Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Sorry to interrupt your conversation with Krithiji.I just want to understand what u mean by stronger than....Whether..exaltation/aspect...etc. Please clearly tell me the meaning of the word.stronger than. Thanks and regards Balaji Ganuraagsharma27 <anuraagsharma27 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Krithi,Thank you for your opinion. I agree. It was just the situation where the 7th from the UL is stronger, merely for the judgment of the Lagna of the spouse. For all other matters, I believe the Ul should be the indicator.Best wishes.Anurag.vedic astrology, "Krithigaivasan Radhakrishnan" <krithi.hayagriva@g...> wrote:> || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||> > Dear Anurag,> > Namaste !> > In my opinion,UL never looses it significance.UL may be very weaker > than any other house but still it is the house which describes the > attributes of one's spouse and spouse's family.Even for frutification > of second marriage and so on..the deity and day of first UL is very > important for Fasting.> > To my knowledge,Ideal lagna of spouse could be UL ,Trines to UL and > 7th from UL.Some times the planets in UL and Trines to it decides the > lagna of spouse.If we choose the spouse by following this rule then > the possibility of breaking of marriage in mutual Willingness won't > occur.I mean to say that this reduces the difference of opinions b/w > the couples and give good harmony in their relationship.> > One very important thing to take care while matching the > horoscopes is to see the tathva's related to native's UL and the > spouse's lagna.If both these tathvas are mutual conflicting then it > is better to avoid such match.> > Remember to consider other matchings also.> > Hope this helps.> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Best Regards,> > krithi> > > > > > vedic astrology, "anuraagsharma27" > <anuraagsharma27@h...> wrote:> > Dear Mr. Krithi,> > > > In your experience, while Judging the Lagna of the spouse from the > > UL, if the 7th from the UL is stronger, does the UL Rashi lose > > significance totally and the Rashis in trines to the UL ignored as > > possible matches? Or, is it that there is a 'choice' between > > determining the probable Lagna of the spouse from the UL or the 7th > > from it?> > > > Look forward to your input.> > > > Best wishes.> > > > Anurag Sharma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Krithigaivasan > > Radhakrishnan" <krithi.hayagriva@g...> wrote:> > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||> > > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > > Namaste !> > > > > > Hope you read Narayanji's reply to your mail.I fully agree > with > > > him.If UL is 12th from AL in any chart,there could be difference > > of > > > opinions between native and his/her spouse.But this difference of > > > opinion will get reduced if the native's spouse's lagna is trines > > to > > > native's UL.In this case the tatwas becomes same and it helps a > > lot > > > in nullifying the problems due to bad placement of UL with > respect > > to > > > AL.> > > > > > Hope this helps.> > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > Best Regards,> > > > > > Mr.Krithi )> > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "jyothi_lakshmi_b" > > > <jyothi_lakshmi_b> wrote:> > > > Dear krithi,> > > > > > > > If UL is in 12th of AL , does the native abandons > > the > > > > spouse or will the native be abondoned by the spouse? Though in > > > > effect both are same, who will take the initiative? How can we > > > > identify the reasons for abandoning.? Kindly clear these doubts > > too.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Jyothi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Krithigaivasan > > > > Radhakrishnan" <krithi.hayagriva@g...> wrote:> > > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||> > > > > > > > > > Dear Karan,> > > > > > > > > > Namaste !> > > > > > > > > > If you explore the older mails of this group,you will > > surely > > > > find > > > > > that to be a great resource of learning astrology.I'll give > my > > > > answer > > > > > to your question now..> > > > > > > > > > If AL & UL combined,the native will have good harmonic > > > > > relationship with his wife.This is assured if Venus is well > > > placed > > > > > with respect to AL and if AK & DK are mutually well placed.In > > the > > > > > combination you mentioned the lords of AL and UL will be the > > same > > > > > planet,so the native's image and reputation may rise after > the > > > > > marriage.We should also check some other factors before > > deciding > > > > > anything.> > > > > > > > > > Simple rule is,just check the placement of any arudha > pada > > > with > > > > > respect to AL and decide the results.These are some basic > > rules > > > and > > > > > we should analyse the other aspects of the horoscope before > > > > > concluding.> > > > > > > > > > It is said that if UL is 12th from AL then the native > > rejects > > > > the > > > > > spouse.But this is not the ONLY combination which makes the > > > native > > > > to > > > > > reject his/her spouse.As i said earlied check the mutual > > > placement > > > > of > > > > > AK & DK.> > > > > > > > > > Now coming to the point,placement of UL with respect to > > > > > lagna.This is very important.We know that UL tells about > > nature > > > of > > > > > spouse and spouse's family.If UL is placed in 9th house...it > > may > > > > > indicate the below said things,> > > > > > > > > > - Native fortune(9th house) comes/rises after marriage> > > > > - Native may marry some one from his paternal(father -9th > > > > house) > > > > > relation. > > > > > - Native's marriage related doshas will get removed just by > > > > > visiting temples(9th house),following Dharmic life(9th house)> > > > > > > > > > Some more things like this shall be predicted by seeing > all > > > the > > > > > karakatwas of 9th bhava.Now you try to think about placement > > of > > > UL > > > > in > > > > > other houses.Logic is simple ..see the karakatwas of the > bhava > > > and > > > > > predict the results.Also think about the placement of other > > padas > > > > > with respect to lagna and AL.> > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps.> > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > > > > > Best Regards,> > > > > > > > > > krithi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "vivahsearch" > > > > > <vivahsearch> wrote:> > > > > > Respected Guruji's> > > > > > > > > > > > Pls shed some light on the case where AL and UL are in the > > same > > > > > sign > > > > > > of Virgo in 9th House> > > > > > > > > > > > KaranArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 It is quite a long time we have talked. hope your Law Practise is getting better & better with Saturn's exit. Now AL & UL Combined can also Show that the Person in question gains his/her Reputation by Sacrifices or Simply he is better known in Society for his Scarifcing deeds. The logic behind above is easily understandable. w.r.t Spouse, It is possible that Husband & wife have simmilarity in their Status in society and their relationship seems to be compatible (Such as made for each other kind) to the world outside. warm regards utpal Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Dear Rafal, I had the occasion to discuss the chart in relation to the UL at SJC Delhi. Now, the principle about the transit of Jupiter is that it should aspect the 2nd from UL/ conjoin it. But should that apply to both charts or just one is enough. Visti insisted that I wait till Jupiter reached Scorpio since then it would aspect Aries, the 2nd from UL with Rashi Drishti. He also opined that since Guru aspected both lords of the 7th, Rahu and Shani with Graha Drishti, I was likely to meet the future spouse before Guru moved to Libra. In view of the fact that Rahu is in the 6th and Shani is in the 10th, do you think the spouse could be working? Also, in view of Rahu's influence and the conjunction of Saturn with the Moon, the 12th Lord, do you think there would be a foreign element to this. Mars in Navamsha Lagna is also the 12th Lord. Thanks. Anurag Sharma. vedic astrology, "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme@w...> wrote: > Dear Anurag Sharma, > > Comments below. > > with regards, > Rafal Gendarz > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Thank you for your views. They impart objectivity to one's own > > chart. Once again, I agree with your interpretation. > > > > By second marriage, I also implied marrying someone already married > > before. With Guru in the 5th House with Chesta Bal, it could show > > fulfilling a destined Karmic love, even if the superficial traits of > > the Mars-Venus Rashi Drishti to UL also manifest. > > > > Mars in Navamsha Lagna shows my temperament. The Rashi Drishti of > > the Gajkesrai Yoga from the 3rd Bhava in Navamsha curtails > > unreasonableness in anger but once roused due to vulgarity, it has > > benn difficult to control, especially in the Rahu Dasha till 1997. > > > > Why did you judge the temperament of the spouse from Mangal in > > Navamsha Lagna? Don't you think Budh in the 7th H will have slightly > > more to offer. Mars is perhaps more focal for me. > > Yes. Character will be dominated by planets in Trikona to 7H, but what he is doing is whole Navamsa. Mars in 7 gives over- protectivness. > Mars in Your Navamsa Lagna tells about You in relation. Mars. > > > > > > > > Also, it might indicate marrying to a person with a higher status > > than one's own, due to exaltation of the UL Lord in Navamsha. > > > > Your Guru is right. This Brihaspati completely altered life from > > Rahu MD. First mythic thought, then Jyotish, then alteration of the > > physical body, all these results have been gicen by this Guru. This > > has been the greatest protection in the terribly Karmic and > > transformatory Sade-Sati and Kantak Shani, offering its material > > wealth and relative wisdom through the exclusion of the Lord of > > Karma Shani in the SS. > > > > Rafal, the Meena Navamsha Narayan dasha is extremely illustrative of > > the Dharmic changes in my personality, and ALSO IN THE "VISIBLE > > DHARMIC PERSONALITY' SHOWN BY THE AL IN NAVAMSHA. > > Pay attention to starting Narayana Dasa from 7L. > > > > > I understand that you cited Prashna Marga to show that AL had degree > > but intuitively I feel that the visible personality can be seen from > > the independently calculated AL in Navamsha and other Vargas. Sanjay > > Ji has also used this in all his works, as has PVR Narasimha Rao. > > What I wrote is not my view, it is view from my Guruji, who again was take it from Sanjay Ji. I talked with Him a lot about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| Dear Utpal and List Members, Namaskaar. Allow me to share some of my understanding.... Where the AL and the UL sit together, only 1 will rise (at a time). This leads to the compromising nature of either the native or the significant other. Consider the AL to that of the Sun, whereas the UL to that of Venus.... Best wishes, Nitin. || Namah Shivaaya || vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote: > Hi Anurag, > > It is quite a long time we have talked. hope your Law Practise is getting better & better with Saturn's exit. > > Now AL & UL Combined can also Show that the Person in question gains his/her Reputation by Sacrifices or Simply he is better known in Society for his Scarifcing deeds. The logic behind above is easily understandable. > > w.r.t Spouse, It is possible that Husband & wife have simmilarity in their Status in society and their relationship seems to be compatible (Such as made for each other kind) to the world outside. > > warm regards > > utpal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Dear Nitinji Namaste, > Where the AL and the UL sit together, only 1 will rise (at a time). > This leads to the compromising nature of either the native or the > significant other. I am not quite clear on your views. if the Manifestation of Self & 12 th house or for that matter any two or more houses, if fall in same house / Rashi then how only one Arudha can rise from more than one Arudhas. my point is that every Human or relationship has the Visible Status as percieved by the world. The point of Compromising naure if many Arudhas are combinedly placed seems to be logical. hope to rec'v further understanding from you regards utpal vedic astrology, "Nitin" <astronitin> wrote: > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > Dear Utpal and List Members, Namaskaar. > > Allow me to share some of my understanding.... > > Where the AL and the UL sit together, only 1 will rise (at a time). > This leads to the compromising nature of either the native or the > significant other. > > Consider the AL to that of the Sun, whereas the UL to that of Venus.... > > Best wishes, > Nitin. > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > Hi Anurag, > > > > It is quite a long time we have talked. hope your Law Practise is > getting better & better with Saturn's exit. > > > > Now AL & UL Combined can also Show that the Person in question gains > his/her Reputation by Sacrifices or Simply he is better known in > Society for his Scarifcing deeds. The logic behind above is easily > understandable. > > > > w.r.t Spouse, It is possible that Husband & wife have simmilarity in > their Status in society and their relationship seems to be compatible > (Such as made for each other kind) to the world outside. > > > > warm regards > > > > utpal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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