Guest guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 dear panditji, as i am one of the puzzle givers, i am writing this email. at least in my case nemaniji is the only person who had mentioned about the marriage event. for the second event he could not come any near. as already mentioned these events were not analyzed on this list or any other list before and also even during the puzzle period i was not available to anybody for any discussions. i am writing this mail not to defend anybody but to humbly request all the members to avoid such mud slinging against each other in the interest of this group and this divine science. here again, you may assess astrologically whether i am telling truth or not, if you donot believe my words. tvr 9422203510 vedic astrology [vedic astrology]On Behalf Of Panditji Friday, July 29, 2005 9:52 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Cheats Namaste, I have stopped looking at the puzzles on the list after the cheating of Ragu Nemani was exposed. It will be a good idea to look at the past puzzles that this person has attempted and been correct. I recall one puzzle posted by Mr. Surya Piddapati regarding an incident with his car. The master puzzle solver got it right almost to the last detail. When I went through his posted analysis I found really no connection between the analysis and the event. I do not know whether Mr. Surya is still on the list. If you are, please let the list know whether there was any cheating involved in that puzzle as well. I ask this to anyone who has posted puzzles on the list who had been contacted by this person before soving the puzzle to come forward and expose this fraud. Do not be shy and timid. This is the kind of behaviour that gives jyotish a bad name. Please do not try to hide or defend fraud. "Krishna will always stand with those who are on the side of Dharma" .... Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 Namaste Tvraoji, Mr. Nemani has done it now not once , not twice but three times that we know for sure. This person has been cheating and giving bad name to jyotish and the method he was using. People have been fooled into beleiving that this is some super method of analysis, and it could be but if one has to cheat to an answer where is the credibility of the method? He has a history of "holier than though" attitude toward members who have asked for explanations of his analysis. I am not suggesting you had given answer to him, but his track record does not inspire much confidence. The puzzle I mentioned today where he cheated, the details of which when they come out may be very disturbing to the members of the list. I am not a moderator of the list, and the moderator may even decide to delete todays mails from archives, I do not know. I urge the moderator to get to the bottom of this. This is bringing bad name to jyotish and as this person is going to present at the SJC conference, it may be a good idea to look at whether this method he is presenting has been actually used by him to really answer the questions. If an organization associates with someone of such low credibility, it can bring into question the credibility of the organization. Is that what SJC wants to head toward ? I ask this question sicerely to the leaders of SJC. I am not associated with SJC and I have debated some of the jyotish techniques put forth by SJC but that debate has nothing to do with this issue. I am concerned about the bad name this can bring to Jyotish. It is high time that this is brought to light. .... P.S. Moderator, please forgive this non jyotish stuff, but if you look closely and the big picture you will realize that this is very important to jyotish as a whole that we weed out frauds. On 7/29/05, tvrao <tvrao_agd wrote: > dear panditji, > > as i am one of the puzzle givers, i am writing this email. > > at least in my case nemaniji is the only person who had mentioned about the > marriage event. for the second event he could not come any near. as already > mentioned these events were not analyzed on this list or any other list > before and also even during the puzzle period i was not available to > anybody for any discussions. > > i am writing this mail not to defend anybody but to humbly request all the > members to avoid such mud slinging against each other in the interest of > this group and this divine science. > > here again, you may assess astrologically whether i am telling truth or > not, if you donot believe my words. > > tvr > 9422203510 > > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology]On Behalf Of Panditji > Friday, July 29, 2005 9:52 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Cheats > > > Namaste, > > I have stopped looking at the puzzles on the list after the cheating > of Ragu Nemani was exposed. It will be a good idea to look at the past > puzzles that this person has attempted and been correct. I recall one > puzzle posted by Mr. Surya Piddapati regarding an incident with his > car. The master puzzle solver got it right almost to the last detail. > When I went through his posted analysis I found really no connection > between the analysis and the event. I do not know whether Mr. Surya is > still on the list. If you are, please let the list know whether there > was any cheating involved in that puzzle as well. > > I ask this to anyone who has posted puzzles on the list who had been > contacted by this person before soving the puzzle to come forward and > expose this fraud. Do not be shy and timid. This is the kind of > behaviour that gives jyotish a bad name. Please do not try to hide or > defend fraud. > > "Krishna will always stand with those who are on the side of Dharma" > > > ... > > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > > > vedic astrology > > > > ________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Pandit Ji, I personally dont know about you.Anyhow I respect all memebers in this list as long as they behave in a respectable manner.I know Raghunath from last 2 years and he has grown up very fast in Jyotish field.I have seen his predictions are becoming true.Now regarding the puzzle you are talikg about,if after publishing the puzzle, why he has to contact Raghu by phone about the puzzle ? What reply you give for this ? I have given clear instruction to raghu that in future if any puzzles are given in this list and the puzzle giver contacts him over the phone not to reply anything but to see the mail only. Also as TVRao Ji wrote that in his puzzle only Raghu predicted the 1st event and none else.So where are they now who is doing baseless allegations aginst Raghu. Please dont write any personal things in this list and this is meant only to learn Jyotish.You have learnt Jyotish and in the beginning itself it is written that a practicing Jyotish should try to remove the Shadripus and you are showing one of them here.So be calm,think twice,remove your anger,Matsarya etc.and participate in Jyotish related discussions. I wanted the moderator to write some words in this matter to clarify this. With Shri Hari Vaayu naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Panditji <navagraha > wrote: Namaste Tvraoji,Mr. Nemani has done it now not once , not twice but three times thatwe know for sure. This person has been cheating and giving bad name tojyotish and the method he was using. People have been fooled intobeleiving that this is some super method of analysis, and it could bebut if one has to cheat to an answer where is the credibility of themethod? He has a history of "holier than though" attitude towardmembers who have asked for explanations of his analysis. I am notsuggesting you had given answer to him, but his track record does notinspire much confidence. The puzzle I mentioned today where hecheated, the details of which when they come out may be verydisturbing to the members of the list.I am not a moderator of the list, and the moderator may even decide todelete todays mails from archives, I do not know. I urge the moderatorto get to the bottom of this. This is bringing bad name to jyotish andas this person is going to present at the SJC conference, it may be agood idea to look at whether this method he is presenting has beenactually used by him to really answer the questions. If anorganization associates with someone of such low credibility, it canbring into question the credibility of the organization. Is that whatSJC wants to head toward ? I ask this question sicerely to the leadersof SJC. I am not associated with SJC and I have debated some of thejyotish techniques put forth by SJC but that debate has nothing to dowith this issue. I am concerned about the bad name this can bring toJyotish.It is high time that this is brought to light....P.S. Moderator, please forgive this non jyotish stuff, but if you lookclosely and the big picture you will realize that this is veryimportant to jyotish as a whole that we weed out frauds.On 7/29/05, tvrao <tvrao_agd (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in> wrote:> dear panditji,> > as i am one of the puzzle givers, i am writing this email.> > at least in my case nemaniji is the only person who had mentioned about the> marriage event. for the second event he could not come any near. as already> mentioned these events were not analyzed on this list or any other list> before and also even during the puzzle period i was not available to> anybody for any discussions.> > i am writing this mail not to defend anybody but to humbly request all the> members to avoid such mud slinging against each other in the interest of> this group and this divine science.> > here again, you may assess astrologically whether i am telling truth or> not, if you donot believe my words.> > tvr> 9422203510> > > > vedic astrology> [vedic astrology]On Behalf Of Panditji> Friday, July 29, 2005 9:52 PM> vedic astrology> Subject: [vedic astrology] Cheats> > > Namaste,> > I have stopped looking at the puzzles on the list after the cheating> of Ragu Nemani was exposed. It will be a good idea to look at the past> puzzles that this person has attempted and been correct. I recall one> puzzle posted by Mr. Surya Piddapati regarding an incident with his> car. The master puzzle solver got it right almost to the last detail.> When I went through his posted analysis I found really no connection> between the analysis and the event. I do not know whether Mr. Surya is> still on the list. If you are, please let the list know whether there> was any cheating involved in that puzzle as well.> > I ask this to anyone who has posted puzzles on the list who had been> contacted by this person before soving the puzzle to come forward and> expose this fraud. Do not be shy and timid. This is the kind of> behaviour that gives jyotish a bad name. Please do not try to hide or> defend fraud.> > "Krishna will always stand with those who are on the side of Dharma"> > > ...> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info:> vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> Links> > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info:> vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > ________________________________> > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > Your use of is subject to the > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > Your use of is subject to the > Your use of Groups is subject to the > ________________________________> Too much spam in your inbox? 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Guest guest Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 Hi guys, I have been following this thread so closely, and everytime I read the allegations against Raghunatha Nemani, I just cringe. Not because I have sided with him or he is a personal friend, or anything like that, but because I just feel that all the guys out there who seem to have utmost hatred and ager against Rao are just not realizing that Raghunatha is not bigger than astrology. This list is meant for discussing astgrology and it is the astrology that should rule the roost here, and not the conduct of certain member. As far as this list goes, Raghnatha, albeit a very good astrologer (I would vouch for this), is just a small fry in comparison to some well renowned astrologers, practicing on the list. And lets be fair to him; he has already confessed his mistake, and has asked for pardon from his Guru, other learned members and from the almighty. Now, what else you guys expect from him? In all fairness to Raghunatha, and as well as other learned Gurus, we should cut this issue right here. If Raghnathaji has indeed done something wrong, he would face the music; after all cause and effect is the basic premise from which this divine science operates. So guys, lets give everybody a break from Raghunatha bashing, and benefit outselves from the wisdom of senior gurus on this list.... May the good thoughts come to us from all universe ! Manoj Sharma --- Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: > > ` ïI ra"veNÔ gué_yae nm> > > om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Pandit Ji, > I personally dont know about you.Anyhow I respect > all memebers in this list as long as they behave in > a respectable manner.I know Raghunath from last 2 > years and he has grown up very fast in Jyotish > field.I have seen his predictions are becoming > true.Now regarding the puzzle you are talikg > about,if after publishing the puzzle, why he has to > contact Raghu by phone about the puzzle ? What reply > you give for this ? I have given clear instruction > to raghu that in future if any puzzles are given in > this list and the puzzle giver contacts him over the > phone not to reply anything but to see the mail > only. > Also as TVRao Ji wrote that in his puzzle only Raghu > predicted the 1st event and none else.So where are > they now who is doing baseless allegations aginst > Raghu. > Please dont write any personal things in this list > and this is meant only to learn Jyotish.You have > learnt Jyotish and in the beginning itself it is > written that a practicing Jyotish should try to > remove the Shadripus and you are showing one of them > here.So be calm,think twice,remove your > anger,Matsarya etc.and participate in Jyotish > related discussions. > I wanted the moderator to write some words in this > matter to clarify this. > With Shri Hari Vaayu naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > Panditji <navagraha wrote: > Namaste Tvraoji, > > Mr. Nemani has done it now not once , not twice but > three times that > we know for sure. This person has been cheating and > giving bad name to > jyotish and the method he was using. People have > been fooled into > beleiving that this is some super method of > analysis, and it could be > but if one has to cheat to an answer where is the > credibility of the > method? He has a history of "holier than though" > attitude toward > members who have asked for explanations of his > analysis. I am not > suggesting you had given answer to him, but his > track record does not > inspire much confidence. The puzzle I mentioned > today where he > cheated, the details of which when they come out may > be very > disturbing to the members of the list. > > I am not a moderator of the list, and the moderator > may even decide to > delete todays mails from archives, I do not know. I > urge the moderator > to get to the bottom of this. This is bringing bad > name to jyotish and > as this person is going to present at the SJC > conference, it may be a > good idea to look at whether this method he is > presenting has been > actually used by him to really answer the questions. > If an > organization associates with someone of such low > credibility, it can > bring into question the credibility of the > organization. Is that what > SJC wants to head toward ? I ask this question > sicerely to the leaders > of SJC. I am not associated with SJC and I have > debated some of the > jyotish techniques put forth by SJC but that debate > has nothing to do > with this issue. I am concerned about the bad name > this can bring to > Jyotish. > > It is high time that this is brought to light. > > ... > > P.S. Moderator, please forgive this non jyotish > stuff, but if you look > closely and the big picture you will realize that > this is very > important to jyotish as a whole that we weed out > frauds. > > > On 7/29/05, tvrao <tvrao_agd wrote: > > dear panditji, > > > > as i am one of the puzzle givers, i am writing > this email. > > > > at least in my case nemaniji is the only person > who had mentioned about the > > marriage event. for the second event he could not > come any near. as already > > mentioned these events were not analyzed on this > list or any other list > > before and also even during the puzzle period i > was not available to > > anybody for any discussions. > > > > i am writing this mail not to defend anybody but > to humbly request all the > > members to avoid such mud slinging against each > other in the interest of > > this group and this divine science. > > > > here again, you may assess astrologically whether > i am telling truth or > > not, if you donot believe my words. > > > > tvr > > 9422203510 > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology]On Behalf > Of Panditji > > Friday, July 29, 2005 9:52 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Cheats > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > I have stopped looking at the puzzles on the list > after the cheating > > of Ragu Nemani was exposed. It will be a good idea > to look at the past > > puzzles that this person has attempted and been > correct. I recall one > > puzzle posted by Mr. Surya Piddapati regarding an > incident with his > > car. The master puzzle solver got it right almost > to the last detail. > > When I went through his posted analysis I found > really no connection > > between the analysis and the event. I do not know > whether Mr. Surya is > > still on the list. If you are, please let the list > know whether there > > was any cheating involved in that puzzle as well. > > > > I ask this to anyone who has posted puzzles on the > list who had been > > contacted by this person before soving the puzzle > to come forward and > > expose this fraud. Do not be shy and timid. This > is the kind of > > behaviour that gives jyotish a bad name. Please do > not try to hide or > > defend fraud. > > > > "Krishna will always stand with those who are on > the side of Dharma" > > > > > > ... > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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