Keralite Astrologers---To Naaraayana Iyer

July 22, 2005

Dear Iyer,

Your comments are quite un-warranted.Had you been aware of your own glorious

past, perhaps you would not have made such statements.All the well- known as

well as acknowledged astrological scholars are from Kerala, both ancient and

modern. That includes the famous Sangamagrama Madhava, who using his theorem of

"infinite series" , gave mathematical way to find out the circumference of a

circle for the first time in the world ,centuries before Scotish Mathematician

James Gregory and the German born philosopher cum mathematician Laibnitse

arrived at the same.Further, Madhava gave in his monumental

treatise"Venuaroham" the method to calculate the accurate position of Moon for

every 36 minutes.The famous "Prasnamarga", considered to be the Bible of horary

had its genesis in Kerala.Varaha's "Brihatjathaka" popularly known as "Hora" as

maximum number of translation in Malayalam Language.The Keralite astrologers are

well Known for their expertise in

"Devaprasna"an exclusive horary practised widely in Kerala.Keralite astrologers

like Machat Illayathu were respected and even honoured by fundamentalist muslim

invaders like Tippu Sultan.The person(anonymous) who wrote the famous "Nauka"

is believed to be a keralite.. In Kerala there is a caste/community assigned

exclusively for horoscope making and delineation.The famous Alan Leo of the

west came to Kerala to learn astrology during the turn of the last centuryThe

contemporary writers in Jyotish including Chandrahari of Ttue ayanamsha fame,

K Surendran, the elite contribitor of the Astrological Magazine, V S

Kalayanaraman IPS(Retd), who use to pen articles in the astrological Magazine

in the name Bhaskaradasan, VSK ,Veeyeskay, Utpala , Mihira etc are all Keralite

astrologers.You should remember that Kerala is the only place in the world

repeat world, where communist came to power through ballot box and not bloody

revolution Against the backdrop

of the strong leftist moorings and psychological and cultural warfare by the

missionaries and the Islamic fundamentalist against hinduism in general and

astrology in particular, astrologers of kerala never lagged behind either in

propogation or in the predictive side of Jyotish., though they seldom run to

the media to tom tom their success in predictions

..You may take note that this scribe was the first to write an open letter (mail)

to Pradeep vehemently criticizing him ,when he felt that the praise the latter

showered on a fradulent puzzle solver ,engaged in misguiding the gullible

members, was quite undeserving.At the same time, this scribe was the first to

openly acknowledge the unparalled genrosity of Narasimha, hitherto unknown in

the history of modern astrology, and his commitment to the study of this divine

science, in making available the free down load of astro-software.Do remember,

this scribe is Narasimha's TRUE FRIEND and definitely not a sycophant who

misguides him.

As for Pradeep, he argued his case brilliantly and convincingly and proved that

he is a worthy scion of the veteran keralite astrologers of yester years.

Late C G Rajan and Sri R Santhanam , both outstanding scholars,are the role

model of this scribe. Both of them are non--Keralites. Late Sri R Santhanam was

basically an Andhrite and was responsible for bringing me to astrology.This

writer is not stupid to say that jyotish is the privilege of Keralites.The

point is for a keralite astrologer (not all, most of them) scholarship in

astrology is inherent , inborn and instinctive and sciolism is seldom noticed

in them ; whereas, for the most of others ,it needs to be acquired.As far as I

am concerned, my primary commitment is towards Jyotish and nothing else

KID

naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa > wrote:

Dear Kid & Pradeep, .... Just because someone is a Keralite, doesn't make him

a scholar. It is just plain invalid logic! I am a Keralite myself and proud of

it ... but that doesnt prove anything ... states Andhra Pradesh and Orissa have

a great history of parampara of Astrology too!Just my 2cents.On another note:

Yesterday we celebrated Guru Poornima at my Guru's house Narasimha's house,

first by expressing our affection in the form of a compilation (transcripts of

45 lessons done till date) in a book format with CD, and then participating in

the Satya Narayana Vratam.Thank You Narasimha & Sanjayji!Warm RegardsNarayan---

In vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep>

wrote:> Dear shri Kid> > Thanks for your kind

words.> It is a privilige and blessing to have a lineage of learned scholars>

showing path.> Kind regds> Pradeep> vedic astrology, kid

kid <astrokkid> wrote:> > Dear Pradeep,> > Now I Know for sure that you are

a keralite. No wonder you display> deep erudition and scholarship in the ongoing

debate.From Vararuchi-> via-- Sangamagrama Madhava-to Prof A R Rajaraja Verma to

Dr KV Sharma> to Dr N E Muthuswami, the state of kerala had produced a lineage

of> outstanding scholars in astrology.Initially, I mistook your> intentions;

and I am sorry for that.Now, I presume, you are a person> encaged in

dispassionate study.Keep it up> > Regards> > KID> > vijayadas_pradeep

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > Dear shri Kid> > > > I was referring to

K.C.Keshavapillai

author of Jyothisha > > Gurubhoothan.Kerala.> > > > Thanks> > Pradeep> > > > ---

In vedic astrology, kid kid <astrokkid> > > wrote:> > >

Pradeep,> > > "Keshava pillai has clearly said - Vargas are thinking about > >

> divisions of lagna and planets.The examples i have quoted from > > >

parashara too reveals the same."> > > KID--Which Kesavapillai are you referring

?> > > Please reply> > > KID> > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > > Dear respected members> > > > > >

sutabhAvanavAMshAchcha sthirasantatikArakAt.h |> > > evaM

trishAMshakuNDalyAmapi yogaM vichintayet.h || 30||> > > > > > All of us know

the importance of panchama bahava in > > >

rajayoga,Mahrajayoga etc.Sthira Santhatikaraka is Jupiter.Thus 5th > > > lord

and Jupiter and their amshas are ofcourse important.We all > > know > > > where

to see the panchama bhava.Sage parashara too has explained > > to > > > us the

relevance of 5th bhava and its amshas under yogas for > > > afluence.> > > > >

> Suta bhava navamshacha is thus clearly the navamsha of 5th lord - > > > and

shri Narasimha too agree - though he uses the word > > > ambiguity.Now sage

says similarly, see the above from > > > trishamshakundali.It is nothing but to

see the 5th lords and > > > jupiters position there.Shri Narasimha is

intelligently tilting > > the > > > priority.> > > > > > There are numerous

such shlokas under jaimini sutras, karakamsha > > >

etc,referring to aspects involving amshas.We know the difference > > in > > >

opinion amongst scholars regarding where to see these from,ie > > Rashi > > >

or Navamsha.If one study the works in whole considering the gola > > and > > >

ganita part along with the shlokas ,there is no chance for > > > ambiguity.I

have always said by chart - we do not mean drawing - > > but > > > analysis

with bhavas.The word kundali does not mean we have to see > > > bhavas there.>

> > Parashara muni has clearly said where to see 12 Bhavas(because he > > >

uses bhava lords along with their navamsha ,drekkana,shstyamsha > > > etc).We

cannot find a single shloka where, bhava is mentioned in > > > vargamshas.> > >

> > > I thank shri narasimhas encouragement,but nothing was

haste.Apart > > > from my discretion,( ofcourse within my limitations),i had

also > > > listened to scholars like Late Santhanam(who can never be haste > >

as > > > he has translated the whole BPHS), Subbu Rao, K.C.KeshavaPillai > > >

etc.Keshava pillai has clearly said - Vargas are thinking about > > > divisions

of lagna and planets.The examples i have quoted from > > > parashara too

reveals the same.> > > > > > Thus this does not stop us from answering the

basic question.The > > > lagna shadvargake shloka and Hora.Can we see houses

from HORA as > > per > > > sage Parashara's definition.Can we see aspect as per

the much > > > praised shloka.Thus let us ponder together and answer than

getting > > > over with intelligent interpretations.> > > >

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July 22, 2005

Dear Kid,

I agree with you and Kerala is the state which fostered Horary. There are

another astro giant, the late Purushothaman Namboothiri with his superb books "

Ganitha Nirnayam " and " Prasnanushtana Paddhati", a horary treatise considered

even greater than " Prasna Marga ". When I sent my Horary Software to a person

in Calcutta, she gasped " What is this ". The sw computes Trisphutam, Deva

Sphtam, Mrityu Sphutam, Prana Sputam, Chathu Sphutam, Panch Sphutam. Sookshma

Trisphutam, Aroodha, Veedhi and Chatra Sphtua. Also the Five well known

Formulae of V A Horary ! She was stunned. In other parts of India, these sort

of calculations do not exist. Or the astrologers there do not dive deep into

Horary and analyse Trisphuta and Sookshma Trisphuta

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[vedic astrology] Keralite Astrologers---To Naaraayana Iyer

Dear Iyer,

Your comments are quite un-warranted.Had you been aware of your own glorious

past, perhaps you would not have made such statements.All the well- known as

well as acknowledged astrological scholars are from Kerala, both ancient and

modern. That includes the famous Sangamagrama Madhava, who using his theorem of

"infinite series" , gave mathematical way to find out the circumference of a

circle for the first time in the world ,centuries before Scotish Mathematician

James Gregory and the German born philosopher cum mathematician Laibnitse

arrived at the same.Further, Madhava gave in his monumental

treatise"Venuaroham" the method to calculate the accurate position of Moon for

every 36 minutes.The famous "Prasnamarga", considered to be the Bible of horary

had its genesis in Kerala.Varaha's "Brihatjathaka" popularly known as "Hora" as

maximum number of translation in Malayalam Language.The Keralite astrologers are

well Known for their expertise in "Devaprasna"an exclusive horary practised

widely in Kerala.Keralite astrologers like Machat Illayathu were respected and

even honoured by fundamentalist muslim invaders like Tippu Sultan.The

person(anonymous) who wrote the famous "Nauka" is believed to be a keralite..

In Kerala there is a caste/community assigned exclusively for horoscope making

and delineation.The famous Alan Leo of the west came to Kerala to learn

astrology during the turn of the last centuryThe contemporary writers in

Jyotish including Chandrahari of Ttue ayanamsha fame, K Surendran, the elite

contribitor of the Astrological Magazine, V S Kalayanaraman IPS(Retd), who use

to pen articles in the astrological Magazine in the name Bhaskaradasan, VSK

,Veeyeskay, Utpala , Mihira etc are all Keralite astrologers.You should

remember that Kerala is the only place in the world repeat world, where

communist came to power through ballot box and not bloody revolution Against

the backdrop of the strong leftist moorings and psychological and cultural

warfare by the missionaries and the Islamic fundamentalist against hinduism in

general and astrology in particular, astrologers of kerala never lagged behind

either in propogation or in the predictive side of Jyotish., though they seldom

run to the media to tom tom their success in predictions