Guest guest Posted August 6, 2005 Report Share Posted August 6, 2005 || Hare Rama Krishna ||Namaste Partha ji, please tell me if the same logic could be extended to other natural karka grahas being in their houses...ex: jupiter is the karka for wealth/2ndhouse...now will this bring in karaka bhava nasa...i would imagine it would..specially jupiter being Amk...please teach me.. I remember the learned explaining a while back that in case of jupiter karka bhava nasa does apply to 2nd house (even if exalted) unless he is in his own house... please share your views.. Namaste,Gaurav Jain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2005 Report Share Posted August 6, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Partha, Namaste What you said on the avastha of planets seems to be working, especially during the portions of results given by planets in Narayan dasa. This one is even with naisargika karakas. You have any more on this topic? regards Suryaviswanadham vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > Dear Lakshman > > The fifth house shows the first child. (refer Saptamsa notes) > Secondly, is Jupiter your Chara Putra karaka. If Jupiter is also > chara putra karaka, the situation would be bad compared to simply > jupiter being in fifth. > > best wishes > partha > > vedic astrology, Lakshman Brahma > <lbrahma> wrote: > > Dear Partha > > just out of curiosity.. what to be determined if the > > naisargika karaka is also the chara Karaka? are there > > any exceptions? I do have Ju in my 5th. the natural > > putra karaka and signifactor of 5th house.Also ve in > > 7th. result was I did lose my first child which was a > > still born. however subsequently I was blessed with 2 > > sons. Also I had a late marriage(28 years of age, not > > so late in recent times, hence my understanding is > > Natural benefics do not contribute to Karaka bhava > > naasya. It is my opinion and others can dis agree. > > > > lakshman > > > > --- "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > Dear Venkatesh > > > > > > Karako bhava nasa depends on the lajittadi, sayanadi > > > avasthas. Also > > > the Chara karakas damage more than naisargika > > > karakas. > > > > > > best wishes > > > partha > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 Namaste Karaka (funtional planet) is not bad if it is in the house indicating that function (karaka). Yes, while reading chart this positioning is not considered good for the simple reason that, if there is any affliction (in natal chart or in transit) to that bahava, then karka and bhava are both gripped, with no saver. If karka is not in respective bhava, then one of it (karka or bhava) can still give positive results. For example - if mars in 3rd house, no problem will be there (rather good results will be there for initiatives / brother etc), provided there is no affiliction to third house / mars. regards / Prafulla vedic astrology, "SuryaViswanadham" <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Partha, Namaste > > What you said on the avastha of planets seems to be working, > especially during the portions of results given by planets in > Narayan dasa. This one is even with naisargika karakas. > > You have any more on this topic? > > regards > Suryaviswanadham > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > Dear Lakshman > > > > The fifth house shows the first child. (refer Saptamsa notes) > > Secondly, is Jupiter your Chara Putra karaka. If Jupiter is also > > chara putra karaka, the situation would be bad compared to simply > > jupiter being in fifth. > > > > best wishes > > partha > > > > vedic astrology, Lakshman Brahma > > <lbrahma> wrote: > > > Dear Partha > > > just out of curiosity.. what to be determined if the > > > naisargika karaka is also the chara Karaka? are there > > > any exceptions? I do have Ju in my 5th. the natural > > > putra karaka and signifactor of 5th house.Also ve in > > > 7th. result was I did lose my first child which was a > > > still born. however subsequently I was blessed with 2 > > > sons. Also I had a late marriage(28 years of age, not > > > so late in recent times, hence my understanding is > > > Natural benefics do not contribute to Karaka bhava > > > naasya. It is my opinion and others can dis agree. > > > > > > lakshman > > > > > > --- "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Venkatesh > > > > > > > > Karako bhava nasa depends on the lajittadi, sayanadi > > > > avasthas. Also > > > > the Chara karakas damage more than naisargika > > > > karakas. > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > partha > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 Pranams Dear list But generally Mars in third, Saturn in eighth, Jupiter in second,Venus in seventh (only very rarely?) are practical exceptions, again subject to other respective factors of that house.. regards, Prafulla Gang wrote: Namaste Karaka (funtional planet) is not bad if it is in the house indicating that function (karaka). Yes, while reading chart this positioning is not considered good for the simple reason that, if there is any affliction (in natal chart or in transit) to that bahava, then karka and bhava are both gripped, with no saver. If karka is not in respective bhava, then one of it (karka or bhava) can still give positive results. For example - if mars in 3rd house, no problem will be there (rather good results will be there for initiatives / brother etc), provided there is no affiliction to third house / mars. regards / Prafulla vedic astrology, "SuryaViswanadham" <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Partha, Namaste > > What you said on the avastha of planets seems to be working, > especially during the portions of results given by planets in > Narayan dasa. This one is even with naisargika karakas. > > You have any more on this topic? > > regards > Suryaviswanadham > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > Dear Lakshman > > > > The fifth house shows the first child. (refer Saptamsa notes) > > Secondly, is Jupiter your Chara Putra karaka. If Jupiter is also > > chara putra karaka, the situation would be bad compared to simply > > jupiter being in fifth. > > > > best wishes > > partha > > > > vedic astrology, Lakshman Brahma > > <lbrahma> wrote: > > > Dear Partha > > > just out of curiosity.. what to be determined if the > > > naisargika karaka is also the chara Karaka? are there > > > any exceptions? I do have Ju in my 5th. the natural > > > putra karaka and signifactor of 5th house.Also ve in > > > 7th. result was I did lose my first child which was a > > > still born. however subsequently I was blessed with 2 > > > sons. Also I had a late marriage(28 years of age, not > > > so late in recent times, hence my understanding is > > > Natural benefics do not contribute to Karaka bhava > > > naasya. It is my opinion and others can dis agree. > > > > > > lakshman > > > > > > --- "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Venkatesh > > > > > > > > Karako bhava nasa depends on the lajittadi, sayanadi > > > > avasthas. Also > > > > the Chara karakas damage more than naisargika > > > > karakas. > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > partha > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 Namaste No, there seems to be no exception. The reason, I stated is the root cause (in my observations), for not preferring such karaka occupying the bhava. Likewise, planet positioned in its own house is less preferred to aspecting its own house. regards/Prafulla vedic astrology, ajp iyer <jyothish_ajp> wrote: > Pranams > Dear list > But generally Mars in third, Saturn in eighth, Jupiter in second,Venus > in seventh (only very rarely?) are practical exceptions, again subject > to other respective factors of that house.. > regards, > > > Prafulla Gang wrote: > > > Namaste > > > > Karaka (funtional planet) is not bad if it is in the house > > indicating that function (karaka). Yes, while reading chart this > > positioning is not considered good for the simple reason that, if > > there is any affliction (in natal chart or in transit) to that > > bahava, then karka and bhava are both gripped, with no saver. If > > karka is not in respective bhava, then one of it (karka or bhava) > > can still give positive results. > > > > For example - if mars in 3rd house, no problem will be there (rather > > good results will be there for initiatives / brother etc), provided > > there is no affiliction to third house / mars. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > vedic astrology, "SuryaViswanadham" > > <vishwanatham@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > > Dear Partha, Namaste > > > > > > What you said on the avastha of planets seems to be working, > > > especially during the portions of results given by planets in > > > Narayan dasa. This one is even with naisargika karakas. > > > > > > You have any more on this topic? > > > > > > regards > > > Suryaviswanadham > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > Dear Lakshman > > > > > > > > The fifth house shows the first child. (refer Saptamsa notes) > > > > Secondly, is Jupiter your Chara Putra karaka. If Jupiter is also > > > > chara putra karaka, the situation would be bad compared to > > simply > > > > jupiter being in fifth. > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > partha > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Lakshman Brahma > > > > <lbrahma> wrote: > > > > > Dear Partha > > > > > just out of curiosity.. what to be determined if the > > > > > naisargika karaka is also the chara Karaka? are there > > > > > any exceptions? I do have Ju in my 5th. the natural > > > > > putra karaka and signifactor of 5th house.Also ve in > > > > > 7th. result was I did lose my first child which was a > > > > > still born. however subsequently I was blessed with 2 > > > > > sons. Also I had a late marriage(28 years of age, not > > > > > so late in recent times, hence my understanding is > > > > > Natural benefics do not contribute to Karaka bhava > > > > > naasya. It is my opinion and others can dis agree. > > > > > > > > > > lakshman > > > > > > > > > > --- "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Venkatesh > > > > > > > > > > > > Karako bhava nasa depends on the lajittadi, sayanadi > > > > > > avasthas. Also > > > > > > the Chara karakas damage more than naisargika > > > > > > karakas. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology chart > > </gads? t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Dasa& w4=Astrology+horoscope&w5=Astrology+software&c=5&s=101&.sig=lbpcns3to cNDRrP4KKhg2w> > > Vedic astrology > > </gads? t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Dasa& w4=Astrology+horoscope&w5=Astrology+software&c=5&s=101&.sig=NaIMq45Ry ysrDbnh04wi8w> > > Dasa > > </gads? t=ms&k=Dasa&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Dasa&w4=Astrolog y+horoscope&w5=Astrology+software&c=5&s=101&.sig=5RW0BSrgE2LNDTesul1- Vg> > > > > Astrology horoscope > > </gads? t=ms&k=Astrology+horoscope&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=D asa&w4=Astrology+horoscope&w5=Astrology+software&c=5&s=101&.sig=aKFbQ 8Z_VF5cfn29NTZAtA> > > Astrology software > > </gads? t=ms&k=Astrology+software&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Da sa&w4=Astrology+horoscope&w5=Astrology+software&c=5&s=101&.sig=tcB9yV nePzWYVclsNQj0NA> > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- ------- > > > > > > > > * Visit your group " vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology> " on the web. > > > > * > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology? subject=Un> > > > > > > * Terms of > > Service <> . > > > > > > -------------------------------- ------- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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