Guest guest Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Dear all Namaste What is the reason of 5 divions in Trishamsha as name indicates 30 amshas of rashi? Another point is that the divisions are uneven and different for Odd and Even rashi. Why so many complications in D-30? Please clarify. Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Dear shri Prabodh Trimshamsha is ofcourse 1 degree or 1/30th of a sign.But the lords remain the same for every 5 degrees in a sign. example if jupiter is at 4 degrees and moon at 3 degrees in the same sign they will have the same trimshamsha lord,depending on Oja yugma. Pradeep vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" <amolmandar> wrote: > Dear all Namaste > > What is the reason of 5 divions in Trishamsha as name indicates 30 > amshas of rashi? Another point is that the divisions are uneven and > different for Odd and Even rashi. Why so many complications in D- 30? > Please clarify. > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology. > > Prabodh Vekhande > Jai Jai Shankar > Har Har Shankar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Dearv Shree Pradeep Namaste I think the division is not even. Why is that for some degress lord remains same? We see that for all vargas amsha is uniform. I mean if it is D-1 one amsha,hora 2 amshas, D-3 three amshas,D-9 nine amshas, D-12 twelve amshas. In all theses vargas amshas are according to name of the varga and each amsha has separate lord and deity. The rule is voilated only with Trishamsha in Shadvarga. In Trishamsha first it considers Odd or Even and then accordingly it divides rashi. In odd rashi first two and last division is of 5 degrees and 3rd and 4th division of 8 and 7 respec. Thats makes total 30. In Even rashi 2nd and 3rd divisions are 7 and 8 degress and rest are of 5 making total of 30. So it is still not clear why such a special treatment to Trishamsha? Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear shri Prabodh > > Trimshamsha is ofcourse 1 degree or 1/30th of a sign.But the lords > remain the same for every 5 degrees in a sign. > example if jupiter is at 4 degrees and moon at 3 degrees in the same > sign they will have the same trimshamsha lord,depending on Oja yugma. > > Pradeep > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > <amolmandar> wrote: > > Dear all Namaste > > > > What is the reason of 5 divions in Trishamsha as name indicates 30 > > amshas of rashi? Another point is that the divisions are uneven and > > different for Odd and Even rashi. Why so many complications in D- > 30? > > Please clarify. > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology. > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > Jai Jai Shankar > > Har Har Shankar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Dear shri Prabodh As i have said before amshas are even.All trimshamshas are of 1 degree and you will have 30 trimshamshas in any sign.Thus divisions are similar to any other. Only difference is one planet is lording a certain span of degrees in a sign and this span is not uniform.Only sage will know the reason. Sun and Moon does not have ownership. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" <amolmandar> wrote: > Dearv Shree Pradeep Namaste > > I think the division is not even. Why is that for some degress lord > remains same? We see that for all vargas amsha is uniform. I mean if > it is D-1 one amsha,hora 2 amshas, D-3 three amshas,D-9 nine amshas, > D-12 twelve amshas. In all theses vargas amshas are according to name > of the varga and each amsha has separate lord and deity. The rule is > voilated only with Trishamsha in Shadvarga. In Trishamsha first it > considers Odd or Even and then accordingly it divides rashi. In odd > rashi first two and last division is of 5 degrees and 3rd and 4th > division of 8 and 7 respec. Thats makes total 30. In Even rashi 2nd > and 3rd divisions are 7 and 8 degress and rest are of 5 making total > of 30. > So it is still not clear why such a special treatment to Trishamsha? > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > Prabodh Vekhande > Jai Jai Shankar > Har Har Shankar > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > Dear shri Prabodh > > > > Trimshamsha is ofcourse 1 degree or 1/30th of a sign.But the lords > > remain the same for every 5 degrees in a sign. > > example if jupiter is at 4 degrees and moon at 3 degrees in the same > > sign they will have the same trimshamsha lord,depending on Oja yugma. > > > > Pradeep > > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > Dear all Namaste > > > > > > What is the reason of 5 divions in Trishamsha as name indicates 30 > > > amshas of rashi? Another point is that the divisions are uneven and > > > different for Odd and Even rashi. Why so many complications in D- > > 30? > > > Please clarify. > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology. > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > Har Har Shankar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Dear Shree Vijaydas Namaste You may be right. But question stil remains why for each division in D-30 there is no individual lord/rashi like other vargas. Hopefully one day I may meet sage! Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear shri Prabodh > > As i have said before amshas are even.All trimshamshas are of 1 degree > and you will have 30 trimshamshas in any sign.Thus divisions are > similar to any other. > > Only difference is one planet is lording a certain span of degrees in > a sign and this span is not uniform.Only sage will know the reason. > Sun and Moon does not have ownership. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > <amolmandar> wrote: > > Dearv Shree Pradeep Namaste > > > > I think the division is not even. Why is that for some degress lord > > remains same? We see that for all vargas amsha is uniform. I mean if > > it is D-1 one amsha,hora 2 amshas, D-3 three amshas,D-9 nine amshas, > > D-12 twelve amshas. In all theses vargas amshas are according to name > > of the varga and each amsha has separate lord and deity. The rule is > > voilated only with Trishamsha in Shadvarga. In Trishamsha first it > > considers Odd or Even and then accordingly it divides rashi. In odd > > rashi first two and last division is of 5 degrees and 3rd and 4th > > division of 8 and 7 respec. Thats makes total 30. In Even rashi 2nd > > and 3rd divisions are 7 and 8 degress and rest are of 5 making total > > of 30. > > So it is still not clear why such a special treatment to Trishamsha? > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > Jai Jai Shankar > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > Dear shri Prabodh > > > > > > Trimshamsha is ofcourse 1 degree or 1/30th of a sign.But the lords > > > remain the same for every 5 degrees in a sign. > > > example if jupiter is at 4 degrees and moon at 3 degrees in the same > > > sign they will have the same trimshamsha lord,depending on Oja yugma. > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > > > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > > Dear all Namaste > > > > > > > > What is the reason of 5 divions in Trishamsha as name indicates 30 > > > > amshas of rashi? Another point is that the divisions are uneven and > > > > different for Odd and Even rashi. Why so many complications in D- > > > 30? > > > > Please clarify. > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology. > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > Har Har Shankar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Dear shri Prabodh Each amsha has got individual lords.When we say he is lording for a span of 5 or 7 degrees,it means he lords each and every amsha falling within that span. For a sign of 30 degrees sage knew which planet has lordship for which all sectors.For knowing the reason,we should either meet sage or get help from other learned members of this group. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" <amolmandar> wrote: > Dear Shree Vijaydas Namaste > > You may be right. But question stil remains why for each division in > D-30 there is no individual lord/rashi like other vargas. Hopefully > one day I may meet sage! > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > Prabodh Vekhande > Jai Jai Shankar > Har Har Shankar > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > Dear shri Prabodh > > > > As i have said before amshas are even.All trimshamshas are of 1 degree > > and you will have 30 trimshamshas in any sign.Thus divisions are > > similar to any other. > > > > Only difference is one planet is lording a certain span of degrees in > > a sign and this span is not uniform.Only sage will know the reason. > > Sun and Moon does not have ownership. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > Dearv Shree Pradeep Namaste > > > > > > I think the division is not even. Why is that for some degress lord > > > remains same? We see that for all vargas amsha is uniform. I mean if > > > it is D-1 one amsha,hora 2 amshas, D-3 three amshas,D-9 nine amshas, > > > D-12 twelve amshas. In all theses vargas amshas are according to name > > > of the varga and each amsha has separate lord and deity. The rule is > > > voilated only with Trishamsha in Shadvarga. In Trishamsha first it > > > considers Odd or Even and then accordingly it divides rashi. In odd > > > rashi first two and last division is of 5 degrees and 3rd and 4th > > > division of 8 and 7 respec. Thats makes total 30. In Even rashi 2nd > > > and 3rd divisions are 7 and 8 degress and rest are of 5 making total > > > of 30. > > > So it is still not clear why such a special treatment to Trishamsha? > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > > Dear shri Prabodh > > > > > > > > Trimshamsha is ofcourse 1 degree or 1/30th of a sign.But the lords > > > > remain the same for every 5 degrees in a sign. > > > > example if jupiter is at 4 degrees and moon at 3 degrees in the > same > > > > sign they will have the same trimshamsha lord,depending on Oja > yugma. > > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > > > > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > > > Dear all Namaste > > > > > > > > > > What is the reason of 5 divions in Trishamsha as name indicates 30 > > > > > amshas of rashi? Another point is that the divisions are > uneven and > > > > > different for Odd and Even rashi. Why so many complications in D- > > > > 30? > > > > > Please clarify. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology. > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > Har Har Shankar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 The Rashi is divided into 30 trimsamsas, and then the allocation of five unequal sectors to different tatwas. The pancha tatwas are Mars, mercury, venus, Jupiter and Saturn. The five unequal sectors is based upon the "nature of tatwa". For a normal human being, the life current alternates between left nostril to right nostril every hour. This hour can be divided into five tatwas, and during the five different tatwas the "thinking" of the person changes. Every person has a subconscious unnatural fear built in due to some past experiences and past lives. Thus the "unnatural Purusha" or paapa purusha resides in each and every human being, playing out the unnatural forces. Thus the arishtas, illnesses, etc. Trimshamsa can be analysed at various levels a) To see the paapa purusha, the unnatural elements b) To see the afflicted tatwas c) To see the vital force and sustaining force, how they are afflicted(sun and the moon) d) To see the "cure" of the ailments e) To see how the person breathes, the prana or the vital force actually decides how long the person would stay, or how he is going to die. f) Once you understand how a person is using the life force, you can make corrections accordingly, by giving suitable remedies For this one has to construct the trimsamsha chart, and see which areas of life are affected, when the person faces the various arishtas. Is it young age or vriddha etc. You can also see whether remedies would work on him or not. This is based on the strength of the Mars and venus. Sun and Moon should be free from afflictions to lead a normal, healthy and happy life best wishes partha On 6/28/05, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote: Dear shri PrabodhEach amsha has got individual lords.When we say he is lording for aspan of 5 or 7 degrees,it means he lords each and every amsha falling within that span.For a sign of 30 degrees sage knew which planet has lordship forwhich all sectors.For knowing the reason,we should either meet sageor get help from other learned members of this group. ThanksPradeepvedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande"<amolmandar> wrote:> Dear Shree Vijaydas Namaste >> You may be right. But question stil remains why for each divisionin> D-30 there is no individual lord/rashi like other vargas. Hopefully> one day I may meet sage!>> Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. >> Prabodh Vekhande> Jai Jai Shankar> Har Har Shankar>>>> --- In vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > Dear shri Prabodh> >> > As i have said before amshas are even.All trimshamshas are of 1degree> > and you will have 30 trimshamshas in any sign.Thus divisions are> > similar to any other.> >> > Only difference is one planet is lording a certain span ofdegrees in> > a sign and this span is not uniform.Only sage will know the reason.> > Sun and Moon does not have ownership.> >> > Thanks> > Pradeep> >> >> > vedic astrology , "Prabodh Vekhande"> > <amolmandar> wrote:> > > Dearv Shree Pradeep Namaste> > >> > > I think the division is not even. Why is that for some degress lord> > > remains same? We see that for all vargas amsha is uniform. Imean if> > > it is D-1 one amsha,hora 2 amshas, D-3 three amshas,D-9 nineamshas,> > > D-12 twelve amshas. In all theses vargas amshas are according to name> > > of the varga and each amsha has separate lord and deity. Therule is> > > voilated only with Trishamsha in Shadvarga. In Trishamshafirst it> > > considers Odd or Even and then accordingly it divides rashi. In odd> > > rashi first two and last division is of 5 degrees and 3rd and4th> > > division of 8 and 7 respec. Thats makes total 30. In Evenrashi 2nd> > > and 3rd divisions are 7 and 8 degress and rest are of 5 making total> > > of 30.> > > So it is still not clear why such a special treatment toTrishamsha?> > >> > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.> > >> > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > Har Har Shankar> > >> > >> > > --- In vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > > > Dear shri Prabodh> > > >> > > > Trimshamsha is ofcourse 1 degree or 1/30th of a sign.But thelords> > > > remain the same for every 5 degrees in a sign. > > > > example if jupiter is at 4 degrees and moon at 3 degrees inthe> same> > > > sign they will have the same trimshamsha lord,depending onOja> yugma.> > > > > > > > Pradeep> > > >> > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande"> > > > < amolmandar> wrote:> > > > > Dear all Namaste> > > > >> > > > > What is the reason of 5 divions in Trishamsha as nameindicates 30> > > > > amshas of rashi? Another point is that the divisions are > uneven and> > > > > different for Odd and Even rashi. Why so manycomplications in D-> > > > 30?> > > > > Please clarify.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology. > > > > >> > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > > Har Har ShankarArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Links<*> vedic astrology/<*> To from this group, send an email to: vedic astrology<*> Your use of is subject to: -- V.Partha Sarathy, partvinu.blogspot.comAll that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him. -----Buddha Plot.no.71Road No.3Nagarjuna HillsHyderabadIndia-500 082 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Dear Partha Namaste Really very good post. Shree Shiv Pujan has said moreorless same thing in the Varga Chakra book. > The five unequal sectors is based upon the "nature of tatwa". This is still not clear and would be very kind of you if you explain it little bit more. I mean why uneven division and why different treatment to Odd and Even rashis? How nature of tatwa affects Odd/Even rashi diffenrtly? Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar vedic astrology, Partha Sarathy <partvinu@g...> wrote: > Dear Prabodh > The Rashi is divided into 30 trimsamsas, and then the allocation of five > unequal sectors to different tatwas. > The pancha tatwas are Mars, mercury, venus, Jupiter and Saturn. > The five unequal sectors is based upon the "nature of tatwa". > For a normal human being, the life current alternates between left nostril > to right nostril every hour. This hour can be divided into five tatwas, and > during the five different tatwas the "thinking" of the person changes. > Every person has a subconscious unnatural fear built in due to some past > experiences and past lives. Thus the "unnatural Purusha" or paapa purusha > resides in each and every human being, playing out the unnatural forces. > Thus the arishtas, illnesses, etc. > Trimshamsa can be analysed at various levels > a) To see the paapa purusha, the unnatural elements > b) To see the afflicted tatwas > c) To see the vital force and sustaining force, how they are afflicted(sun > and the moon) > d) To see the "cure" of the ailments > e) To see how the person breathes, the prana or the vital force actually > decides how long the person would stay, or how he is going to die. > f) Once you understand how a person is using the life force, you can make > corrections accordingly, by giving suitable remedies > For this one has to construct the trimsamsha chart, and see which areas of > life are affected, when the person faces the various arishtas. Is it young > age or vriddha etc. > You can also see whether remedies would work on him or not. This is based > on the strength of the Mars and venus. Sun and Moon should be free from > afflictions to lead a normal, healthy and happy life > best wishes > partha > > > On 6/28/05, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > > Dear shri Prabodh > > > > Each amsha has got individual lords.When we say he is lording for a > > span of 5 or 7 degrees,it means he lords each and every amsha > > falling within that span. > > > > For a sign of 30 degrees sage knew which planet has lordship for > > which all sectors.For knowing the reason,we should either meet sage > > or get help from other learned members of this group. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > Dear Shree Vijaydas Namaste > > > > > > You may be right. But question stil remains why for each division > > in > > > D-30 there is no individual lord/rashi like other vargas. Hopefully > > > one day I may meet sage! > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > > Dear shri Prabodh > > > > > > > > As i have said before amshas are even.All trimshamshas are of 1 > > degree > > > > and you will have 30 trimshamshas in any sign.Thus divisions are > > > > similar to any other. > > > > > > > > Only difference is one planet is lording a certain span of > > degrees in > > > > a sign and this span is not uniform.Only sage will know the > > reason. > > > > Sun and Moon does not have ownership. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > > > > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > > > Dearv Shree Pradeep Namaste > > > > > > > > > > I think the division is not even. Why is that for some > > degress lord > > > > > remains same? We see that for all vargas amsha is uniform. I > > mean if > > > > > it is D-1 one amsha,hora 2 amshas, D-3 three amshas,D-9 nine > > amshas, > > > > > D-12 twelve amshas. In all theses vargas amshas are according > > to name > > > > > of the varga and each amsha has separate lord and deity. The > > rule is > > > > > voilated only with Trishamsha in Shadvarga. In Trishamsha > > first it > > > > > considers Odd or Even and then accordingly it divides rashi. > > In odd > > > > > rashi first two and last division is of 5 degrees and 3rd and > > 4th > > > > > division of 8 and 7 respec. Thats makes total 30. In Even > > rashi 2nd > > > > > and 3rd divisions are 7 and 8 degress and rest are of 5 making > > total > > > > > of 30. > > > > > So it is still not clear why such a special treatment to > > Trishamsha? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > > > > Dear shri Prabodh > > > > > > > > > > > > Trimshamsha is ofcourse 1 degree or 1/30th of a sign.But the > > lords > > > > > > remain the same for every 5 degrees in a sign. > > > > > > example if jupiter is at 4 degrees and moon at 3 degrees in > > the > > > same > > > > > > sign they will have the same trimshamsha lord,depending on > > Oja > > > yugma. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande" > > > > > > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear all Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the reason of 5 divions in Trishamsha as name > > indicates 30 > > > > > > > amshas of rashi? Another point is that the divisions are > > > uneven and > > > > > > > different for Odd and Even rashi. Why so many > > complications in D- > > > > > > 30? > > > > > > > Please clarify. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > V.Partha Sarathy, > partvinu.blogspot.com <http://partvinu.blogspot.com> > > All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or > acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a > pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him. > -----Buddha > > > Plot.no.71 > Road No.3 > Nagarjuna Hills > Hyderabad > India-500 082 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Jai Jinendra Parthji, Please give us some example for a same.You can take anyone's example,he or she shoul not be celebrit,just some one from one of us.you can study my Trisamasa too. Analyse it,so we can study. --- Partha Sarathy <partvinu wrote: > Dear Prabodh > The Rashi is divided into 30 trimsamsas, and then > the allocation of five > unequal sectors to different tatwas. > The pancha tatwas are Mars, mercury, venus, Jupiter > and Saturn. > The five unequal sectors is based upon the "nature > of tatwa". > For a normal human being, the life current > alternates between left nostril > to right nostril every hour. This hour can be > divided into five tatwas, and > during the five different tatwas the "thinking" of > the person changes. > Every person has a subconscious unnatural fear built > in due to some past > experiences and past lives. Thus the "unnatural > Purusha" or paapa purusha > resides in each and every human being, playing out > the unnatural forces. > Thus the arishtas, illnesses, etc. > Trimshamsa can be analysed at various levels > a) To see the paapa purusha, the unnatural elements > b) To see the afflicted tatwas > c) To see the vital force and sustaining force, how > they are afflicted(sun > and the moon) > d) To see the "cure" of the ailments > e) To see how the person breathes, the prana or the > vital force actually > decides how long the person would stay, or how he is > going to die. > f) Once you understand how a person is using the > life force, you can make > corrections accordingly, by giving suitable remedies > For this one has to construct the trimsamsha chart, > and see which areas of > life are affected, when the person faces the various > arishtas. Is it young > age or vriddha etc. > You can also see whether remedies would work on him > or not. This is based > on the strength of the Mars and venus. Sun and Moon > should be free from > afflictions to lead a normal, healthy and happy life > best wishes > partha > > > On 6/28/05, vijayadas_pradeep > <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > Dear shri Prabodh > > > > Each amsha has got individual lords.When we say he > is lording for a > > span of 5 or 7 degrees,it means he lords each and > every amsha > > falling within that span. > > > > For a sign of 30 degrees sage knew which planet > has lordship for > > which all sectors.For knowing the reason,we should > either meet sage > > or get help from other learned members of this > group. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh > Vekhande" > > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > Dear Shree Vijaydas Namaste > > > > > > You may be right. But question stil remains why > for each division > > in > > > D-30 there is no individual lord/rashi like > other vargas. Hopefully > > > one day I may meet sage! > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > > Dear shri Prabodh > > > > > > > > As i have said before amshas are even.All > trimshamshas are of 1 > > degree > > > > and you will have 30 trimshamshas in any > sign.Thus divisions are > > > > similar to any other. > > > > > > > > Only difference is one planet is lording a > certain span of > > degrees in > > > > a sign and this span is not uniform.Only sage > will know the > > reason. > > > > Sun and Moon does not have ownership. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > "Prabodh Vekhande" > > > > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > > > Dearv Shree Pradeep Namaste > > > > > > > > > > I think the division is not even. Why is > that for some > > degress lord > > > > > remains same? We see that for all vargas > amsha is uniform. I > > mean if > > > > > it is D-1 one amsha,hora 2 amshas, D-3 three > amshas,D-9 nine > > amshas, > > > > > D-12 twelve amshas. In all theses vargas > amshas are according > > to name > > > > > of the varga and each amsha has separate > lord and deity. The > > rule is > > > > > voilated only with Trishamsha in Shadvarga. > In Trishamsha > > first it > > > > > considers Odd or Even and then accordingly > it divides rashi. > > In odd > > > > > rashi first two and last division is of 5 > degrees and 3rd and > > 4th > > > > > division of 8 and 7 respec. Thats makes > total 30. In Even > > rashi 2nd > > > > > and 3rd divisions are 7 and 8 degress and > rest are of 5 making > > total > > > > > of 30. > > > > > So it is still not clear why such a special > treatment to > > Trishamsha? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > > > > Dear shri Prabodh > > > > > > > > > > > > Trimshamsha is ofcourse 1 degree or 1/30th > of a sign.But the > > lords > > > > > > remain the same for every 5 degrees in a > sign. > > > > > > example if jupiter is at 4 degrees and > moon at 3 degrees in > > the > > > same > > > > > > sign they will have the same trimshamsha > lord,depending on > > Oja > > > yugma. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > "Prabodh Vekhande" > > > > > > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear all Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the reason of 5 divions in > Trishamsha as name > > indicates 30 > > > > > > > amshas of rashi? Another point is that > the divisions are > > > uneven and > > > > > > > different for Odd and Even rashi. Why so > many > > complications in D- > > > > > > 30? > > > > > > > Please clarify. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and > Astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > V.Partha Sarathy, > partvinu.blogspot.com <http://partvinu.blogspot.com> > > All that we are is the result of what we have > thought. If a man speaks or > acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a > man speaks or acts with a > pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow > that never leaves him. > -----Buddha > > > Plot.no.71 > Road No.3 > Nagarjuna Hills > Hyderabad > India-500 082 > Love is the beauty of the soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 For more information on Trimsamsa, please go to Sanjayji's website http://srath.com/lectures/trimsamsa.htm best wishes partha On 6/29/05, Prabodh Vekhande <amolmandar > wrote: Dear Partha NamasteReally very good post. Shree Shiv Pujan has said moreorless same thingin the Varga Chakra book. > The five unequal sectors is based upon the "nature of tatwa".This is still not clear and would be very kind of you if you explainit little bit more. I mean why uneven division and why different treatment to Odd and Even rashis? How nature of tatwa affects Odd/Evenrashi diffenrtly?Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.Prabodh VekhandeJai Jai ShankarHar Har Shankarvedic astrology, Partha Sarathy <partvinu@g...>wrote:> Dear Prabodh> The Rashi is divided into 30 trimsamsas, and then the allocation of five> unequal sectors to different tatwas.> The pancha tatwas are Mars, mercury, venus, Jupiter and Saturn.> The five unequal sectors is based upon the "nature of tatwa".> For a normal human being, the life current alternates between left nostril> to right nostril every hour. This hour can be divided into fivetatwas, and> during the five different tatwas the "thinking" of the person changes.> Every person has a subconscious unnatural fear built in due to some past> experiences and past lives. Thus the "unnatural Purusha" or paapapurusha> resides in each and every human being, playing out the unnatural forces.> Thus the arishtas, illnesses, etc. > Trimshamsa can be analysed at various levels> a) To see the paapa purusha, the unnatural elements> b) To see the afflicted tatwas> c) To see the vital force and sustaining force, how they are afflicted(sun> and the moon)> d) To see the "cure" of the ailments> e) To see how the person breathes, the prana or the vital forceactually> decides how long the person would stay, or how he is going to die. > f) Once you understand how a person is using the life force, you canmake> corrections accordingly, by giving suitable remedies> For this one has to construct the trimsamsha chart, and see which areas of> life are affected, when the person faces the various arishtas. Is ityoung> age or vriddha etc.> You can also see whether remedies would work on him or not. This isbased> on the strength of the Mars and venus. Sun and Moon should be free from > afflictions to lead a normal, healthy and happy life> best wishes> partha>>> On 6/28/05, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> >> > Dear shri Prabodh > >> > Each amsha has got individual lords.When we say he is lording for a> > span of 5 or 7 degrees,it means he lords each and every amsha> > falling within that span.> > > > For a sign of 30 degrees sage knew which planet has lordship for> > which all sectors.For knowing the reason,we should either meet sage> > or get help from other learned members of this group. > >> > Thanks> > Pradeep> >> > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande"> > <amolmandar@y ....> wrote:> > > Dear Shree Vijaydas Namaste> > >> > > You may be right. But question stil remains why for each division> > in> > > D-30 there is no individual lord/rashi like other vargas. Hopefully > > > one day I may meet sage!> > >> > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.> > >> > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > Har Har Shankar > > >> > >> > >> > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"> > > <vijayadas_pradeep@y ....> wrote:> > > > Dear shri Prabodh> > > >> > > > As i have said before amshas are even.All trimshamshas are of 1> > degree> > > > and you will have 30 trimshamshas in any sign.Thus divisions are> > > > similar to any other.> > > >> > > > Only difference is one planet is lording a certain span of> > degrees in> > > > a sign and this span is not uniform.Only sage will know the> > reason.> > > > Sun and Moon does not have ownership.> > > >> > > > Thanks> > > > Pradeep> > > > > > > >> > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande"> > > > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > > > Dearv Shree Pradeep Namaste> > > > >> > > > > I think the division is not even. Why is that for some> > degress lord> > > > > remains same? We see that for all vargas amsha is uniform. I > > mean if> > > > > it is D-1 one amsha,hora 2 amshas, D-3 three amshas,D-9 nine> > amshas,> > > > > D-12 twelve amshas. In all theses vargas amshas are according > > to name> > > > > of the varga and each amsha has separate lord and deity. The> > rule is> > > > > voilated only with Trishamsha in Shadvarga. In Trishamsha > > first it> > > > > considers Odd or Even and then accordingly it divides rashi.> > In odd> > > > > rashi first two and last division is of 5 degrees and 3rd and > > 4th> > > > > division of 8 and 7 respec. Thats makes total 30. In Even> > rashi 2nd> > > > > and 3rd divisions are 7 and 8 degress and rest are of 5 making> > total > > > > > of 30.> > > > > So it is still not clear why such a special treatment to> > Trishamsha?> > > > >> > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > >> > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > > Har Har Shankar> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"> > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > > > > > Dear shri Prabodh > > > > > >> > > > > > Trimshamsha is ofcourse 1 degree or 1/30th of a sign.But the> > lords> > > > > > remain the same for every 5 degrees in a sign. > > > > > > example if jupiter is at 4 degrees and moon at 3 degrees in> > the> > > same> > > > > > sign they will have the same trimshamsha lord,depending on > > Oja> > > yugma.> > > > > >> > > > > > Pradeep> > > > > >> > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prabodh Vekhande"> > > > > > <amolmandar> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear all Namaste> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the reason of 5 divions in Trishamsha as name> > indicates 30> > > > > > > amshas of rashi? Another point is that the divisions are> > > uneven and > > > > > > > different for Odd and Even rashi. Why so many> > complications in D-> > > > > > 30?> > > > > > > Please clarify.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > > > Har Har Shankar> >> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology > >> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> >> > > >> > > >> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> --> V.Partha Sarathy,> partvinu.blogspot.com <http://partvinu.blogspot.com>>> All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a manspeaks or> acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a> pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaveshim.> -----Buddha>>> Plot.no.71> Road No.3> Nagarjuna Hills> Hyderabad> India-500 082 Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.html ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Links<*> vedic astrology/<*> To from this group, send an email to: vedic astrology<*> Your use of is subject to: -- V.Partha Sarathy, partvinu.blogspot.comAll that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him. -----Buddha Plot.no.71Road No.3Nagarjuna HillsHyderabadIndia-500 082 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Take a case study of a person in and out of hospital Take a case study of a person having heart breaks in love affairs take a case study of a person involved in drug traffiking Let us take the case of Schappele Corby who was recently sentenced to 20 years imprisonment for drug Traffiking +--------------+|Gk |As HL |Ma |Su AL || | | | || | | | | | | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | | || | | | | | | || | | || | Trimsamsa | ||-----------| |-----------||Sa | D-30 | | | | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Mo |Ju Ra | |Me Ve || |Ke GL | | || |Md | | || | | | || | | | | +--------------+ As you can see A Martian Trimsamsa rises in lagna. Venus is neecha, Jupiter the akasha tatwa is severely afflicted in 8th house. 3rd and 8th house show evils from past lives. past karma. Next let us see the Trimsamsa of a cancer patient. For cancer patients we look at overgrowth of cells, thus Venus should be afflicted +--------------+|SaR Ra |AL |Ma |Ju ||Ke | | | || | | | | | | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||As | | || | | | | | | || | | || | Trimsamsa | ||-----------| |-----------||Mo Me | D-30 | | |Ve | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Su GL | |Md |HL ||Gk | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | | +--------------+ Here you can see that venus is in 12th house. Aquarius trimsamsa rises in lagna, Saturn is with rahu and ketu in 2nd house. Venus is the fourth lord of cure in the chart, and he is in 12th house. 12th house is hospitals, fifth house is mantra, fourth house is cure, 11th house is end of disease etc etc Best wishes partha On 6/29/05, Shripal <d_shripal > wrote: Jai Jinendra Parthji,Please give us some example for a same.You can takeanyone's example,he or she shoul not be celebrit,just some one from one of us.you can study my Trisamasatoo.Analyse it,so we can study.--- Partha Sarathy <partvinu > wrote:> Dear Prabodh > The Rashi is divided into 30 trimsamsas, and then> the allocation of five> unequal sectors to different tatwas.> The pancha tatwas are Mars, mercury, venus, Jupiter> and Saturn.> The five unequal sectors is based upon the "nature > of tatwa".> For a normal human being, the life current> alternates between left nostril> to right nostril every hour. This hour can be> divided into five tatwas, and> during the five different tatwas the "thinking" of > the person changes.> Every person has a subconscious unnatural fear built> in due to some past> experiences and past lives. Thus the "unnatural> Purusha" or paapa purusha > resides in each and every human being, playing out> the unnatural forces.> Thus the arishtas, illnesses, etc.> Trimshamsa can be analysed at various levels> a) To see the paapa purusha, the unnatural elements > b) To see the afflicted tatwas> c) To see the vital force and sustaining force, how> they are afflicted(sun> and the moon)> d) To see the "cure" of the ailments> e) To see how the person breathes, the prana or the > vital force actually> decides how long the person would stay, or how he is> going to die.> f) Once you understand how a person is using the> life force, you can make> corrections accordingly, by giving suitable remedies > For this one has to construct the trimsamsha chart,> and see which areas of> life are affected, when the person faces the various> arishtas. Is it young> age or vriddha etc.> You can also see whether remedies would work on him > or not. This is based> on the strength of the Mars and venus. Sun and Moon> should be free from> afflictions to lead a normal, healthy and happy life> best wishes> partha> >> On 6/28/05, vijayadas_pradeep> <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote:> >> > Dear shri Prabodh> >> > Each amsha has got individual lords.When we say he> is lording for a> > span of 5 or 7 degrees,it means he lords each and> every amsha> > falling within that span.> >> > For a sign of 30 degrees sage knew which planet > has lordship for> > which all sectors.For knowing the reason,we should> either meet sage> > or get help from other learned members of this> group.> >> > Thanks > > Pradeep> >> > vedic astrology, "Prabodh> Vekhande"> > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > Dear Shree Vijaydas Namaste> > >> > > You may be right. But question stil remains why> for each division> > in> > > D-30 there is no individual lord/rashi like > other vargas. Hopefully> > > one day I may meet sage!> > >> > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.> > >> > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > Har Har Shankar> > >> > >> > >> > > --- In vedic astrology,> "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > > > Dear shri Prabodh> > > >> > > > As i have said before amshas are even.All> trimshamshas are of 1> > degree > > > > and you will have 30 trimshamshas in any> sign.Thus divisions are> > > > similar to any other.> > > >> > > > Only difference is one planet is lording a > certain span of> > degrees in> > > > a sign and this span is not uniform.Only sage> will know the> > reason.> > > > Sun and Moon does not have ownership. > > > >> > > > Thanks> > > > Pradeep> > > >> > > >> > > > --- In vedic astrology ,> "Prabodh Vekhande"> > > > <amolmandar> wrote:> > > > > Dearv Shree Pradeep Namaste> > > > >> > > > > I think the division is not even. Why is > that for some> > degress lord> > > > > remains same? We see that for all vargas> amsha is uniform. I> > mean if> > > > > it is D-1 one amsha,hora 2 amshas, D-3 three > amshas,D-9 nine> > amshas,> > > > > D-12 twelve amshas. In all theses vargas> amshas are according> > to name> > > > > of the varga and each amsha has separate > lord and deity. The> > rule is> > > > > voilated only with Trishamsha in Shadvarga.> In Trishamsha> > first it> > > > > considers Odd or Even and then accordingly > it divides rashi.> > In odd> > > > > rashi first two and last division is of 5> degrees and 3rd and> > 4th> > > > > division of 8 and 7 respec. Thats makes > total 30. In Even> > rashi 2nd> > > > > and 3rd divisions are 7 and 8 degress and> rest are of 5 making> > total> > > > > of 30.> > > > > So it is still not clear why such a special > treatment to> > Trishamsha?> > > > >> > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.> > > > >> > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > Har Har Shankar> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- In vedic astrology, > "vijayadas_pradeep"> > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > > > > > Dear shri Prabodh> > > > > >> > > > > > Trimshamsha is ofcourse 1 degree or 1/30th > of a sign.But the> > lords> > > > > > remain the same for every 5 degrees in a> sign.> > > > > > example if jupiter is at 4 degrees and> moon at 3 degrees in > > the> > > same> > > > > > sign they will have the same trimshamsha> lord,depending on> > Oja> > > yugma.> > > > > >> > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > >> > > > > > vedic astrology,> "Prabodh Vekhande"> > > > > > < amolmandar> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear all Namaste> > > > > > >> > > > > > > What is the reason of 5 divions in> Trishamsha as name > > indicates 30> > > > > > > amshas of rashi? Another point is that> the divisions are> > > uneven and> > > > > > > different for Odd and Even rashi. Why so > many> > complications in D-> > > > > > 30?> > > > > > > Please clarify.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and > Astrology.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > > > > Har Har Shankar > >> >> >> >> > Archives:> vedic astrology> >> > Group info: >vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-> >> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> >> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > Groups Links > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> --> V.Partha Sarathy,> partvinu.blogspot.com <http://partvinu.blogspot.com>>> All that we are is the result of what we have> thought. If a man speaks or> acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a > man speaks or acts with a> pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow> that never leaves him.> -----Buddha>>> Plot.no.71> Road No.3> Nagarjuna Hills > Hyderabad> India-500 082>Love is the beauty of the soulTired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Links<*> vedic astrology/ <*> vedic astrology<*> Your use of is subject to: -- V.Partha Sarathy, partvinu.blogspot.com All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him. -----Buddha Plot.no.71Road No.3Nagarjuna HillsHyderabadIndia-500 082 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Jai Jinendra Parthaji, Below is my Parasari Trisamsa. 1)As you said 4th Lord is for cure and jupier is in it's own sign with Mars,so I will take it as positive note. 2)8th Lord is in 2nd house with Rahu and Ketu ans aspecting 8th house,so positive or negative. 3)3rd Lord is in 6th house,so that too is positive. What prediction should I make for a below chart,it is afflicted with What kind of ailments or problems that he will be facing in Life. Trimsamsa D-30 +--------------+ | \ Ra Ke / \ / | | \ Mo / \ / | | \ 10 / \ / | | \ / Su \ / | | \ / \ / | | x As x GL | | / \ / \ | | / 12 \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Ju \ 9 / Ve \ | | / \ / 6 \ | | AL Ma x Me | | \ / \ / | | \ HL / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | x Gk x | | / \ / \ | | / 2 \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Sa \ / \ | | / Md \ / \ | +--------------+ One more chart I know this Individual very Well. Birth date:26th Oct 1960 Time:9.43 Place:Junagadh,India 1)If we see below chart Venus is exalted in Lagna of Trishamasa,so it shows person will definately rise in Life,will have good reputation,designation etc. 2)I would like your comment on below chart,than i would like to clarify some other details too. Trimsamsa D-30 +--------------+ | \ / \ Ju Gk / | | \ / \ Su / | | \ / \ 11 / | | \ / Ve \ / | | \ / \ / | |Me 2 x As x AL | | / \ / \ 10 | | / \ GL / \ | | / 3 \ / \ | | / Ma \ 12 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Ra Mo Ke x Md | | \ / \ / | | \ Sa / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | x HL x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | +--------------+ --- Partha Sarathy <partvinu wrote: > Dear Shripal > Take a case study of a person in and out of > hospital > Take a case study of a person having heart breaks in > love affairs > take a case study of a person involved in drug > traffiking > Let us take the case of Schappele Corby who was > recently sentenced to 20 > years imprisonment for drug Traffiking > +--------------+ > |Gk |As HL |Ma |Su AL | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | Trimsamsa | | > |-----------| |-----------| > |Sa | D-30 | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Mo |Ju Ra | |Me Ve | > | |Ke GL | | | > | |Md | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +--------------+ > > As you can see A Martian Trimsamsa rises in lagna. > Venus is neecha, Jupiter > the akasha tatwa is severely afflicted in 8th house. > 3rd and 8th house show evils from past lives. past > karma. > Next let us see the Trimsamsa of a cancer patient. > For cancer patients we > look at overgrowth of cells, thus Venus should be > afflicted > +--------------+ > |SaR Ra |AL |Ma |Ju | > |Ke | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |As | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | Trimsamsa | | > |-----------| |-----------| > |Mo Me | D-30 | | > |Ve | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Su GL | |Md |HL | > |Gk | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +--------------+ > > Here you can see that venus is in 12th house. > Aquarius trimsamsa rises in > lagna, Saturn is with rahu and ketu in 2nd house. > Venus is the fourth lord of cure in the chart, and > he is in 12th house. > 12th house is hospitals, fifth house is mantra, > fourth house is cure, 11th > house is end of disease etc etc > Best wishes > partha > > > On 6/29/05, Shripal <d_shripal wrote: > > > > Jai Jinendra Parthji, > > > > Please give us some example for a same.You can > take > > anyone's example,he or she shoul not be > celebrit,just > > some one from one of us.you can study my Trisamasa > > too. > > > > Analyse it,so we can study. > > > > --- Partha Sarathy <partvinu wrote: > > > > > Dear Prabodh > > > The Rashi is divided into 30 trimsamsas, and > then > > > the allocation of five > > > unequal sectors to different tatwas. > > > The pancha tatwas are Mars, mercury, venus, > Jupiter > > > and Saturn. > > > The five unequal sectors is based upon the > "nature > > > of tatwa". > > > For a normal human being, the life current > > > alternates between left nostril > > > to right nostril every hour. This hour can be > > > divided into five tatwas, and > > > during the five different tatwas the "thinking" > of > > > the person changes. > > > Every person has a subconscious unnatural fear > built > > > in due to some past > > > experiences and past lives. Thus the "unnatural > > > Purusha" or paapa purusha > > > resides in each and every human being, playing > out > > > the unnatural forces. > > > Thus the arishtas, illnesses, etc. > > > Trimshamsa can be analysed at various levels > > > a) To see the paapa purusha, the unnatural > elements > > > b) To see the afflicted tatwas > > > c) To see the vital force and sustaining force, > how > > > they are afflicted(sun > > > and the moon) > > > d) To see the "cure" of the ailments > > > e) To see how the person breathes, the prana or > the > > > vital force actually > > > decides how long the person would stay, or how > he is > > > going to die. > > > f) Once you understand how a person is using the > > > life force, you can make > > > corrections accordingly, by giving suitable > remedies > > > For this one has to construct the trimsamsha > chart, > > > and see which areas of > > > life are affected, when the person faces the > various > > > arishtas. Is it young > > > age or vriddha etc. > > > You can also see whether remedies would work on > him > > > or not. This is based > > > on the strength of the Mars and venus. Sun and > Moon > > > should be free from > > > afflictions to lead a normal, healthy and happy > life > > > best wishes > > > partha > > > > > > > > > On 6/28/05, vijayadas_pradeep > > > <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear shri Prabodh > > > > > > > > Each amsha has got individual lords.When we > say he > > > is lording for a > > > > span of 5 or 7 degrees,it means he lords each > and > > > every amsha > > > > falling within that span. > > > > > > > > For a sign of 30 degrees sage knew which > planet > > > has lordship for > > > > which all sectors.For knowing the reason,we > should > > > either meet sage > > > > or get help from other learned members of this > > > group. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > "Prabodh > > > Vekhande" > > > > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > > > Dear Shree Vijaydas Namaste > > > > > > > > > > You may be right. But question stil remains > why > > > for each division > > > > in > > > > > D-30 there is no individual lord/rashi like > > > other vargas. Hopefully > > > > > one day I may meet sage! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > > > "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > > > > Dear shri Prabodh > > > > > > > > > > > > As i have said before amshas are even.All > > > trimshamshas are of 1 > > > > degree > > > > > > and you will have 30 trimshamshas in any > > > sign.Thus divisions are > > > > > > similar to any other. > > > > > > > > > > > > Only difference is one planet is lording a > > > certain span of > > > > degrees in > > > > > > a sign and this span is not uniform.Only > sage > > > will know the > > > > reason. > > > > > > Sun and Moon does not have ownership. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > > > "Prabodh Vekhande" > > > > > > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > > > > > Dearv Shree Pradeep Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the division is not even. Why is > > > that for some > > > > degress lord > > > > > > > remains same? We see that for all vargas > > > amsha is uniform. I > > > > mean if > > > > > > > it is D-1 one amsha,hora 2 amshas, D-3 > three > > > amshas,D-9 nine > > > > amshas, > > > > > > > D-12 twelve amshas. In all theses vargas > > > amshas are according > > > > to name > > > > > > > of the varga and each amsha has separate > > > lord and deity. The > > > > rule is > > > > > > > voilated only with Trishamsha in > Shadvarga. > > > In Trishamsha > > > > first it > > > > > > > considers Odd or Even and then > accordingly > > > it divides rashi. > > > > In odd > > > > > > > rashi first two and last division is of > 5 > > > degrees and 3rd and > > > > 4th > > > > > > > division of 8 and 7 respec. Thats makes > > > total 30. In Even > > > > rashi 2nd > > > > > > > and 3rd divisions are 7 and 8 degress > and > > > rest are of 5 making > > > > total > > > > > > > of 30. > > > > > > > So it is still not clear why such a > special > > > treatment to > > > > Trishamsha? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > > > "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear shri Prabodh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trimshamsha is ofcourse 1 degree or > 1/30th > > > of a sign.But the > > > > lords > > > > > > > > remain the same for every 5 degrees in > a > > > sign. > > > > > > > > example if jupiter is at 4 degrees and > > > moon at 3 degrees in > > > > the > > > > > same > > > > > > > > sign they will have the same > trimshamsha > > > lord,depending on > > > > Oja > > > > > yugma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > vedic astrology, > > > "Prabodh Vekhande" > > > > > > > > <amolmandar> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear all Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the reason of 5 divions in > > > Trishamsha as name > > > > indicates 30 > > > > > > > > > amshas of rashi? Another point is > that > > > the divisions are > > > > > uneven and > > > > > > > > > different for Odd and Even rashi. > Why so > > > many > > > > complications in D- > > > > > > > > 30? > > > > > > > > > Please clarify. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and > > > Astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us > ....... > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > || > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > V.Partha Sarathy, > > > partvinu.blogspot.com > <http://partvinu.blogspot.com> < > > http://partvinu.blogspot.com> > > > > > > All that we are is the result of what we have > > > thought. If a man speaks or > > > acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If > a > > > man speaks or acts with a > > > pure thought, happiness follows him, like a > shadow > > > that never leaves him. > > > -----Buddha > > > > > > > > > Plot.no.71 > > > Road No.3 > > > Nagarjuna Hills > > > Hyderabad > > > India-500 082 > > > > > > > > > Love is the beauty of the soul > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > V.Partha Sarathy, > partvinu.blogspot.com <http://partvinu.blogspot.com> > > All that we are is the result of what we have > thought. If a man speaks or > acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a > man speaks or acts with a > pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow > that never leaves him. > -----Buddha > > > Plot.no.71 > Road No.3 > Nagarjuna Hills > Hyderabad > India-500 082 > Love is the beauty of the soul __ Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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