers advices, and understand that everyone will

have a different interpretation of events, However astrology cannot

be so far different that two people give such opposite views...or can

it?

 

So i therefore ask the opinion of everyone in this group to give me

the views of their interpretations and how such conclusions have been

reached.

 

I am a Leo Ascendant, with Mars/Rahu/Jupiter in lagna,

Mercury/Ketu in 7th house.

 

My details are:

Date of Birth: 05 February 1980

Time of Birth: 07:10 PM

place: London, UK

 

It will be interestin to know how astrologers can caste their views

on the different aspects in this chart! Many thanks- look forward to

the conclusion.

 

Warm Regards,

Shivani

[Guest guest]

Hello Shivani

 

Different astrologers give different viewpoints, based upon their

knowledge and experience. Some always see positive even in the most

negative charts, and some see negative in the most positive charts.

It is better not to consult astrologers in the first place, and do

self introspection.

 

Even when you take opinions of various people(astrologers),

understand that the opinion is biased by so many subjective factors

which makes it highly complicated.

 

The best course of action is to follow what your heart says. If you

know that you are kind hearted and helping lot, then what is the need

to react to their opinion? We react only when we believe it to be

true. Resistance comes only when we dont accept a situation.

Atleast that is what i say to people who come to me for consultation.

I Just ask them to follow their heart as it never shows you the wrong

path. No prediction in this world, even when made by a saint can come

correct, if the consciousness of the individual, or the group agrees

to it. If the Consciousness doesnot agree to what has been predicted,

then some other reality is chosen, and only that reality is

experienced.

 

But astrologers will justify any event, because the knowledge is so

vast, techniques so many, tools so many that any event can be

justified by clever analysis.

 

And even future predictions are actually never made by astrology, all

future predictions are actually made by intuition, under the garb or

clothing of astrological analysis.

 

I will tell you an incident. Once a old man came to me and asked me

if his daugher will find employment in the coming month. She was

unemployed for almost 6 months. When i opened her chart, i couldnot

see how she could get a job based upon the knowledge that i had

aquired. But still i predicted a job on May 19th. She indeed got a

job on that day, but my knowledge failed there and intuition worked.

 

Some people might opine that i missed a trick or a technique, and if

i would have used that trick then definitely i would have known why

the event took place. But they will not or cannot answer me, when i

ask how come i predicted using time of births that were sometimes off

by minutes, sometimes days, sometimes even years.

 

We can reach to right conclusion without using

any "perfect "astrological tool is my experience after reading some

thousands of charts.

 

So what is the purpose of astrology if not prediction. I now

understand that it can be used as a self development and aspiritual

tool. But that too till an extent. After one crosses the river, the

boat is no longer required. Similarly astrology can be used just like

a boat.

 

 

best wishes

partha

 

vedic astrology, "shivani_dass"

<shivani_dass> wrote:

> Respected Members,

>

> Generally once a horoscope is interpreted by an astrologer it is the

> normal practise to go along with what has been said and try to

> overcome those problems, but what happens if one astrologer says

> something completely opposite of another astrolger? As astrological

> advice can have a far-stretched affect on a persons life it is

> necessary therefore to seek the advice of the consensus - a second

or

> third opinion even.

>

> My horoscope details when interpreted by astrologers in the past

have

> always indicated a problem with getting along with people in terms

of

> relationships and so-forth, and have also termed me manglik, however

> i have always felt that im actually a very kind hearted and nice

> person to get along with then why do i always feel as if i cannot

> relate to everyone properly, or shy away from certain social

> situations. Astrologers have pedicted that because of my rahu-ketu

on

> the first-seventh house axis coupled with mars in the first house

> would cause me a divorce. But i also have jupiter in lagna WITH the

> Mangal and Rahu, so would that not be a positive affect on my

> marriage?

>

>

> Till now i have always accepted the fact that i will have marital

> problems once i get married (as i am still single)and learned to

cope

> with the fact that marriage will not be heaven for me. However,

> recently one astrolger said that i will have a happy marriage and

> will not have anything like a divorce etc and it was said that all

> other astrolgers have been incorrect in advising me so.

>

> I respect all astrolgers advices, and understand that everyone will

> have a different interpretation of events, However astrology cannot

> be so far different that two people give such opposite views...or

can

> it?

>

> So i therefore ask the opinion of everyone in this group to give me

> the views of their interpretations and how such conclusions have

been

> reached.

>

> I am a Leo Ascendant, with Mars/Rahu/Jupiter in lagna,

> Mercury/Ketu in 7th house.

>

> My details are:

> Date of Birth: 05 February 1980

> Time of Birth: 07:10 PM

> place: London, UK

>

> It will be interestin to know how astrologers can caste their views

> on the different aspects in this chart! Many thanks- look forward to

> the conclusion.

>

> Warm Regards,

> Shivani

[Guest guest]

Hi

 

I agree with Shivan's view , as i also seen that

different astrologers uses different methods and try

justify that there method is more acurate, but i seen

when i apply that method in some other cases it fails.

Even great guru's like PVR is saying astrology is an

art not science.I think this problem can be solved

when

we all put our expertise in experimenting different

charts and try to give results on a unified

theory.When

we unifies the approach , it makes prediction more

accurate.It helps the others to understand, as all are

following same methods in prediction.We all should

work towards making a single approach in prediction

which will solve all the problems

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

--- "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu wrote:

 

> Hello Shivani

>

> Different astrologers give different viewpoints,

> based upon their

> knowledge and experience. Some always see positive

> even in the most

> negative charts, and some see negative in the most

> positive charts.

> It is better not to consult astrologers in the first

> place, and do

> self introspection.

>

> Even when you take opinions of various

> people(astrologers),

> understand that the opinion is biased by so many

> subjective factors

> which makes it highly complicated.

>

> The best course of action is to follow what your

> heart says. If you

> know that you are kind hearted and helping lot, then

> what is the need

> to react to their opinion? We react only when we

> believe it to be

> true. Resistance comes only when we dont accept a

> situation.

> Atleast that is what i say to people who come to me

> for consultation.

> I Just ask them to follow their heart as it never

> shows you the wrong

> path. No prediction in this world, even when made by

> a saint can come

> correct, if the consciousness of the individual, or

> the group agrees

> to it. If the Consciousness doesnot agree to what

> has been predicted,

> then some other reality is chosen, and only that

> reality is

> experienced.

>

> But astrologers will justify any event, because the

> knowledge is so

> vast, techniques so many, tools so many that any

> event can be

> justified by clever analysis.

>

> And even future predictions are actually never made

> by astrology, all

> future predictions are actually made by intuition,

> under the garb or

> clothing of astrological analysis.

>

> I will tell you an incident. Once a old man came to

> me and asked me

> if his daugher will find employment in the coming

> month. She was

> unemployed for almost 6 months. When i opened her

> chart, i couldnot

> see how she could get a job based upon the knowledge

> that i had

> aquired. But still i predicted a job on May 19th.

> She indeed got a

> job on that day, but my knowledge failed there and

> intuition worked.

>

> Some people might opine that i missed a trick or a

> technique, and if

> i would have used that trick then definitely i would

> have known why

> the event took place. But they will not or cannot

> answer me, when i

> ask how come i predicted using time of births that

> were sometimes off

> by minutes, sometimes days, sometimes even years.

>

> We can reach to right conclusion without using

> any "perfect "astrological tool is my experience

> after reading some

> thousands of charts.

>

> So what is the purpose of astrology if not

> prediction. I now

> understand that it can be used as a self development

> and aspiritual

> tool. But that too till an extent. After one crosses

> the river, the

> boat is no longer required. Similarly astrology can

> be used just like

> a boat.

>

>

> best wishes

> partha

>

> vedic astrology,

> "shivani_dass"

> <shivani_dass> wrote:

> > Respected Members,

> >

> > Generally once a horoscope is interpreted by an

> astrologer it is the

> > normal practise to go along with what has been

> said and try to

> > overcome those problems, but what happens if one

> astrologer says

> > something completely opposite of another

> astrolger? As astrological

> > advice can have a far-stretched affect on a

> persons life it is

> > necessary therefore to seek the advice of the

> consensus - a second

> or

> > third opinion even.

> >

> > My horoscope details when interpreted by

> astrologers in the past

> have

> > always indicated a problem with getting along with

> people in terms

> of

> > relationships and so-forth, and have also termed

> me manglik, however

> > i have always felt that im actually a very kind

> hearted and nice

> > person to get along with then why do i always feel

> as if i cannot

> > relate to everyone properly, or shy away from

> certain social

> > situations. Astrologers have pedicted that because

> of my rahu-ketu

> on

> > the first-seventh house axis coupled with mars in

> the first house

> > would cause me a divorce. But i also have jupiter

> in lagna WITH the

> > Mangal and Rahu, so would that not be a positive

> affect on my

> > marriage?

> >

> >

> > Till now i have always accepted the fact that i

> will have marital

> > problems once i get married (as i am still

> single)and learned to

> cope

> > with the fact that marriage will not be heaven for

> me. However,

> > recently one astrolger said that i will have a

> happy marriage and

> > will not have anything like a divorce etc and it

> was said that all

> > other astrolgers have been incorrect in advising

> me so.

> >

> > I respect all astrolgers advices, and understand

> that everyone will

> > have a different interpretation of events, However

> astrology cannot

> > be so far different that two people give such

> opposite views...or

> can

> > it?

> >

> > So i therefore ask the opinion of everyone in this

> group to give me

> > the views of their interpretations and how such

> conclusions have

> been

> > reached.

> >

> > I am a Leo Ascendant, with Mars/Rahu/Jupiter in

> lagna,

> > Mercury/Ketu in 7th house.

> >

> > My details are:

> > Date of Birth: 05 February 1980

> > Time of Birth: 07:10 PM

> > place: London, UK

> >

> > It will be interestin to know how astrologers can

> caste their views

> > on the different aspects in this chart! Many

> thanks- look forward to

> > the conclusion.

> >

> > Warm Regards,

> > Shivani

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Santhosh

 

That will never happen. There can never be a unified theory in

astrology. Every rule in astrology has an exception.

The debate to get a unified theory, a uniform system that will work

all the times for all the people is the biggest illusion under which

we have lived for thousands of years, and will continue to do so,

unless we wake up.

best wishes

partha

 

 

vedic astrology, santhosh A

<santhosh_room_41> wrote:

> Hi

>

> I agree with Shivan's view , as i also seen that

> different astrologers uses different methods and try

> justify that there method is more acurate, but i seen

> when i apply that method in some other cases it fails.

> Even great guru's like PVR is saying astrology is an

> art not science.I think this problem can be solved

> when

> we all put our expertise in experimenting different

> charts and try to give results on a unified

> theory.When

> we unifies the approach , it makes prediction more

> accurate.It helps the others to understand, as all are

> following same methods in prediction.We all should

> work towards making a single approach in prediction

> which will solve all the problems

>

> Regards

> Santhosh

>

> --- "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote:

>

> > Hello Shivani

> >

> > Different astrologers give different viewpoints,

> > based upon their

> > knowledge and experience. Some always see positive

> > even in the most

> > negative charts, and some see negative in the most

> > positive charts.

> > It is better not to consult astrologers in the first

> > place, and do

> > self introspection.

> >

> > Even when you take opinions of various

> > people(astrologers),

> > understand that the opinion is biased by so many

> > subjective factors

> > which makes it highly complicated.

> >

> > The best course of action is to follow what your

> > heart says. If you

> > know that you are kind hearted and helping lot, then

> > what is the need

> > to react to their opinion? We react only when we

> > believe it to be

> > true. Resistance comes only when we dont accept a

> > situation.

> > Atleast that is what i say to people who come to me

> > for consultation.

> > I Just ask them to follow their heart as it never

> > shows you the wrong

> > path. No prediction in this world, even when made by

> > a saint can come

> > correct, if the consciousness of the individual, or

> > the group agrees

> > to it. If the Consciousness doesnot agree to what

> > has been predicted,

> > then some other reality is chosen, and only that

> > reality is

> > experienced.

> >

> > But astrologers will justify any event, because the

> > knowledge is so

> > vast, techniques so many, tools so many that any

> > event can be

> > justified by clever analysis.

> >

> > And even future predictions are actually never made

> > by astrology, all

> > future predictions are actually made by intuition,

> > under the garb or

> > clothing of astrological analysis.

> >

> > I will tell you an incident. Once a old man came to

> > me and asked me

> > if his daugher will find employment in the coming

> > month. She was

> > unemployed for almost 6 months. When i opened her

> > chart, i couldnot

> > see how she could get a job based upon the knowledge

> > that i had

> > aquired. But still i predicted a job on May 19th.

> > She indeed got a

> > job on that day, but my knowledge failed there and

> > intuition worked.

> >

> > Some people might opine that i missed a trick or a

> > technique, and if

> > i would have used that trick then definitely i would

> > have known why

> > the event took place. But they will not or cannot

> > answer me, when i

> > ask how come i predicted using time of births that

> > were sometimes off

> > by minutes, sometimes days, sometimes even years.

> >

> > We can reach to right conclusion without using

> > any "perfect "astrological tool is my experience

> > after reading some

> > thousands of charts.

> >

> > So what is the purpose of astrology if not

> > prediction. I now

> > understand that it can be used as a self development

> > and aspiritual

> > tool. But that too till an extent. After one crosses

> > the river, the

> > boat is no longer required. Similarly astrology can

> > be used just like

> > a boat.

> >

> >

> > best wishes

> > partha

> >

> > vedic astrology,

> > "shivani_dass"

> > <shivani_dass> wrote:

> > > Respected Members,

> > >

> > > Generally once a horoscope is interpreted by an

> > astrologer it is the

> > > normal practise to go along with what has been

> > said and try to

> > > overcome those problems, but what happens if one

> > astrologer says

> > > something completely opposite of another

> > astrolger? As astrological

> > > advice can have a far-stretched affect on a

> > persons life it is

> > > necessary therefore to seek the advice of the

> > consensus - a second

> > or

> > > third opinion even.

> > >

> > > My horoscope details when interpreted by

> > astrologers in the past

> > have

> > > always indicated a problem with getting along with

> > people in terms

> > of

> > > relationships and so-forth, and have also termed

> > me manglik, however

> > > i have always felt that im actually a very kind

> > hearted and nice

> > > person to get along with then why do i always feel

> > as if i cannot

> > > relate to everyone properly, or shy away from

> > certain social

> > > situations. Astrologers have pedicted that because

> > of my rahu-ketu

> > on

> > > the first-seventh house axis coupled with mars in

> > the first house

> > > would cause me a divorce. But i also have jupiter

> > in lagna WITH the

> > > Mangal and Rahu, so would that not be a positive

> > affect on my

> > > marriage?

> > >

> > >

> > > Till now i have always accepted the fact that i

> > will have marital

> > > problems once i get married (as i am still

> > single)and learned to

> > cope

> > > with the fact that marriage will not be heaven for

> > me. However,

> > > recently one astrolger said that i will have a

> > happy marriage and

> > > will not have anything like a divorce etc and it

> > was said that all

> > > other astrolgers have been incorrect in advising

> > me so.

> > >

> > > I respect all astrolgers advices, and understand

> > that everyone will

> > > have a different interpretation of events, However

> > astrology cannot

> > > be so far different that two people give such

> > opposite views...or

> > can

> > > it?

> > >

> > > So i therefore ask the opinion of everyone in this

> > group to give me

> > > the views of their interpretations and how such

> > conclusions have

> > been

> > > reached.

> > >

> > > I am a Leo Ascendant, with Mars/Rahu/Jupiter in

> > lagna,

> > > Mercury/Ketu in 7th house.

> > >

> > > My details are:

> > > Date of Birth: 05 February 1980

> > > Time of Birth: 07:10 PM

> > > place: London, UK

> > >

> > > It will be interestin to know how astrologers can

> > caste their views

> > > on the different aspects in this chart! Many

> > thanks- look forward to

> > > the conclusion.

> > >

> > > Warm Regards,

> > > Shivani

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Dear Partha Sarathy

 

Really true, the verses given by rishi's is a

single approach principle, it is in the interpretation

of those verses has lead us to understand it

differently and made everbody to go on there way.This

can be corrected if our great current astology guru's

understand what the each slokas says exactly and unify

it.I know it is very difficult ,but unless it is being

done we still all able to use astology for random

intrepretations not exact prediction.

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

 

 

--- "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu wrote:

 

> Dear Santhosh

>

> That will never happen. There can never be a

> unified theory in

> astrology. Every rule in astrology has an exception.

>

> The debate to get a unified theory, a uniform system

> that will work

> all the times for all the people is the biggest

> illusion under which

> we have lived for thousands of years, and will

> continue to do so,

> unless we wake up.

> best wishes

> partha

>

>

> vedic astrology, santhosh A

> <santhosh_room_41> wrote:

> > Hi

> >

> > I agree with Shivan's view , as i also seen that

> > different astrologers uses different methods and

> try

> > justify that there method is more acurate, but i

> seen

> > when i apply that method in some other cases it

> fails.

> > Even great guru's like PVR is saying astrology is

> an

> > art not science.I think this problem can be solved

> > when

> > we all put our expertise in experimenting

> different

> > charts and try to give results on a unified

> > theory.When

> > we unifies the approach , it makes prediction more

> > accurate.It helps the others to understand, as all

> are

> > following same methods in prediction.We all should

> > work towards making a single approach in

> prediction

> > which will solve all the problems

> >

> > Regards

> > Santhosh

> >

> > --- "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote:

> >

> > > Hello Shivani

> > >

> > > Different astrologers give different viewpoints,

> > > based upon their

> > > knowledge and experience. Some always see

> positive

> > > even in the most

> > > negative charts, and some see negative in the

> most

> > > positive charts.

> > > It is better not to consult astrologers in the

> first

> > > place, and do

> > > self introspection.

> > >

> > > Even when you take opinions of various

> > > people(astrologers),

> > > understand that the opinion is biased by so many

> > > subjective factors

> > > which makes it highly complicated.

> > >

> > > The best course of action is to follow what your

> > > heart says. If you

> > > know that you are kind hearted and helping lot,

> then

> > > what is the need

> > > to react to their opinion? We react only when we

> > > believe it to be

> > > true. Resistance comes only when we dont accept

> a

> > > situation.

> > > Atleast that is what i say to people who come to

> me

> > > for consultation.

> > > I Just ask them to follow their heart as it

> never

> > > shows you the wrong

> > > path. No prediction in this world, even when

> made by

> > > a saint can come

> > > correct, if the consciousness of the individual,

> or

> > > the group agrees

> > > to it. If the Consciousness doesnot agree to

> what

> > > has been predicted,

> > > then some other reality is chosen, and only that

> > > reality is

> > > experienced.

> > >

> > > But astrologers will justify any event, because

> the

> > > knowledge is so

> > > vast, techniques so many, tools so many that any

> > > event can be

> > > justified by clever analysis.

> > >

> > > And even future predictions are actually never

> made

> > > by astrology, all

> > > future predictions are actually made by

> intuition,

> > > under the garb or

> > > clothing of astrological analysis.

> > >

> > > I will tell you an incident. Once a old man came

> to

> > > me and asked me

> > > if his daugher will find employment in the

> coming

> > > month. She was

> > > unemployed for almost 6 months. When i opened

> her

> > > chart, i couldnot

> > > see how she could get a job based upon the

> knowledge

> > > that i had

> > > aquired. But still i predicted a job on May

> 19th.

> > > She indeed got a

> > > job on that day, but my knowledge failed there

> and

> > > intuition worked.

> > >

> > > Some people might opine that i missed a trick or

> a

> > > technique, and if

> > > i would have used that trick then definitely i

> would

> > > have known why

> > > the event took place. But they will not or

> cannot

> > > answer me, when i

> > > ask how come i predicted using time of births

> that

> > > were sometimes off

> > > by minutes, sometimes days, sometimes even

> years.

> > >

> > > We can reach to right conclusion without using

> > > any "perfect "astrological tool is my experience

> > > after reading some

> > > thousands of charts.

> > >

> > > So what is the purpose of astrology if not

> > > prediction. I now

> > > understand that it can be used as a self

> development

> > > and aspiritual

> > > tool. But that too till an extent. After one

> crosses

> > > the river, the

> > > boat is no longer required. Similarly astrology

> can

> > > be used just like

> > > a boat.

> > >

> > >

> > > best wishes

> > > partha

> > >

> > > vedic astrology,

> > > "shivani_dass"

> > > <shivani_dass> wrote:

> > > > Respected Members,

> > > >

> > > > Generally once a horoscope is interpreted by

> an

> > > astrologer it is the

> > > > normal practise to go along with what has been

> > > said and try to

> > > > overcome those problems, but what happens if

> one

> > > astrologer says

> > > > something completely opposite of another

> > > astrolger? As astrological

> > > > advice can have a far-stretched affect on a

> > > persons life it is

> > > > necessary therefore to seek the advice of the

> > > consensus - a second

> > > or

> > > > third opinion even.

> > > >

> > > > My horoscope details when interpreted by

> > > astrologers in the past

> > > have

> > > > always indicated a problem with getting along

> with

> > > people in terms

> > > of

> > > > relationships and so-forth, and have also

> termed

>

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Jai Sai Ram

 

Dear shivani,

 

All humans are not alike.Even before we go to a doctor we enquire

about the doctor,his past performance,dependability etc.same we do

before we buy some material things for shopping.Similarly you need

to enquire about a astrologer also.You cant choose a learner or a

roadside astrologer.once you find the right astrologer you need to

have faith in him just like we show towards a doctor or a lawyer.If

you are not sure of your first choice then you can have a second

opinion that too from a better scholar then the one you choosed at

first.

 

Just think yourself once in an astrologer shoes.Its very difficult

job then a doctor,lawyer or any other because the astrologer can see

the future with some accuracy or blurred picture depending upon his

knowledge & experience which he has to convey you.And i am pretty

sure no astrologer will convey you about bad time(with exact event)

one is going to have in future but will give you a caution.There are

reasons for this.I can give you one example which i heard that God

had given power to astrologers that atleast 50% will come true of

the astrologers words.On the other side there is a curse of Parvathi

devi also, that no astrologer can tell 100% truth.

 

We you know everyone can't be master in any subject.Thats why

different readings exist due to perception or for any other reason.&

this is not only true for astrology but for any subject.

 

Astrology is God's gift and a devine power,One can find very few who

can be high in accuracy & still the astrolger wont/cant reveal

relating to any bad events but will just give a word of caution.

 

Regarding your horoscope i am a learner within my limited knowledge

i can say there are afflictions in first,seventh & second house

which signifies marriage and Kutumbha(family) affairs.Consult a good

astrologer and go for remedies.

 

Regards,

 

Sunil kumar Varanasi

 

 

vedic astrology, "shivani_dass"

<shivani_dass> wrote:

> Respected Members,

>

> Generally once a horoscope is interpreted by an astrologer it is

the

> normal practise to go along with what has been said and try to

> overcome those problems, but what happens if one astrologer says

> something completely opposite of another astrolger? As astrological

> advice can have a far-stretched affect on a persons life it is

> necessary therefore to seek the advice of the consensus - a second

or

> third opinion even.

>

> My horoscope details when interpreted by astrologers in the past

have

> always indicated a problem with getting along with people in terms

of

> relationships and so-forth, and have also termed me manglik,

however

> i have always felt that im actually a very kind hearted and nice

> person to get along with then why do i always feel as if i cannot

> relate to everyone properly, or shy away from certain social

> situations. Astrologers have pedicted that because of my rahu-ketu

on

> the first-seventh house axis coupled with mars in the first house

> would cause me a divorce. But i also have jupiter in lagna WITH the

> Mangal and Rahu, so would that not be a positive affect on my

> marriage?

>

>

> Till now i have always accepted the fact that i will have marital

> problems once i get married (as i am still single)and learned to

cope

> with the fact that marriage will not be heaven for me. However,

> recently one astrolger said that i will have a happy marriage and

> will not have anything like a divorce etc and it was said that all

> other astrolgers have been incorrect in advising me so.

>

> I respect all astrolgers advices, and understand that everyone will

> have a different interpretation of events, However astrology cannot

> be so far different that two people give such opposite views...or

can

> it?

>

> So i therefore ask the opinion of everyone in this group to give me

> the views of their interpretations and how such conclusions have

been

> reached.

>

> I am a Leo Ascendant, with Mars/Rahu/Jupiter in lagna,

> Mercury/Ketu in 7th house.

>

> My details are:

> Date of Birth: 05 February 1980

> Time of Birth: 07:10 PM

> place: London, UK

>

> It will be interestin to know how astrologers can caste their views

> on the different aspects in this chart! Many thanks- look forward

to

> the conclusion.

>

> Warm Regards,

> Shivani

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Dear Gaurav

 

Sorry, i missed your mail.

 

The point is that intellect is lower than intuition, and words,

vocabulary will not be sufficient to explain exactly about intuition.

I have posted this on three forums, and in forum a gentleman says

that he has zero intuition.

This is not accurate, as everyone of us has intuition. The closest

explanation of what intuition is can be summed from the following

 

"Intuition is a reflection of what IS, " It doesnot distort, it

doesnot colour, it doesnot have prejudices. It doesnot lie, because

it is simply a reflection.

 

So, whenever a person comes to you with his chart, you might "think"

that you are using the "chart" for a reading. The knowledge available

from the shastras gives you a trigger, and you give some sort of

prediction.

But what you and many predictors miss is the "back end process" which

is going on without your knowledge. Everyone generally thinks that

prediction has come correct due to some technique, some knowledge.

But in the back end, your third eye gets the reflection of the unseen

event.Nobody is aware of the back end program that is running, which

is nothing but coming to the direct conclusion without having to go

through itierative steps that "knowledge" normally goes through.

 

But explaining all this is not easy, as to understand this one needs

to have the awareness of third eye, awareness of the person, event

etc.

 

I have realised all of this quite late, but atleast i have realised

it. There is no need for me to learn any more of the theory, because

i realised that i or for that matter any predictor with successful

predictions history never used knowledge to make prediction.

Knowledge only "triggered" the intuitive processes which made them

mistake the knowledge as the reason for right prediction.

 

Best wishes

partha

 

vedic astrology, yobrevol@a... wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna |

>

> Namaste Partha Ji and all,

>

> I agree with your statements. Knowledge is supreme, however

everyone merely

> has "there understanding of the knowledge". Intuition, as Partha Ji

you

> point out, is largely a product without logic, but generally works

like a

> bulls'eye, if followed with purity.

>

> Symmetry between mind and heart is Harmony.

>

> Namaste;

> Gaurav

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In a message dated 8/27/2005 4:22:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, partvinu writes:

"Intuition is a reflection of what IS, " It doesnot distort, it doesnot colour,

it doesnot have prejudices. It doesnot lie, because it is simply a reflection.

 

So beautifully put. Good or Bad intuition is an outcome of the reflection.

Intuition is just "is". Then does knowledge/experiences come in to, in-effect

change the quality of what "is", which later becomes intuition....?

 

Namaste;

 

Gaurav