Premonitions about death - Shri Sanjay p.

July 12, 2005

Namaste Sanjayji,

Thanks for your note & it was a new learning for me. will you pl.

clarify here about the quality of Aspect of Ju or Venus on 3rd from

AL.

I mean id it Rashi Aspect or Graha Drashti. and what if AK is in 3rd

from AL? can AK in 3rd from AL give premonition of death as AK is

the representative of Soul in current incarnation

warm regards,

utpal pathak

vedic astrology, "sanjayprabhakaran"

<sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> || Om Gurave namah ||

>

> Namaste Jyothi,

>

> > 1. I would like to know if there are any planetary

combinations that

> > will give a person premonitions about his own death.

>

> Sanjay P: The 3rd from AL indicates circumstances at death. If

Jupiter

> aspects 3rd from AL then knowledge of death before hand is

possible.

> This includes Premonitions. If Venus aspects then Relative could

get

> the before hand knowledge. This includes death in Coma etc.

>

> > 2. Also I would like to know if the astrologers, since they are

well

> > sure of their own chart, make out the period when they will pass

away?

>

> SanjayP: Many Jyotishas and spiritualists have known their time of

death.

>

> > Because I always used to think when an astrologer makes a

correct

> > prediction about illness etc, 'he may be knowing his death

time ' also!!

> >

> > Plz dont tell me "Who else but Brahma can decide ones period of

death'.

> > Since jyotisha can indicate everything,I believe it can indicate

death

> > also.

>

> SanjayP: Jyotish's foundation is Law Karma. Karma fructifies at

given

> place, time and with a certain person. (Space/Time and Jeevatma)

>

> For example if you committed say a crime then it has to fructify in

> Jail and not a holiday resort. If you did some work to win say a

trip

> Hawaii or some hill station , It has to fructify in such a hill

> station etc else it will not make sense.

> Similarly the duration of Stay in this Bhu loka is also determined.

> Time is controlled by Lord Shiva, And one of his Dasa called Shoola

> dasa (Trident holders Dasa) can give clues to duration of Life on

this

> Bhu loka.

>

> Warm Regards

> Sanjay P

>

> > Regards,

> > jyothi

July 13, 2005

Dear Sanjay P & Utpal ji

If 3rd from AL does not have any aspect from Ju then

look at 8th from AL for the influence of Jupiter. 8th

from AL acts as secondary source for a person to know

about the Death. 3rd from AL can show only the

circumstances of death but Ju has to be necessarily

involved either with 3rd or 8th from Al for

premonition. I remember having read this in Jaimini's

sutras translated by our guru dev Sanjayji.

Also always look for Rasi drishti as graha drishti is

only desires.

Ak in 3rd from AL is an interesting position as

Normally dasa of AK or sign containing does not kill a

person. It only teaches harsh lessons to one to over

come the bad karma one has accumulated.makes one to

repent and cleanse hime from all sins. Frankly I can

tell you this. If AK is Ju then surely one will know

forehand. about other planets I am not sure.

Hope this helps.

Lakshman

--- utpal pathak <vedic_pathak wrote:

> Namaste Sanjayji,

>

> Thanks for your note & it was a new learning for me.

> will you pl.

> clarify here about the quality of Aspect of Ju or

> Venus on 3rd from

> AL.

>

> I mean id it Rashi Aspect or Graha Drashti. and what

> if AK is in 3rd

> from AL? can AK in 3rd from AL give premonition of

> death as AK is

> the representative of Soul in current incarnation

>

> warm regards,

>

> utpal pathak

>

> vedic astrology,

> "sanjayprabhakaran"

> <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> > || Om Gurave namah ||

> >

> > Namaste Jyothi,

> >

> > > 1. I would like to know if there are any

> planetary

> combinations that

> > > will give a person premonitions about his own

> death.

> >

> > Sanjay P: The 3rd from AL indicates circumstances

> at death. If

> Jupiter

> > aspects 3rd from AL then knowledge of death

> before hand is

> possible.

> > This includes Premonitions. If Venus aspects then

> Relative could

> get

> > the before hand knowledge. This includes death in

> Coma etc.

> >

> > > 2. Also I would like to know if the astrologers,

> since they are

> well

> > > sure of their own chart, make out the period

> when they will pass

> away?

> >

> > SanjayP: Many Jyotishas and spiritualists have

> known their time of

> death.

> >

> > > Because I always used to think when an

> astrologer makes a

> correct

> > > prediction about illness etc, 'he may be knowing

> his death

> time ' also!!

> > >

> > > Plz dont tell me "Who else but Brahma can decide

> ones period of

> death'.

> > > Since jyotisha can indicate everything,I believe

> it can indicate

> death

> > > also.

> >

> > SanjayP: Jyotish's foundation is Law Karma. Karma

> fructifies at

> given

> > place, time and with a certain person. (Space/Time

> and Jeevatma)

> >

> > For example if you committed say a crime then it

> has to fructify in

> > Jail and not a holiday resort. If you did some

> work to win say a

> trip

> > Hawaii or some hill station , It has to fructify

> in such a hill

> > station etc else it will not make sense.

> > Similarly the duration of Stay in this Bhu loka is

> also determined.

> > Time is controlled by Lord Shiva, And one of his

> Dasa called Shoola

> > dasa (Trident holders Dasa) can give clues to

> duration of Life on

> this

> > Bhu loka.

> >

> > Warm Regards

> > Sanjay P

> >

> > > Regards,

> > > jyothi

>

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July 13, 2005

Namaste,

I was pondering on this issue. My points are given below.

If we take the Rashi Lagna as the ref. point, we have 8th house as Primary bhava

and 3rd is a Secondary Bhava (8th from 8th) for the matter related to longevity

viz-a-viz end of life.

Now extending the same principle w.r.t AL, 8th from it should become the Primary

bhava & 3rd as a secondary place for deciding matter related to death

circumstances. My view point is that Jupiter's Primary connection to 8th Bhava

from AL can give the premonition of death or may be a peaceful death and same

thing can be considered also with 3rd house secondarily.

those are my views after some thinking and i may be wrong and further like to

have your views on it.

best regards

utpal Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma > wrote:

Dear Sanjay P & Utpal jiIf 3rd from AL does not have any aspect from Ju thenlook

at 8th from AL for the influence of Jupiter. 8thfrom AL acts as secondary source

for a person to knowabout the Death. 3rd from AL can show only thecircumstances

of death but Ju has to be necessarilyinvolved either with 3rd or 8th from Al

forpremonition. I remember having read this in Jaimini'ssutras translated by

our guru dev Sanjayji.Also always look for Rasi drishti as graha drishti isonly

desires.Ak in 3rd from AL is an interesting position asNormally dasa of AK or

sign containing does not kill aperson. It only teaches harsh lessons to one to

overcome the bad karma one has accumulated.makes one torepent and cleanse hime

from all sins. Frankly I cantell you this. If AK is Ju then surely one will

knowforehand. about other planets

I am not sure.Hope this helps.Lakshman--- utpal pathak <vedic_pathak >

wrote:> Namaste Sanjayji,> > Thanks for your note & it was a new learning for

me.> will you pl. > clarify here about the quality of Aspect of Ju or> Venus on

3rd from > AL.> > I mean id it Rashi Aspect or Graha Drashti. and what> if AK is

in 3rd > from AL? can AK in 3rd from AL give premonition of> death as AK is >

the representative of Soul in current incarnation> > warm regards,> > utpal

pathak> > vedic astrology,> "sanjayprabhakaran" >

<sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:> > || Om Gurave namah ||> > > > Namaste Jyothi,> >

> > > 1. I would like to know if there are any> planetary > combinations that

> >

> will give a person premonitions about his own> death. > > > > > > Sanjay P:

The 3rd from AL indicates circumstances> at death. If > Jupiter> > aspects 3rd

from AL then knowledge of death> before hand is > possible.> > This includes

Premonitions. If Venus aspects then> Relative could > get> > the before hand

knowledge. This includes death in> Coma etc.> > > > > 2. Also I would like to

know if the astrologers,> since they are > well > > > sure of their own chart,

make out the period> when they will pass > away? > > > > SanjayP: Many

Jyotishas and spiritualists have> known their time of > death.> > > > > Because

I always used to think when an> astrologer makes a > correct > > > prediction

about illness etc,

'he may be knowing> his death > time ' also!!> > > > > > Plz dont tell me "Who

else but Brahma can decide> ones period of > death'. > > > Since jyotisha can

indicate everything,I believe> it can indicate > death > > > also.> > > > > >

SanjayP: Jyotish's foundation is Law Karma. Karma> fructifies at > given> >

place, time and with a certain person. (Space/Time> and Jeevatma)> > > > For

example if you committed say a crime then it> has to fructify in> > Jail and

not a holiday resort. If you did some> work to win say a > trip> > Hawaii or

some hill station , It has to fructify> in such a hill> > station etc else it

will not make sense.> > Similarly the duration of Stay in this Bhu loka is>

also determined.> > Time is controlled by

Lord Shiva, And one of his> Dasa called Shoola> > dasa (Trident holders Dasa)

can give clues to> duration of Life on > this> > Bhu loka.> > > > Warm Regards>

> Sanjay P> > > > > > > Regards,> > > jyothi> > >

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July 14, 2005

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Dear Lakshman Brahma Ji and others,

Please refer to Upadesa Sutras of Jaimini ,translated by Shri Sanjay,Chapter

2,Quarter 2,28th Shloka which tells :GURUSHUKRAABHYAAM JNAANAPURVAKAM " meaning

if Guru or Shukra is in 3rd house from Lagna indicate awareness of period of

death.In my chart, Makara Lagna, 3rd lord Guru is in 3rd itself vargothama,so I

have already calculated my death !!!When I went to Vaideshwaran Temple for Nadi

reading,there my Nadi tells the same age as I predicted.

3rd house is 8th from 8th house and so the result.

I hope this helps.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma > wrote: