Guest guest Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 Dear Bharat I need your and your wife's data for more thorough analysis. But let me give you some idea as to how to analyze this (frame work given in KN Rao book, Astrology and Karma). I will also give some possible dates and times. One needs to check rasi, navamsha and dwadamsha for sure to arrive at a time of birth (operation) Make sure 6 and 9 lords are placed well in child/new born (or rather the C section delivery time). Sixth is father's profession and 9th is luck. If you take Cancer or Capricorn lagna the owner is same. Cancer lagna is too early (5:30 am) and hence I avoided. Take Capricorn lagna in the evening around 18:30 hrs. Navamsa should have strength, D12 should show a benefic in 2nd house (parents family) should be well fortified. Hints: Take 9th, 6th lords vargotamma or its nakshatra lord vargottama or exalted in navamsha. Once you narrow down the lagna, make sure d9 has some strength. Rasi should have some benefics in quadrants. What ever you do, eventually the starting dasa of new baby will show the operation to mother. So see 4th house and 4th lord and also moon (at least avoid complications). And so on.. Aug 18, 2005 (around 18:30 hrs, Delhi). Capricorn lagna. Navamsa has strength. 1.Sukla chaturdasi moon in lagna. Moon in own star sravana and is exalted in navamsha. Five planets are exalted in D9 2.Two benefics in quadrants. Good exchange of first and seventh lords. 3.Jupiter is in moon's star and is exalted in navamsha 4.mercury is in saturn's nakshatra and Saturn is well placed and exalted in d9. Starting dasa is that of moon. It is possible this kid will end up in a foreign country when rahu dasa starts. Sports will be another area that kid could do well. Make sure you have a benefic in D12 second house. I have not looked beyond this. I think the frame work should be good for you to work on. Please send your and wife's details to nakshatras. Finally this time of suggestion is just a suggestion. Take it with a pinch of salt. Ultimately god will make it happen the way it is supposed. Prayer to Vinayaka is best. Note: other lagna, dates are possible, I have not checked due to lack of time. All the analysis was done without your chart so it is not complete. I have given the frame work for benefit of others also. Manjunath Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Saw your suggestion. I have two questions - 1. Can Vinayaka decide birth time on a prayer? Can we simplify the karmic factors so much? 2. What about the "Kleeba yoga" - yoga for the birth of a eunuch present in the time you have given? "Sani and Budha in the 7th from Lagna and Moon and Sani is Lagna lord and joins Budha". Also note that the planets are mostly in even and dual sign. chandrasekhar "M. Sharma" <chitra2pada > wrote: Dear BharatI need your and your wife's data for more thorough analysis. But let me give you some idea as to how to analyze this (frame work given in KN Rao book, Astrology and Karma). I will also give some possible dates and times. One needs to check rasi, navamsha and dwadamsha for sure to arrive at a time of birth (operation)Make sure 6 and 9 lords are placed well in child/new born (or rather the C section delivery time). Sixth is father's profession and 9th is luck. If you take Cancer or Capricorn lagna the owner is same. Cancer lagna is too early (5:30 am) and hence I avoided. Take Capricorn lagna in the evening around 18:30 hrs.Navamsa should have strength, D12 should show a benefic in 2nd house (parents family) should be well fortified. Hints: Take 9th, 6th lords vargotamma or its nakshatra lord vargottama or exalted in navamsha. Once you narrow down the lagna, make sure d9 has some strength. Rasi should have some benefics in quadrants. What ever you do, eventually the starting dasa of new baby will show the operation to mother. So see 4th house and 4th lord and also moon (at least avoid complications). And so on..Aug 18, 2005 (around 18:30 hrs, Delhi). Capricorn lagna. Navamsa has strength.1.Sukla chaturdasi moon in lagna. Moon in own star sravana and is exalted in navamsha. Five planets are exalted in D92.Two benefics in quadrants. Good exchange of first and seventh lords.3.Jupiter is in moon's star and is exalted in navamsha4.mercury is in saturn's nakshatra and Saturn is well placed and exalted in d9.Starting dasa is that of moon. It is possible this kid will end up in a foreign country when rahu dasa starts. Sports will be another area that kid could do well. Make sure you have a benefic in D12 second house.I have not looked beyond this. I think the frame work should be good for you to work on.Please send your and wife's details to nakshatras .Finally this time of suggestion is just a suggestion. Take it with a pinch of salt. Ultimately god will make it happen the way it is supposed. Prayer to Vinayaka is best. Note: other lagna, dates are possible, I have not checked due to lack of time. All the analysis was done without your chart so it is not complete. I have given the frame work for benefit of others also.Manjunath SharmaDo You ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Dear Chandrasekar Sir Please send email to Bharat-ji giving your analysis or alerting him. I am not an expert, I am an ordinary student. It was meant to give an idea. And since he is Delhi he can always call up or visit KNRao (I don't know if Mr Rao is still doing astrology) Please see my comments also.... >>Saw your suggestion. I have two questions - >> Can Vinayaka decide birth time on a prayer? Of course not. I meant as a general prayer to remove any obstacles during C-section operation... >>Can we simplify the karmic factors so much? Certainly not. Point well taken. But there is never a "great" muhurta, one can always find some short comings in a given chart. Main factors are child and mother's well being. Strong luck factor and child's birth can help father. 2. What about the "Kleeba yoga" - yoga for the birth of a eunuch present in the time you have given? "Sani and Budha in the 7th from Lagna and Moon and Sani is Lagna lord and joins Budha". Also note that the planets are mostly in even and dual sign. Good observation. In the time frame he has given, It looks like, only fast moving planets (moon) and lagna can get into fixed sign. Jupiter, Ketu, Venus, Sani, Mercury,Mars, Rahu - are in Dual or even sign. Only sun is in fixed sign. So there is not much one can do.. I have looked at Aug 17 and 18 only. One needs to know so many things to decide what is a correct time for c-section operation. These are still unaswered questions. 1. Birth data of Bharat and his wife. 2. Doctor's availability for operation 3. What if there are delays, will Bharat has to wait for suitable lagna to arrive and wait another two hours in the operation room? 3. Promise of bright sibling in his daughter's horoscope Like I said before, the picking a birth time will alter the destiny marginally only. The promise of a bright child has to be there in the birth horoscope of parents -absolutely .. Manjunath sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 First ascertain whether KLEEBA YOGA is there in your chart .Make no mistakes. It is there in your chart S Murughan Chandra Sekhar <chandra_sekhar1970 > wrote: Dear Sharmaji Saw your suggestion. I have two questions - 1. Can Vinayaka decide birth time on a prayer? Can we simplify the karmic factors so much? 2. What about the "Kleeba yoga" - yoga for the birth of a eunuch present in the time you have given? "Sani and Budha in the 7th from Lagna and Moon and Sani is Lagna lord and joins Budha". Also note that the planets are mostly in even and dual sign. chandrasekhar "M. Sharma" <chitra2pada > wrote: Dear BharatI need your and your wife's data for more thorough analysis. But let me give you some idea as to how to analyze this (frame work given in KN Rao book, Astrology and Karma). I will also give some possible dates and times. One needs to check rasi, navamsha and dwadamsha for sure to arrive at a time of birth (operation)Make sure 6 and 9 lords are placed well in child/new born (or rather the C section delivery time). Sixth is father's profession and 9th is luck. If you take Cancer or Capricorn lagna the owner is same. Cancer lagna is too early (5:30 am) and hence I avoided. Take Capricorn lagna in the evening around 18:30 hrs.Navamsa should have strength, D12 should show a benefic in 2nd house (parents family) should be well fortified. Hints: Take 9th, 6th lords vargotamma or its nakshatra lord vargottama or exalted in navamsha. Once you narrow down the lagna, make sure d9 has some strength. Rasi should have some benefics in quadrants. What ever you do, eventually the starting dasa of new baby will show the operation to mother. So see 4th house and 4th lord and also moon (at least avoid complications). And so on..Aug 18, 2005 (around 18:30 hrs, Delhi). Capricorn lagna. Navamsa has strength.1.Sukla chaturdasi moon in lagna. Moon in own star sravana and is exalted in navamsha. Five planets are exalted in D92.Two benefics in quadrants. Good exchange of first and seventh lords.3.Jupiter is in moon's star and is exalted in navamsha4.mercury is in saturn's nakshatra and Saturn is well placed and exalted in d9.Starting dasa is that of moon. It is possible this kid will end up in a foreign country when rahu dasa starts. Sports will be another area that kid could do well. Make sure you have a benefic in D12 second house.I have not looked beyond this. I think the frame work should be good for you to work on.Please send your and wife's details to nakshatras .Finally this time of suggestion is just a suggestion. Take it with a pinch of salt. Ultimately god will make it happen the way it is supposed. Prayer to Vinayaka is best. Note: other lagna, dates are possible, I have not checked due to lack of time. All the analysis was done without your chart so it is not complete. I have given the frame work for benefit of others also.Manjunath Sharma Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Namaskaar Sri Chandrasekhar and Sri Manjunath Will the Kleeba yoga function even when a strong Mars is aspecting both Saturn and Mercury? I agree that the time given by Sri Manjunath wouldn't be appropriate as Saturn and Mercury would be in the 7th house. > These are still unaswered questions. > 1. Birth data of Bharat and his wife. > 2. Doctor's availability for operation > 3. What if there are delays, will Bharat has to wait for suitable > lagna to arrive and wait another two hours in the operation room? > 3. Promise of bright sibling in his daughter's horoscope 1. I have emailed the birth data. 2. I will be meeting the Doctor on the 17th to check whether or not natural birth is possible without complications.Secondly, it is a hospital and at any given time one doctor or the other is available for surgery of this kind. 3. Action is in our hand, Result in Lord's. Without the Lord's permission no delay is possible so if it does get delayed, the result will be accepted and welcomed. 4. The birth details of my daughter have been emailed. I thank you both for taking your precious time out for this purpose. Thanks and Regards Bharat vedic astrology, "M. Sharma" <nakshatras@g...> wrote: > Dear Chandrasekar Sir > > Please send email to Bharat-ji giving your analysis or alerting him. > I am not an expert, I am an ordinary student. It was meant to give > an idea. And since he is Delhi he can always call up or visit KNRao > (I don't know if Mr Rao is still doing astrology) > > Please see my comments also.... > > >>Saw your suggestion. I have two questions - > >> Can Vinayaka decide birth time on a prayer? > > Of course not. I meant as a general prayer to remove any obstacles > during C-section operation... > > >>Can we simplify the karmic factors so much? > > Certainly not. Point well taken. But there is never a "great" > muhurta, one can always find some short comings in a given chart. > Main factors are child and mother's well being. Strong luck factor > and child's birth can help father. > > 2. What about the "Kleeba yoga" - yoga for the birth of a eunuch > present in the time you have given? "Sani and Budha in the 7th from > Lagna and Moon and Sani is Lagna lord and joins Budha". Also note > that the planets are mostly in even and dual sign. > > Good observation. In the time frame he has given, It looks like, > only fast moving planets (moon) and lagna can get into fixed sign. > Jupiter, Ketu, Venus, Sani, Mercury,Mars, Rahu - are in Dual or even > sign. Only sun is in fixed sign. So there is not much one can do.. > > I have looked at Aug 17 and 18 only. One needs to know so many > things to decide what is a correct time for c-section operation. > These are still unaswered questions. > 1. Birth data of Bharat and his wife. > 2. Doctor's availability for operation > 3. What if there are delays, will Bharat has to wait for suitable > lagna to arrive and wait another two hours in the operation room? > 3. Promise of bright sibling in his daughter's horoscope > > > Like I said before, the picking a birth time will alter the destiny > marginally only. The promise of a bright child has to be there in > the birth horoscope of parents -absolutely .. > > Manjunath sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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