Namasthe Anil Ji

[Guest guest]

Namasthe Anil'Ji,

I dont know you and your age also.But i like to tell you its bad to indulge in

the matters which are concerned to Guru Ji's or Senior astrologers.You cant

advice senior Guru'Ji like Shri.Ramdas rao'Ji or other Guru Ji's who are elder

to you both in knowledge and age,the purpose of being in list for you/me/us is

learning from them.

Regarding your option of moving out of group is purely your personal affair and

you cant keep it as a issue in the list.Stick to your learning and be patient

to check the mails or topics concerning to your learning and participation in

the group.

There are lot of people who are elders & seniors then us but still never put

mail unless their requirement or name comes.No one had asked you to give your

comments.

If you are a Guru/senior astrologer or elder to me,Please forgive me.

Thanks & Regards,

Sunil Kumar Varanasi

 

Anil VSNL <gogatea (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear All,

 

Once again same old problem . Please do not use the forum for this kind of

communications. Shri Ramdas Rao ji could have easily opted for personal

communication channels. You people are knowledgeable and intelligent but very

egoistic and want to show off in public forums. Others are not at all

interested in such communications.

 

Otherwise once for all declare whether you are going to continue with

discussions related to SJC Gurus and give option to people like us to opt out

of the group.

 

Regards,

 

Anil

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Cc: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao ; Sanjay Rath ; raon1008 Nemani

Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:23 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] ADMIN: Last word on Nemani's puzzle cheating case

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Dear Chi.Narasimha,

Before replying like this, you would have checked his chart thorougly whether

Raghu is really a cheat or not.You are spoiling one's Jyotish career like

this.I have already explained to Sanjay Ji why these kind of problems are

happening with Raghu and he accepted my explanation.The reason why I am writing

this mail is that you clearly indicated my Shishya Raghu as cheat.If somebody

says he is cheat by giving their own explanation,how you came to the conclusion

that he is cheat ? Why you have not written him seperately asking his

explanation regarding this,then discuss with other seniour Gurus,Sanjay Ji

etc.,you would have decided what really is the story.Really I felt very sad

about your mail.

For your information, I have received a lot of mails stating about Raghu's

predictive abilities after this event or defaming incident about my Shishya.For

an Astrologer,he must not be jealous of another Astrologer's correct predictions

but I see here in this list opposite to that.I strongly feel some people want to

defame Raghu as he is coming up very fast in this line.Prashna Margam clearly

tells about the qualifications of an Astrologer from the beginning when I

joined this list and I follow them strictly.I am not interested in taking any

money from this Divine Science and by the Grace of God,I am in a good position

presently.Even when I retire from my present job,I may take as Dakshina only

and not ask the querent the specific charges whatsoever.If you or Sanjay Ji is

not interested in me,1st I am going to quit from this list.Anyhow I am not in a

hurry and will wait from all the senior Gurus who are in this list and SJC.As

this silly matter has come to this

public forum,I can not keep quiet and it has become my prestige question.

Please let me know clearly your explanations regarding this matter.Take your own

time to decide who is right and who is wrong.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.pvr108 <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear friends,The topic of Raghunatha Rao Nemani cheating on puzzles keeps coming

up again and again and a couple of members asked the moderator to go to the

bottom of this and say the last word.I am the list founder and admin. I did

talk about this earlier, but did not say things unequivocally and did not

mention names. After that, I did talk to some more members who had the same

experience with Mr Nemani. Now I have a fuller picture and am comfortable

enough to mention names and use a stronger tone.I have nothing personal against

anybody. But, as the admin of the list, I will state what I found. I just hope

to put this episode to rest, not by suppressing truth but by acknowledging

it.There is absolutely no doubt in my mind after talking to several people

involved in this that Mr Nemani did intentionally cheat,

not once but several times.It is also troublesome to me that he was not

straight-forward in his apology. He said (para-phrased), "if being hasty to

share my findings with fellow students is wrong, I accept my mistake". He tried

to put a positive spin and, the way I look at it, tried to project it as a minor

indiscretion rather than deliberate cheating. After going through various facts,

I am thoroughly convinced that it was a case of intentional cheating spree and

nothing less.It is troublesome to me that he would use somebody who was going

through the worst six months of life. He asked an emotionally vulnerable person

to post a puzzle based on an event that both knew, specifically told him not to

reveal their discussion to anyone, posted a perfect solution to the puzzle and

the other person engaged in sycophancy by acknowledging that the answer was

correct.It is troublesome to me that he would send a mail to

tens of astrology related lists when replying in a humble tone to mails that

acknowledged his correct answer, even in manipulated cases. That cannot be

anything other than deriving maximum mileage from a cheating.This conduct from

a respected student of an SJC guru that I respect immensely has shocked and

dismayed me to no end. For all you know, his intention may not be to make name

for himself or get more clients for consultation. It may be to further the

respect for the knowledge of rishis as interpreted by SJC gurus. But that does

not change things for me and it is still abhorrable. We don't need to cheat in

order to advance our understanding. Our understanding may be imperfect and we

will be better off trying to perfect it than to cheat and convince people.The

loudness, persistence and fieriness of some of Nemani's critics may make some

members think that they are wrong and make them have sympathy for Mr

Nemani. But I have no sympathy for Mr Nemani in this issue. I can understand the

dismay of his critics, given that my previous administrative mail on this did

not call a spade a spade and no names were mentioned and given that Neamni's

half-apology hid more than it "confessed", put a positive spin on things and

allowed some members to later project this as a "grey" area. This is certainly

not a grey area and it is quite clear that Nemani cheated intentionally.I have

nothing against him personally. I still look forward to meeting him at the

Boston workshop, where he will be teaching Kashyapa Hora. I am heartened by the

fact that he is still running Rahu dasa and the dasa of Jupiter in Maheswaramsa

is yet to begin. While I am unequivocal in condemning his cheating, I will not

hold it against him in future. I do hope that he realizes the gravity and

seriousness of what he did, that he feels genuinely sorry for it and that

he changes.Like I said earlier, I do know of cases where he gave excellent

predictions to people I know. He needs to realize that he need not cheat and

manipulate people's views on various schools. Astrology is a spiritual subject

and honesty, straight-forwardness and purity of thought are needed. Nothing

obtained through deception can last for ever. I do hope that he comes out of

this in flying colors under the able and saattwik guidance of Sri Ramadas

Rao.Now, whatever needs to be said has been said in this matter. PLEASE BURY

THIS EPISODE. If any supporters or detractors of Rao Nemani try to re-open this

issue, I request Narayan Iyer to REMOVE THEM FROM THE LIST. Narayan, please be

strict. NO MORE DISCUSSION ON NEMANI's CHEATING ON PUZZLES PLEASE! Please get

back to astrology.Yes, I will continue to be away from the list as I focus on

the TP book.May Jupiter's light shine on us,NarasimhaList

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