Guest guest Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Mr.Karthigaivasan, My reason is simple, the Astrological solutions could be attempted either with birth chart (a cumbersome procedure) or by an instant prasna chart when the querist put his query direct to an Astrologer to get his problem solved, and the Astrologer has the option to decide the chart on the basis of samaya sangalpha (viz.time of query, direction of the querist, count the sumbhogam etc.,) The relationship exist as that of the Sishya and Guru / Aacharya. In the Puzzle the querist is testing / judging the Astrologer’s capability. Here position is completely reversed the above situation. Further the puzzle is examined by many Astrologers belonging to different Time zones with different different etc., In order to narrow down the possibility for one / nearest to answer I have chosen a common time and a Lagna that persisted for a longer duration. Best wishes. --- Krithigaivasan R <krithi.hayagriva wrote: > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu || > > Dear Dhananjayan, > > Namaste ! > > May i know the reason why you made the prasna chart > for Monday the 4th > July 05 @ 21.30 hrs. for B'lore ? > > Prasna chart should either be plotted when the > person raises the > question or when the astrologer attempts to find the > solution.In b/w i > take the chart given by you as the chart of Transit > for monday the 4th > July 05 @ 21.30 hrs. for B'lore.It just shows the > planetory positions > on the said date and time.How does this chart help > us to predict the > event happened in MY LIFE ? > > Have you considered my natal chart for predicting > this event ? > > As i said earlier,i'll post the event on coming > monday. > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Best Regards, > > krithi > > > > > On 7/5/05, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya > wrote: > > > > The Prasna chart was made for Monday the 4th July > 05 @ > > 21.30 hrs. for B'lore. > > Aquarius Lagna, Sani the Lagna (mana) & 12th > (sayana > > suka) Lord is associated with Venus the 4th & 9th > > (suka and bhagya) Lord and with Mercury the 5th & > 8th > > (buthi & miscellaneous bad events in life) Lord > are > > placed in the 6th house (rouna, rouga, kaama) > > The parivardhana between the Lords of 4th and 6th > > house also indicates suka – rouga parivardhana. > The > > 7th Lord (partner and hot jade) Sun is placed in > its > > Laabha house. The 2nd house is debilitated by the > > presence of krora in it and its (Dhana) Lord is > > debilitated by its placement in the dusthana 8th > > house. > > When the above indications are studied the native > had > > under gone immoral experiences for bed pleasure > and at > > the hands of a sad jade sustained monetary and > health > > losses. > > Learn to save from pitfall in predictions. > > > > --- Krithigaivasan R <krithi.hayagriva > > wrote: > > > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu || > > > > > > Dear Jyothishas, > > > > > > Pranams ! > > > > > > An unexpected event happened in my life on 4th > > > July 2005.As a clue > > > i'll give the time range..its in b/w 9 PM IST to > 10 > > > PM IST.During that > > > time i was in Bangalore,India. > > > > > > I invite all the learned learned/learning > > > astrologers to identify > > > the event.As usual gurus shall guide us. > > > > > > My birth chart is attached... > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Krithi > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > With Regards, > R.Krithigaivasan > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > || > Links > > > vedic astrology > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu || Dear Dhananjayan, Namaste ! I agree that the Astrological solutions could be attempted either with birth chart (a cumbersome procedure) or by an instant prasna chart when the querist put his query direct to an Astrologer to get his problem solved.That is i totally agree that without the use of natal chart and just by using prasna chart we can predict any event. I also agree that different astrologers reads the puzzle in different time. Now the question is,what time is to be taken for plotting the prasana chart ? You have taken the time of the event that happened. I have different opinion on this.If we follow your first statement,astrologers should plot the prasna chart when he hears the puzzle,since we are positing the puzzle in e-mail we shall take the time of query as time of reading the mail.I know some other astrologers plot the prasna char when they attempts to solve the problem. But you have taken the time of prasna as the time of the event.Prasna deals with queries..No query was there during the time of the event.In fact that even had made the person to ask query.Then how do you relate the time of the event with time of the prasna ? So i don't agree with plotting the prasna chart by taking the time of event. || Hare Rama Krishna || Best Regards, krithi vedic astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya> wrote: > Mr.Karthigaivasan, > My reason is simple, the Astrological solutions could > be attempted either with birth chart (a cumbersome > procedure) or by an instant prasna chart when the > querist put his query direct to an Astrologer to get > his problem solved, and the Astrologer has the option > to decide the chart on the basis of samaya sangalpha > (viz.time of query, direction of the querist, count > the sumbhogam etc.,) The relationship exist as that of > the Sishya and Guru / Aacharya. > In the Puzzle the querist is testing / judging the > Astrologer's capability. Here position is completely > reversed the above situation. Further the puzzle is > examined by many Astrologers belonging to different > Time zones with different different etc., In order to > narrow down the possibility for one / nearest to > answer I have chosen a common time and a Lagna that > persisted for a longer duration. > Best wishes. > > > --- Krithigaivasan R <krithi.hayagriva@g...> > wrote: > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu || > > > > Dear Dhananjayan, > > > > Namaste ! > > > > May i know the reason why you made the prasna chart > > for Monday the 4th > > July 05 @ 21.30 hrs. for B'lore ? > > > > Prasna chart should either be plotted when the > > person raises the > > question or when the astrologer attempts to find the > > solution.In b/w i > > take the chart given by you as the chart of Transit > > for monday the 4th > > July 05 @ 21.30 hrs. for B'lore.It just shows the > > planetory positions > > on the said date and time.How does this chart help > > us to predict the > > event happened in MY LIFE ? > > > > Have you considered my natal chart for predicting > > this event ? > > > > As i said earlier,i'll post the event on coming > > monday. > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Best Regards, > > > > krithi > > > > > > > > > > On 7/5/05, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya> > > wrote: > > > > > > The Prasna chart was made for Monday the 4th July > > 05 @ > > > 21.30 hrs. for B'lore. > > > Aquarius Lagna, Sani the Lagna (mana) & 12th > > (sayana > > > suka) Lord is associated with Venus the 4th & 9th > > > (suka and bhagya) Lord and with Mercury the 5th & > > 8th > > > (buthi & miscellaneous bad events in life) Lord > > are > > > placed in the 6th house (rouna, rouga, kaama) > > > The parivardhana between the Lords of 4th and 6th > > > house also indicates suka – rouga parivardhana. > > The > > > 7th Lord (partner and hot jade) Sun is placed in > > its > > > Laabha house. The 2nd house is debilitated by the > > > presence of krora in it and its (Dhana) Lord is > > > debilitated by its placement in the dusthana 8th > > > house. > > > When the above indications are studied the native > > had > > > under gone immoral experiences for bed pleasure > > and at > > > the hands of a sad jade sustained monetary and > > health > > > losses. > > > Learn to save from pitfall in predictions. > > > > > > --- Krithigaivasan R <krithi.hayagriva@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu || > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothishas, > > > > > > > > Pranams ! > > > > > > > > An unexpected event happened in my life on 4th > > > > July 2005.As a clue > > > > i'll give the time range..its in b/w 9 PM IST to > > 10 > > > > PM IST.During that > > > > time i was in Bangalore,India. > > > > > > > > I invite all the learned learned/learning > > > > astrologers to identify > > > > the event.As usual gurus shall guide us. > > > > > > > > My birth chart is attached... > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Krithi > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > With Regards, > > R.Krithigaivasan > > > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > > || > > Links > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Mr.Kirthi, We practice Vedic – Astrology, Mahagarishis and great Vedic Astrologers like Dr.B.V.Raman have advocated that presana Sasthra to be used sparingly for solving genuine ticklish problems (not to be used for playful objectives). I respect their words, and consider that puzzles do not fall under the previews of the prasana sasthra. My stand in this regard had already been advised to you in my earlier mail which reads as quote: “In the Puzzle the querist is testing / judging the Astrologer's capability. Here position is completely reversed” Unquote: It was also with the above presumptions; I have given my answers to your puzzle by utilizing the available information in your 1st mail to the list. As the author of the puzzle you have the ‘key’, upto you to take / leave my answer. --- Krithigaivasan Radhakrishnan <krithi.hayagriva wrote: > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu || > > Dear Dhananjayan, > > Namaste ! > > I agree that the Astrological solutions could be > attempted either > with birth chart (a cumbersome procedure) or by an > instant prasna > chart when the querist put his query direct to an > Astrologer to get > his problem solved.That is i totally agree that > without the use of > natal chart and just by using prasna chart we can > predict any event. > I also agree that different astrologers reads the > puzzle in different > time. > > Now the question is,what time is to be taken for > plotting the > prasana chart ? You have taken the time of the event > that happened. > I have different opinion on this.If we follow your > first > statement,astrologers should plot the prasna chart > when he hears the > puzzle,since we are positing the puzzle in e-mail we > shall take the > time of query as time of reading the mail.I know > some other > astrologers plot the prasna char when they attempts > to solve the > problem. > > But you have taken the time of prasna as the time > of the > event.Prasna deals with queries..No query was there > during the time > of the event.In fact that even had made the person > to ask query.Then > how do you relate the time of the event with time of > the prasna ? So > i don't agree with plotting the prasna chart by > taking the time of > event. > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Best Regards, > > krithi > vedic astrology, Dhananjayan > Brahma > <abhanaya> wrote: > > Mr.Karthigaivasan, > > My reason is simple, the Astrological solutions > could > > be attempted either with birth chart (a cumbersome > > procedure) or by an instant prasna chart when the > > querist put his query direct to an Astrologer to > get > > his problem solved, and the Astrologer has the > option > > to decide the chart on the basis of samaya > sangalpha > > (viz.time of query, direction of the querist, > count > > the sumbhogam etc.,) The relationship exist as > that of > > the Sishya and Guru / Aacharya. > > In the Puzzle the querist is testing / judging the > > Astrologer's capability. Here position is > completely > > reversed the above situation. Further the puzzle > is > > examined by many Astrologers belonging to > different > > Time zones with different different etc., In order > to > > narrow down the possibility for one / nearest to > > answer I have chosen a common time and a Lagna > that > > persisted for a longer duration. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > --- Krithigaivasan R <krithi.hayagriva@g...> > > wrote: > > > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu || > > > > > > Dear Dhananjayan, > > > > > > Namaste ! > > > > > > May i know the reason why you made the prasna > chart > > > for Monday the 4th > > > July 05 @ 21.30 hrs. for B'lore ? > > > > > > Prasna chart should either be plotted when the > > > person raises the > > > question or when the astrologer attempts to find > the > > > solution.In b/w i > > > take the chart given by you as the chart of > Transit > > > for monday the 4th > > > July 05 @ 21.30 hrs. for B'lore.It just shows > the > > > planetory positions > > > on the said date and time.How does this chart > help > > > us to predict the > > > event happened in MY LIFE ? > > > > > > Have you considered my natal chart for > predicting > > > this event ? > > > > > > As i said earlier,i'll post the event on coming > > > monday. > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > krithi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/5/05, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > The Prasna chart was made for Monday the 4th > July > > > 05 @ > > > > 21.30 hrs. for B'lore. > > > > Aquarius Lagna, Sani the Lagna (mana) & 12th > > > (sayana > > > > suka) Lord is associated with Venus the 4th & > 9th > > > > (suka and bhagya) Lord and with Mercury the > 5th & > > > 8th > > > > (buthi & miscellaneous bad events in life) > Lord > > > are > > > > placed in the 6th house (rouna, rouga, kaama) > > > > The parivardhana between the Lords of 4th and > 6th > > > > house also indicates suka – rouga > parivardhana. > > > The > > > > 7th Lord (partner and hot jade) Sun is placed > in > > > its > > > > Laabha house. The 2nd house is debilitated by > the > > > > presence of krora in it and its (Dhana) Lord > is > > > > debilitated by its placement in the dusthana > 8th > > > > house. > > > > When the above indications are studied the > native > > > had > > > > under gone immoral experiences for bed > pleasure > > > and at > > > > the hands of a sad jade sustained monetary and > > > health > > > > losses. > > > > Learn to save from pitfall in predictions. > > > > > > > > --- Krithigaivasan R <krithi.hayagriva@g...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothishas, > > > > > > > > > > Pranams ! > > > > > > > > > > An unexpected event happened in my life on > 4th > > > > > July 2005.As a clue > > > > > i'll give the time range..its in b/w 9 PM > IST to > > > 10 > > > > > PM IST.During that > > > > > time i was in Bangalore,India. > > > > > > > > > > I invite all the learned learned/learning > > > > > astrologers to identify > === message truncated === Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. 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Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Mr.Kirthi, We practice Vedic – Astrology, Mahagarishis and great Vedic Astrologers like Dr.B.V.Raman have advocated that presana Sasthra to be used sparingly for solving genuine ticklish problems (not to be used for playful objectives). I respect their words, and consider that puzzles do not fall under the previews of the prasana sasthra. My stand in this regard had already been advised to you in my earlier mail which reads as quote: “In the Puzzle the querist is testing / judging the Astrologer's capability. Here position is completely reversed” Unquote: It was also with the above presumptions; I have given my answers to your puzzle by utilizing the available information in your 1st mail to the list. As the author of the puzzle you have the ‘key’, upto you to accept / reject my answer. --- Krithigaivasan Radhakrishnan <krithi.hayagriva wrote: > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu || > > Dear Dhananjayan, > > Namaste ! > > I agree that the Astrological solutions could be > attempted either > with birth chart (a cumbersome procedure) or by an > instant prasna > chart when the querist put his query direct to an > Astrologer to get > his problem solved.That is i totally agree that > without the use of > natal chart and just by using prasna chart we can > predict any event. > I also agree that different astrologers reads the > puzzle in different > time. > > Now the question is,what time is to be taken for > plotting the > prasana chart ? You have taken the time of the event > that happened. > I have different opinion on this.If we follow your > first > statement,astrologers should plot the prasna chart > when he hears the > puzzle,since we are positing the puzzle in e-mail we > shall take the > time of query as time of reading the mail.I know > some other > astrologers plot the prasna char when they attempts > to solve the > problem. > > But you have taken the time of prasna as the time > of the > event.Prasna deals with queries..No query was there > during the time > of the event.In fact that even had made the person > to ask query.Then > how do you relate the time of the event with time of > the prasna ? So > i don't agree with plotting the prasna chart by > taking the time of > event. > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Best Regards, > > krithi > vedic astrology, Dhananjayan > Brahma > <abhanaya> wrote: > > Mr.Karthigaivasan, > > My reason is simple, the Astrological solutions > could > > be attempted either with birth chart (a cumbersome > > procedure) or by an instant prasna chart when the > > querist put his query direct to an Astrologer to > get > > his problem solved, and the Astrologer has the > option > > to decide the chart on the basis of samaya > sangalpha > > (viz.time of query, direction of the querist, > count > > the sumbhogam etc.,) The relationship exist as > that of > > the Sishya and Guru / Aacharya. > > In the Puzzle the querist is testing / judging the > > Astrologer's capability. Here position is > completely > > reversed the above situation. Further the puzzle > is > > examined by many Astrologers belonging to > different > > Time zones with different different etc., In order > to > > narrow down the possibility for one / nearest to > > answer I have chosen a common time and a Lagna > that > > persisted for a longer duration. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > --- Krithigaivasan R <krithi.hayagriva@g...> > > wrote: > > > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu || > > > > > > Dear Dhananjayan, > > > > > > Namaste ! > > > > > > May i know the reason why you made the prasna > chart > > > for Monday the 4th > > > July 05 @ 21.30 hrs. for B'lore ? > > > > > > Prasna chart should either be plotted when the > > > person raises the > > > question or when the astrologer attempts to find > the > > > solution.In b/w i > > > take the chart given by you as the chart of > Transit > > > for monday the 4th > > > July 05 @ 21.30 hrs. for B'lore.It just shows > the > > > planetory positions > > > on the said date and time.How does this chart > help > > > us to predict the > > > event happened in MY LIFE ? > > > > > > Have you considered my natal chart for > predicting > > > this event ? > > > > > > As i said earlier,i'll post the event on coming > > > monday. > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > krithi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/5/05, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > The Prasna chart was made for Monday the 4th > July > > > 05 @ > > > > 21.30 hrs. for B'lore. > > > > Aquarius Lagna, Sani the Lagna (mana) & 12th > > > (sayana > > > > suka) Lord is associated with Venus the 4th & > 9th > > > > (suka and bhagya) Lord and with Mercury the > 5th & > > > 8th > > > > (buthi & miscellaneous bad events in life) > Lord > > > are > > > > placed in the 6th house (rouna, rouga, kaama) > > > > The parivardhana between the Lords of 4th and > 6th > > > > house also indicates suka – rouga > parivardhana. > > > The > > > > 7th Lord (partner and hot jade) Sun is placed > in > > > its > > > > Laabha house. The 2nd house is debilitated by > the > > > > presence of krora in it and its (Dhana) Lord > is > > > > debilitated by its placement in the dusthana > 8th > > > > house. > > > > When the above indications are studied the > native > > > had > > > > under gone immoral experiences for bed > pleasure > > > and at > > > > the hands of a sad jade sustained monetary and > > > health > > > > losses. > > > > Learn to save from pitfall in predictions. > > > > > > > > --- Krithigaivasan R <krithi.hayagriva@g...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothishas, > > > > > > > > > > Pranams ! > > > > > > > > > > An unexpected event happened in my life on > 4th > > > > > July 2005.As a clue > > > > > i'll give the time range..its in b/w 9 PM > IST to > > > 10 > > > > > PM IST.During that > > > > > time i was in Bangalore,India. > > > > > > > > > > I invite all the learned learned/learning > > > > > astrologers to identify > === message truncated === Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. 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Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 I am in full agreement with you on the usage of Prashna chart. regards utpalDhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya > wrote: Mr.Kirthi,We practice Vedic – Astrology, Mahagarishis and greatVedic Astrologers like Dr.B.V.Raman have advocatedthat presana Sasthra to be used sparingly for solvinggenuine ticklish problems (not to be used for playfulobjectives). I respect their words, and consider thatpuzzles do not fall under the previews of the prasanasasthra. My stand in this regard had already beenadvised to you in my earlier mail which reads as quote:“In the Puzzle the querist is testing / judging theAstrologer's capability. Here position is completelyreversed”Unquote:It was also with the above presumptions; I have givenmy answers to your puzzle by utilizing the availableinformation in your 1st mail to the list.As the author of the puzzle you have the ‘key’, uptoyou to accept / reject my answer.--- Krithigaivasan Radhakrishnan<krithi.hayagriva > wrote:> || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||> > Dear Dhananjayan,> > Namaste !> > I agree that the Astrological solutions could be> attempted either > with birth chart (a cumbersome procedure) or by an> instant prasna > chart when the querist put his query direct to an> Astrologer to get> his problem solved.That is i totally agree that> without the use of > natal chart and just by using prasna chart we can> predict any event.> I also agree that different astrologers reads the> puzzle in different > time.> > Now the question is,what time is to be taken for> plotting the > prasana chart ? You have taken the time of the event> that happened.> I have different opinion on this.If we follow your> first > statement,astrologers should plot the prasna chart> when he hears the > puzzle,since we are positing the puzzle in e-mail we> shall take the > time of query as time of reading the mail.I know> some other > astrologers plot the prasna char when they attempts> to solve the > problem.> > But you have taken the time of prasna as the time> of the > event.Prasna deals with queries..No query was there> during the time > of the event.In fact that even had made the person> to ask query.Then > how do you relate the time of the event with time of> the prasna ? So > i don't agree with plotting the prasna chart by> taking the time of > event. > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Best Regards,> > krithi> vedic astrology, Dhananjayan> Brahma > <abhanaya> wrote:> > Mr.Karthigaivasan,> > My reason is simple, the Astrological solutions> could> > be attempted either with birth chart (a cumbersome> > procedure) or by an instant prasna chart when the> > querist put his query direct to an Astrologer to> get> > his problem solved, and the Astrologer has the> option> > to decide the chart on the basis of samaya> sangalpha> > (viz.time of query, direction of the querist,> count> > the sumbhogam etc.,) The relationship exist as> that of> > the Sishya and Guru / Aacharya.> > In the Puzzle the querist is testing / judging the> > Astrologer's capability. Here position is> completely> > reversed the above situation. Further the puzzle> is> > examined by many Astrologers belonging to> different> > Time zones with different different etc., In order> to> > narrow down the possibility for one / nearest to> > answer I have chosen a common time and a Lagna> that> > persisted for a longer duration.> > Best wishes.> > > > > > --- Krithigaivasan R <krithi.hayagriva@g...>> > wrote:> > > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||> > > > > > Dear Dhananjayan,> > > > > > Namaste !> > > > > > May i know the reason why you made the prasna> chart> > > for Monday the 4th> > > July 05 @ 21.30 hrs. for B'lore ?> > > > > > Prasna chart should either be plotted when the> > > person raises the> > > question or when the astrologer attempts to find> the> > > solution.In b/w i> > > take the chart given by you as the chart of> Transit> > > for monday the 4th> > > July 05 @ 21.30 hrs. for B'lore.It just shows> the> > > planetory positions> > > on the said date and time.How does this chart> help> > > us to predict the> > > event happened in MY LIFE ?> > > > > > Have you considered my natal chart for> predicting> > > this event ?> > > > > > As i said earlier,i'll post the event on coming> > > monday.> > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > Best Regards,> > > > > > krithi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/5/05, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya>> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > The Prasna chart was made for Monday the 4th> July> > > 05 @> > > > 21.30 hrs. for B'lore.> > > > Aquarius Lagna, Sani the Lagna (mana) & 12th> > > (sayana> > > > suka) Lord is associated with Venus the 4th &> 9th> > > > (suka and bhagya) Lord and with Mercury the> 5th &> > > 8th> > > > (buthi & miscellaneous bad events in life)> Lord> > > are> > > > placed in the 6th house (rouna, rouga, kaama)> > > > The parivardhana between the Lords of 4th and> 6th> > > > house also indicates suka – rouga> parivardhana.> > > The> > > > 7th Lord (partner and hot jade) Sun is placed> in> > > its> > > > Laabha house. The 2nd house is debilitated by> the> > > > presence of krora in it and its (Dhana) Lord> is> > > > debilitated by its placement in the dusthana> 8th> > > > house.> > > > When the above indications are studied the> native> > > had> > > > under gone immoral experiences for bed> pleasure> > > and at> > > > the hands of a sad jade sustained monetary and> > > health> > > > losses.> > > > Learn to save from pitfall in predictions.> > > > > > > > --- Krithigaivasan R <krithi.hayagriva@g...>> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu ||> > > > >> > > > > Dear Jyothishas,> > > > >> > > > > Pranams !> > > > >> > > > > An unexpected event happened in my life on> 4th> > > > > July 2005.As a clue> > > > > i'll give the time range..its in b/w 9 PM> IST to> > > 10> > > > > PM IST.During that> > > > > time i was in Bangalore,India.> > > > >> > > > > I invite all the learned learned/learning> > > > > astrologers to identify> === message truncated ===Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. 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Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Om Krishna Guru Namaste Dhananjayan Ji, I completely agree with you in using Prashna Chart to find answers to the genuine questions pertaning to the future rather than the past events known to the native. That is why for the latest Krithi's puzzle, I have decided not to use Prahsna chart as it is not meant to be used for such questions, if I understand the usage of Prashna Shashtra correctly now after these recent experience. Hence the summary is: use the Prashna methods to give answers to genuine and needy questions only. Regards Raghunatha Rao vedic astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya> wrote: > > Mr.Kirthi, > We practice Vedic ? Astrology, Mahagarishis and great > Vedic Astrologers like Dr.B.V.Raman have advocated > that presana Sasthra to be used sparingly for solving > genuine ticklish problems (not to be used for playful > objectives). I respect their words, and consider that > puzzles do not fall under the previews of the prasana > sasthra. My stand in this regard had already been > advised to you in my earlier mail which reads as > quote: > ?In the Puzzle the querist is testing / judging the > Astrologer's capability. Here position is completely > reversed? > Unquote: > It was also with the above presumptions; I have given > my answers to your puzzle by utilizing the available > information in your 1st mail to the list. > As the author of the puzzle you have the ?key?, upto > you to take / leave my answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Om Krishna Guru Namaste Dhananjayan Ji and All, I would like to add one more point, when I said, use Prashna Charts for genuine questions. For example birth time rectification is a past event and native may or may not have a knowledge of this event,so in those situations we should use Prashna Chart too. Hope I have made the point clear. Regards Raghunatha Rao vedic astrology, "Raghunatha RaoNemani" <raon1008> wrote: > Om Krishna Guru > > Namaste Dhananjayan Ji, > > I completely agree with you in using Prashna Chart to find > answers to the genuine questions pertaning to the future > rather than the past events known to the native. > That is why for the latest Krithi's puzzle, I have decided > not to use Prahsna chart as it is not meant to be used > for such questions, if I understand the usage of Prashna > Shashtra correctly now after these recent experience. > > Hence the summary is: use the Prashna methods to give answers > to genuine and needy questions only. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > vedic astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma > <abhanaya> wrote: > > > > Mr.Kirthi, > > We practice Vedic ? Astrology, Mahagarishis and great > > Vedic Astrologers like Dr.B.V.Raman have advocated > > that presana Sasthra to be used sparingly for solving > > genuine ticklish problems (not to be used for playful > > objectives). I respect their words, and consider that > > puzzles do not fall under the previews of the prasana > > sasthra. My stand in this regard had already been > > advised to you in my earlier mail which reads as > > quote: > > ?In the Puzzle the querist is testing / judging the > > Astrologer's capability. Here position is completely > > reversed? > > Unquote: > > It was also with the above presumptions; I have given > > my answers to your puzzle by utilizing the available > > information in your 1st mail to the list. > > As the author of the puzzle you have the ?key?, upto > > you to take / leave my answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu || Dear Dhananjayan, Namaste ! My objective behind posting the puzzle is not to test the skills of any astrologers.I am not a master in this science to do that.My intention is to learn different ways of analysing the chart and to share my little knowledge.That's the reason i questioned you about the reason behind your way of plotting the prasna chart by taking the time of the event.Now i feel the discussion is going in another way. Let's analyse the event more once i post the result. || Hare Rama Krishna || Best Regards, krithi vedic astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya> wrote: > > Mr.Kirthi, > We practice Vedic – Astrology, Mahagarishis and great > Vedic Astrologers like Dr.B.V.Raman have advocated > that presana Sasthra to be used sparingly for solving > genuine ticklish problems (not to be used for playful > objectives). I respect their words, and consider that > puzzles do not fall under the previews of the prasana > sasthra. My stand in this regard had already been > advised to you in my earlier mail which reads as > quote: > "In the Puzzle the querist is testing / judging the > Astrologer's capability. Here position is completely > reversed" > Unquote: > It was also with the above presumptions; I have given > my answers to your puzzle by utilizing the available > information in your 1st mail to the list. > As the author of the puzzle you have the `key', upto > you to accept / reject my answer. > > --- Krithigaivasan Radhakrishnan > <krithi.hayagriva@g...> wrote: > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu || > > > > Dear Dhananjayan, > > > > Namaste ! > > > > I agree that the Astrological solutions could be > > attempted either > > with birth chart (a cumbersome procedure) or by an > > instant prasna > > chart when the querist put his query direct to an > > Astrologer to get > > his problem solved.That is i totally agree that > > without the use of > > natal chart and just by using prasna chart we can > > predict any event. > > I also agree that different astrologers reads the > > puzzle in different > > time. > > > > Now the question is,what time is to be taken for > > plotting the > > prasana chart ? You have taken the time of the event > > that happened. > > I have different opinion on this.If we follow your > > first > > statement,astrologers should plot the prasna chart > > when he hears the > > puzzle,since we are positing the puzzle in e-mail we > > shall take the > > time of query as time of reading the mail.I know > > some other > > astrologers plot the prasna char when they attempts > > to solve the > > problem. > > > > But you have taken the time of prasna as the time > > of the > > event.Prasna deals with queries..No query was there > > during the time > > of the event.In fact that even had made the person > > to ask query.Then > > how do you relate the time of the event with time of > > the prasna ? So > > i don't agree with plotting the prasna chart by > > taking the time of > > event. > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Best Regards, > > > > krithi > > vedic astrology, Dhananjayan > > Brahma > > <abhanaya> wrote: > > > Mr.Karthigaivasan, > > > My reason is simple, the Astrological solutions > > could > > > be attempted either with birth chart (a cumbersome > > > procedure) or by an instant prasna chart when the > > > querist put his query direct to an Astrologer to > > get > > > his problem solved, and the Astrologer has the > > option > > > to decide the chart on the basis of samaya > > sangalpha > > > (viz.time of query, direction of the querist, > > count > > > the sumbhogam etc.,) The relationship exist as > > that of > > > the Sishya and Guru / Aacharya. > > > In the Puzzle the querist is testing / judging the > > > Astrologer's capability. Here position is > > completely > > > reversed the above situation. Further the puzzle > > is > > > examined by many Astrologers belonging to > > different > > > Time zones with different different etc., In order > > to > > > narrow down the possibility for one / nearest to > > > answer I have chosen a common time and a Lagna > > that > > > persisted for a longer duration. > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > --- Krithigaivasan R <krithi.hayagriva@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu || > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjayan, > > > > > > > > Namaste ! > > > > > > > > May i know the reason why you made the prasna > > chart > > > > for Monday the 4th > > > > July 05 @ 21.30 hrs. for B'lore ? > > > > > > > > Prasna chart should either be plotted when the > > > > person raises the > > > > question or when the astrologer attempts to find > > the > > > > solution.In b/w i > > > > take the chart given by you as the chart of > > Transit > > > > for monday the 4th > > > > July 05 @ 21.30 hrs. for B'lore.It just shows > > the > > > > planetory positions > > > > on the said date and time.How does this chart > > help > > > > us to predict the > > > > event happened in MY LIFE ? > > > > > > > > Have you considered my natal chart for > > predicting > > > > this event ? > > > > > > > > As i said earlier,i'll post the event on coming > > > > monday. > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > krithi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/5/05, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The Prasna chart was made for Monday the 4th > > July > > > > 05 @ > > > > > 21.30 hrs. for B'lore. > > > > > Aquarius Lagna, Sani the Lagna (mana) & 12th > > > > (sayana > > > > > suka) Lord is associated with Venus the 4th & > > 9th > > > > > (suka and bhagya) Lord and with Mercury the > > 5th & > > > > 8th > > > > > (buthi & miscellaneous bad events in life) > > Lord > > > > are > > > > > placed in the 6th house (rouna, rouga, kaama) > > > > > The parivardhana between the Lords of 4th and > > 6th > > > > > house also indicates suka – rouga > > parivardhana. > > > > The > > > > > 7th Lord (partner and hot jade) Sun is placed > > in > > > > its > > > > > Laabha house. The 2nd house is debilitated by > > the > > > > > presence of krora in it and its (Dhana) Lord > > is > > > > > debilitated by its placement in the dusthana > > 8th > > > > > house. > > > > > When the above indications are studied the > > native > > > > had > > > > > under gone immoral experiences for bed > > pleasure > > > > and at > > > > > the hands of a sad jade sustained monetary and > > > > health > > > > > losses. > > > > > Learn to save from pitfall in predictions. > > > > > > > > > > --- Krithigaivasan R <krithi.hayagriva@g...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > || Haya Mukha Siddhi Rastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothishas, > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranams ! > > > > > > > > > > > > An unexpected event happened in my life on > > 4th > > > > > > July 2005.As a clue > > > > > > i'll give the time range..its in b/w 9 PM > > IST to > > > > 10 > > > > > > PM IST.During that > > > > > > time i was in Bangalore,India. > > > > > > > > > > > > I invite all the learned learned/learning > > > > > > astrologers to identify > > > === message truncated === > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. 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