(Multiple replies) RE: New method for understanding finances - Raman Hora - Brilliant

[Guest guest]

font-family:Arial">Dear friends,

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I am glad that my paper has created considerable interest. The

very fact that there was more than 200 downloads within 24 hrs has given me

considerable satisfaction. Below is my reply to all emails. I use Raman

Ayanamsa and there could be some differences in the co-ordinates to that when

calculated using Lahiri Ayanamsa. Further, the Ayanamsa I use takes the year of

coincidence as 397 (Raman value) but calculations are done with slightly

different figures. The value I use deviates by about 6-8 minutes from the value

calculated by Jagannatha Hora.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Dear Mr. Rath,

font-family:Arial">

The first person

to give this out in public was Narasimha Rao and you have done an excellent

paper on it as well. However there is some discrepancy in the table given by

you.

For example, in

tha table you have given for Aries the first hora which is surya hora is ruled

by Mars-Scorpio (correct as it is day sign) but then you show Capricorn as the

night sign. Kindly clarify.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">The variation that I have given differs from other variations

of the Hora chart found in Jagannatha Hora Software. I think Narasimha Rao

presented a version known as Kashinatha Hora which is found in Jagannatha Hora

Software which is quite different to what I have presented.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">The idea behind the chart is as follows:

1) Divide the

signs into Day strong Signs and Night strong Signs

2) The first

half of an odd sign is ruled by the lord of that sign and the planets go to the

Day sign of this planet

3) The second

half of an odd sign is ruled by the lord of the 11th from that sign

and the planet belongs to the Night sign of this planet

4) In an even

sign, the first half is ruled by the lord of that sign and the planet belongs

to the Night sign of this planet

5) The second

half on the even sign is ruled by the lord of 11th from that sign

and belongs to the Day sign of this planet

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">There is one exception here. For Sun and Moon, there are no separate

day and night signs. For Moon, both day and night signs are Cancer and for Sun,

both day and night signs are Leo.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial"> -------------------

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Dear Mr. Pradeep,

font-family:Arial">

In your paper ,i

could find a statement from Brihat jataka.Hora is

one half of

Lagna.I would be pleased to know your understanding on

the same.After

that i may share my understanding

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">The second divisional chart is constructed by taking a bhava

into 15 degrees. So hora is 15 degrees each of a Sign.

font-family:Arial">

Is the chart of

Aishwarya from reliable sources.

If yes,then strong

neechbhanga yogas are present in the chart(not

vargas, as i do

not understand bhavas there).Neechabhangas in full

can give chakravarti/vartini

yogas.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">This is the chart I have in my database. The chart was given

to me by a close friend. Details are as follows:

font-family:Arial">Nov 1, 1973, 4:05 am at Mangalore.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial"> ------------------

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Dear Mr. Dutt,

font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">

Hence, am curious

to learn more about the Capricorn/Pisces etc differential positioning of

planets falling in the 15-30 degree ambit. Could you kindly identify the

relevant portion/sloka in Brihat Jataka from whence this reference has been

gleaned. Besides the standard text, I still have a tattered old BJ (Bengali

version) with excellent annotations by a noted pundit. Would certainly wish to

check notations on this one - carefully.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I don’t have the text with me currently. You can find

the verse in the first chapter itself. The verse runs as “Kechittu horam

prathamaam bapsya….”

font-family:Arial">

Will definitely

test out this option in the SE Asian private banking community over the next

3-6 months and share the feedback.

Trust you can be

reached on the Seshadripuram telephone number. In early Sep, I will try to

set-up a mutually convenient fixed time call to clarify some of issues arising

from your paper.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I will be happy to receive your feedback. You can contact me

at our Seshadripuram office or call me on +91-80-56991845.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial"> ------------------

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Dear Mr. Gupta

font-family:Arial">

In the special

Hora chart of Dr.B.V.Raman (as per my

understanding of

the rule and thumb rules given by

you) the tenancy

of Raghu, Ketu and Guru seems to be

respectively at

Kumbha, Mithuna and Kanya; where as

you have found

them at Kumbha, Kataka and Mesha

respectively?

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Please go by the logic that I have given above. In Dr. Raman’s

chart, Rahu is 24 degrees Pisces which corresponds to 2nd half of

Pisces. This maps to Day sign of Saturn which is Aquarius. For Ketu, its

coordinates are 24 degrees Virgo which corresponds to 2nd half of

Virgo. This maps to Day sign of Moon which is Cancer itself. For Jupiter, its

coordinates are 14 degrees Scorpio which corresponds to first half of Scorpio. This

maps to Night sign of Mars which is Aries.

font-family:Arial">

In the special

Hora chart exhibit marked by you for

Dr.N.T.RamaRao, I

could see Mars in the 2nd house, Sun

in the 10th house,

Raghu in the 11th house and Saturn®

in the 12th house.

By the application of your thumb

rules(if taken it

for granted you were talking about

natural planetary

qualities only) 2nd house Mars and

11th house Raghu

indicates to me ‘bad income Leval’

and

‘increased savings’.12th house Saturn® indicates

‘increased

expenses’ disproportionate to his gross and

net worth ,made

him a penniless during the fag end of

his life. Please

advice as to whether my analytical

understanding is

correct or otherwise?

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I consider influence of Mercury as 2nd lord to

overpower all other effects. Hence, higher financial level. However, as

indicated by you, the Saturn in the 12th house did give him

financial trouble. At the time of his death he was running Venus Dasa –

Saturn Bhukti as per Vimshottari Dasa. Your understanding with regard to Saturn

in the 12th house is correct.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial"> ------------------

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Dear Narasimha Rao,

font-family:Arial">

I went thru the

table given by you and I think I found one error.

The second half of

Sc is mapped to Li. Shouldn't it be Vi? Probably

it was a typo.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Actually there are three mistakes. The slide that I

presented at the Jayanthi had correct values and those who copied it directly

from my slide have the correct values. I can send you the revised table. There

are some more points which I did not include in the paper but did talk about

them in the lecture. The final edited copy of my speech should be available by

the end of the week. There are also plans to upload the speech of revered

father. I had promised a few of my esteemed friends that my speech would be made

available immediately after the Raman Jayanthi and hence had to upload the rough

draft.

font-family:Arial">

I will be very

much interested in

knowing the rationale behind your mapping.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I will definitely write about this sometime later. I tried

to understand the texts and their meaning and mapped them accordingly.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial"> ------------------

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Dear Mr. Vijay,

font-family:Arial">

Thank you very

much for this lesson on the hora chart. I would like

to duplicate some

of your charts - is it possible to provide DOB and

place for all the

charts you used in this primer. Also what ayanamsha

do you use?

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I have provided the Birth data of Aishwarya Rai. Dr. Raman’s

birth details are August 8, 1912, Bangalore.

For the current chart I have used the rectified time (19.43 hrs). The birth

details of the rest cannot be provided due to obvious reasons. I use Raman

Ayanamsa. More details can be found at the top of this email.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial"> ---------------

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Dear Narasimha Rao,

font-family:Arial">

I get Ketu in

neither sign. I get Ketu in Le and Rahu in Aq. Please confirm if you made a

mistake. In fact, the rasi chart you gave shows Ketu in Virgo. The two halves

of Vi are mapped to Ge and Le as per your table. I wonder how Ketu can be in Aq

or Cn. Obviously, there is a typo. If you used a software, it may have an error.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">As indicated earlier, the one uploaded is the rough draft. I

can upload my slides which carry the correct data. Ketu maps to Cancer and Rahu

maps to Aquarius. In the ascendant, Ketu has been mentioned instead of Rahu.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Warm regards,

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Raman Suprajarama

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">

Raman

Suprajarama [cru115 (AT) niranjanbabu (DOT) com]

Tuesday, August 16, 2005

1:30 AM

vedic astrology

Cc:

New method for

understanding finances

font-family:Arial">Dear Friends,

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I spoke on “Assessing

finances through Hora chart” on August 15, 2005 when Raman

Jayanthi was observed. This is a new method of casting the Hora chart. The same

has been uploaded at our website (http://www.niranjanbabu.com).

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I request the esteemed readers to kindly send their

observations.

font-family:Arial">

Om Tat Sat,

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Raman Suprajarama

[Guest guest]

font-family:Arial">Dear friends,

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">The correct mapping for the special hora chart is as

follows:

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Rasi

Position

<15

degrees

>= 15 degrees

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Aries

Scorpio Capricorn

font-family:Arial">Taurus

Taurus

Pisces

font-family:Arial">Gemini

Virgo Aries

font-family:Arial">Cancer

Cancer Libra

font-family:Arial">Leo

Leo Gemini

font-family:Arial">Virgo

Gemini Cancer

font-family:Arial">Libra

Libra

Leo

font-family:Arial">Scorpio

Aries Virgo

font-family:Arial">Sagittarius

Pisces Taurus

font-family:Arial">Capricorn

Capricorn

Scorpio

font-family:Arial">Aquarius

Aquarius

Sagittarius

font-family:Arial">Pisces

Sagittarius Aquarius

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Warm regards,

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Raman Suprajarama

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">

vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On

Behalf Of Raman Suprajarama

Wednesday, August 17, 2005

11:00 AM

To:

vedic astrology; ; 'Sohamsa'

Cc: guruji (AT) srath (DOT) com;

'vijayadas_pradeep'; 'Sathiyanarayana Gupta'; 'pvr108'; 'childofdevi'; 'Prashun

Dutt'

[vedic astrology]

(Multiple replies) RE: New method for understanding finances - Raman Hora -

Brilliant

12.0pt">

font-family:Arial">Dear friends,

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I am glad that my paper has created considerable interest.

The very fact that there was more than 200 downloads within 24 hrs has given me

considerable satisfaction. Below is my reply to all emails. I use Raman

Ayanamsa and there could be some differences in the co-ordinates to that when

calculated using Lahiri Ayanamsa. Further, the Ayanamsa I use takes the year of

coincidence as 397 (Raman value) but calculations are done with slightly

different figures. The value I use deviates by about 6-8 minutes from the value

calculated by Jagannatha Hora.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Dear Mr. Rath,

font-family:Arial">

The first person

to give this out in public was Narasimha Rao and you have done an excellent

paper on it as well. However there is some discrepancy in the table given by

you.

For example, in

tha table you have given for Aries the first hora which is surya hora is ruled

by Mars-Scorpio (correct as it is day sign) but then you show Capricorn as the

night sign. Kindly clarify.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">The variation that I have given differs from other

variations of the Hora chart found in Jagannatha Hora Software. I think

Narasimha Rao presented a version known as Kashinatha Hora which is found in

Jagannatha Hora Software which is quite different to what I have presented.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">The idea behind the chart is as follows:

1) Divide the

signs into Day strong Signs and Night strong Signs

2) The first

half of an odd sign is ruled by the lord of that sign and the planets go to the

Day sign of this planet

3) The second

half of an odd sign is ruled by the lord of the 11th from that sign and

the planet belongs to the Night sign of this planet

4) In an even

sign, the first half is ruled by the lord of that sign and the planet belongs

to the Night sign of this planet

5) The second

half on the even sign is ruled by the lord of 11th from that sign and

belongs to the Day sign of this planet

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">There is one exception here. For Sun and Moon, there are no

separate day and night signs. For Moon, both day and night signs are Cancer and

for Sun, both day and night signs are Leo.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">

-------------------

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Dear Mr. Pradeep,

font-family:Arial">

In your paper ,i

could find a statement from Brihat jataka.Hora is

one half of

Lagna.I would be pleased to know your understanding on

the same.After

that i may share my understanding

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">The second divisional chart is constructed by taking a bhava

into 15 degrees. So hora is 15 degrees each of a Sign.

font-family:Arial">

Is the chart of

Aishwarya from reliable sources.

If yes,then strong

neechbhanga yogas are present in the chart(not

vargas, as i do

not understand bhavas there).Neechabhangas in full

can give

chakravarti/vartini yogas.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">This is the chart I have in my database. The chart was given

to me by a close friend. Details are as follows:

font-family:Arial">Nov 1, 1973, 4:05 am at Mangalore.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">

------------------

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Dear Mr. Dutt,

font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">

Hence, am curious to

learn more about the Capricorn/Pisces etc differential positioning of planets

falling in the 15-30 degree ambit. Could you kindly identify the relevant

portion/sloka in Brihat Jataka from whence this reference has been gleaned.

Besides the standard text, I still have a tattered old BJ (Bengali version)

with excellent annotations by a noted pundit. Would certainly wish to check

notations on this one - carefully.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I don’t have the text with me currently. You can find

the verse in the first chapter itself. The verse runs as “Kechittu horam

prathamaam bapsya….”

font-family:Arial">

Will definitely

test out this option in the SE Asian private banking community over the next

3-6 months and share the feedback.

Trust you can be

reached on the Seshadripuram telephone number. In early Sep, I will try to

set-up a mutually convenient fixed time call to clarify some of issues arising

from your paper.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I will be happy to receive your feedback. You can contact me

at our Seshadripuram office or call me on +91-80-56991845.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">

------------------

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Dear Mr. Gupta

font-family:Arial">

In the special

Hora chart of Dr.B.V.Raman (as per my

understanding of

the rule and thumb rules given by

you) the tenancy

of Raghu, Ketu and Guru seems to be

respectively at

Kumbha, Mithuna and Kanya; where as

you have found them

at Kumbha, Kataka and Mesha

respectively?

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Please go by the logic that I have given above. In Dr.

Raman’s chart, Rahu is 24 degrees Pisces which corresponds to 2nd

half of Pisces. This maps to Day sign of Saturn which is Aquarius. For Ketu,

its coordinates are 24 degrees Virgo which corresponds to 2nd half

of Virgo. This maps to Day sign of Moon which is Cancer itself. For Jupiter,

its coordinates are 14 degrees Scorpio which corresponds to first half of

Scorpio. This maps to Night sign of Mars which is Aries.

font-family:Arial">

In the special

Hora chart exhibit marked by you for

Dr.N.T.RamaRao, I

could see Mars in the 2nd house, Sun

in the 10th house,

Raghu in the 11th house and Saturn®

in the 12th house.

By the application of your thumb

rules(if taken it for

granted you were talking about

natural planetary

qualities only) 2nd house Mars and

11th house Raghu

indicates to me ‘bad income Leval’

and

‘increased savings’.12th house Saturn® indicates

‘increased

expenses’ disproportionate to his gross and

net worth ,made

him a penniless during the fag end of

his life. Please

advice as to whether my analytical

understanding is

correct or otherwise?

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I consider influence of Mercury as 2nd lord to

overpower all other effects. Hence, higher financial level. However, as

indicated by you, the Saturn in the 12th house did give him

financial trouble. At the time of his death he was running Venus Dasa –

Saturn Bhukti as per Vimshottari Dasa. Your understanding with regard to Saturn

in the 12th house is correct.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">

------------------

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Dear Narasimha Rao,

font-family:Arial">

I went thru the

table given by you and I think I found one error.

The second half of

Sc is mapped to Li. Shouldn't it be Vi? Probably

it was a typo.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Actually there are three mistakes. The slide that I

presented at the Jayanthi had correct values and those who copied it directly

from my slide have the correct values. I can send you the revised table. There

are some more points which I did not include in the paper but did talk about

them in the lecture. The final edited copy of my speech should be available by

the end of the week. There are also plans to upload the speech of revered

father. I had promised a few of my esteemed friends that my speech would be

made available immediately after the Raman Jayanthi and hence had to upload the

rough draft.

font-family:Arial">

I will be very

much interested in

knowing the rationale behind your mapping.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I will definitely write about this sometime later. I tried

to understand the texts and their meaning and mapped them accordingly.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">

------------------

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Dear Mr. Vijay,

font-family:Arial">

Thank you very

much for this lesson on the hora chart. I would like

to duplicate some

of your charts - is it possible to provide DOB and

place for all the

charts you used in this primer. Also what ayanamsha

do you use?

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I have provided the Birth data of Aishwarya Rai. Dr.

Raman’s birth details are August 8, 1912, Bangalore. For the current chart I have used

the rectified time (19.43 hrs). The birth details of the rest cannot be

provided due to obvious reasons. I use Raman Ayanamsa. More details can be

found at the top of this email.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">

---------------

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Dear Narasimha Rao,

font-family:Arial">

I get Ketu in

neither sign. I get Ketu in Le and Rahu in Aq. Please confirm if you made a

mistake. In fact, the rasi chart you gave shows Ketu in Virgo. The two halves

of Vi are mapped to Ge and Le as per your table. I wonder how Ketu can be in Aq

or Cn. Obviously, there is a typo. If you used a software, it may have an error.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">As indicated earlier, the one uploaded is the rough draft. I

can upload my slides which carry the correct data. Ketu maps to Cancer and Rahu

maps to Aquarius. In the ascendant, Ketu has been mentioned instead of Rahu.

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Warm regards,

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Raman Suprajarama

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">

Raman

Suprajarama [cru115 (AT) niranjanbabu (DOT) com]

Tuesday, August 16, 2005

1:30 AM

vedic astrology

Cc:

New method for

understanding finances

font-family:Arial">Dear Friends,

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I spoke on “Assessing

finances through Hora chart” on August 15, 2005 when Raman

Jayanthi was observed. This is a new method of casting the Hora chart. The same

has been uploaded at our website (http://www.niranjanbabu.com).

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">I request the esteemed readers to kindly send their

observations.

font-family:Arial">

Om Tat Sat,

font-family:Arial">

font-family:Arial">Raman Suprajarama

12.0pt">

[Guest guest]

Chi.RamaSuprajarama,

Thank you very much for the advice. I am yet to

understand completely.

With regards,

D.SathiyanarayanaGupta.

 

 

 

 

--- Raman Suprajarama <cru115 wrote:

 

> Dear friends,

>

>

>

> The correct mapping for the special hora chart is as

> follows:

>

>

>

> Rasi Position <15 degrees

> >= 15 degrees

>

>

>

> Aries Scorpio

> Capricorn

>

> Taurus Taurus

> Pisces

>

> Gemini Virgo

> Aries

>

> Cancer Cancer

> Libra

>

> Leo Leo

> Gemini

>

> Virgo Gemini

> Cancer

>

> Libra Libra

> Leo

>

> Scorpio Aries

> Virgo

>

> Sagittarius Pisces

> Taurus

>

> Capricorn Capricorn

> Scorpio

>

> Aquarius Aquarius

> Sagittarius

>

> Pisces Sagittarius

> Aquarius

>

>

>

> Warm regards,

>

>

>

> Raman Suprajarama

>

>

>

> _____

>

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] On Behalf

> Of Raman Suprajarama

> Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:00 AM

> vedic astrology;

> ; 'Sohamsa'

> Cc: guruji; 'vijayadas_pradeep';

> 'Sathiyanarayana Gupta';

> 'pvr108'; 'childofdevi'; 'Prashun Dutt'

> [vedic astrology] (Multiple replies) RE:

> New method for

> understanding finances - Raman Hora - Brilliant

>

>

>

> Dear friends,

>

>

>

> I am glad that my paper has created considerable

> interest. The very fact

> that there was more than 200 downloads within 24 hrs

> has given me

> considerable satisfaction. Below is my reply to all

> emails. I use Raman

> Ayanamsa and there could be some differences in the

> co-ordinates to that

> when calculated using Lahiri Ayanamsa. Further, the

> Ayanamsa I use takes the

> year of coincidence as 397 (Raman value) but

> calculations are done with

> slightly different figures. The value I use deviates

> by about 6-8 minutes

> from the value calculated by Jagannatha Hora.

>

>

>

> Dear Mr. Rath,

>

>

>

> The first person to give this out in public was

> Narasimha Rao and you have

> done an excellent paper on it as well. However there

> is some discrepancy in

> the table given by you.

>

> For example, in tha table you have given for Aries

> the first hora which is

> surya hora is ruled by Mars-Scorpio (correct as it

> is day sign) but then you

> show Capricorn as the night sign. Kindly clarify.

>

>

>

> The variation that I have given differs from other

> variations of the Hora

> chart found in Jagannatha Hora Software. I think

> Narasimha Rao presented a

> version known as Kashinatha Hora which is found in

> Jagannatha Hora Software

> which is quite different to what I have presented.

>

>

>

> The idea behind the chart is as follows:

>

> 1) Divide the signs into Day strong Signs and

> Night strong Signs

>

> 2) The first half of an odd sign is ruled by

> the lord of that sign and

> the planets go to the Day sign of this planet

>

> 3) The second half of an odd sign is ruled by

> the lord of the 11th

> from that sign and the planet belongs to the Night

> sign of this planet

>

> 4) In an even sign, the first half is ruled by

> the lord of that sign

> and the planet belongs to the Night sign of this

> planet

>

> 5) The second half on the even sign is ruled

> by the lord of 11th from

> that sign and belongs to the Day sign of this planet

>

>

>

> There is one exception here. For Sun and Moon, there

> are no separate day and

> night signs. For Moon, both day and night signs are

> Cancer and for Sun, both

> day and night signs are Leo.

>

>

>

> -------------------

>

>

>

> Dear Mr. Pradeep,

>

>

>

> In your paper ,i could find a statement from Brihat

> jataka.Hora is

>

> one half of Lagna.I would be pleased to know your

> understanding on

>

> the same.After that i may share my understanding

>

>

>

> The second divisional chart is constructed by taking

> a bhava into 15

> degrees. So hora is 15 degrees each of a Sign.

>

>

>

> Is the chart of Aishwarya from reliable sources.

>

> If yes,then strong neechbhanga yogas are present in

> the chart(not

>

> vargas, as i do not understand bhavas

> there).Neechabhangas in full

>

> can give chakravarti/vartini yogas.

>

>

>

> This is the chart I have in my database. The chart

> was given to me by a

> close friend. Details are as follows:

>

> Nov 1, 1973, 4:05 am at Mangalore.

>

=== message truncated ===

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Om Krishna Guru

 

Namaste Raman Ji,

 

I have read your paper and it was very good, I am wondering

if we can get the audio of yorr presentation as well, either

free or for some price. Please let us know.

 

Regards

Raghunatha Rao

 

vedic astrology, "Raman Suprajarama"

<cru115@n...> wrote:

> Dear friends,

>

>

>

> The correct mapping for the special hora chart is as follows:

>

>

>

> Rasi Position <15 degrees >= 15

degrees

>

>

>

> Aries Scorpio

Capricorn

>

> Taurus Taurus

Pisces

>

> Gemini Virgo

Aries

>

> Cancer Cancer Libra

>

> Leo Leo

Gemini

>

> Virgo Gemini

Cancer

>

> Libra Libra

Leo

>

> Scorpio Aries

Virgo

>

> Sagittarius Pisces

Taurus

>

> Capricorn Capricorn

Scorpio

>

> Aquarius Aquarius

Sagittarius

>

> Pisces Sagittarius

Aquarius

>

>

>

> Warm regards,

>

>

>

> Raman Suprajarama

>

>

>

> _____

>

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Raman

Suprajarama

> Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:00 AM

> vedic astrology;

; 'Sohamsa'

> Cc: guruji@s...; 'vijayadas_pradeep'; 'Sathiyanarayana Gupta';

> 'pvr108'; 'childofdevi'; 'Prashun Dutt'

> [vedic astrology] (Multiple replies) RE: New method for

> understanding finances - Raman Hora - Brilliant

>

>

>

> Dear friends,

>

>

>

> I am glad that my paper has created considerable interest. The very

fact

> that there was more than 200 downloads within 24 hrs has given me

> considerable satisfaction. Below is my reply to all emails. I use

Raman

> Ayanamsa and there could be some differences in the co-ordinates to

that

> when calculated using Lahiri Ayanamsa. Further, the Ayanamsa I use

takes the

> year of coincidence as 397 (Raman value) but calculations are done

with

> slightly different figures. The value I use deviates by about 6-8

minutes

> from the value calculated by Jagannatha Hora.

>

>

>

> Dear Mr. Rath,

>

>

>

> The first person to give this out in public was Narasimha Rao and

you have

> done an excellent paper on it as well. However there is some

discrepancy in

> the table given by you.

>

> For example, in tha table you have given for Aries the first hora

which is

> surya hora is ruled by Mars-Scorpio (correct as it is day sign) but

then you

> show Capricorn as the night sign. Kindly clarify.

>

>

>

> The variation that I have given differs from other variations of

the Hora

> chart found in Jagannatha Hora Software. I think Narasimha Rao

presented a

> version known as Kashinatha Hora which is found in Jagannatha Hora

Software

> which is quite different to what I have presented.

>

>

>

> The idea behind the chart is as follows:

>

> 1) Divide the signs into Day strong Signs and Night strong

Signs

>

> 2) The first half of an odd sign is ruled by the lord of that

sign and

> the planets go to the Day sign of this planet

>

> 3) The second half of an odd sign is ruled by the lord of the

11th

> from that sign and the planet belongs to the Night sign of this

planet

>

> 4) In an even sign, the first half is ruled by the lord of

that sign

> and the planet belongs to the Night sign of this planet

>

> 5) The second half on the even sign is ruled by the lord of

11th from

> that sign and belongs to the Day sign of this planet

>

>

>

> There is one exception here. For Sun and Moon, there are no

separate day and

> night signs. For Moon, both day and night signs are Cancer and for

Sun, both

> day and night signs are Leo.

>

>

>

> -------------------

>

>

>

> Dear Mr. Pradeep,

>

>

>

> In your paper ,i could find a statement from Brihat jataka.Hora is

>

> one half of Lagna.I would be pleased to know your understanding on

>

> the same.After that i may share my understanding

>

>

>

> The second divisional chart is constructed by taking a bhava into 15

> degrees. So hora is 15 degrees each of a Sign.

>

>

>

> Is the chart of Aishwarya from reliable sources.

>

> If yes,then strong neechbhanga yogas are present in the chart(not

>

> vargas, as i do not understand bhavas there).Neechabhangas in full

>

> can give chakravarti/vartini yogas.

>

>

>

> This is the chart I have in my database. The chart was given to me

by a

> close friend. Details are as follows:

>

> Nov 1, 1973, 4:05 am at Mangalore.

>

>

>

> ------------------

>

>

>

> Dear Mr. Dutt,

>

>

>

> Hence, am curious to learn more about the Capricorn/Pisces etc

differential

> positioning of planets falling in the 15-30 degree ambit. Could you

kindly

> identify the relevant portion/sloka in Brihat Jataka from whence

this

> reference has been gleaned. Besides the standard text, I still have

a

> tattered old BJ (Bengali version) with excellent annotations by a

noted

> pundit. Would certainly wish to check notations on this one -

carefully.

>

>

>

> I don't have the text with me currently. You can find the verse in

the first

> chapter itself. The verse runs as "Kechittu horam prathamaam

bapsya.."

>

>

>

> Will definitely test out this option in the SE Asian private banking

> community over the next 3-6 months and share the feedback.

>

> Trust you can be reached on the Seshadripuram telephone number. In

early

> Sep, I will try to set-up a mutually convenient fixed time call to

clarify

> some of issues arising from your paper.

>

>

>

> I will be happy to receive your feedback. You can contact me at our

> Seshadripuram office or call me on +91-80-56991845.

>

>

>

> ------------------

>

>

>

> Dear Mr. Gupta

>

>

>

> In the special Hora chart of Dr.B.V.Raman (as per my

>

> understanding of the rule and thumb rules given by

>

> you) the tenancy of Raghu, Ketu and Guru seems to be

>

> respectively at Kumbha, Mithuna and Kanya; where as

>

> you have found them at Kumbha, Kataka and Mesha

>

> respectively?

>

>

>

> Please go by the logic that I have given above. In Dr. Raman's

chart, Rahu

> is 24 degrees Pisces which corresponds to 2nd half of Pisces. This

maps to

> Day sign of Saturn which is Aquarius. For Ketu, its coordinates are

24

> degrees Virgo which corresponds to 2nd half of Virgo. This maps to

Day sign

> of Moon which is Cancer itself. For Jupiter, its coordinates are 14

degrees

> Scorpio which corresponds to first half of Scorpio. This maps to

Night sign

> of Mars which is Aries.

>

>

>

> In the special Hora chart exhibit marked by you for

>

> Dr.N.T.RamaRao, I could see Mars in the 2nd house, Sun

>

> in the 10th house, Raghu in the 11th house and SaturnR

>

> in the 12th house. By the application of your thumb

>

> rules(if taken it for granted you were talking about

>

> natural planetary qualities only) 2nd house Mars and

>

> 11th house Raghu indicates to me 'bad income Leval'

>

> and 'increased savings'.12th house SaturnR indicates

>

> 'increased expenses' disproportionate to his gross and

>

> net worth ,made him a penniless during the fag end of

>

> his life. Please advice as to whether my analytical

>

> understanding is correct or otherwise?

>

>

>

> I consider influence of Mercury as 2nd lord to overpower all other

effects.

> Hence, higher financial level. However, as indicated by you, the

Saturn in

> the 12th house did give him financial trouble. At the time of his

death he

> was running Venus Dasa - Saturn Bhukti as per Vimshottari Dasa. Your

> understanding with regard to Saturn in the 12th house is correct.

>

>

>

> ------------------

>

>

>

> Dear Narasimha Rao,

>

>

>

> I went thru the table given by you and I think I found one error.

>

> The second half of Sc is mapped to Li. Shouldn't it be Vi? Probably

>

> it was a typo.

>

>

>

> Actually there are three mistakes. The slide that I presented at the

> Jayanthi had correct values and those who copied it directly from

my slide

> have the correct values. I can send you the revised table. There

are some

> more points which I did not include in the paper but did talk about

them in

> the lecture. The final edited copy of my speech should be available

by the

> end of the week. There are also plans to upload the speech of

revered

> father. I had promised a few of my esteemed friends that my speech

would be

> made available immediately after the Raman Jayanthi and hence had

to upload

> the rough draft.

>

>

>

> I will be very

>

> much interested in knowing the rationale behind your mapping.

>

>

>

> I will definitely write about this sometime later. I tried to

understand the

> texts and their meaning and mapped them accordingly.

>

>

>

> ------------------

>

>

>

> Dear Mr. Vijay,

>

>

>

> Thank you very much for this lesson on the hora chart. I would like

>

> to duplicate some of your charts - is it possible to provide DOB

and

>

> place for all the charts you used in this primer. Also what

ayanamsha

>

> do you use?

>

>

>

> I have provided the Birth data of Aishwarya Rai. Dr. Raman's birth

details

> are August 8, 1912, Bangalore. For the current chart I have used the

> rectified time (19.43 hrs). The birth details of the rest cannot be

provided

> due to obvious reasons. I use Raman Ayanamsa. More details can be

found at

> the top of this email.

>

>

>

> ---------------

>

>

>

> Dear Narasimha Rao,

>

>

>

> I get Ketu in neither sign. I get Ketu in Le and Rahu in Aq. Please

confirm

> if you made a mistake. In fact, the rasi chart you gave shows Ketu

in Virgo.

> The two halves of Vi are mapped to Ge and Le as per your table. I

wonder how

> Ketu can be in Aq or Cn. Obviously, there is a typo. If you used a

software,

> it may have an error.

>

>

>

> As indicated earlier, the one uploaded is the rough draft. I can

upload my

> slides which carry the correct data. Ketu maps to Cancer and Rahu

maps to

> Aquarius. In the ascendant, Ketu has been mentioned instead of Rahu.

>

>

>

> Warm regards,

>

>

>

> Raman Suprajarama

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

> Raman Suprajarama [cru115@n...]

> Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:30 AM

> vedic astrology

> Cc:

> New method for understanding finances

>

> Dear Friends,

>

>

>

> I spoke on "Assessing finances through Hora chart" on August 15,

2005 when

> Raman Jayanthi was observed. This is a new method of casting the

Hora chart.

> The same has been uploaded at our website

(http://www.niranjanbabu.com

> <http://www.niranjanbabu.com/> ).

>

>

>

> I request the esteemed readers to kindly send their observations.

>

>

>

> Om Tat Sat,

>

>

>

> Raman Suprajarama

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

 

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

>

>

> * Visit your group "vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology> " on the web.

>

> *

> vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology?

subject=Un>

>

> *

> <> Terms of Service.

>

>

>

> _____