Keralite Astrologers---To Prabodh

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I am so sorry.I was under the impression it was Chandrasekharji, who wrote the

mail.As a matter of fact, I was totally embarassed when I saw a mail with the

prefix Chandrasekhar, containing derogatory remarks about me....Now it is very

clear, that someone in the list , through impersonation, is beset to tarnish

the image of Chandrasekharji.Had it not been for you, I would'nt have known the

truth.Thankyou very much

Regards

KIDPrabodh Vekhande <amolmandar > wrote:

Dear Kid Namste>However, I am sad to take cognisance that a senior astrologer

like>chandrasekharji has used vulgar language that is unbecoming of a>person

of his stature .Chandrashekharji no more writes on this list and will never be

partyto such non astrological discussions in this manner. His id

ischandrashekhar46 (AT) (DOT) co.in. This Chandrashekhar is a different

person.Prabodh VekhandeJai Jai ShankarHar Har Shankar--- In

vedic astrology, kid kid <astrokkid> wrote:> Dear

Murughan,> Glad to know that there are some sane voices in the list.The needof

the hour is impartial people like you.However, I am sad to takecognisance that

a senior astrologer like chandrasekharji has usedvulgar language that is

unbecoming of a

person of his stature .Onceagain Murughan, thank you for your kind words.>

Regards> KID> sakthivel_murughan <sakthivel_murughan> wrote:> As a

Tamilian, I don't find anything objectionable or anything that > promotes

regionalism/racism in kid's mail.He has presented certain > facts.Even in KP

astrology,the terms like "punarphoo dosha" etc are > actually borrowed from

"Prasnamarga" The mail of Mr chandrasekhar > exhibits his inflated ego and also

reflects his absymally poor > > knowledge of the history of astrology and the

great contributions > made by south Indian astrologers especially of kerala and

> Tamilnadu.Mr chandrasekhar's mail depicts the extent to which an > astrologer

could stoop down Also his wordings echoes arrogance , > perversion and

prevarication of facts > S Murughan> vedic astrology,

Chandra

Sekhar > <chandra_sekhar1970> wrote:> > who is this kid? > > > > Looks

truly a kid born to spoil the name of Kerala. If conception > takes place when

Budha is in fast motion, the child will be born in > the 8th month and will

behave in a haphazard way fast, slow, reverse > and so on. This may be a

similar case. > > > > UP and Kasi, Uttarakhand, Orissa/Puri all had great

pandits and > Kerala may prove to be a kid if the right history of astrology is

> wrote by some scholars like Sanjayji or Narasimhaji.> > > > Chandrasekhar> >

> > > > > > Raj Sharma <kngcl> wrote:> > Dear Kid, > > > > It is sad to

note the ego and rascism in your note to Mr Iyer. > > > > May lord bless us

with true knowledge.> > >

> Regards > > > > Raj> > > > > > > > naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa@g...>

wrote:> > Dear Sri Kid,> > > > You have the advantage of me ... you know my

name ... I cant say > the > > same thing about you! It would be great to

associate/learn with a > > learned astrologer from Kerala.> > > > I seem to

have offended you! My apologies! All I stated was that > > your logic is not

valid. Just because Kerala has an illustrious > > history/lineage of astrology,

and just because someone from Kerala > > argued his point, doesn't make it

either convincing or worthy!!! > One > > has to accept/dismiss an argument

based on its pure > > merit/reasoning/logic/rationale and not based on the

subjects > > background or his demography, which I feel is a gross miscarriage

>

of > > judgement!> > > > BTW ... I am very well aware of my lineage and the

state that I > > belong to, especially wrt to Astrology, Tantra and forms of >

> Bhagavathi worship. I am not entirely ignorant about this. In any > > case,

thanks for the reminder!> > > > Anyways, I am sure, we would all

enjoy/appreciate it, if you could > > come out of anonymity and enlighten us

with your knowledge > > > > Thanks> > Warm Regards> > Narayan> > > > > > ---

In vedic astrology, kid kid <astrokkid> > > wrote:> > >

Dear Iyer,> > > Your comments are quite un-warranted.Had you been aware of your

> > own glorious past, perhaps you would not have made such > > statements.All

the well- known as well as acknowledged astrological > > scholars are from

Kerala, both ancient and modern. That includes > the > > famous Sangamagrama

Madhava, who using his theorem of "infinite > > series" , gave mathematical

way to find out the circumference of a > > circle for the first time in the

world ,centuries before Scotish > > Mathematician James Gregory and the German

born philosopher cum > > mathematician Laibnitse arrived at the same.Further,

Madhava gave > in > > his monumental treatise"Venuaroham" the method to

calculate the > > accurate position of Moon for every 36 minutes.The > > famous

"Prasnamarga", considered to be the Bible of horary had its > > genesis in

Kerala.Varaha's "Brihatjathaka" popularly known > as "Hora" > > as maximum

number of translation in Malayalam Language.The Keralite > > astrologers are

well Known for their expertise in "Devaprasna"an > > exclusive

horary> > > practised widely in Kerala.Keralite astrologers like Machat > >

Illayathu were respected and even honoured by fundamentalist muslim > >

invaders like Tippu Sultan.The person(anonymous) who wrote the > > famous

"Nauka" is believed to be a keralite.. In Kerala there is a > >

caste/community assigned exclusively for horoscope making and > >

delineation.The famous Alan Leo of the west came to Kerala to learn > >

astrology during the turn of the last centuryThe contemporary > > writers in

Jyotish including Chandrahari of Ttue ayanamsha fame, K > > Surendran, the

elite contribitor of the Astrological Magazine, V S > > Kalayanaraman

IPS(Retd), who use to pen articles in the > astrological > > Magazine in the

name Bhaskaradasan, VSK ,Veeyeskay, Utpala , Mihira > > etc are all Keralite

astrologers.You should remember that Kerala

is > > the only place in the world repeat world, where communist came to > >

power through ballot box and not bloody revolution Against the > > backdrop of

the strong leftist moorings and psychological and > > cultural> > > warfare by

the missionaries and the Islamic fundamentalist > > against hinduism in

general and astrology in particular, > > astrologers of kerala never lagged

behind either in propogation or > > in the predictive side of Jyotish., though

they seldom run to the > > media to tom tom their success in predictions> > >

..You may take note that this scribe was the first to write an > open > > letter

(mail) to Pradeep vehemently criticizing him ,when he felt > > that the praise

the latter showered on a fradulent puzzle > > solver ,engaged in misguiding

the gullible members, was

quite > > undeserving.At the same time, this scribe was the first to openly > >

acknowledge the unparalled genrosity of Narasimha, hitherto unknown > > in the

history of modern astrology, and his commitment to the study > > of this divine

science, in making available the free down load of > > astro-software.Do

remember, this scribe is Narasimha's TRUE FRIEND > > and definitely not a

sycophant who misguides him.> > > As for Pradeep, he argued his case

brilliantly and convincingly > > and proved that he is a worthy scion of the

veteran keralite > > astrologers of yester years.> > > Late C G Rajan and Sri R

Santhanam , both outstanding > scholars,are > > the role model of this scribe.

Both of them are non--Keralites. > Late > > Sri R Santhanam was basically an

Andhrite and was responsible for > > bringing me to

astrology.This writer is not stupid to say that > > jyotish is the privilege of

Keralites.The point is for a keralite > > astrologer (not all, most of them)

scholarship in astrology is > > inherent , inborn and instinctive and sciolism

is seldom noticed > in > > them ; whereas, for the most of others ,it needs to

be acquired.As > > far as I am concerned, my primary commitment is towards

Jyotish and > > nothing else> > > KID> > > naaraayana_iyer

<jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote:> > > Dear Kid & Pradeep,> > > > > > .... Just

because someone is a Keralite, doesn't make him a > > > scholar. It is just

plain invalid logic! I am a Keralite myself > > and > > > proud of it ... but

that doesnt prove anything ... states Andhra > > > Pradesh and Orissa have a

great history of parampara of Astrology

> > > too!> > > > > > Just my 2cents.> > > > > > On another note: Yesterday we

celebrated Guru Poornima at my > > Guru's > > > house Narasimha's house, first

by expressing our affection in the > > > form of a compilation (transcripts of

45 lessons done till date) > > in > > > a book format with CD, and then

participating in the Satya > > Narayana > > > Vratam.> > > > > > Thank You

Narasimha & Sanjayji!> > > > > > Warm Regards> > > Narayan> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > >

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > > > Dear shri Kid> > > > > > > > Thanks for

your kind words.> > > > It is a privilige and blessing to have a lineage

of learned > > > scholars> > > > showing path.> > > > Kind regds> > > > Pradeep>

> > > vedic astrology, kid kid > <astrokkid> > > >

wrote:> > > > > Dear Pradeep,> > > > > Now I Know for sure that you are a

keralite. No wonder you > > > display> > > > deep erudition and scholarship in

the ongoing debate.From > > > Vararuchi-> > > > via-- Sangamagrama Madhava-to

Prof A R Rajaraja Verma to Dr KV > > > Sharma> > > > to Dr N E Muthuswami, the

state of kerala had produced a > > lineage > > > of> > > > outstanding scholars

in astrology.Initially, I mistook your> > > > intentions; and I am sorry for

that.Now, I presume, you are a > > > person> > > >

encaged in dispassionate study.Keep it up> > > > > Regards> > > > > KID> > > > >

vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > > > > Dear shri Kid> > > >

> > > > > > I was referring to K.C.Keshavapillai author of Jyothisha > > > > >

Gurubhoothan.Kerala.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > Pradeep> > > > > > > >

> > vedic astrology, kid kid > > <astrokkid> > > >

> > wrote:> > > > > > Pradeep,> > > > > > "Keshava pillai has clearly said -

Vargas are thinking > about > > > > > > divisions of lagna and planets.The

examples i have quoted > > > from > > > > > > parashara too

reveals the same."> > > > > > KID--Which Kesavapillai are you referring ?> > > >

> > Please reply> > > > > > KID> > > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > > > > > Dear respected members> > > > > > >

> > > > > sutabhAvanavAMshAchcha sthirasantatikArakAt.h |> > > > > > evaM

trishAMshakuNDalyAmapi yogaM vichintayet.h || 30||> > > > > > > > > > > > All

of us know the importance of panchama bahava in > > > > > >

rajayoga,Mahrajayoga etc.Sthira Santhatikaraka is > > Jupiter.Thus > > > 5th >

> > > > > lord and Jupiter and their amshas are ofcourse important.We > > > all

> > > > > know > > > > >

> where to see the panchama bhava.Sage parashara too has > > > explained > > > >

> to > > > > > > us the relevance of 5th bhava and its amshas under yogas > for

> > > > > > afluence.> > > > > > > > > > > > Suta bhava navamshacha is thus

clearly the navamsha of 5th > > > lord - > > > > > > and shri Narasimha too

agree - though he uses the word > > > > > > ambiguity.Now sage says similarly,

see the above from > > > > > > trishamshakundali.It is nothing but to see the

5th lords > and > > > > > > jupiters position there.Shri Narasimha is

intelligently > > > tilting > > > > > the > > > > > > priority.> > > > > > > >

> > > > There are numerous such

shlokas under jaimini sutras, > > > karakamsha > > > > > > etc,referring to

aspects involving amshas.We know the > > > difference > > > > > in > > > > > >

opinion amongst scholars regarding where to see these > > from,ie > > > > >

Rashi > > > > > > or Navamsha.If one study the works in whole considering the >

> > gola > > > > > and > > > > > > ganita part along with the shlokas ,there is

no chance for > > > > > > ambiguity.I have always said by chart - we do not

mean > > > drawing - > > > > > but > > > > > > analysis with bhavas.The word

kundali does not mean we have > > to > > > see > > > > > > bhavas there.> > > >

> > Parashara muni has clearly said

where to see 12 Bhavas> > (because > > > he > > > > > > uses bhava lords along

with their > > > navamsha ,drekkana,shstyamsha > > > > > > etc).We cannot find

a single shloka where, bhava is > > mentioned > > > in > > > > > > vargamshas.>

> > > > > > > > > > > I thank shri narasimhas encouragement,but nothing was > >

> haste.Apart > > > > > > from my discretion,( ofcourse within my

limitations),i had > > > also > > > > > > listened to scholars like Late

Santhanam(who can never be > > > haste > > > > > as > > > > > > he has

translated the whole BPHS), Subbu Rao, > > > K.C.KeshavaPillai > > > > > >

etc.Keshava pillai has clearly said - Vargas are thinking

> > > about > > > > > > divisions of lagna and planets.The examples i have

quoted > > > from > > > > > > parashara too reveals the same.> > > > > > > > >

> > > Thus this does not stop us from answering the basic > > > question.The >

> > > > > lagna shadvargake shloka and Hora.Can we see houses from > > HORA > >

> as > > > > > per > > > > > > sage Parashara's definition.Can we see aspect as

per the > > much > > > > > > praised shloka.Thus let us ponder together and

answer than > > > getting > > > > > > over with intelligent interpretations.> >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > Pradeep> > > > > > > >

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