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Dear friends

 

It is said that to know about any relation take the appropriate house

in natal chart as lagna and analyse.

 

Taking this priciple for Father (9th house) - his spouse (native's

mother) i.e. 7th from 9th is 3rd house whereas 4th house is said to

signify mother.

 

Same is the case for mother.

 

Why this priciple is not applicable for these two most important

relations in chart.

 

Shall appreciate if you can claer my doubts.

 

Best regards

 

Shree Narayan

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Dear Narayanshree,

 

Though there is no difference of opinion for the house related to

mother, there is some difference of opinion for the house of Father.

 

Major astrological fraternity considers 9th house as house for

Father, some astrologers, especially in northern part of India takes

10th house.

 

10th house is 7th from mother's house and also the house of Karma

(Profession). In those earlier days, native use to take-up the

profession of his father (ancestors) in most cases and father was

usually the main guiding force in work area for jataka, hence the

opinion of 10th house.

 

Father is the first person, who gives the knowledge of Dharma to a

native, hence the majority (especially in south India) of

astrologers considers 9th house for father even if it doesn't fall

in 7th from the house of mother.

 

Regards

 

Utpal

 

 

vedic astrology, "narayanshree"

<shree.narayan@f...> wrote:

> Dear friends

>

> It is said that to know about any relation take the appropriate

house

> in natal chart as lagna and analyse.

>

> Taking this priciple for Father (9th house) - his spouse (native's

> mother) i.e. 7th from 9th is 3rd house whereas 4th house is said

to

> signify mother.

>

> Same is the case for mother.

>

> Why this priciple is not applicable for these two most important

> relations in chart.

>

> Shall appreciate if you can claer my doubts.

>

> Best regards

>

> Shree Narayan

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Dear Utpal Ji

 

I had read exactly what you have said but it leaves the problem

without solution.

 

One approach may be: the house which works best in majority of chart

for father.

 

Another approach may be: we accept what sages said.

 

Can you throw some light on above approach. And, what do we do with

bhavat bhavam dictum if above are not in agreement with it.

 

Best regards

 

Shree Narayan

 

vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

<vedic_pathak> wrote:

> Dear Narayanshree,

>

> Though there is no difference of opinion for the house related to

> mother, there is some difference of opinion for the house of Father.

>

> Major astrological fraternity considers 9th house as house for

> Father, some astrologers, especially in northern part of India

takes

> 10th house.

>

> 10th house is 7th from mother's house and also the house of Karma

> (Profession). In those earlier days, native use to take-up the

> profession of his father (ancestors) in most cases and father was

> usually the main guiding force in work area for jataka, hence the

> opinion of 10th house.

>

> Father is the first person, who gives the knowledge of Dharma to a

> native, hence the majority (especially in south India) of

> astrologers considers 9th house for father even if it doesn't fall

> in 7th from the house of mother.

>

> Regards

>

> Utpal

>

>

> vedic astrology, "narayanshree"

> <shree.narayan@f...> wrote:

> > Dear friends

> >

> > It is said that to know about any relation take the appropriate

> house

> > in natal chart as lagna and analyse.

> >

> > Taking this priciple for Father (9th house) - his spouse

(native's

> > mother) i.e. 7th from 9th is 3rd house whereas 4th house is said

> to

> > signify mother.

> >

> > Same is the case for mother.

> >

> > Why this priciple is not applicable for these two most important

> > relations in chart.

> >

> > Shall appreciate if you can claer my doubts.

> >

> > Best regards

> >

> > Shree Narayan

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Dear Narayan Shree,

 

This is not the only issue of varied opinions, there are several

much more controversial then that and you surely know about those.

 

in such situation, i take as many charts i can and try to see for my

self which works better and form the opinion accordingly.

 

What sages must have said and meant, all the scripts are not

available for us now and hence it is always better to verify with

the Approach-1 mentioned by you.

 

best regards,

 

utpal

 

vedic astrology, "narayanshree"

<shree.narayan@f...> wrote:

> Dear Utpal Ji

>

> I had read exactly what you have said but it leaves the problem

> without solution.

>

> One approach may be: the house which works best in majority of

chart

> for father.

>

> Another approach may be: we accept what sages said.

>

> Can you throw some light on above approach. And, what do we do

with

> bhavat bhavam dictum if above are not in agreement with it.

>

> Best regards

>

> Shree Narayan

>

> vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

> <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > Dear Narayanshree,

> >

> > Though there is no difference of opinion for the house related

to

> > mother, there is some difference of opinion for the house of

Father.

> >

> > Major astrological fraternity considers 9th house as house for

> > Father, some astrologers, especially in northern part of India

> takes

> > 10th house.

> >

> > 10th house is 7th from mother's house and also the house of

Karma

> > (Profession). In those earlier days, native use to take-up the

> > profession of his father (ancestors) in most cases and father

was

> > usually the main guiding force in work area for jataka, hence

the

> > opinion of 10th house.

> >

> > Father is the first person, who gives the knowledge of Dharma to

a

> > native, hence the majority (especially in south India) of

> > astrologers considers 9th house for father even if it doesn't

fall

> > in 7th from the house of mother.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Utpal

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "narayanshree"

> > <shree.narayan@f...> wrote:

> > > Dear friends

> > >

> > > It is said that to know about any relation take the

appropriate

> > house

> > > in natal chart as lagna and analyse.

> > >

> > > Taking this priciple for Father (9th house) - his spouse

> (native's

> > > mother) i.e. 7th from 9th is 3rd house whereas 4th house is

said

> > to

> > > signify mother.

> > >

> > > Same is the case for mother.

> > >

> > > Why this priciple is not applicable for these two most

important

> > > relations in chart.

> > >

> > > Shall appreciate if you can claer my doubts.

> > >

> > > Best regards

> > >

> > > Shree Narayan

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|| Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

 

Dear Utpal and NarayanShree,

 

Namaste !

 

Utpal,your explanation really sounds good.

 

I remember that in Prasna Tantra,Shri Neelakanta Daivagyna also

quotes 10th house for Father.(Ref Prasna Tantra translated by Holy

Shri B.V Raman)

 

But in BPHS Maharishi Parasara clearly explains the life of

native's father by considering the lord of Dharma Bhava(9th House)

and its strength.

 

These difference of opinion between the great divine scholors

always confuses the learners like us.May be gurus shall guide us more

in these situations.

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Regards,

 

krithi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

<vedic_pathak> wrote:

> Dear Narayanshree,

>

> Though there is no difference of opinion for the house related to

> mother, there is some difference of opinion for the house of Father.

>

> Major astrological fraternity considers 9th house as house for

> Father, some astrologers, especially in northern part of India

takes

> 10th house.

>

> 10th house is 7th from mother's house and also the house of Karma

> (Profession). In those earlier days, native use to take-up the

> profession of his father (ancestors) in most cases and father was

> usually the main guiding force in work area for jataka, hence the

> opinion of 10th house.

>

> Father is the first person, who gives the knowledge of Dharma to a

> native, hence the majority (especially in south India) of

> astrologers considers 9th house for father even if it doesn't fall

> in 7th from the house of mother.

>

> Regards

>

> Utpal

>

>

> vedic astrology, "narayanshree"

> <shree.narayan@f...> wrote:

> > Dear friends

> >

> > It is said that to know about any relation take the appropriate

> house

> > in natal chart as lagna and analyse.

> >

> > Taking this priciple for Father (9th house) - his spouse

(native's

> > mother) i.e. 7th from 9th is 3rd house whereas 4th house is said

> to

> > signify mother.

> >

> > Same is the case for mother.

> >

> > Why this priciple is not applicable for these two most important

> > relations in chart.

> >

> > Shall appreciate if you can claer my doubts.

> >

> > Best regards

> >

> > Shree Narayan

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Dear Krithi and Utpal

 

What approach Sanjay Ji and other noted scholars of present take ..

can you throw some light on it.

 

What has been your experience about it in various charts analysed?

 

Regards

 

Shree Narayan

 

vedic astrology, "Krithigaivasan

Radhakrishnan" <krithi.hayagriva@g...> wrote:

> || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

>

> Dear Utpal and NarayanShree,

>

> Namaste !

>

> Utpal,your explanation really sounds good.

>

> I remember that in Prasna Tantra,Shri Neelakanta Daivagyna also

> quotes 10th house for Father.(Ref Prasna Tantra translated by Holy

> Shri B.V Raman)

>

> But in BPHS Maharishi Parasara clearly explains the life of

> native's father by considering the lord of Dharma Bhava(9th House)

> and its strength.

>

> These difference of opinion between the great divine scholors

> always confuses the learners like us.May be gurus shall guide us

more

> in these situations.

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Regards,

>

> krithi

>

vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

> <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > Dear Narayanshree,

> >

> > Though there is no difference of opinion for the house related to

> > mother, there is some difference of opinion for the house of

Father.

> >

> > Major astrological fraternity considers 9th house as house for

> > Father, some astrologers, especially in northern part of India

> takes

> > 10th house.

> >

> > 10th house is 7th from mother's house and also the house of Karma

> > (Profession). In those earlier days, native use to take-up the

> > profession of his father (ancestors) in most cases and father was

> > usually the main guiding force in work area for jataka, hence the

> > opinion of 10th house.

> >

> > Father is the first person, who gives the knowledge of Dharma to

a

> > native, hence the majority (especially in south India) of

> > astrologers considers 9th house for father even if it doesn't

fall

> > in 7th from the house of mother.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Utpal

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "narayanshree"

> > <shree.narayan@f...> wrote:

> > > Dear friends

> > >

> > > It is said that to know about any relation take the appropriate

> > house

> > > in natal chart as lagna and analyse.

> > >

> > > Taking this priciple for Father (9th house) - his spouse

> (native's

> > > mother) i.e. 7th from 9th is 3rd house whereas 4th house is

said

> > to

> > > signify mother.

> > >

> > > Same is the case for mother.

> > >

> > > Why this priciple is not applicable for these two most

important

> > > relations in chart.

> > >

> > > Shall appreciate if you can claer my doubts.

> > >

> > > Best regards

> > >

> > > Shree Narayan

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I think Sanjay ji takes 9th, Dr Raman use to consider 9th, K.N.Rao ji considers

9th. Ashwin Rawal takes 10th.......

 

I also consider 9th after having more experiences (Earlier, i mean 6 years back,

i use to take 10th). one more thing is also noteworthy is that following of

Ancestoral profession concept has almost died.

 

what would you prefer?

 

regards,

 

utpal narayanshree <shree.narayan (AT) fluor (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Krithi and UtpalWhat approach Sanjay Ji and other noted scholars of present

take .. can you throw some light on it.What has been your experience about it in

various charts analysed?RegardsShree Narayan--- In

vedic astrology, "Krithigaivasan Radhakrishnan"

<krithi.hayagriva@g...> wrote:> || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||> > Dear Utpal and

NarayanShree,> > Namaste !> > Utpal,your explanation really sounds good.>

> I remember that in Prasna Tantra,Shri Neelakanta Daivagyna also > quotes

10th house for Father.(Ref Prasna Tantra translated by Holy > Shri B.V Raman)>

> But in BPHS Maharishi Parasara clearly explains the life of > native's

father by

considering the lord of Dharma Bhava(9th House) > and its strength.> > These

difference of opinion between the great divine scholors > always confuses the

learners like us.May be gurus shall guide us more > in these situations.> > ||

Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Regards,> > krithi> > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "utpal pathak" > <vedic_pathak> wrote:> >

Dear Narayanshree,> > > > Though there is no difference of opinion for the house

related to > > mother, there is some difference of opinion for the house of

Father.> > > > Major astrological fraternity considers 9th house as house for >

> Father, some astrologers, especially in northern part of India > takes > >

10th house.> > > >

10th house is 7th from mother's house and also the house of Karma > >

(Profession). In those earlier days, native use to take-up the > > profession

of his father (ancestors) in most cases and father was > > usually the main

guiding force in work area for jataka, hence the > > opinion of 10th house.> >

> > Father is the first person, who gives the knowledge of Dharma to a > >

native, hence the majority (especially in south India) of > > astrologers

considers 9th house for father even if it doesn't fall > > in 7th from the

house of mother.> > > > Regards> > > > Utpal> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "narayanshree" > > <shree.narayan@f...>

wrote:> > > Dear friends> > > > > > It is said that to know about any relation

take the appropriate >

> house > > > in natal chart as lagna and analyse.> > > > > > Taking this

priciple for Father (9th house) - his spouse > (native's > > > mother) i.e. 7th

from 9th is 3rd house whereas 4th house is said > > to > > > signify mother.> >

> > > > Same is the case for mother.> > > > > > Why this priciple is not

applicable for these two most important > > > relations in chart.> > > > > >

Shall appreciate if you can claer my doubts.> > > > > > Best regards> > > > > >

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||

 

Dear Friends,

The Bhavata Bhavam principle has to be used with thought. Just

applying the House meaning 'as is' to other houses from houses may

lead to mistakes.

For example if 12th is called Vyaya and one calls Vyaya as Loss, then

if apply 12th from 10th is loss of 10th. Then you get Dharma is

'Loss' for Karma!. Which is not true. Now the students may think as

to how exactly to use 'Bhavaat Bhavam' principle.

 

Regarding 10th house, 10th house is the heaven or sky, it's diety is

Indra, Indra is like Vishnu for Bhu loka needs(only). 10th house is

the provider.

In single income family there is usually one person who earns or in

case of Joint families where married siblings stay together All income

is usually given to the Head of the family, There fore that person

acts as the 10th house. Usually it's the Father of the house.

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Krithigaivasan Radhakrishnan"

<krithi.hayagriva@g...> wrote:

> || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

>

> Dear Utpal and NarayanShree,

>

> Namaste !

>

> Utpal,your explanation really sounds good.

>

> I remember that in Prasna Tantra,Shri Neelakanta Daivagyna also

> quotes 10th house for Father.(Ref Prasna Tantra translated by Holy

> Shri B.V Raman)

>

> But in BPHS Maharishi Parasara clearly explains the life of

> native's father by considering the lord of Dharma Bhava(9th House)

> and its strength.

>

> These difference of opinion between the great divine scholors

> always confuses the learners like us.May be gurus shall guide us more

> in these situations.

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Regards,

>

> krithi

>

vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

> <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > Dear Narayanshree,

> >

> > Though there is no difference of opinion for the house related to

> > mother, there is some difference of opinion for the house of Father.

> >

> > Major astrological fraternity considers 9th house as house for

> > Father, some astrologers, especially in northern part of India

> takes

> > 10th house.

> >

> > 10th house is 7th from mother's house and also the house of Karma

> > (Profession). In those earlier days, native use to take-up the

> > profession of his father (ancestors) in most cases and father was

> > usually the main guiding force in work area for jataka, hence the

> > opinion of 10th house.

> >

> > Father is the first person, who gives the knowledge of Dharma to a

> > native, hence the majority (especially in south India) of

> > astrologers considers 9th house for father even if it doesn't fall

> > in 7th from the house of mother.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Utpal

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "narayanshree"

> > <shree.narayan@f...> wrote:

> > > Dear friends

> > >

> > > It is said that to know about any relation take the appropriate

> > house

> > > in natal chart as lagna and analyse.

> > >

> > > Taking this priciple for Father (9th house) - his spouse

> (native's

> > > mother) i.e. 7th from 9th is 3rd house whereas 4th house is said

> > to

> > > signify mother.

> > >

> > > Same is the case for mother.

> > >

> > > Why this priciple is not applicable for these two most important

> > > relations in chart.

> > >

> > > Shall appreciate if you can claer my doubts.

> > >

> > > Best regards

> > >

> > > Shree Narayan

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Dear Sanjay Ji & friends

 

While I agree that this principle should be applied carefully, I have

slightly different opinion about the example given for 10th house.

 

10H is for karma. 9H is for dharma. 12th house from any house is vyay.

 

When one gets "more" involved in karma, his dharma starts to suffer.

Best example is in family: when one starts to spend more time in

office (karma) his care for family starts suffering (dharma).

 

In fact its convers is also true: when one gets more involved in

dharma, his karma starts suffering. again, above example is

applicable only in other direction.

 

Is it not bhavat bhavam extended here.

 

shall appreciate if you can clarify.

 

best regards

 

Shree Narayan

 

 

vedic astrology, "sanjayprabhakaran"

<sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

>

> Dear Friends,

> The Bhavata Bhavam principle has to be used with thought. Just

> applying the House meaning 'as is' to other houses from houses may

> lead to mistakes.

> For example if 12th is called Vyaya and one calls Vyaya as Loss,

then

> if apply 12th from 10th is loss of 10th. Then you get Dharma is

> 'Loss' for Karma!. Which is not true. Now the students may think

as

> to how exactly to use 'Bhavaat Bhavam' principle.

>

> Regarding 10th house, 10th house is the heaven or sky, it's diety

is

> Indra, Indra is like Vishnu for Bhu loka needs(only). 10th house is

> the provider.

> In single income family there is usually one person who earns or

in

> case of Joint families where married siblings stay together All

income

> is usually given to the Head of the family, There fore that person

> acts as the 10th house. Usually it's the Father of the house.

>

> Warm Regards

> Sanjay P

>

> Hari Om Tat Sat

>

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Krithigaivasan

Radhakrishnan"

> <krithi.hayagriva@g...> wrote:

> > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

> >

> > Dear Utpal and NarayanShree,

> >

> > Namaste !

> >

> > Utpal,your explanation really sounds good.

> >

> > I remember that in Prasna Tantra,Shri Neelakanta Daivagyna also

> > quotes 10th house for Father.(Ref Prasna Tantra translated by

Holy

> > Shri B.V Raman)

> >

> > But in BPHS Maharishi Parasara clearly explains the life of

> > native's father by considering the lord of Dharma Bhava(9th

House)

> > and its strength.

> >

> > These difference of opinion between the great divine scholors

> > always confuses the learners like us.May be gurus shall guide us

more

> > in these situations.

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > krithi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

> > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > Dear Narayanshree,

> > >

> > > Though there is no difference of opinion for the house related

to

> > > mother, there is some difference of opinion for the house of

Father.

> > >

> > > Major astrological fraternity considers 9th house as house for

> > > Father, some astrologers, especially in northern part of India

> > takes

> > > 10th house.

> > >

> > > 10th house is 7th from mother's house and also the house of

Karma

> > > (Profession). In those earlier days, native use to take-up the

> > > profession of his father (ancestors) in most cases and father

was

> > > usually the main guiding force in work area for jataka, hence

the

> > > opinion of 10th house.

> > >

> > > Father is the first person, who gives the knowledge of Dharma

to a

> > > native, hence the majority (especially in south India) of

> > > astrologers considers 9th house for father even if it doesn't

fall

> > > in 7th from the house of mother.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Utpal

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "narayanshree"

> > > <shree.narayan@f...> wrote:

> > > > Dear friends

> > > >

> > > > It is said that to know about any relation take the

appropriate

> > > house

> > > > in natal chart as lagna and analyse.

> > > >

> > > > Taking this priciple for Father (9th house) - his spouse

> > (native's

> > > > mother) i.e. 7th from 9th is 3rd house whereas 4th house is

said

> > > to

> > > > signify mother.

> > > >

> > > > Same is the case for mother.

> > > >

> > > > Why this priciple is not applicable for these two most

important

> > > > relations in chart.

> > > >

> > > > Shall appreciate if you can claer my doubts.

> > > >

> > > > Best regards

> > > >

> > > > Shree Narayan

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Narayanashree & friends, Namaskar

 

Let me answer it this way:-

 

We know that the position of planets we take is a geo-centric

representation. The purpose of erecting a kundali is to study the

native born on the planet Earth. Same way the application of Jyotish

principles is to capture the native's point of view. (it can

certainly be extended but to a limited extent)

 

Consider the following, if you are reading two brothers' charts and

arrive at two different descriptions(not necessarily physical) of

their father, what it means;

it means that these are the two descriptions of the same father from

their respective view points.

 

We should not take this toofar to say that mother is the wife of

Father, daughter of grand father and so on and so forth.

 

My opinion is it is not meant to be used in this manner. For the

naive 4th from Lagna is Mother, 9th from Lagna is Father etc.,. If

younger sibling is 3rd house & elder sibling is 11th house - should

we see 5th, from 11th i.e., 3rd, to understand younger sibling?

Confusing. So, this arguement may not be used for saying 10th as the

house of father.

 

Also to read parents, D12 is the more appropriate chart. 9th house in

D1 can be father or Guru etc., also.

 

Just a view point :-))

 

 

Any comments?!!

 

regards

Surya

 

>

> vedic astrology, "sanjayprabhakaran"

> <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > The Bhavata Bhavam principle has to be used with thought. Just

> > applying the House meaning 'as is' to other houses from houses may

> > lead to mistakes.

> > For example if 12th is called Vyaya and one calls Vyaya as Loss,

> then

> > if apply 12th from 10th is loss of 10th. Then you get Dharma is

> > 'Loss' for Karma!. Which is not true. Now the students may

think

> as

> > to how exactly to use 'Bhavaat Bhavam' principle.

> >

> > Regarding 10th house, 10th house is the heaven or sky, it's

diety

> is

> > Indra, Indra is like Vishnu for Bhu loka needs(only). 10th house

is

> > the provider.

> > In single income family there is usually one person who earns

or

> in

> > case of Joint families where married siblings stay together All

> income

> > is usually given to the Head of the family, There fore that person

> > acts as the 10th house. Usually it's the Father of the house.

> >

> > Warm Regards

> > Sanjay P

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Krithigaivasan

> Radhakrishnan"

> > <krithi.hayagriva@g...> wrote:

> > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||

> > >

> > > Dear Utpal and NarayanShree,

> > >

> > > Namaste !

> > >

> > > Utpal,your explanation really sounds good.

> > >

> > > I remember that in Prasna Tantra,Shri Neelakanta Daivagyna

also

> > > quotes 10th house for Father.(Ref Prasna Tantra translated by

> Holy

> > > Shri B.V Raman)

> > >

> > > But in BPHS Maharishi Parasara clearly explains the life of

> > > native's father by considering the lord of Dharma Bhava(9th

> House)

> > > and its strength.

> > >

> > > These difference of opinion between the great divine scholors

> > > always confuses the learners like us.May be gurus shall guide

us

> more

> > > in these situations.

> > >

> > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > krithi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "utpal pathak"

> > > <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > Dear Narayanshree,

> > > >

> > > > Though there is no difference of opinion for the house

related

> to

> > > > mother, there is some difference of opinion for the house of

> Father.

> > > >

> > > > Major astrological fraternity considers 9th house as house

for

> > > > Father, some astrologers, especially in northern part of

India

> > > takes

> > > > 10th house.

> > > >

> > > > 10th house is 7th from mother's house and also the house of

> Karma

> > > > (Profession). In those earlier days, native use to take-up

the

> > > > profession of his father (ancestors) in most cases and father

> was

> > > > usually the main guiding force in work area for jataka, hence

> the

> > > > opinion of 10th house.

> > > >

> > > > Father is the first person, who gives the knowledge of Dharma

> to a

> > > > native, hence the majority (especially in south India) of

> > > > astrologers considers 9th house for father even if it doesn't

> fall

> > > > in 7th from the house of mother.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Utpal

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "narayanshree"

> > > > <shree.narayan@f...> wrote:

> > > > > Dear friends

> > > > >

> > > > > It is said that to know about any relation take the

> appropriate

> > > > house

> > > > > in natal chart as lagna and analyse.

> > > > >

> > > > > Taking this priciple for Father (9th house) - his spouse

> > > (native's

> > > > > mother) i.e. 7th from 9th is 3rd house whereas 4th house is

> said

> > > > to

> > > > > signify mother.

> > > > >

> > > > > Same is the case for mother.

> > > > >

> > > > > Why this priciple is not applicable for these two most

> important

> > > > > relations in chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > Shall appreciate if you can claer my doubts.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Shree Narayan

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We know that the position of planets we take is a geo-centricrepresentation.

Would love to hear the gurus' verdict on this one, because I don't use geocentric settings in JH.

We should not take this too far to say that mother is the wife of Father

In some cases, she could be, you know :^)If younger sibling is 3rd house &

elder sibling is 11th house - should we see 5th, from 11th i.e., 3rd, to

understand younger sibling?

I thought the logic behind this was that 3rd from 11th is the younger, and 3rd

thereon (which is the 3rd house) the other younger one. Much like how the 6th

represents higher education, being 3rd from 4th.Energumen-----Other than that,

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Dear Energumen

 

Just a query: does 5H represent primary education & 5th to 5H i.e. 9H

higher education... or 6H shows higher education?

 

Regards

 

Shree Narayan

 

vedic astrology, Energumen <vernalagnia>

wrote:

> SuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham@g...> wrote:

> We know that the position of planets we take is a geo-centric

> representation.

>

> Would love to hear the gurus' verdict on this one, because I don't

use geocentric settings in JH.

>

> We should not take this too far to say that mother is the wife of

Father

>

> In some cases, she could be, you know :^)

>

> If younger sibling is 3rd house & elder sibling is 11th house -

should we see 5th, from 11th i.e., 3rd, to understand younger sibling?

>

>

> I thought the logic behind this was that 3rd from 11th is the

younger, and 3rd thereon (which is the 3rd house) the other younger

one. Much like how the 6th represents higher education, being 3rd

from 4th.

>

>

>

> Energumen

>

> -----

> Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

>

>

>

>

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Higher: 3H from 4H = 6H

 

Narayana dasa of D-1, which is essentially a form of progression of the lagna,

should also give vital clues.narayanshree <shree.narayan (AT) fluor (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear EnergumenJust a query: does 5H represent primary education & 5th to 5H i.e.

9H higher education... or 6H shows higher education?RegardsShree

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