Guest guest Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are: Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977 TOB: 10:20 am Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 minutes north) India Thanks -Avin vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> wrote: > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members, > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = exalted > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same. > > My questions are: > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it were > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? Also, > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of this > parivartana ? > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I would > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets. > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets. > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what is so > special about stationary planets ? > > Thankyou > -Avin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Avin, In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co-borns still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I have written an article about this almost a year back to this and Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.avin6dl <avin6dl > wrote: I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are:Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977TOB: 10:20 amPlace: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 minutes north)IndiaThanks -Avinvedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> wrote:> > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members,> > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = exalted > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same.> > My questions are:> > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it were > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? Also, > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of this > parivartana ?> > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I would > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets.> > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets.> > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what is so > special about stationary planets ?> > Thankyou > -AvinArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages Only in Mail: http://in.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 RamdasJi, Pranaam, In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming I do not live upto 109 years :-) Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how does it manifest in real life. Regards, Ashish vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Avin, > In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co-borns still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I have written an article about this almost a year back to this and Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become > direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection. > I hope this helps you. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote: > I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are: > > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977 > TOB: 10:20 am > Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > minutes north) > India > > Thanks > -Avin > > vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > wrote: > > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members, > > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > exalted > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same. > > > > My questions are: > > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > were > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > Also, > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > this > > parivartana ? > > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > would > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets. > > > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets. > > > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what is > so > > special about stationary planets ? > > > > Thankyou > > -Avin > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages > Only in Mail: http://in.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Ashish Ji, That is what I wanted.Your Karmic connection in this life is with your mother,children,intelligence etc.Now you said at 109 years of age,Shani will become direct.But further to my research,around the age between 38 and 42 ie., about 35 to 40% of completed Karmic debts,you will see there are some prosperity will be seen in your life and when you reach about the age of 53 ie 50% of completion of Karmic debts, you will see that you have prospered very well.Just wait and see my prediction. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.ashish25mathur <mathurastro > wrote: RamdasJi,Pranaam,In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming I do not live upto 109 years :-)Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how does it manifest in real life.Regards,Ashish--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Avin,> In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co-borns still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I have written an article about this almost a year back to this and Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become> direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection.> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote:> I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are:> > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977> TOB: 10:20 am> Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > minutes north)> India> > Thanks > -Avin> > --- In vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > wrote:> > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members,> > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > exalted > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same.> > > > My questions are:> > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > were > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > Also, > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > this > > parivartana ?> > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > would > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets.> > > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets.> > > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what is > so > > special about stationary planets ?> > > > Thankyou > > -Avin> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages> Only in Mail: http://in.mail.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... How much free photo storage do you get? Store your friends n family photos for FREE with Photos. http://in.photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Namaste Raoji, Could you please refer to the link to the article where you discuss about retro grahas becoming direct in a kundali. Thanks .... On 7/15/05, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Ashish Ji, > That is what I wanted.Your Karmic connection in this life is with your > mother,children,intelligence etc.Now you said at 109 years of age,Shani will > become direct.But further to my research,around the age between 38 and 42 > ie., about 35 to 40% of completed Karmic debts,you will see there are some > prosperity will be seen in your life and when you reach about the age of 53 > ie 50% of completion of Karmic debts, you will see that you have prospered > very well.Just wait and see my prediction. > I hope this helps you. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > > ashish25mathur <mathurastro wrote: > RamdasJi, > > Pranaam, > > In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 > days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming > I do not live upto 109 years :-) > > Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how > does it manifest in real life. > > Regards, > > Ashish > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> > wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Avin, > > In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like > as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord > and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own > house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your > chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the > chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating > Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For > example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this > indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co-borns > still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I > have written an article about this almost a year back to this and > Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct > and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by > checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this > Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become > > direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of > such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection. > > I hope this helps you. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote: > > I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are: > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977 > > TOB: 10:20 am > > Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > > minutes north) > > India > > > > Thanks > > -Avin > > > > vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members, > > > > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > > exalted > > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same. > > > > > > My questions are: > > > > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > > were > > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > > Also, > > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > > this > > > parivartana ? > > > > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > > would > > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets. > > > > > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets. > > > > > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what > is > > so > > > special about stationary planets ? > > > > > > Thankyou > > > -Avin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 In my son's chart, PK Jupiter was retrograde in Pisces in 8th house for 95 days after his birth. When do you see the karmic debts for him lessening? Regards,Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Ashish Ji, That is what I wanted.Your Karmic connection in this life is with your mother,children,intelligence etc.Now you said at 109 years of age,Shani will become direct.But further to my research,around the age between 38 and 42 ie., about 35 to 40% of completed Karmic debts,you will see there are some prosperity will be seen in your life and when you reach about the age of 53 ie 50% of completion of Karmic debts, you will see that you have prospered very well.Just wait and see my prediction. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Energumen-----Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 This is in addition to the mail below on retrograde planets. In the following chart : Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house of saturn.Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house.Does this implies that native has karmic relations with 2nd house related.The other thought process was that since saturn is retrograde in 7th house, person has love debts from past birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life.Which one is more appropriate and why? Personal Details Lagan(Ascendent) Capricornus Lagan Swami(Ascendent Lord) Satn Rashi(Moon Sign) Aquarius Rashi Swami(Moon Sign Lord) Satn Nakshatra(Constellation) Dhanishtha Nakshatra Swami(Constellation Lord) Mars Charan 4 Yoga Vajra Karan Bava Janam Namakshar(Birth Name Character) GE Surya Rashi(Sun Sign) Capricornus Varana Vaishya Vashya Manav Yoni Simha Gana Rakshasa Nadi Madhya Varga Bilava Planetary Positions Planet Dir/Ret Speed Degrees Sign Ascendant ---- ---- 15°48'0'' Capricornus Sun Dir 0°34'26'' 9°59'22'' Sagittarius Moon Dir 6°42'44'' 3°45'18'' Aquarius Mars Dir 22°16'0'' 1°22'20'' Sagittarius Mercury Dir 15°1'17'' 29°0'7'' Sagittarius Jupiter Ret 2°8'18'' 28°24'20'' Aries Venus Dir 4°29'14'' 24°43'22'' Capricornus Saturn Ret 1°27'20'' 22°39'20'' Cancer Rahu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Libra Ketu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Aries Uranus Dir 1°18'38'' 17°3'51'' Libra Neptune Dir 1°4'57'' 20°52'23'' Scorpio Pluto Dir 0°23'21'' 20°30'30'' Virgo ashish25mathur <mathurastro > wrote: RamdasJi,Pranaam,In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming I do not live upto 109 years :-)Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how does it manifest in real life.Regards,Ashish--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Avin,> In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co-borns still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I have written an article about this almost a year back to this and Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become> direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection.> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote:> I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are:> > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977> TOB: 10:20 am> Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > minutes north)> India> > Thanks > -Avin> > --- In vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > wrote:> > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members,> > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > exalted > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same.> > > > My questions are:> > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > were > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > Also, > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > this > > parivartana ?> > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > would > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets.> > > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets.> > > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what is > so > > special about stationary planets ?> > > > Thankyou > > -Avin> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages> Only in Mail: http://in.mail.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Energumen, What is the lordship of Guru in your son's chart ? Then as per your statement,if the longevity is good then, after 33 to 35 years of age,the Karmic debts connected with Guru's lordship will reduce and his prosperity will be seen.Exactly at about 47 and half years of age,his prosperity will be at its peak. Please give me feedback. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Energumen <vernalagnia > wrote: Dear Ramadas, In my son's chart, PK Jupiter was retrograde in Pisces in 8th house for 95 days after his birth. When do you see the karmic debts for him lessening? Regards,Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Ashish Ji, That is what I wanted.Your Karmic connection in this life is with your mother,children,intelligence etc.Now you said at 109 years of age,Shani will become direct.But further to my research,around the age between 38 and 42 ie., about 35 to 40% of completed Karmic debts,you will see there are some prosperity will be seen in your life and when you reach about the age of 53 ie 50% of completion of Karmic debts, you will see that you have prospered very well.Just wait and see my prediction. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Energumen-----Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Too much spam in your inbox? Mail gives you the best spam protection for FREE!http://in.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Pooja Rajdev, Now in the chart given Shani (V) is the lord of Lagna and 2nd house.2nd house is Kutumba Sthana but as Shani (V) is placed in 7th,the Karmic debts are connected with his marriage, love etc.Also as Chandra is in 2nd house, there are Karmic debts connected with his mother. I hope this helps. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja > wrote: Ramadasji, This is in addition to the mail below on retrograde planets. In the following chart : Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house of saturn.Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house.Does this implies that native has karmic relations with 2nd house related.The other thought process was that since saturn is retrograde in 7th house, person has love debts from past birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life.Which one is more appropriate and why? Personal Details Lagan(Ascendent) Capricornus Lagan Swami(Ascendent Lord) Satn Rashi(Moon Sign) Aquarius Rashi Swami(Moon Sign Lord) Satn Nakshatra(Constellation) Dhanishtha Nakshatra Swami(Constellation Lord) Mars Charan 4 Yoga Vajra Karan Bava Janam Namakshar(Birth Name Character) GE Surya Rashi(Sun Sign) Capricornus Varana Vaishya Vashya Manav Yoni Simha Gana Rakshasa Nadi Madhya Varga Bilava Planetary Positions Planet Dir/Ret Speed Degrees Sign Ascendant ---- ---- 15°48'0'' Capricornus Sun Dir 0°34'26'' 9°59'22'' Sagittarius Moon Dir 6°42'44'' 3°45'18'' Aquarius Mars Dir 22°16'0'' 1°22'20'' Sagittarius Mercury Dir 15°1'17'' 29°0'7'' Sagittarius Jupiter Ret 2°8'18'' 28°24'20'' Aries Venus Dir 4°29'14'' 24°43'22'' Capricornus Saturn Ret 1°27'20'' 22°39'20'' Cancer Rahu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Libra Ketu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Aries Uranus Dir 1°18'38'' 17°3'51'' Libra Neptune Dir 1°4'57'' 20°52'23'' Scorpio Pluto Dir 0°23'21'' 20°30'30'' Virgo ashish25mathur <mathurastro > wrote: RamdasJi,Pranaam,In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming I do not live upto 109 years :-)Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how does it manifest in real life.Regards,Ashish--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Avin,> In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co-borns still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I have written an article about this almost a year back to this and Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become> direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection.> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote:> I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are:> > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977> TOB: 10:20 am> Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > minutes north)> India> > Thanks > -Avin> > --- In vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > wrote:> > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members,> > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > exalted > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same.> > > > My questions are:> > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > were > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > Also, > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > this > > parivartana ?> > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > would > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets.> > > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets.> > > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what is > so > > special about stationary planets ?> > > > Thankyou > > -Avin> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages> Only in Mail: http://in.mail.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Thanks for the update. Just to clarify further, karmic debts related to mother are related to moon or jupiter retrograde in 4th house. And what r the impacts of rahu and ketu as they are also retrograde. Does this also implies that the native will have different pay back time period in each case or will it be parallel? Also to add both the conclusions are correct. Regards,Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Pooja Rajdev, Now in the chart given Shani (V) is the lord of Lagna and 2nd house.2nd house is Kutumba Sthana but as Shani (V) is placed in 7th,the Karmic debts are connected with his marriage, love etc.Also as Chandra is in 2nd house, there are Karmic debts connected with his mother. I hope this helps. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja > wrote: Ramadasji, This is in addition to the mail below on retrograde planets. In the following chart : Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house of saturn.Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house.Does this implies that native has karmic relations with 2nd house related.The other thought process was that since saturn is retrograde in 7th house, person has love debts from past birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life.Which one is more appropriate and why? Personal Details Lagan(Ascendent) Capricornus Lagan Swami(Ascendent Lord) Satn Rashi(Moon Sign) Aquarius Rashi Swami(Moon Sign Lord) Satn Nakshatra(Constellation) Dhanishtha Nakshatra Swami(Constellation Lord) Mars Charan 4 Yoga Vajra Karan Bava Janam Namakshar(Birth Name Character) GE Surya Rashi(Sun Sign) Capricornus Varana Vaishya Vashya Manav Yoni Simha Gana Rakshasa Nadi Madhya Varga Bilava Planetary Positions Planet Dir/Ret Speed Degrees Sign Ascendant ---- ---- 15°48'0'' Capricornus Sun Dir 0°34'26'' 9°59'22'' Sagittarius Moon Dir 6°42'44'' 3°45'18'' Aquarius Mars Dir 22°16'0'' 1°22'20'' Sagittarius Mercury Dir 15°1'17'' 29°0'7'' Sagittarius Jupiter Ret 2°8'18'' 28°24'20'' Aries Venus Dir 4°29'14'' 24°43'22'' Capricornus Saturn Ret 1°27'20'' 22°39'20'' Cancer Rahu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Libra Ketu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Aries Uranus Dir 1°18'38'' 17°3'51'' Libra Neptune Dir 1°4'57'' 20°52'23'' Scorpio Pluto Dir 0°23'21'' 20°30'30'' Virgo ashish25mathur <mathurastro > wrote: RamdasJi,Pranaam,In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming I do not live upto 109 years :-)Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how does it manifest in real life.Regards,Ashish--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Avin,> In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co-borns still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I have written an article about this almost a year back to this and Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become> direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection.> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote:> I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are:> > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977> TOB: 10:20 am> Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > minutes north)> India> > Thanks > -Avin> > --- In vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > wrote:> > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members,> > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > exalted > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same.> > > > My questions are:> > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > were > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > Also, > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > this > > parivartana ?> > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > would > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets.> > > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets.> > > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what is > so > > special about stationary planets ?> > > > Thankyou > > -Avin> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages> Only in Mail: http://in.mail.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Respected Ramadasji, Thanks for the update. Just to clarify further, karmic debts related to mother are related to moon or jupiter retrograde in 4th house. And what r the impacts of rahu and ketu as they are also retrograde. Does this also implies that the native will have different pay back time period in each case or will it be parallel? Also to add both the conclusions are correct. Regards,Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Pooja Rajdev, Now in the chart given Shani (V) is the lord of Lagna and 2nd house.2nd house is Kutumba Sthana but as Shani (V) is placed in 7th,the Karmic debts are connected with his marriage, love etc.Also as Chandra is in 2nd house, there are Karmic debts connected with his mother. I hope this helps. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja > wrote: Ramadasji, This is in addition to the mail below on retrograde planets. In the following chart : Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house of saturn.Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house.Does this implies that native has karmic relations with 2nd house related.The other thought process was that since saturn is retrograde in 7th house, person has love debts from past birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life.Which one is more appropriate and why? Personal Details Lagan(Ascendent) Capricornus Lagan Swami(Ascendent Lord) Satn Rashi(Moon Sign) Aquarius Rashi Swami(Moon Sign Lord) Satn Nakshatra(Constellation) Dhanishtha Nakshatra Swami(Constellation Lord) Mars Charan 4 Yoga Vajra Karan Bava Janam Namakshar(Birth Name Character) GE Surya Rashi(Sun Sign) Capricornus Varana Vaishya Vashya Manav Yoni Simha Gana Rakshasa Nadi Madhya Varga Bilava Planetary Positions Planet Dir/Ret Speed Degrees Sign Ascendant ---- ---- 15°48'0'' Capricornus Sun Dir 0°34'26'' 9°59'22'' Sagittarius Moon Dir 6°42'44'' 3°45'18'' Aquarius Mars Dir 22°16'0'' 1°22'20'' Sagittarius Mercury Dir 15°1'17'' 29°0'7'' Sagittarius Jupiter Ret 2°8'18'' 28°24'20'' Aries Venus Dir 4°29'14'' 24°43'22'' Capricornus Saturn Ret 1°27'20'' 22°39'20'' Cancer Rahu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Libra Ketu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Aries Uranus Dir 1°18'38'' 17°3'51'' Libra Neptune Dir 1°4'57'' 20°52'23'' Scorpio Pluto Dir 0°23'21'' 20°30'30'' Virgo ashish25mathur <mathurastro > wrote: RamdasJi,Pranaam,In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming I do not live upto 109 years :-)Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how does it manifest in real life.Regards,Ashish--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Avin,> In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co-borns still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I have written an article about this almost a year back to this and Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become> direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection.> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote:> I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are:> > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977> TOB: 10:20 am> Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > minutes north)> India> > Thanks > -Avin> > --- In vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > wrote:> > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members,> > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > exalted > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same.> > > > My questions are:> > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > were > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > Also, > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > this > > parivartana ?> > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > would > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets.> > > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets.> > > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what is > so > > special about stationary planets ?> > > > Thankyou > > -Avin> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages> Only in Mail: http://in.mail.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 In this example, you have used placement of Shani in 7th to deduct that the debts are related to marriage, love etc, while in previous example you have used lordship of the retrograde planet to indicate the karmic debt connection. Which one to use - placement or lordship? or both Regards Raj POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja > wrote: Respected Ramadasji, Thanks for the update. Just to clarify further, karmic debts related to mother are related to moon or jupiter retrograde in 4th house. And what r the impacts of rahu and ketu as they are also retrograde. Does this also implies that the native will have different pay back time period in each case or will it be parallel? Also to add both the conclusions are correct. Regards,Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Pooja Rajdev, Now in the chart given Shani (V) is the lord of Lagna and 2nd house.2nd house is Kutumba Sthana but as Shani (V) is placed in 7th,the Karmic debts are connected with his marriage, love etc.Also as Chandra is in 2nd house, there are Karmic debts connected with his mother. I hope this helps. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja > wrote: Ramadasji, This is in addition to the mail below on retrograde planets. In the following chart : Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house of saturn.Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house.Does this implies that native has karmic relations with 2nd house related.The other thought process was that since saturn is retrograde in 7th house, person has love debts from past birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life.Which one is more appropriate and why? Personal Details Lagan(Ascendent) Capricornus Lagan Swami(Ascendent Lord) Satn Rashi(Moon Sign) Aquarius Rashi Swami(Moon Sign Lord) Satn Nakshatra(Constellation) Dhanishtha Nakshatra Swami(Constellation Lord) Mars Charan 4 Yoga Vajra Karan Bava Janam Namakshar(Birth Name Character) GE Surya Rashi(Sun Sign) Capricornus Varana Vaishya Vashya Manav Yoni Simha Gana Rakshasa Nadi Madhya Varga Bilava Planetary Positions Planet Dir/Ret Speed Degrees Sign Ascendant ---- ---- 15°48'0'' Capricornus Sun Dir 0°34'26'' 9°59'22'' Sagittarius Moon Dir 6°42'44'' 3°45'18'' Aquarius Mars Dir 22°16'0'' 1°22'20'' Sagittarius Mercury Dir 15°1'17'' 29°0'7'' Sagittarius Jupiter Ret 2°8'18'' 28°24'20'' Aries Venus Dir 4°29'14'' 24°43'22'' Capricornus Saturn Ret 1°27'20'' 22°39'20'' Cancer Rahu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Libra Ketu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Aries Uranus Dir 1°18'38'' 17°3'51'' Libra Neptune Dir 1°4'57'' 20°52'23'' Scorpio Pluto Dir 0°23'21'' 20°30'30'' Virgo ashish25mathur <mathurastro > wrote: RamdasJi,Pranaam,In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming I do not live upto 109 years :-)Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how does it manifest in real life.Regards,Ashish--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Avin,> In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co-borns still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I have written an article about this almost a year back to this and Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become> direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection.> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote:> I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are:> > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977> TOB: 10:20 am> Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > minutes north)> India> > Thanks > -Avin> > --- In vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > wrote:> > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members,> > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > exalted > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same.> > > > My questions are:> > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > were > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > Also, > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > this > > parivartana ?> > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > would > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets.> > > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets.> > > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what is > so > > special about stationary planets ?> > > > Thankyou > > -Avin> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages> Only in Mail: http://in.mail.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Pandit Ji, may be about 2 years before I wrote an article about this and taking example of Mr.Brenden Feeley,I have explained to the list and Varaha Mihira List.The date now I have forgotten. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Panditji <navagraha > wrote: Namaste Raoji,Could you please refer to the link to the article where you discussabout retro grahas becoming direct in a kundali.Thanks...On 7/15/05, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Ashish Ji,> That is what I wanted.Your Karmic connection in this life is with your> mother,children,intelligence etc.Now you said at 109 years of age,Shani will> become direct.But further to my research,around the age between 38 and 42> ie., about 35 to 40% of completed Karmic debts,you will see there are some> prosperity will be seen in your life and when you reach about the age of 53> ie 50% of completion of Karmic debts, you will see that you have prospered> very well.Just wait and see my prediction.> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > > ashish25mathur <mathurastro > wrote:> RamdasJi,> > Pranaam,> > In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 > days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming > I do not live upto 109 years :-)> > Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how > does it manifest in real life.> > Regards,> > Ashish> > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> > wrote:> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Avin,> > In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like > as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord > and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own > house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your > chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the > chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating > Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For > example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this > indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co-borns > still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I > have written an article about this almost a year back to this and > Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct > and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by > checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this > Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become> > direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of > such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection.> > I hope this helps you.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote:> > I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are:> > > > > > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977> > TOB: 10:20 am> > Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > > minutes north)> > India> > > > Thanks > > -Avin> > > > vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members,> > > > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > > exalted > > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same.> > > > > > My questions are:> > > > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > > were > > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > > Also, > > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > > this > > > parivartana ?> > > > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > > would > > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets.> > > > > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets.> > > > > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what > is > > so > > > special about stationary planets ?> > > > > > Thankyou > > > -Avin> > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info:> vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Pooja Rajdev, The Karmic debts related to mother is because of Guru (V) in 4th house.Also you can see Ketu is also there indicating Moksha Karya of your mother's close relative is pending.Rahu and Ketu are always retrograde.Because of them only we all take birth and perform our Karmic debts.They are called Karmic planets.Rahu gives us desire and Ketu renunciates it and between them we are hanging with our lives.All our desires are from Rahu who has got only head and we try to achieve our desires or goals in our life till the end and finally Ketu takes our life to the next life depending on how much good and bad Karmas we have done in this life.This is a very big subject to discuss. I have explained in brief. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja > wrote: Respected Ramadasji, Thanks for the update. Just to clarify further, karmic debts related to mother are related to moon or jupiter retrograde in 4th house. And what r the impacts of rahu and ketu as they are also retrograde. Does this also implies that the native will have different pay back time period in each case or will it be parallel? Also to add both the conclusions are correct. Regards,Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Pooja Rajdev, Now in the chart given Shani (V) is the lord of Lagna and 2nd house.2nd house is Kutumba Sthana but as Shani (V) is placed in 7th,the Karmic debts are connected with his marriage, love etc.Also as Chandra is in 2nd house, there are Karmic debts connected with his mother. I hope this helps. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja > wrote: Ramadasji, This is in addition to the mail below on retrograde planets. In the following chart : Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house of saturn.Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house.Does this implies that native has karmic relations with 2nd house related.The other thought process was that since saturn is retrograde in 7th house, person has love debts from past birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life.Which one is more appropriate and why? Personal Details Lagan(Ascendent) Capricornus Lagan Swami(Ascendent Lord) Satn Rashi(Moon Sign) Aquarius Rashi Swami(Moon Sign Lord) Satn Nakshatra(Constellation) Dhanishtha Nakshatra Swami(Constellation Lord) Mars Charan 4 Yoga Vajra Karan Bava Janam Namakshar(Birth Name Character) GE Surya Rashi(Sun Sign) Capricornus Varana Vaishya Vashya Manav Yoni Simha Gana Rakshasa Nadi Madhya Varga Bilava Planetary Positions Planet Dir/Ret Speed Degrees Sign Ascendant ---- ---- 15°48'0'' Capricornus Sun Dir 0°34'26'' 9°59'22'' Sagittarius Moon Dir 6°42'44'' 3°45'18'' Aquarius Mars Dir 22°16'0'' 1°22'20'' Sagittarius Mercury Dir 15°1'17'' 29°0'7'' Sagittarius Jupiter Ret 2°8'18'' 28°24'20'' Aries Venus Dir 4°29'14'' 24°43'22'' Capricornus Saturn Ret 1°27'20'' 22°39'20'' Cancer Rahu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Libra Ketu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Aries Uranus Dir 1°18'38'' 17°3'51'' Libra Neptune Dir 1°4'57'' 20°52'23'' Scorpio Pluto Dir 0°23'21'' 20°30'30'' Virgo ashish25mathur <mathurastro > wrote: RamdasJi,Pranaam,In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming I do not live upto 109 years :-)Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how does it manifest in real life.Regards,Ashish--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Avin,> In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co-borns still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I have written an article about this almost a year back to this and Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become> direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection.> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote:> I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are:> > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977> TOB: 10:20 am> Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > minutes north)> India> > Thanks > -Avin> > --- In vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > wrote:> > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members,> > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > exalted > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same.> > > > My questions are:> > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > were > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > Also, > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > this > > parivartana ?> > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > would > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets.> > > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets.> > > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what is > so > > special about stationary planets ?> > > > Thankyou > > -Avin> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages> Only in Mail: http://in.mail.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Dear Ramdas ji, I have two very trivial questions and would be grateful if you or any other member can answer them, 1.) I have looked at all the "files" in this egroup and I am not able to locate the file that you mentioned about retrograde planets. If you have that file handy, can you please send it again to the group, as you can see that quite a large number of people are interested in knowing more about retrograde planets. 2.) You said that I can calculate the number of days a retro planet takes to become direct again and that many number of years will it take to pay off the past karmic debts. I understand that this method of calculating the number of days (from panchanga,as u said) may be very easy to do. But I am sorry I just dont know how to do those calcualations (or where to read it from). Now, I would highly appreciate if you could either tell me the methodology, or if it requires the use of some books then can you please let me know the answers for my particular chart. (as I dont have any access to books here). My chart agin is: Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977 TOB: 10:20 am Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 minutes north) India and the info I would like: How many days does it take for the following retro planets to become direct again: Mars, Mercury, Saturn, Jupiter. Thankyou very much -Avin vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Pooja Rajdev, > The Karmic debts related to mother is because of Guru (V) in 4th house.Also you can see Ketu is also there indicating Moksha Karya of your mother's close relative is pending.Rahu and Ketu are always retrograde.Because of them only we all take birth and perform our Karmic debts.They are called Karmic planets.Rahu gives us desire and Ketu renunciates it and between them we are hanging with our lives.All our desires are from Rahu who has got only head and we try to achieve our desires or goals in our life till the end and finally Ketu takes our life to the next life depending on how much good and bad Karmas we have done in this life.This is a very big subject to discuss. > I have explained in brief. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote: > Respected Ramadasji, > > Thanks for the update. > Just to clarify further, karmic debts related to mother are related to moon or jupiter retrograde in 4th house. > And what r the impacts of rahu and ketu as they are also retrograde. > Does this also implies that the native will have different pay back time period in each case or will it be parallel? > > Also to add both the conclusions are correct. > > Regards, > > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Pooja Rajdev, > Now in the chart given Shani (V) is the lord of Lagna and 2nd house.2nd house is Kutumba Sthana but as Shani (V) is placed in 7th,the Karmic debts are connected with his marriage, love etc.Also as Chandra is in 2nd house, there are Karmic debts connected with his mother. > I hope this helps. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote: > Ramadasji, > > This is in addition to the mail below on retrograde planets. > > In the following chart : > Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house of saturn. > Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house. > Does this implies that native has karmic relations with 2nd house related. > The other thought process was that since saturn is retrograde in 7th house, person has love debts > from past birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life. > Which one is more appropriate and why? > > > > > > Personal DetailsLagan(Ascendent)CapricornusLagan Swami(Ascendent Lord)SatnRashi(Moon Sign)AquariusRashi Swami(Moon Sign Lord) SatnNakshatra(Constellation)DhanishthaNakshatra Swami(Constellation Lord)MarsCharan4YogaVajraKaranBavaJanam Namakshar(Birth Name Character)GESurya Rashi(Sun Sign) CapricornusVaranaVaishyaVashyaManavYoniSimhaGanaRakshasaNadiMadhyaVar gaBilava > > Planetary PositionsPlanetDir/RetSpeedDegreesSignAscendant -------- 15°48'0''CapricornusSunDir0°34'26''9°59'22''SagittariusMoonDir6° 42'44''3°45'18''AquariusMarsDir22°16'0''1° 22'20''SagittariusMercuryDir15°1'17''29°0'7''SagittariusJupiterRet2° 8'18''28°24'20''AriesVenusDir4°29'14''24° 43'22''CapricornusSaturnRet1°27'20''22°39'20''CancerRahuRet1° 35'19''6°42'27''LibraKetuRet1°35'19''6°42'27''AriesUranusDir1° 18'38''17°3'51''LibraNeptuneDir1°4'57''20°52'23''ScorpioPlutoDir0° 23'21''20°30'30''Virgo > > ashish25mathur <mathurastro@g...> wrote: > RamdasJi, > > Pranaam, > > In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 > days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming > I do not live upto 109 years :-) > > Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how > does it manifest in real life. > > Regards, > > Ashish > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> > wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Avin, > > In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like > as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord > and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own > house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your > chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the > chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating > Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For > example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this > indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co- borns > still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I > have written an article about this almost a year back to this and > Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct > and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by > checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this > Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become > > direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of > such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection. > > I hope this helps you. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote: > > I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are: > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977 > > TOB: 10:20 am > > Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > > minutes north) > > India > > > > Thanks > > -Avin > > > > vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members, > > > > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > > exalted > > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same. > > > > > > My questions are: > > > > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > > were > > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > > Also, > > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > > this > > > parivartana ? > > > > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > > would > > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets. > > > > > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets. > > > > > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what > is > > so > > > special about stationary planets ? > > > > > > Thankyou > > > -Avin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages > > Only in Mail: http://in.mail. > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Avin, If the article is not available in VA list,then it must be in Varaha Mihira list but to enter into that list, you must be a Shishya or a Jyotish Guru.I have written about Retrograde planets some 2 years before. Now I give you a simple method.You can buy Lahiri's Ephimeris for 100 years and check for the planetary positions for that particular.Still simplified, you can download JH 7.02 from Chi. Narasimha's website and there is a window about transit and you can just put the date ,month etc.and see when the retrograde planet becomes direct.Then count the days.Now count so many years and after that year only the retrograde planet becomes directie., the Karmic debt related to that planet will complete.But you can see that after about 35 % of the total years allotted for that planet,you can find there is slow prosperity as Karmic debt is being reduced. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.avin6dl <avin6dl > wrote: Dear Ramdas ji,I have two very trivial questions and would be grateful if you or any other member can answer them,1.) I have looked at all the "files" in this egroup and I am not able to locate the file that you mentioned about retrograde planets. If you have that file handy, can you please send it again to the group, as you can see that quite a large number of people are interested in knowing more about retrograde planets.2.) You said that I can calculate the number of days a retro planet takes to become direct again and that many number of years will it take to pay off the past karmic debts. I understand that this method of calculating the number of days (from panchanga,as u said) may be very easy to do. But I am sorry I just dont know how to do those calcualations (or where to read it from). Now, I would highly appreciate if you could either tell me the methodology, or if it requires the use of some books then can you please let me know the answers for my particular chart. (as I dont have any access to books here).My chart agin is:Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977TOB: 10:20 amPlace: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 minutes north)India and the info I would like:How many days does it take for the following retro planets to become direct again:Mars, Mercury, Saturn, Jupiter.Thankyou very much-Avin--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Pooja Rajdev,> The Karmic debts related to mother is because of Guru (V) in 4th house.Also you can see Ketu is also there indicating Moksha Karya of your mother's close relative is pending.Rahu and Ketu are always retrograde.Because of them only we all take birth and perform our Karmic debts.They are called Karmic planets.Rahu gives us desire and Ketu renunciates it and between them we are hanging with our lives.All our desires are from Rahu who has got only head and we try to achieve our desires or goals in our life till the end and finally Ketu takes our life to the next life depending on how much good and bad Karmas we have done in this life.This is a very big subject to discuss.> I have explained in brief.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote:> Respected Ramadasji,> > Thanks for the update.> Just to clarify further, karmic debts related to mother are related to moon or jupiter retrograde in 4th house.> And what r the impacts of rahu and ketu as they are also retrograde.> Does this also implies that the native will have different pay back time period in each case or will it be parallel?> > Also to add both the conclusions are correct.> > Regards,> > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Pooja Rajdev,> Now in the chart given Shani (V) is the lord of Lagna and 2nd house.2nd house is Kutumba Sthana but as Shani (V) is placed in 7th,the Karmic debts are connected with his marriage, love etc.Also as Chandra is in 2nd house, there are Karmic debts connected with his mother.> I hope this helps.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote:> Ramadasji,> > This is in addition to the mail below on retrograde planets.> > In the following chart :> Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house of saturn.> Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house.> Does this implies that native has karmic relations with 2nd house related.> The other thought process was that since saturn is retrograde in 7th house, person has love debts > from past birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life.> Which one is more appropriate and why?> > > > > > Personal DetailsLagan(Ascendent)CapricornusLagan Swami(Ascendent Lord)SatnRashi(Moon Sign)AquariusRashi Swami(Moon Sign Lord)SatnNakshatra(Constellation)DhanishthaNakshatra Swami(Constellation Lord)MarsCharan4YogaVajraKaranBavaJanam Namakshar(Birth Name Character)GESurya Rashi(Sun Sign)CapricornusVaranaVaishyaVashyaManavYoniSimhaGanaRakshasaNadiMadhyaVargaBilava> > Planetary PositionsPlanetDir/RetSpeedDegreesSignAscendant --------15°48'0''CapricornusSunDir0°34'26''9°59'22''SagittariusMoonDir6°42'44''3°45'18''AquariusMarsDir22°16'0''1°22'20''SagittariusMercuryDir15°1'17''29°0'7''SagittariusJupiterRet2°8'18''28°24'20''AriesVenusDir4°29'14''24°43'22''CapricornusSaturnRet1°27'20''22°39'20''CancerRahuRet1°35'19''6°42'27''LibraKetuRet1°35'19''6°42'27''AriesUranusDir1°18'38''17°3'51''LibraNeptuneDir1°4'57''20°52'23''ScorpioPlutoDir0°23'21''20°30'30''Virgo> > ashish25mathur <mathurastro@g...> wrote:> RamdasJi,> > Pranaam,> > In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 > days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming > I do not live upto 109 years :-)> > Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how > does it manifest in real life.> > Regards,> > Ashish> > > --- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> > wrote:> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Avin,> > In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like > as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord > and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own > house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your > chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the > chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating > Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For > example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this > indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co-borns > still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I > have written an article about this almost a year back to this and > Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct > and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by > checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this > Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become> > direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of > such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection.> > I hope this helps you.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote:> > I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are:> > > > > > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977> > TOB: 10:20 am> > Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > > minutes north)> > India> > > > Thanks > > -Avin> > > > vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members,> > > > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > > exalted > > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same.> > > > > > My questions are:> > > > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > > were > > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > > Also, > > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > > this > > > parivartana ?> > > > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > > would > > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets.> > > > > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets.> > > > > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what > is > > so > > > special about stationary planets ?> > > > > > Thankyou > > > -Avin> > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Raj Sharma, As Shani is the lord of 2nd house also, placed in 7th house, I have considered both. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Raj Sharma <kngcl > wrote: Dear Ramadas, In this example, you have used placement of Shani in 7th to deduct that the debts are related to marriage, love etc, while in previous example you have used lordship of the retrograde planet to indicate the karmic debt connection. Which one to use - placement or lordship? or both Regards Raj POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja > wrote: Respected Ramadasji, Thanks for the update. Just to clarify further, karmic debts related to mother are related to moon or jupiter retrograde in 4th house. And what r the impacts of rahu and ketu as they are also retrograde. Does this also implies that the native will have different pay back time period in each case or will it be parallel? Also to add both the conclusions are correct. Regards,Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Pooja Rajdev, Now in the chart given Shani (V) is the lord of Lagna and 2nd house.2nd house is Kutumba Sthana but as Shani (V) is placed in 7th,the Karmic debts are connected with his marriage, love etc.Also as Chandra is in 2nd house, there are Karmic debts connected with his mother. I hope this helps. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja > wrote: Ramadasji, This is in addition to the mail below on retrograde planets. In the following chart : Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house of saturn.Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house.Does this implies that native has karmic relations with 2nd house related.The other thought process was that since saturn is retrograde in 7th house, person has love debts from past birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life.Which one is more appropriate and why? Personal Details Lagan(Ascendent) Capricornus Lagan Swami(Ascendent Lord) Satn Rashi(Moon Sign) Aquarius Rashi Swami(Moon Sign Lord) Satn Nakshatra(Constellation) Dhanishtha Nakshatra Swami(Constellation Lord) Mars Charan 4 Yoga Vajra Karan Bava Janam Namakshar(Birth Name Character) GE Surya Rashi(Sun Sign) Capricornus Varana Vaishya Vashya Manav Yoni Simha Gana Rakshasa Nadi Madhya Varga Bilava Planetary Positions Planet Dir/Ret Speed Degrees Sign Ascendant ---- ---- 15°48'0'' Capricornus Sun Dir 0°34'26'' 9°59'22'' Sagittarius Moon Dir 6°42'44'' 3°45'18'' Aquarius Mars Dir 22°16'0'' 1°22'20'' Sagittarius Mercury Dir 15°1'17'' 29°0'7'' Sagittarius Jupiter Ret 2°8'18'' 28°24'20'' Aries Venus Dir 4°29'14'' 24°43'22'' Capricornus Saturn Ret 1°27'20'' 22°39'20'' Cancer Rahu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Libra Ketu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Aries Uranus Dir 1°18'38'' 17°3'51'' Libra Neptune Dir 1°4'57'' 20°52'23'' Scorpio Pluto Dir 0°23'21'' 20°30'30'' Virgo ashish25mathur <mathurastro > wrote: RamdasJi,Pranaam,In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming I do not live upto 109 years :-)Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how does it manifest in real life.Regards,Ashish--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Avin,> In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co-borns still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I have written an article about this almost a year back to this and Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become> direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection.> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote:> I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are:> > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977> TOB: 10:20 am> Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > minutes north)> India> > Thanks > -Avin> > --- In vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > wrote:> > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members,> > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > exalted > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same.> > > > My questions are:> > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > were > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > Also, > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > this > > parivartana ?> > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > would > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets.> > > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets.> > > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what is > so > > special about stationary planets ?> > > > Thankyou > > -Avin> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages> Only in Mail: http://in.mail.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Dear learned members, The question of exaltation+Retro = debiliaton and vice versa is worth pondering over. if we are using the equation exalted+retro = debilitated, then do the rules of neechabhanga apply to that planet?. Retrogression is said to impart strength( chestha bala) to the planet. So it is kind of contradiction when we say that exalted+retro = debilitated. Another point for deliberation is that why only exalted and retro are debilitated.. why not retrograde planets posited in own house. Keeping in mind the dictum that benefic retrograde planets are said to bestow good results on the native, here one may have to then differentiate the retrogression( and possibly exal+retro= deb. equation) between Jup,venus,Mer and Sat,Mars. Also overall state of a planet should be the final say taking into account the Avasthas,rays of the planet, instead of merely focusing on one aspect. A debilitated planet full of bright rays is said to confer raja yoga. In my opinion, if a planet is strong in shad bala but debilitated due to being "retrograde and exalted" would still confer good results, if it is lord of good houses. with regards GS P.S: Shri Ramadas Raoji, can you please furnish the birth details of the natives( if possible) where exalted and retrograde planets give results akin to debiliated planets for further research. Thanks vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Raj Sharma, > As Shani is the lord of 2nd house also, placed in 7th house, I have considered both. > I hope this helps you. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > Raj Sharma <kngcl> wrote: > Dear Ramadas, > > In this example, you have used placement of Shani in 7th to deduct that the debts are related to marriage, love etc, while in previous example you have used lordship of the retrograde planet to indicate the karmic debt connection. > > Which one to use - placement or lordship? or both > > Regards > > Raj > > > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote: > Respected Ramadasji, > > Thanks for the update. > Just to clarify further, karmic debts related to mother are related to moon or jupiter retrograde in 4th house. > And what r the impacts of rahu and ketu as they are also retrograde. > Does this also implies that the native will have different pay back time period in each case or will it be parallel? > > Also to add both the conclusions are correct. > > Regards, > > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Pooja Rajdev, > Now in the chart given Shani (V) is the lord of Lagna and 2nd house.2nd house is Kutumba Sthana but as Shani (V) is placed in 7th,the Karmic debts are connected with his marriage, love etc.Also as Chandra is in 2nd house, there are Karmic debts connected with his mother. > I hope this helps. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote: > Ramadasji, > > This is in addition to the mail below on retrograde planets. > > In the following chart : > Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house of saturn. > Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house. > Does this implies that native has karmic relations with 2nd house related. > The other thought process was that since saturn is retrograde in 7th house, person has love debts > from past birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life. > Which one is more appropriate and why? > > > > > > Personal DetailsLagan(Ascendent)CapricornusLagan Swami(Ascendent Lord)SatnRashi(Moon Sign)AquariusRashi Swami(Moon Sign Lord) SatnNakshatra(Constellation)DhanishthaNakshatra Swami(Constellation Lord)MarsCharan4YogaVajraKaranBavaJanam Namakshar(Birth Name Character)GESurya Rashi(Sun Sign) CapricornusVaranaVaishyaVashyaManavYoniSimhaGanaRakshasaNadiMadhyaVarg aBilava > > Planetary PositionsPlanetDir/RetSpeedDegreesSignAscendant -------- 15°48'0''CapricornusSunDir0°34'26''9°59'22''SagittariusMoonDir6° 42'44''3°45'18''AquariusMarsDir22°16'0''1° 22'20''SagittariusMercuryDir15°1'17''29°0'7''SagittariusJupiterRet2° 8'18''28°24'20''AriesVenusDir4°29'14''24°43'22''CapricornusSaturnRet1° 27'20''22°39'20''CancerRahuRet1°35'19''6°42'27''LibraKetuRet1° 35'19''6°42'27''AriesUranusDir1°18'38''17°3'51''LibraNeptuneDir1° 4'57''20°52'23''ScorpioPlutoDir0°23'21''20°30'30''Virgo > > ashish25mathur <mathurastro@g...> wrote: > RamdasJi, > > Pranaam, > > In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 > days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming > I do not live upto 109 years :-) > > Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how > does it manifest in real life. > > Regards, > > Ashish > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> > wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Avin, > > In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like > as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord > and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own > house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your > chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the > chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating > Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For > example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this > indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co- borns > still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I > have written an article about this almost a year back to this and > Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct > and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by > checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this > Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become > > direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of > such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection. > > I hope this helps you. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote: > > I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are: > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977 > > TOB: 10:20 am > > Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > > minutes north) > > India > > > > Thanks > > -Avin > > > > vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members, > > > > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > > exalted > > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same. > > > > > > My questions are: > > > > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > > were > > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > > Also, > > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > > this > > > parivartana ? > > > > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > > would > > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets. > > > > > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets. > > > > > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what > is > > so > > > special about stationary planets ? > > > > > > Thankyou > > > -Avin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages > > Only in Mail: http://in.mail. > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear GS, I agree that Retrograde planets have Chesta Bala but if such planets are placedin their exaltation or debilitation signs,they give results contrary to that sign of exalt.or debil. Now let us take the example of Jyothi Lakshmi.In her chart, Budha is retrograde and exalted ie., in Kanya Rashi.So Budha has chesta Bala of 59.94 which is highest in the chart which no other planets have and as a result his Shadbala is highest in the chart.Then he has to give very good results.Rather it gave very bad results mainly concerned with her health point of view as Budha is in Kanya which rules our intestines and this problem will be there till this planet gets direct in her life time.Budha became direct on 18th of October 1975 and so she had severe health problems connected with intestines till she reached 17 years and then afterwards it almost disappeared.I hope Jyothi Lakshmi will be able to give the correctness of my statement. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.jsk_1010 <jsk_1010 > wrote: Dear learned members,The question of exaltation+Retro = debiliaton and vice versa is worth pondering over.if we are using the equation exalted+retro = debilitated, then do the rules of neechabhanga apply to that planet?.Retrogression is said to impart strength( chestha bala) to the planet. So it is kind of contradiction when we say that exalted+retro = debilitated. Another point for deliberation is that why only exalted and retro are debilitated.. why not retrograde planets posited in own house.Keeping in mind the dictum that benefic retrograde planets are said to bestow good results on the native, here one may have to then differentiate the retrogression( and possibly exal+retro= deb. equation) between Jup,venus,Mer and Sat,Mars.Also overall state of a planet should be the final say taking into account the Avasthas,rays of the planet, instead of merely focusing on one aspect. A debilitated planet full of bright rays is said to confer raja yoga.In my opinion, if a planet is strong in shad bala but debilitated due to being "retrograde and exalted" would still confer good results, if it is lord of good houses. with regardsGSP.S: Shri Ramadas Raoji, can you please furnish the birth details of the natives( if possible) where exalted and retrograde planets give results akin to debiliated planets for further research. Thanks --- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Raj Sharma,> As Shani is the lord of 2nd house also, placed in 7th house, I have considered both.> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > Raj Sharma <kngcl> wrote:> Dear Ramadas, > > In this example, you have used placement of Shani in 7th to deduct that the debts are related to marriage, love etc, while in previous example you have used lordship of the retrograde planet to indicate the karmic debt connection. > > Which one to use - placement or lordship? or both > > Regards > > Raj > > > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote:> Respected Ramadasji,> > Thanks for the update.> Just to clarify further, karmic debts related to mother are related to moon or jupiter retrograde in 4th house.> And what r the impacts of rahu and ketu as they are also retrograde.> Does this also implies that the native will have different pay back time period in each case or will it be parallel?> > Also to add both the conclusions are correct.> > Regards,> > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Pooja Rajdev,> Now in the chart given Shani (V) is the lord of Lagna and 2nd house.2nd house is Kutumba Sthana but as Shani (V) is placed in 7th,the Karmic debts are connected with his marriage, love etc.Also as Chandra is in 2nd house, there are Karmic debts connected with his mother.> I hope this helps.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote:> Ramadasji,> > This is in addition to the mail below on retrograde planets.> > In the following chart :> Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house of saturn.> Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house.> Does this implies that native has karmic relations with 2nd house related.> The other thought process was that since saturn is retrograde in 7th house, person has love debts > from past birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life.> Which one is more appropriate and why?> > > > > > Personal DetailsLagan(Ascendent)CapricornusLagan Swami(Ascendent Lord)SatnRashi(Moon Sign)AquariusRashi Swami(Moon Sign Lord)SatnNakshatra(Constellation)DhanishthaNakshatra Swami(Constellation Lord)MarsCharan4YogaVajraKaranBavaJanam Namakshar(Birth Name Character)GESurya Rashi(Sun Sign)CapricornusVaranaVaishyaVashyaManavYoniSimhaGanaRakshasaNadiMadhyaVargaBilava> > Planetary PositionsPlanetDir/RetSpeedDegreesSignAscendant --------15°48'0''CapricornusSunDir0°34'26''9°59'22''SagittariusMoonDir6°42'44''3°45'18''AquariusMarsDir22°16'0''1°22'20''SagittariusMercuryDir15°1'17''29°0'7''SagittariusJupiterRet2°8'18''28°24'20''AriesVenusDir4°29'14''24°43'22''CapricornusSaturnRet1°27'20''22°39'20''CancerRahuRet1°35'19''6°42'27''LibraKetuRet1°35'19''6°42'27''AriesUranusDir1°18'38''17°3'51''LibraNeptuneDir1°4'57''20°52'23''ScorpioPlutoDir0°23'21''20°30'30''Virgo> > ashish25mathur <mathurastro@g...> wrote:> RamdasJi,> > Pranaam,> > In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 > days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming > I do not live upto 109 years :-)> > Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how > does it manifest in real life.> > Regards,> > Ashish> > > --- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> > wrote:> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Avin,> > In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like > as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord > and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own > house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your > chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the > chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating > Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For > example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this > indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co-borns > still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I > have written an article about this almost a year back to this and > Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct > and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by > checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this > Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become> > direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of > such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection.> > I hope this helps you.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote:> > I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are:> > > > > > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977> > TOB: 10:20 am> > Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > > minutes north)> > India> > > > Thanks > > -Avin> > > > vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members,> > > > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > > exalted > > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same.> > > > > > My questions are:> > > > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > > were > > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > > Also, > > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > > this > > > parivartana ?> > > > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. 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Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Dear Ramdasji and other learned Members, My date of Birth is 3rd April 1971 at 9:13 PM in Punarvasu 3 rd charan with Mithun Rashi. Can you please let me know since Saturn entered in Leo on 17th July does it mean sade sati is over for me. I had some bad days in my career when are my favourable days ahead. Please reply Regards, Prasanna On 7/19/05, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear GS, > I agree that Retrograde planets have Chesta Bala but if such planets are > placedin their exaltation or debilitation signs,they give results contrary > to that sign of exalt.or debil. > Now let us take the example of Jyothi Lakshmi.In her chart, Budha is > retrograde and exalted ie., in Kanya Rashi.So Budha has chesta Bala of 59.94 > which is highest in the chart which no other planets have and as a result > his Shadbala is highest in the chart.Then he has to give very good > results.Rather it gave very bad results mainly concerned with her health > point of view as Budha is in Kanya which rules our intestines and this > problem will be there till this planet gets direct in her life time.Budha > became direct on 18th of October 1975 and so she had severe health problems > connected with intestines till she reached 17 years and then afterwards it > almost disappeared.I hope Jyothi Lakshmi will be able to give the > correctness of my statement. > I hope this helps you. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > jsk_1010 <jsk_1010 wrote: > > Dear learned members, > > The question of exaltation+Retro = debiliaton and vice versa is worth > pondering over. > > if we are using the equation exalted+retro = debilitated, then do the > rules of neechabhanga apply to that planet?. > > Retrogression is said to impart strength( chestha bala) to the > planet. So it is kind of contradiction when we say that exalted+retro > = debilitated. Another point for deliberation is that why only > exalted and retro are debilitated.. why not retrograde planets > posited in own house. > > Keeping in mind the dictum that benefic retrograde planets are said > to bestow good results on the native, here one may have to then > differentiate the retrogression( and possibly exal+retro= deb. > equation) between Jup,venus,Mer and Sat,Mars. > > Also overall state of a planet should be the final say taking into > account the Avasthas,rays of the planet, instead of merely focusing > on one aspect. A debilitated planet full of bright rays is said to > confer raja yoga. > > In my opinion, if a planet is strong in shad bala but debilitated due > to being "retrograde and exalted" would still confer good results, if > it is lord of good houses. > > with regards > GS > > P.S: Shri Ramadas Raoji, can you please furnish the birth details of > the natives( if possible) where exalted and retrograde planets give > results akin to debiliated planets for further research. Thanks > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> > wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Raj Sharma, > > As Shani is the lord of 2nd house also, placed in 7th house, I have > considered both. > > I hope this helps you. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > Raj Sharma <kngcl> wrote: > > Dear Ramadas, > > > > In this example, you have used placement of Shani in 7th to deduct > that the debts are related to marriage, love etc, while in previous > example you have used lordship of the retrograde planet to indicate > the karmic debt connection. > > > > Which one to use - placement or lordship? or both > > > > Regards > > > > Raj > > > > > > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote: > > Respected Ramadasji, > > > > Thanks for the update. > > Just to clarify further, karmic debts related to mother are related > to moon or jupiter retrograde in 4th house. > > And what r the impacts of rahu and ketu as they are also retrograde. > > Does this also implies that the native will have different pay back > time period in each case or will it be parallel? > > > > Also to add both the conclusions are correct. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Pooja Rajdev, > > Now in the chart given Shani (V) is the lord of Lagna and 2nd > house.2nd house is Kutumba Sthana but as Shani (V) is placed in > 7th,the Karmic debts are connected with his marriage, love etc.Also > as Chandra is in 2nd house, there are Karmic debts connected with his > mother. > > I hope this helps. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote: > > Ramadasji, > > > > This is in addition to the mail below on retrograde planets. > > > > In the following chart : > > Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house > of saturn. > > Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house. > > Does this implies that native has karmic relations with 2nd house > related. > > The other thought process was that since saturn is retrograde in > 7th house, person has love debts > > from past birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life. > > Which one is more appropriate and why? > > > > > > > > > > > > Personal DetailsLagan(Ascendent)CapricornusLagan > Swami(Ascendent > Lord)SatnRashi(Moon Sign)AquariusRashi Swami(Moon Sign Lord) > SatnNakshatra(Constellation)DhanishthaNakshatra > Swami(Constellation > Lord)MarsCharan4YogaVajraKaranBavaJanam Namakshar(Birth > Name > Character)GESurya Rashi(Sun Sign) > CapricornusVaranaVaishyaVashyaManavYoniSimhaGanaRakshasaNadiMadhyaVarg > aBilava > > > > Planetary PositionsPlanetDir/RetSpeedDegreesSignAscendant > -------- > 15°48'0''CapricornusSunDir0°34'26''9°59'22''SagittariusMoonDir6° > 42'44''3°45'18''AquariusMarsDir22°16'0''1° > 22'20''SagittariusMercuryDir15°1'17''29°0'7''SagittariusJupiterRet2° > 8'18''28°24'20''AriesVenusDir4°29'14''24°43'22''CapricornusSaturnRet1° > 27'20''22°39'20''CancerRahuRet1°35'19''6°42'27''LibraKetuRet1° > 35'19''6°42'27''AriesUranusDir1°18'38''17°3'51''LibraNeptuneDir1° > 4'57''20°52'23''ScorpioPlutoDir0°23'21''20°30'30''Virgo > > > > ashish25mathur <mathurastro@g...> wrote: > > RamdasJi, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 > > days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. > Assuming > > I do not live upto 109 years :-) > > > > Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how > > does it manifest in real life. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ashish > > > > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao > <ramadasrao> > > wrote: > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > > Dear Avin, > > > In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works > like > > as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord > > and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own > > house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your > > chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the > > chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating > > Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For > > example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this > > indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co- > borns > > still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this > life.I > > have written an article about this almost a year back to this and > > Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct > > and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by > > checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when > this > > Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet > become > > > direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end > of > > such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection. > > > I hope this helps you. > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote: > > > I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are: > > > > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977 > > > TOB: 10:20 am > > > Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > > > minutes north) > > > India > > > > > > Thanks > > > -Avin > > > > > > vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members, > > > > > > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > > > exalted > > > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the > same. > > > > > > > > My questions are: > > > > > > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in > 7th > > > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > > > were > > > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be > good? > > > Also, > > > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > > > this > > > > parivartana ? > > > > > > > > 2.) 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Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Respected Gurus, i have a exalted Guru in Retro in 7th house,but during Guru Antar dasa i got stability in my job i became permanent in my company during that period.Sat is also Retro in 8th house. But will Guru cause problem in my Marriage?? 3rd Feb 1979 06:30am Meerut,UP vedic astrology, Prasanna Tawargeri <prasannat@g...> wrote: > Dear Ramdasji and other learned Members, > My date of Birth is 3rd April 1971 at 9:13 PM in Punarvasu 3 rd charan > with Mithun Rashi. > Can you please let me know since Saturn entered in Leo on 17th July > does it mean sade sati is over for me. > I had some bad days in my career when are my favourable days ahead. > Please reply > > Regards, > Prasanna > > On 7/19/05, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear GS, > > I agree that Retrograde planets have Chesta Bala but if such planets are > > placedin their exaltation or debilitation signs,they give results contrary > > to that sign of exalt.or debil. > > Now let us take the example of Jyothi Lakshmi.In her chart, Budha is > > retrograde and exalted ie., in Kanya Rashi.So Budha has chesta Bala of 59.94 > > which is highest in the chart which no other planets have and as a result > > his Shadbala is highest in the chart.Then he has to give very good > > results.Rather it gave very bad results mainly concerned with her health > > point of view as Budha is in Kanya which rules our intestines and this > > problem will be there till this planet gets direct in her life time.Budha > > became direct on 18th of October 1975 and so she had severe health problems > > connected with intestines till she reached 17 years and then afterwards it > > almost disappeared.I hope Jyothi Lakshmi will be able to give the > > correctness of my statement. > > I hope this helps you. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > jsk_1010 <jsk_1010> wrote: > > > > Dear learned members, > > > > The question of exaltation+Retro = debiliaton and vice versa is worth > > pondering over. > > > > if we are using the equation exalted+retro = debilitated, then do the > > rules of neechabhanga apply to that planet?. > > > > Retrogression is said to impart strength( chestha bala) to the > > planet. So it is kind of contradiction when we say that exalted+retro > > = debilitated. Another point for deliberation is that why only > > exalted and retro are debilitated.. why not retrograde planets > > posited in own house. > > > > Keeping in mind the dictum that benefic retrograde planets are said > > to bestow good results on the native, here one may have to then > > differentiate the retrogression( and possibly exal+retro= deb. > > equation) between Jup,venus,Mer and Sat,Mars. > > > > Also overall state of a planet should be the final say taking into > > account the Avasthas,rays of the planet, instead of merely focusing > > on one aspect. A debilitated planet full of bright rays is said to > > confer raja yoga. > > > > In my opinion, if a planet is strong in shad bala but debilitated due > > to being "retrograde and exalted" would still confer good results, if > > it is lord of good houses. > > > > with regards > > GS > > > > P.S: Shri Ramadas Raoji, can you please furnish the birth details of > > the natives( if possible) where exalted and retrograde planets give > > results akin to debiliated planets for further research. Thanks > > > > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> > > wrote: > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > > Dear Raj Sharma, > > > As Shani is the lord of 2nd house also, placed in 7th house, I have > > considered both. > > > I hope this helps you. > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > Raj Sharma <kngcl> wrote: > > > Dear Ramadas, > > > > > > In this example, you have used placement of Shani in 7th to deduct > > that the debts are related to marriage, love etc, while in previous > > example you have used lordship of the retrograde planet to indicate > > the karmic debt connection. > > > > > > Which one to use - placement or lordship? or both > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Raj > > > > > > > > > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote: > > > Respected Ramadasji, > > > > > > Thanks for the update. > > > Just to clarify further, karmic debts related to mother are related > > to moon or jupiter retrograde in 4th house. > > > And what r the impacts of rahu and ketu as they are also retrograde. > > > Does this also implies that the native will have different pay back > > time period in each case or will it be parallel? > > > > > > Also to add both the conclusions are correct. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > > Dear Pooja Rajdev, > > > Now in the chart given Shani (V) is the lord of Lagna and 2nd > > house.2nd house is Kutumba Sthana but as Shani (V) is placed in > > 7th,the Karmic debts are connected with his marriage, love etc.Also > > as Chandra is in 2nd house, there are Karmic debts connected with his > > mother. > > > I hope this helps. > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote: > > > Ramadasji, > > > > > > This is in addition to the mail below on retrograde planets. > > > > > > In the following chart : > > > Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house > > of saturn. > > > Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house. > > > Does this implies that native has karmic relations with 2nd house > > related. > > > The other thought process was that since saturn is retrograde in > > 7th house, person has love debts > > > from past birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life. > > > Which one is more appropriate and why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personal DetailsLagan(Ascendent)CapricornusLagan > > Swami(Ascendent > > Lord)SatnRashi(Moon Sign)AquariusRashi Swami(Moon Sign Lord) > > SatnNakshatra(Constellation)DhanishthaNakshatra > > Swami(Constellation > > Lord)MarsCharan4YogaVajraKaranBavaJanam Namakshar(Birth > > Name > > Character)GESurya Rashi(Sun Sign) > > CapricornusVaranaVaishyaVashyaManavYoniSimhaGanaRakshasaNadiMadhyaVarg > > aBilava > > > > > > Planetary PositionsPlanetDir/RetSpeedDegreesSignAscendant > > -------- > > 15°48'0''CapricornusSunDir0°34'26''9°59'22''SagittariusMoonDir6° > > 42'44''3°45'18''AquariusMarsDir22°16'0''1° > > 22'20''SagittariusMercuryDir15°1'17''29° 0'7''SagittariusJupiterRet2° > > 8'18''28°24'20''AriesVenusDir4°29'14''24° 43'22''CapricornusSaturnRet1° > > 27'20''22°39'20''CancerRahuRet1°35'19''6°42'27''LibraKetuRet1° > > 35'19''6°42'27''AriesUranusDir1°18'38''17°3'51''LibraNeptuneDir1° > > 4'57''20°52'23''ScorpioPlutoDir0°23'21''20°30'30''Virgo > > > > > > ashish25mathur <mathurastro@g...> wrote: > > > RamdasJi, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 > > > days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. > > Assuming > > > I do not live upto 109 years :-) > > > > > > Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how > > > does it manifest in real life. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ashish > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao > > <ramadasrao> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > > > Dear Avin, > > > > In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works > > like > > > as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord > > > and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own > > > house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your > > > chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the > > > chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating > > > Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For > > > example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this > > > indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co- > > borns > > > still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this > > life.I > > > have written an article about this almost a year back to this and > > > Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct > > > and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by > > > checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when > > this > > > Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet > > become > > > > direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end > > of > > > such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection. > > > > I hope this helps you. > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > > > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote: > > > > I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977 > > > > TOB: 10:20 am > > > > Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > > > > minutes north) > > > > India > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > -Avin > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members, > > > > > > > > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > > > > exalted > > > > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the > > same. > > > > > > > > > > My questions are: > > > > > > > > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in > > 7th > > > > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > > > > were > > > > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be > > good? > > > > Also, > > > > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > > > > this > > > > > parivartana ? > > > > > > > > > > 2.) 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Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Hi Why the Guru has given see the dasamasa it is well placed.By looking the navamsa but Retro Jupiter and saturn is not good for marrital life. Regards Moni --- gbin1979 <gbin1979 wrote: > Respected Gurus, > i have a exalted Guru in Retro in > 7th house,but > during Guru Antar dasa i got stability in my job i > became permanent > in my company during that period.Sat is also Retro > in 8th house. > But will Guru cause problem in my Marriage?? > > 3rd Feb 1979 > 06:30am > Meerut,UP > > > vedic astrology, Prasanna > Tawargeri > <prasannat@g...> wrote: > > Dear Ramdasji and other learned Members, > > My date of Birth is 3rd April 1971 at 9:13 PM in > Punarvasu 3 rd > charan > > with Mithun Rashi. > > Can you please let me know since Saturn entered in > Leo on 17th July > > does it mean sade sati is over for me. > > I had some bad days in my career when are my > favourable days ahead. > > Please reply > > > > Regards, > > Prasanna > > > > On 7/19/05, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > > > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > > Dear GS, > > > I agree that Retrograde planets have Chesta Bala > but if such > planets are > > > placedin their exaltation or debilitation > signs,they give results > contrary > > > to that sign of exalt.or debil. > > > Now let us take the example of Jyothi Lakshmi.In > her chart, Budha > is > > > retrograde and exalted ie., in Kanya Rashi.So > Budha has chesta > Bala of 59.94 > > > which is highest in the chart which no other > planets have and as > a result > > > his Shadbala is highest in the chart.Then he has > to give very good > > > results.Rather it gave very bad results mainly > concerned with her > health > > > point of view as Budha is in Kanya which rules > our intestines and > this > > > problem will be there till this planet gets > direct in her life > time.Budha > > > became direct on 18th of October 1975 and so she > had severe > health problems > > > connected with intestines till she reached 17 > years and then > afterwards it > > > almost disappeared.I hope Jyothi Lakshmi will be > able to give the > > > correctness of my statement. > > > I hope this helps you. > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > jsk_1010 <jsk_1010> wrote: > > > > > > Dear learned members, > > > > > > The question of exaltation+Retro = debiliaton > and vice versa is > worth > > > pondering over. > > > > > > if we are using the equation exalted+retro = > debilitated, then do > the > > > rules of neechabhanga apply to that planet?. > > > > > > Retrogression is said to impart strength( > chestha bala) to the > > > planet. So it is kind of contradiction when we > say that > exalted+retro > > > = debilitated. Another point for deliberation is > that why only > > > exalted and retro are debilitated.. why not > retrograde planets > > > posited in own house. > > > > > > Keeping in mind the dictum that benefic > retrograde planets are > said > > > to bestow good results on the native, here one > may have to then > > > differentiate the retrogression( and possibly > exal+retro= deb. > > > equation) between Jup,venus,Mer and Sat,Mars. > > > > > > Also overall state of a planet should be the > final say taking > into > > > account the Avasthas,rays of the planet, instead > of merely > focusing > > > on one aspect. A debilitated planet full of > bright rays is said > to > > > confer raja yoga. > > > > > > In my opinion, if a planet is strong in shad > bala but debilitated > due > > > to being "retrograde and exalted" would still > confer good > results, if > > > it is lord of good houses. > > > > > > with regards > > > GS > > > > > > P.S: Shri Ramadas Raoji, can you please furnish > the birth details > of > > > the natives( if possible) where exalted and > retrograde planets > give > > > results akin to debiliated planets for further > research. Thanks > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas > Rao > <ramadasrao> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > > > Dear Raj Sharma, > > > > As Shani is the lord of 2nd house also, placed > in 7th house, I > have > > > considered both. > > > > I hope this helps you. > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > > > Raj Sharma <kngcl> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramadas, > > > > > > > > In this example, you have used placement of > Shani in 7th to > deduct > > > that the debts are related to marriage, love > etc, while in > previous > > > example you have used lordship of the retrograde > planet to > indicate > > > the karmic debt connection. > > > > > > > > Which one to use - placement or lordship? or > both > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote: > > > > Respected Ramadasji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the update. > > > > Just to clarify further, karmic debts related > to mother are > related > > > to moon or jupiter retrograde in 4th house. > > > > And what r the impacts of rahu and ketu as > they are also > retrograde. > > > > Does this also implies that the native will > have different pay > back > > > time period in each case or will it be parallel? > > > > > > > > Also to add both the conclusions are correct. > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Dear friends, I am submitting my birth details. 18.32 hours, 24th February 1968, Longitude:85E45, Lat: 21N45 I have Leo lagna, Retrograde Jupiter(5th lord) in lagna aspecting the 7th house of Marriage. Death of My grandfather: 2nd February 1992 Joining the 1st Job: 22nd May 1992- made the 1st long distance travel of my life from Orissa to Delhi. Got transferred back to Orissa from Delh- 31st July 1994 Joining the second Job: 18th December 1995 My date of marriage is 5th February 1998 Birth of 1st Child 22nd November 1998 Abortion- of 2nd issue- January 2000. 3rd issue (son)- 27th May 2005. I hope the issues related to retrogression of the 5th Lord Jupiter will help in throwing some light in assessment of it behavihour while in retrogression. With regards to all, M.Tripathy, Delhi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > Dear Sir, You have written "Budha became direct on 18th of October 1975 and so she had severe health problems connected with intestines till she reached 17 years and then afterwards it almost disappeared." Could I request you to kindly explain how a retro planet in natal chart can turn direct in a lifetime? Shall be grateful if you could respond, pl. Regards, Vinita > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear GS, > I agree that Retrograde planets have Chesta Bala but if such planets are placedin their exaltation or debilitation signs,they give results contrary to that sign of exalt.or debil. > Now let us take the example of Jyothi Lakshmi.In her chart, Budha is retrograde and exalted ie., in Kanya Rashi.So Budha has chesta Bala of 59.94 which is highest in the chart which no other planets have and as a result his Shadbala is highest in the chart.Then he has to give very good results.Rather it gave very bad results mainly concerned with her health point of view as Budha is in Kanya which rules our intestines and this problem will be there till this planet gets direct in her life time.Budha became direct on 18th of October 1975 and so she had severe health problems connected with intestines till she reached 17 years and then afterwards it almost disappeared.I hope Jyothi Lakshmi will be able to give the correctness of my statement. > I hope this helps you. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > jsk_1010 <jsk_1010> wrote: > > Dear learned members, > > The question of exaltation+Retro = debiliaton and vice versa is worth > pondering over. > > if we are using the equation exalted+retro = debilitated, then do the > rules of neechabhanga apply to that planet?. > > Retrogression is said to impart strength( chestha bala) to the > planet. So it is kind of contradiction when we say that exalted+retro > = debilitated. Another point for deliberation is that why only > exalted and retro are debilitated.. why not retrograde planets > posited in own house. > > Keeping in mind the dictum that benefic retrograde planets are said > to bestow good results on the native, here one may have to then > differentiate the retrogression( and possibly exal+retro= deb. > equation) between Jup,venus,Mer and Sat,Mars. > > Also overall state of a planet should be the final say taking into > account the Avasthas,rays of the planet, instead of merely focusing > on one aspect. A debilitated planet full of bright rays is said to > confer raja yoga. > > In my opinion, if a planet is strong in shad bala but debilitated due > to being "retrograde and exalted" would still confer good results, if > it is lord of good houses. > > with regards > GS > > P.S: Shri Ramadas Raoji, can you please furnish the birth details of > the natives( if possible) where exalted and retrograde planets give > results akin to debiliated planets for further research. Thanks > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> > wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Raj Sharma, > > As Shani is the lord of 2nd house also, placed in 7th house, I have > considered both. > > I hope this helps you. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > Raj Sharma <kngcl> wrote: > > Dear Ramadas, > > > > In this example, you have used placement of Shani in 7th to deduct > that the debts are related to marriage, love etc, while in previous > example you have used lordship of the retrograde planet to indicate > the karmic debt connection. > > > > Which one to use - placement or lordship? or both > > > > Regards > > > > Raj > > > > > > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote: > > Respected Ramadasji, > > > > Thanks for the update. > > Just to clarify further, karmic debts related to mother are related > to moon or jupiter retrograde in 4th house. > > And what r the impacts of rahu and ketu as they are also retrograde. > > Does this also implies that the native will have different pay back > time period in each case or will it be parallel? > > > > Also to add both the conclusions are correct. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Pooja Rajdev, > > Now in the chart given Shani (V) is the lord of Lagna and 2nd > house.2nd house is Kutumba Sthana but as Shani (V) is placed in > 7th,the Karmic debts are connected with his marriage, love etc.Also > as Chandra is in 2nd house, there are Karmic debts connected with his > mother. > > I hope this helps. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja> wrote: > > Ramadasji, > > > > This is in addition to the mail below on retrograde planets. > > > > In the following chart : > > Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house > of saturn. > > Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house. > > Does this implies that native has karmic relations with 2nd house > related. > > The other thought process was that since saturn is retrograde in > 7th house, person has love debts > > from past birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life. > > Which one is more appropriate and why? > > > > > > > > > > > > Personal DetailsLagan(Ascendent)CapricornusLagan Swami(Ascendent > Lord)SatnRashi(Moon Sign)AquariusRashi Swami(Moon Sign Lord) > SatnNakshatra(Constellation)DhanishthaNakshatra Swami (Constellation > Lord)MarsCharan4YogaVajraKaranBavaJanam Namakshar(Birth Name > Character)GESurya Rashi(Sun Sign) > CapricornusVaranaVaishyaVashyaManavYoniSimhaGanaRakshasaNadiMadhyaVar g > aBilava > > > > Planetary PositionsPlanetDir/RetSpeedDegreesSignAscendant ------- - > 15°48'0''CapricornusSunDir0°34'26''9°59'22''SagittariusMoonDir6° > 42'44''3°45'18''AquariusMarsDir22°16'0''1° > 22'20''SagittariusMercuryDir15°1'17''29° 0'7''SagittariusJupiterRet2° > 8'18''28°24'20''AriesVenusDir4°29'14''24° 43'22''CapricornusSaturnRet1° > 27'20''22°39'20''CancerRahuRet1°35'19''6°42'27''LibraKetuRet1° > 35'19''6°42'27''AriesUranusDir1°18'38''17°3'51''LibraNeptuneDir1° > 4'57''20°52'23''ScorpioPlutoDir0°23'21''20°30'30''Virgo > > > > ashish25mathur <mathurastro@g...> wrote: > > RamdasJi, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 > > days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. > Assuming > > I do not live upto 109 years :-) > > > > Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how > > does it manifest in real life. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ashish > > > > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao > <ramadasrao> > > wrote: > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > > Dear Avin, > > > In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works > like > > as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord > > and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own > > house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your > > chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the > > chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating > > Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For > > example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this > > indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co- > borns > > still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this > life.I > > have written an article about this almost a year back to this and > > Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct > > and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by > > checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when > this > > Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet > become > > > direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end > of > > such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection. > > > I hope this helps you. > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote: > > > I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are: > > > > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977 > > > TOB: 10:20 am > > > Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > > > minutes north) > > > India > > > > > > Thanks > > > -Avin > > > > > > vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members, > > > > > > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > > > exalted > > > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the > same. > > > > > > > > My questions are: > > > > > > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in > 7th > > > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > > > were > > > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be > good? > > > Also, > > > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > > > this > > > > parivartana ? > > > > > > > > 2.) 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Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 It implies that all individual born have rahu-ketu as retrograde in their charts. If a person does not have any planet retrograde besides rahu-ketu, what does that implies? And besides rahu-ketu, if pluto, neptune and uranus are retrograde...what does that means? Regards, PoojaRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Pooja Rajdev, The Karmic debts related to mother is because of Guru (V) in 4th house.Also you can see Ketu is also there indicating Moksha Karya of your mother's close relative is pending.Rahu and Ketu are always retrograde.Because of them only we all take birth and perform our Karmic debts.They are called Karmic planets.Rahu gives us desire and Ketu renunciates it and between them we are hanging with our lives.All our desires are from Rahu who has got only head and we try to achieve our desires or goals in our life till the end and finally Ketu takes our life to the next life depending on how much good and bad Karmas we have done in this life.This is a very big subject to discuss. I have explained in brief. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja > wrote: Respected Ramadasji, Thanks for the update. Just to clarify further, karmic debts related to mother are related to moon or jupiter retrograde in 4th house. And what r the impacts of rahu and ketu as they are also retrograde. Does this also implies that the native will have different pay back time period in each case or will it be parallel? Also to add both the conclusions are correct. Regards,Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Pooja Rajdev, Now in the chart given Shani (V) is the lord of Lagna and 2nd house.2nd house is Kutumba Sthana but as Shani (V) is placed in 7th,the Karmic debts are connected with his marriage, love etc.Also as Chandra is in 2nd house, there are Karmic debts connected with his mother. I hope this helps. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.POOJA RAJDEV <its_me_pooja > wrote: Ramadasji, This is in addition to the mail below on retrograde planets. In the following chart : Saturn is retrograde in 7th house, whose lord is MOon in 2nd house of saturn.Therefore it will act as in its own house i.e 2nd house.Does this implies that native has karmic relations with 2nd house related.The other thought process was that since saturn is retrograde in 7th house, person has love debts from past birth and hence repays them by suffering in current life.Which one is more appropriate and why? Personal Details Lagan(Ascendent) Capricornus Lagan Swami(Ascendent Lord) Satn Rashi(Moon Sign) Aquarius Rashi Swami(Moon Sign Lord) Satn Nakshatra(Constellation) Dhanishtha Nakshatra Swami(Constellation Lord) Mars Charan 4 Yoga Vajra Karan Bava Janam Namakshar(Birth Name Character) GE Surya Rashi(Sun Sign) Capricornus Varana Vaishya Vashya Manav Yoni Simha Gana Rakshasa Nadi Madhya Varga Bilava Planetary Positions Planet Dir/Ret Speed Degrees Sign Ascendant ---- ---- 15°48'0'' Capricornus Sun Dir 0°34'26'' 9°59'22'' Sagittarius Moon Dir 6°42'44'' 3°45'18'' Aquarius Mars Dir 22°16'0'' 1°22'20'' Sagittarius Mercury Dir 15°1'17'' 29°0'7'' Sagittarius Jupiter Ret 2°8'18'' 28°24'20'' Aries Venus Dir 4°29'14'' 24°43'22'' Capricornus Saturn Ret 1°27'20'' 22°39'20'' Cancer Rahu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Libra Ketu Ret 1°35'19'' 6°42'27'' Aries Uranus Dir 1°18'38'' 17°3'51'' Libra Neptune Dir 1°4'57'' 20°52'23'' Scorpio Pluto Dir 0°23'21'' 20°30'30'' Virgo ashish25mathur <mathurastro > wrote: RamdasJi,Pranaam,In my case the Saturn ( lord of 4 and 5 ) becomes direct after 109 days so will the karmic connection continue in my next life. Assuming I do not live upto 109 years :-)Please tell us more about karmic connection in layman terms... how does it manifest in real life.Regards,Ashish--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Avin,> In your chart, Kuja (V) is in 7th in Kataka Rashi and he works like as if exalted.But he gets Parivartana with Chandra who is 7th lord and so Kuja will work as if he is in 4th house which is his own house.Now this becomes an affliction and so before marriage your chart has to be matched with girl having similar Kuja Dosha in the chart.there are many Retrograde planets in your chart indicating Karmic connections with the houses they lord in the chart.For example, Kuja is your 4th and 11th lord who is Vakra and this indicates your Past life Karmas with your mother and elderly co-borns still exist and will continue till Kuja becomes direct in this life.I have written an article about this almost a year back to this and Varaha Mihira list.Now how to see when the Vakra planet gets direct and the Karmic connection with such people will complete is by checking from Panchanga or Ephemeris,from your birth date, when this Vakra Kuja becomes direct.Count after how many days this planet become> direct.Now count so many years as the days you got and the end of such year, will be the end of your Karmic connection.> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > avin6dl <avin6dl> wrote:> I forgot to give my birth details. Here they are:> > > > Date of Birth: Dec 20, 1977> TOB: 10:20 am> Place: Dehradun, India (78 degrees 04 minutes east; 30 degrees 19 > minutes north)> India> > Thanks > -Avin> > --- In vedic astrology, "avin6dl" <avin6dl> > wrote:> > > > Dear Ramdas ji and other learned Members,> > > > While we are on the topic of retrograde debilitated planets = > exalted > > planets, I have my share of questions/concerns regarding the same.> > > > My questions are:> > > > 1.) In my rasi chart, mars is retrograde and debilitated (in 7th > > house). Does that mean that mars will actually behave as if it > were > > exalted ? Also, does that mean that aspects of mars will be good? > Also, > > mars and moon are in parivartana. What are the implications of > this > > parivartana ?> > > > 2.) In my chart, all the planets (except venus) are retrograde. I > would > > be highly obliged if someone can tell me if there are special > > implications of this retrograde nature of most of the planets.> > > > 3.) Does the dasha analysis for retrograde planets should be done > > exactly the same was as it is done for direct motion planets.> > > > 4.) Lastly, how to determine if a planet is stationary and what is > so > > special about stationary planets ?> > > > Thankyou > > -Avin> > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages> Only in Mail: http://in.mail.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Tired of spam? 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