IN DEFENCE OF SJC, Sanjay, PVR, Visti etc........

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Hi Groupies,

At the outset, it may be mentioned that this scribe has not assigned himself

the task of justifying or denouncing anybody; but is concerned with the cause

of Jyotish and wish to submit before the learned members certain facts.

It is quite unfortunate to take cognizance, that certain unscrupulous elements

in their pseudo -name has started vilification campaign against SJC and the

respected Gurus.The bottom line of all these baseless allegation is ENVY and

nothing else.These denigrators of SJC & Guru's has nothing constructive to

offer but only wild allegations. When PVR decided to give free download of

JHora,a ground- breaking contribution to the cause of Jyotish, so as to reach

out to the financially weak section of students interested in learning but

unable to afford the enormous cost of

buying astro-software, it has antagonized certain quarters, who till then were

minting money at the cost of Jyotish.Obviously, some of the mud-slinging

against the Gurus & SJC are immediate consequence of the decision of SJC to

give free download J Hora and also the recent publication of a book by Visti

Larsen

..Let me remind the esteemed members, that these youngsters who are also the

Gurus of the SJC are doing yeoman service to the cause of Jyotish through their

activities and are in fact, the flag bearers of the Astrological renaissance

movement.It is not gainsaying, that only after their arrival a direction

oriented learning of Jyotish had commenced and the flood gate of the Vedic

wisdom was opened to all.. We are in this list to enrich our Knowledge in

Jyotish and not to delve into the personal life of any Guru's. By writing this

mail, I am just articulating the thinking process of majority of

members.

Let me end by reaffirming our solidarity and commitment to SJC, SanjayRath PVR

,Visti and all concerned.

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Yes,I accept the statement in full.Ofcourse,it is a fact that nobody can

deny.May be I take it as a sign of success of SJC in this short span.Those who

bark at sun(SJC) like a street dog cannot achieve anything good in life.

 

Sanjayji,PVRji,Vistiji,Raghunathji and Rafalji have given something valuable in

bringing up this great" jyotish" through knowledgible and productive way.God

has sent them here and it is a great help for any learners,beginners and astro

lovers.

 

With my humble pranams,salute to all these great souls in the world of

astrology, I end this mail hoping to learn many great things from them.

 

With thanks and regards

BALAJI G

 

 

kid kid <astrokkid > wrote:

Hi Groupies,

At the outset, it may be mentioned that this scribe has not assigned himself

the task of justifying or denouncing anybody; but is concerned with the cause

of Jyotish and wish to submit before the learned members certain facts.

It is quite unfortunate to take cognizance, that certain unscrupulous elements

in their pseudo -name has started vilification campaign against SJC and the

respected Gurus.The bottom line of all these baseless allegation is ENVY and

nothing else.These denigrators of SJC & Guru's has nothing constructive to

offer but only wild allegations. When PVR decided to give free download of

JHora,a ground- breaking contribution to the cause of Jyotish, so as to reach

out to the financially weak section of students interested in learning but

unable to afford the enormous cost of

buying astro-software, it has antagonized certain quarters, who till then were

minting money at the cost of Jyotish.Obviously, some of the mud-slinging

against the Gurus & SJC are immediate consequence of the decision of SJC to

give free download J Hora and also the recent publication of a book by Visti

Larsen

..Let me remind the esteemed members, that these youngsters who are also the

Gurus of the SJC are doing yeoman service to the cause of Jyotish through their

activities and are in fact, the flag bearers of the Astrological renaissance

movement.It is not gainsaying, that only after their arrival a direction

oriented learning of Jyotish had commenced and the flood gate of the Vedic

wisdom was opened to all.. We are in this list to enrich our Knowledge in

Jyotish and not to delve into the personal life of any Guru's. By writing this

mail, I am just articulating the thinking process of majority of

members.

Let me end by reaffirming our solidarity and commitment to SJC, SanjayRath PVR

,Visti and all concerned.

KID

 

 

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Balaji wrote:

Sanjayji,PVRji,Vistiji,Raghunathji and Rafalji have given something

valuable in bringing up this great" jyotish" through knowledgible

and productive way.God has sent them here and it is a great help for

any learners,beginners and astro lovers."

 

Please don't kid yourself by saying- "god has sent them here"

Pathetic sycophants...at least be reasonable in comparing people.

Look at their charts they are not people born with a mission. They

are people with great interest in jyotish and are hard working.

 

Sanjay, PVR - they have contributed a lot. Don't know about Visti

and Rafal. Raghunath (It it Rao Nemani) - please again don't kid

youself. As recently as March he was fixing puzzles with off line

chats. Now suddenly he is great Jyotish? When you write - at least

think for a minute. Nemani is not even an SJC Guru FYI. Somebody who

cheats can never be a great jyotishi ! SJC should seriuosly consider

reprimands, have a zero tolerance policy for all this. I don't know

if the leadership has this poilcy in effect or not. Otherwise the

SJC name will be diluted by frauds and cheats.

 

Independent Counsel for SJC

VA List Police

 

vedic astrology, "Balaji G.krishnan"

<balaji_g_krishnan> wrote:

> Dear all,

>

> Yes,I accept the statement in full.Ofcourse,it is a fact that

nobody can deny.May be I take it as a sign of success of SJC in this

short span.Those who bark at sun(SJC) like a street dog cannot

achieve anything good in life.

>

> Sanjayji,PVRji,Vistiji,Raghunathji and Rafalji have given

something valuable in bringing up this great" jyotish" through

knowledgible and productive way.God has sent them here and it is a

great help for any learners,beginners and astro lovers.

>

> With my humble pranams,salute to all these great souls in the

world of astrology, I end this mail hoping to learn many great

things from them.

>

> With thanks and regards

> BALAJI G

>

>

>

>

> kid kid <astrokkid> wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi Groupies,

>

> At the outset, it may be mentioned that this scribe has not

assigned himself the task of justifying or denouncing anybody; but

is concerned with the cause of Jyotish and wish to submit before the

learned members certain facts.

>

> It is quite unfortunate to take cognizance, that certain

unscrupulous elements in their pseudo -name has started

vilification campaign against SJC and the respected Gurus.The bottom

line of all these baseless allegation is ENVY and nothing else.These

denigrators of SJC & Guru's has nothing constructive to offer but

only wild allegations. When PVR decided to give free download of

JHora,a ground- breaking contribution to the cause of Jyotish, so

as to reach out to the financially weak section of students

interested in learning but unable to afford the enormous cost of

buying astro-software, it has antagonized certain quarters, who till

then were minting money at the cost of Jyotish.Obviously, some of

the mud-slinging against the Gurus & SJC are immediate consequence

of the decision of SJC to give free download J Hora and also the

recent publication of a book by Visti Larsen

>

> .Let me remind the esteemed members, that these youngsters who are

also the Gurus of the SJC are doing yeoman service to the cause of

Jyotish through their activities and are in fact, the flag bearers

of the Astrological renaissance movement.It is not gainsaying, that

only after their arrival a direction oriented learning of Jyotish

had commenced and the flood gate of the Vedic wisdom was opened to

all.. We are in this list to enrich our Knowledge in Jyotish and not

to delve into the personal life of any Guru's. By writing this mail,

I am just articulating the thinking process of majority of members.

>

> Let me end by reaffirming our solidarity and commitment to SJC,

SanjayRath PVR ,Visti and all concerned.

>

> KID

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Raghunatha ji,

 

I came to know that you knew the answer even before posting the "Mr.

Palanivelu's" puzzle. What you think solving puzzle is giving

analysis after finding out the event by communicating to the person.

What I and most think is to solve the puzzle by just looknig at chart.

 

Solving puzzle is extremely difficult. Giving analysis to a known

event is very easy task, all adult astrologers know it here on this

list.

 

And most of the time you accept that you have communicated with the

puzzle poster, only when the reality is exposed. Why dont you ask

questions on the list directly and why do you do it privately and

hide it until exposed?

 

I was just keeping quite to avoid this sort of communication on this

list of learning. I have all the mails that you communicated before

you solved the puzzle. I will post them on the list if needed. I just

kept quite due to Mr. Palanivelu's request. But if this issue is not

postmortemed, these kind of things will keep happening. So List

members forgive me for this unpleasant surgery.

 

I am also a student of SJC and I respect all of sjc associates and

also others outside sjc.

 

Pradeep

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Raghunatha RaoNemani"

<raon1008> wrote:

> Om Krishna Guru

>

> I have ignored your messages few times, but looks like, you need an

> answer.You have one very valid point in you message. I am not to be

> compared to those great Astrologers such as Sanjay Ji, Narasimha

Ji,

> Visti Ji and others. I even mentioned many times in this list, that

I

> am a beginner and try to learn and help people with my knowledge. I

> also wrote to Balaji about the same privately few minutes, before

> your message appeared in this list now.

>

> When a person is not a advanced student, what you talk about a

Guru,

> so get that in your mind now. I wanted to make it clear to you

narrow

> minded person,I have no need to cheat any body in the puzzles or

> whatever, as learning means success and failures and we all know

that

> very well and some humans will never learn that like you. Because

> there is no award or reward money for this, I spend my valuable

time

> in learnig and these are the means of measuring the understanding

> only. I have mentioned about the puzzle, which you consider a

> cheating, I do not consider as cheating. But I did mentioned

earlier

> that I should have mentioned about the 2 different outcomes of the

> analysis earlier, which I did not mention about this saying that

was

> discussed in my analysis. That was a mistake and I have mentiond

> sorry to the list long time ago. So there is no need to waste every

> one's time any more on that.

>

> I always take the past events from the natives to verify the birth

> time accuracy, in this process, I communicate to natives before

> venturing to the anlaysis. If you are serious about Jyotish

studies,

> then get started before people in this list curse you for your bad

> tongue and attitude. A free last advise to you: Try to learn and do

> not get jealous with other students, if that is your purpose to be

in

> this list.

>

> Regards

> Raghunatha Rao

>

> vedic astrology, "valistpolice"

> <valistpolice> wrote:

> > Balaji wrote:

> > Sanjayji,PVRji,Vistiji,Raghunathji and Rafalji have given

something

> > valuable in bringing up this great" jyotish" through knowledgible

> > and productive way.God has sent them here and it is a great help

> for

> > any learners,beginners and astro lovers."

> >

> > Please don't kid yourself by saying- "god has sent them here"

> > Pathetic sycophants...at least be reasonable in comparing people.

> > Look at their charts they are not people born with a mission.

They

> > are people with great interest in jyotish and are hard working.

> >

> > Sanjay, PVR - they have contributed a lot. Don't know about Visti

> > and Rafal. Raghunath (It it Rao Nemani) - please again don't kid

> > youself. As recently as March he was fixing puzzles with off line

> > chats. Now suddenly he is great Jyotish? When you write - at

least

> > think for a minute. Nemani is not even an SJC Guru FYI. Somebody

> who

> > cheats can never be a great jyotishi ! SJC should seriuosly

> consider

> > reprimands, have a zero tolerance policy for all this. I don't

know

> > if the leadership has this poilcy in effect or not. Otherwise the

> > SJC name will be diluted by frauds and cheats.

> >

> > Independent Counsel for SJC

> > VA List Police

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Balaji G.krishnan"

> > <balaji_g_krishnan> wrote:

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > Yes,I accept the statement in full.Ofcourse,it is a fact that

> > nobody can deny.May be I take it as a sign of success of SJC in

> this

> > short span.Those who bark at sun(SJC) like a street dog cannot

> > achieve anything good in life.

> > >

> > > Sanjayji,PVRji,Vistiji,Raghunathji and Rafalji have given

> > something valuable in bringing up this great" jyotish" through

> > knowledgible and productive way.God has sent them here and it is

a

> > great help for any learners,beginners and astro lovers.

> > >

> > > With my humble pranams,salute to all these great souls in the

> > world of astrology, I end this mail hoping to learn many great

> > things from them.

> > >

> > > With thanks and regards

> > > BALAJI G

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > kid kid <astrokkid> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Groupies,

> > >

> > > At the outset, it may be mentioned that this scribe has not

> > assigned himself the task of justifying or denouncing anybody;

but

> > is concerned with the cause of Jyotish and wish to submit before

> the

> > learned members certain facts.

> > >

> > > It is quite unfortunate to take cognizance, that certain

> > unscrupulous elements in their pseudo -name has started

> > vilification campaign against SJC and the respected Gurus.The

> bottom

> > line of all these baseless allegation is ENVY and nothing

> else.These

> > denigrators of SJC & Guru's has nothing constructive to offer

but

> > only wild allegations. When PVR decided to give free download of

> > JHora,a ground- breaking contribution to the cause of Jyotish,

so

> > as to reach out to the financially weak section of students

> > interested in learning but unable to afford the enormous cost of

> > buying astro-software, it has antagonized certain quarters, who

> till

> > then were minting money at the cost of Jyotish.Obviously, some of

> > the mud-slinging against the Gurus & SJC are immediate

consequence

> > of the decision of SJC to give free download J Hora and also the

> > recent publication of a book by Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > .Let me remind the esteemed members, that these youngsters who

> are

> > also the Gurus of the SJC are doing yeoman service to the cause

of

> > Jyotish through their activities and are in fact, the flag

bearers

> > of the Astrological renaissance movement.It is not gainsaying,

that

> > only after their arrival a direction oriented learning of Jyotish

> > had commenced and the flood gate of the Vedic wisdom was opened

to

> > all.. We are in this list to enrich our Knowledge in Jyotish and

> not

> > to delve into the personal life of any Guru's. By writing this

> mail,

> > I am just articulating the thinking process of majority of

> members.

> > >

> > > Let me end by reaffirming our solidarity and commitment to SJC,

> > SanjayRath PVR ,Visti and all concerned.

> > >

> > > KID

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Mr. Pradeep

I am stunned by your revelation. I suspected this all along. But was

never sure. You have openely come out and told about Mr. Nemani's

back door dealings. Kudos to you for not being afraid of truth. This

will only spoil the good name that SJC has accumulated. I feel

vindicated but saddened that in the name of some hora nadi such

frauds are committed. SJC cleary should develop some ethics policy

that its memebers should adhere to. I am really saddened to now the

truth. I wish I was wrong, but Oh Lord Krishna, I am not

Joe

 

vedic astrology, "Pradeep Gurav"

<pp_gurav> wrote:

> Raghunatha ji,

>

> I came to know that you knew the answer even before posting

the "Mr.

> Palanivelu's" puzzle. What you think solving puzzle is giving

> analysis after finding out the event by communicating to the

person.

> What I and most think is to solve the puzzle by just looknig at

chart.

>

> Solving puzzle is extremely difficult. Giving analysis to a known

> event is very easy task, all adult astrologers know it here on

this

> list.

>

> And most of the time you accept that you have communicated with

the

> puzzle poster, only when the reality is exposed. Why dont you ask

> questions on the list directly and why do you do it privately and

> hide it until exposed?

>

> I was just keeping quite to avoid this sort of communication on

this

> list of learning. I have all the mails that you communicated

before

> you solved the puzzle. I will post them on the list if needed. I

just

> kept quite due to Mr. Palanivelu's request. But if this issue is

not

> postmortemed, these kind of things will keep happening. So List

> members forgive me for this unpleasant surgery.

>

> I am also a student of SJC and I respect all of sjc associates and

> also others outside sjc.

>

> Pradeep

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Raghunatha RaoNemani"

> <raon1008> wrote:

> > Om Krishna Guru

> >

> > I have ignored your messages few times, but looks like, you need

an

> > answer.You have one very valid point in you message. I am not to

be

> > compared to those great Astrologers such as Sanjay Ji, Narasimha

> Ji,

> > Visti Ji and others. I even mentioned many times in this list,

that

> I

> > am a beginner and try to learn and help people with my

knowledge. I

> > also wrote to Balaji about the same privately few minutes,

before

> > your message appeared in this list now.

> >

> > When a person is not a advanced student, what you talk about a

> Guru,

> > so get that in your mind now. I wanted to make it clear to you

> narrow

> > minded person,I have no need to cheat any body in the puzzles or

> > whatever, as learning means success and failures and we all know

> that

> > very well and some humans will never learn that like you.

Because

> > there is no award or reward money for this, I spend my valuable

> time

> > in learnig and these are the means of measuring the

understanding

> > only. I have mentioned about the puzzle, which you consider a

> > cheating, I do not consider as cheating. But I did mentioned

> earlier

> > that I should have mentioned about the 2 different outcomes of

the

> > analysis earlier, which I did not mention about this saying that

> was

> > discussed in my analysis. That was a mistake and I have mentiond

> > sorry to the list long time ago. So there is no need to waste

every

> > one's time any more on that.

> >

> > I always take the past events from the natives to verify the

birth

> > time accuracy, in this process, I communicate to natives before

> > venturing to the anlaysis. If you are serious about Jyotish

> studies,

> > then get started before people in this list curse you for your

bad

> > tongue and attitude. A free last advise to you: Try to learn and

do

> > not get jealous with other students, if that is your purpose to

be

> in

> > this list.

> >

> > Regards

> > Raghunatha Rao

> >

> > vedic astrology, "valistpolice"

> > <valistpolice> wrote:

> > > Balaji wrote:

> > > Sanjayji,PVRji,Vistiji,Raghunathji and Rafalji have given

> something

> > > valuable in bringing up this great" jyotish" through

knowledgible

> > > and productive way.God has sent them here and it is a great

help

> > for

> > > any learners,beginners and astro lovers."

> > >

> > > Please don't kid yourself by saying- "god has sent them here"

> > > Pathetic sycophants...at least be reasonable in comparing

people.

> > > Look at their charts they are not people born with a mission.

> They

> > > are people with great interest in jyotish and are hard working.

> > >

> > > Sanjay, PVR - they have contributed a lot. Don't know about

Visti

> > > and Rafal. Raghunath (It it Rao Nemani) - please again don't

kid

> > > youself. As recently as March he was fixing puzzles with off

line

> > > chats. Now suddenly he is great Jyotish? When you write - at

> least

> > > think for a minute. Nemani is not even an SJC Guru FYI.

Somebody

> > who

> > > cheats can never be a great jyotishi ! SJC should seriuosly

> > consider

> > > reprimands, have a zero tolerance policy for all this. I don't

> know

> > > if the leadership has this poilcy in effect or not. Otherwise

the

> > > SJC name will be diluted by frauds and cheats.

> > >

> > > Independent Counsel for SJC

> > > VA List Police

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Balaji G.krishnan"

> > > <balaji_g_krishnan> wrote:

> > > > Dear all,

> > > >

> > > > Yes,I accept the statement in full.Ofcourse,it is a fact

that

> > > nobody can deny.May be I take it as a sign of success of SJC

in

> > this

> > > short span.Those who bark at sun(SJC) like a street dog cannot

> > > achieve anything good in life.

> > > >

> > > > Sanjayji,PVRji,Vistiji,Raghunathji and Rafalji have given

> > > something valuable in bringing up this great" jyotish" through

> > > knowledgible and productive way.God has sent them here and it

is

> a

> > > great help for any learners,beginners and astro lovers.

> > > >

> > > > With my humble pranams,salute to all these great souls in

the

> > > world of astrology, I end this mail hoping to learn many great

> > > things from them.

> > > >

> > > > With thanks and regards

> > > > BALAJI G

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > kid kid <astrokkid> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi Groupies,

> > > >

> > > > At the outset, it may be mentioned that this scribe has not

> > > assigned himself the task of justifying or denouncing anybody;

> but

> > > is concerned with the cause of Jyotish and wish to submit

before

> > the

> > > learned members certain facts.

> > > >

> > > > It is quite unfortunate to take cognizance, that certain

> > > unscrupulous elements in their pseudo -name has started

> > > vilification campaign against SJC and the respected Gurus.The

> > bottom

> > > line of all these baseless allegation is ENVY and nothing

> > else.These

> > > denigrators of SJC & Guru's has nothing constructive to

offer

> but

> > > only wild allegations. When PVR decided to give free download

of

> > > JHora,a ground- breaking contribution to the cause of

Jyotish,

> so

> > > as to reach out to the financially weak section of students

> > > interested in learning but unable to afford the enormous cost

of

> > > buying astro-software, it has antagonized certain quarters,

who

> > till

> > > then were minting money at the cost of Jyotish.Obviously, some

of

> > > the mud-slinging against the Gurus & SJC are immediate

> consequence

> > > of the decision of SJC to give free download J Hora and also

the

> > > recent publication of a book by Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > .Let me remind the esteemed members, that these youngsters

who

> > are

> > > also the Gurus of the SJC are doing yeoman service to the

cause

> of

> > > Jyotish through their activities and are in fact, the flag

> bearers

> > > of the Astrological renaissance movement.It is not gainsaying,

> that

> > > only after their arrival a direction oriented learning of

Jyotish

> > > had commenced and the flood gate of the Vedic wisdom was

opened

> to

> > > all.. We are in this list to enrich our Knowledge in Jyotish

and

> > not

> > > to delve into the personal life of any Guru's. By writing this

> > mail,

> > > I am just articulating the thinking process of majority of

> > members.

> > > >

> > > > Let me end by reaffirming our solidarity and commitment to

SJC,

> > > SanjayRath PVR ,Visti and all concerned.

> > > >

> > > > KID

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