Kundalini, Sadhana, Austerities /Pradeep,Shri Sabri

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Hare Krishna

Dear Pradeep and Sabri,

I've never quite understood about Kundalini experience and Im trying

to learn more.Is it possible to have Kundalini experience without

really knowing it at all? I've always had too much energy internal,

that prevents me from sleeping properly and also it has been hard on

my physical body as I exert my effort than my body has.

2)Can someone use their Kundalini energy to heal people physically

without knowing its their kundalini energy?Can it be used in such a

way? There are people who can heal ohters by a laying on of hands and

such things.

 

Looking at my chart it seems there should be the elements of some

possibilites for Kundalini experiences , but Im not sure if it is

sufficient. If you have time I'd appreciate your view on my charts.

My charts are below, rasi, Navamsa, and D-20.

Possibilites for such

Rasi Gemini rising-Ketu in lagna, LL in 8th house,aspected by Venus

12th lord. Venus,12th lord aspects 12th house along

with,Sun,Merc.LL,ex8/9th lord Sat,Moon,and exjup. so taurus 12th

house seems strong.

A8 is aires, only aspected by Rahu from sag, and Venus 12th lord.

In navamsa, taurus lagna is equally strong,with AK sat, merc(rasi LL)

in it.ANd aspected by Venus(natal 12th lord),Rahu/Jupiter,Ketu/Sun,

and Moon.

Aires(which is A8 in rasi)is the 12th house in navamsa.

 

IN D-20,

lagna is capricorn, which is natal Rasi 8th house and dispositor of

LL.Saturn,(rasi 8th lord), and AK is in 9th house.

Taurus(12th house in Rasi) is in the D-20,5th house and aspects lagna

and in 5th house taurus is Moon,jupiter and Sun, aspected(rashi

drishti)by Venus in libra, and Merc from aquarious.

Sat as Natal 8th lord is aspected by nodes from pisces,and Mars,etc

 

Aires,significant as the Rasi A8, doesnt seem to have much to do here.

4th from my AK in D-20, is Mars in sag.

In all 3 charts, mars(lord of A8) in in the dual signs,

 

Although ,there are alot of connections amoungst planets,

is there sufficent link to Rahu/ketu to the other indications.

So im curious if such placements can/will/already have given any

Kundalini experience?

Thank-you,best wishes,

Lakshmi

LakshmiKary

 

Natal Chart

 

January 15, 1955

Time: 5:15:00 pm

Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT)

Place: 96 W 22' 11", 30 N 40' 27"

Texas, USA

Altitude: 0.00 meters

 

Lunar Yr-Mo: Jaya - Pushya

Tithi: Krishna Ashtami (Ra) (46.14% left)

Vedic Weekday: Saturday (Sa)

Nakshatra: Chitra (Ma) (32.90% left)

Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (94.27% left)

Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (92.27% left)

Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi)

Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Ta)

Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Venus)

 

Sunrise: 7:24:53 am

Sunset: 5:45:57 pm

Janma Ghatis: 24.5879

 

Ayanamsa: 23-14-01.97

Sidereal Time: 0:28:02

 

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

 

Lagna 26 Ge 04' 58.94" Puna 2 Ge Ta

Sun - GK 1 Cp 49' 00.79" USha 2 Cp Cp

Moon - PK 2 Li 16' 49.56" Chit 3 Li Li

Mars - PiK 7 Pi 19' 51.21" UBha 2 Pi Vi

Mercury - MK 15 Cp 04' 29.77" Srav 2 Cp Ta

Jupiter ® - DK 1 Cn 39' 07.44" Puna 4 Cn Cn

Venus - BK 15 Sc 21' 15.37" Anu 4 Sc Sc

Saturn - AK 26 Li 18' 49.20" Visa 2 Li Ta

Rahu - AmK 11 Sg 23' 52.82" Mool 4 Sg Cn

Ketu 11 Ge 23' 52.82" Ardr 2 Ge Cp

Maandi 11 Cp 22' 01.10" Srav 1 Cp Ar

Gulika 0 Cp 33' 37.35" USha 2 Cp Cp

Uranus ® 2 Cn 27' 06.95" Puna 4 Cn Cn

Neptune 4 Li 57' 11.66" Chit 4 Li Sc

Pluto ® 3 Le 01' 59.22" Magh 1 Le Ar

Bhava Lagna 28 Ta 55' 36.43" Mrig 2 Ta Vi

Hora Lagna 26 Li 27' 14.64" Visa 2 Li Ta

Ghati Lagna 19 Cp 02' 09.26" Srav 3 Cp Ge

Vighati Lagna 11 Pi 56' 42.35" UBha 3 Pi Li

Varnada Lagna 26 Cp 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Cp Ge

Sree Lagna 27 Aq 39' 17.04" PBha 3 Aq Ge

Pranapada Lagna 12 Pi 21' 44.91" UBha 3 Pi Li

Indu Lagna 2 Ge 16' 49.56" Mrig 3 Ge Li

Dhooma 15 Ta 09' 00.79" Rohi 2 Ta Ta

Vyatipata 14 Aq 50' 59.21" Sata 3 Aq Aq

Parivesha 14 Le 50' 59.21" PPha 1 Le Le

Indra Chapa 15 Sc 09' 00.79" Anu 4 Sc Sc

Upaketu 1 Sg 49' 00.79" Mool 1 Sg Ar

Kaala 3 Pi 25' 59.16" UBha 1 Pi Le

Mrityu 26 Ar 48' 44.24" Krit 1 Ar Sg

Artha Prahara 18 Ta 24' 10.43" Rohi 3 Ta Ge

Yama Ghantaka 7 Ge 12' 15.72" Ardr 1 Ge Sg

Prana Sphuta 10 Pi 58' 32.04" UBha 3 Pi Li

Deha Sphuta 18 Cp 48' 13.83" Srav 3 Cp Ge

Mrityu Sphuta 5 Ar 44' 22.26" Aswi 2 Ar Ta

Sookshma TriSphuta 5 Cp 31' 08.13" USha 3 Cp Aq

TriSphuta 28 Vi 55' 25.85" Chit 2 Vi Vi

ChatusSphuta 0 Cn 44' 26.64" Puna 4 Cn Cn

PanchaSphuta 12 Pi 08' 19.46" UBha 3 Pi Li

V2 26 Aq 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Aq Vi

V3 26 Ta 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Ta Li

V4 26 Ge 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Ge Cp

V5 26 Vi 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Vi Aq

V6 26 Li 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Li Ta

V7 26 Cp 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Cp Ge

V8 26 Aq 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Aq Vi

V9 26 Ta 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Ta Li

V10 26 Ge 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Ge Cp

V11 26 Vi 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Vi Aq

V12 26 Li 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Li Ta

Kunda 12 Le 43' 33.97" Magh 4 Le Cn

 

Rasi

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Navamsa -

Navamsa D-9

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|Ma x Ve x Ke Su |

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Lakshmi D-20

Vimsamsa D-20

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Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

 

Mars Mars 1950-05-04 Rah 1950-10-04 Jup 1951-10-22

Sat 1952-09-27 Merc 1953-11-06 Ket 1954-11-03

Ven 1955-03-29 Sun 1956-05-29 Moon 1956-10-07

Rah Rah 1957-05-04 Jup 1960-01-16 Sat 1962-06-11

Merc 1965-04-16 Ket 1967-11-07 Ven 1968-11-24

Sun 1971-11-24 Moon 1972-10-19 Mars 1974-04-16

Jup Jup 1975-05-05 Sat 1977-06-23 Merc 1980-01-05

Ket 1982-04-10 Ven 1983-03-17 Sun 1985-11-18

Moon 1986-09-07 Mars 1988-01-05 Rah 1988-12-12

Sat Sat 1991-05-05 Merc 1994-05-08 Ket 1997-01-16

Ven 1998-02-24 Sun 2001-04-25 Moon 2002-04-07

Mars 2003-11-10 Rah 2004-12-18 Jup 2007-10-26

Merc Merc 2010-05-05 Ket 2012-10-04 Ven 2013-10-01

Sun 2016-07-31 Moon 2017-06-05 Mars 2018-11-07

Rah 2019-11-04 Jup 2022-05-20 Sat 2024-08-28

Ket Ket 2027-05-05 Ven 2027-10-05 Sun 2028-12-03

Moon 2029-04-07 Mars 2029-11-09 Rah 2030-04-04

Jup 2031-04-23 Sat 2032-03-29 Merc 2033-05-08

Ven Ven 2034-05-05 Sun 2037-09-07 Moon 2038-09-07

Mars 2040-05-04 Rah 2041-07-06 Jup 2044-07-06

Sat 2047-03-05 Merc 2050-05-05 Ket 2053-03-05

Sun Sun 2054-05-05 Moon 2054-08-26 Mars 2055-02-21

Rah 2055-07-01 Jup 2056-05-23 Sat 2057-03-11

Merc 2058-02-21 Ket 2058-12-30 Ven 2059-05-05

Moon Moon 2060-05-04 Mars 2061-03-05 Rah 2060-10-07

Jup 2063-04-05 Sat 2064-08-07 Merc 2066-03-05

Ket 2067-08-07 Ven 2068-03-05 Sun 2069-11-07

 

Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

 

Maha Dasas:

 

Ge: 1955-01-15 (5:15:00 pm) - 1962-01-15 (12:14:55 pm)

Li: 1962-01-15 (12:14:55 pm) - 1963-01-15 (6:31:30 pm)

Aq: 1963-01-15 (6:31:30 pm) - 1968-01-16 (1:11:27 am)

Pi: 1968-01-16 (1:11:27 am) - 1977-01-15 (8:39:42 am)

Cn: 1977-01-15 (8:39:42 am) - 1986-01-15 (3:59:45 pm)

Sc: 1986-01-15 (3:59:45 pm) - 1990-01-15 (4:42:01 pm)

Sg: 1990-01-15 (4:42:01 pm) - 1998-01-15 (5:57:32 pm)

Ar: 1998-01-15 (5:57:32 pm) - 2009-01-15 (1:37:23 pm)

Le: 2009-01-15 (1:37:23 pm) - 2016-01-16 (8:35:52 am)

Vi: 2016-01-16 (8:35:52 am) - 2024-01-16 (9:52:47 am)

Cp: 2024-01-16 (9:52:47 am) - 2028-01-16 (10:34:18 am)

Ta: 2028-01-16 (10:34:18 am) - 2034-01-15 (11:35:19 pm)

Ge: 2034-01-15 (11:35:19 pm) - 2039-01-16 (6:21:12 am)

Li: 2039-01-16 (6:21:12 am) - 2050-01-16 (2:01:36 am)

Aq: 2050-01-16 (2:01:36 am) - 2057-01-15 (9:02:05 pm)

Pi: 2057-01-15 (9:02:05 pm) - 2060-01-16 (3:30:40 pm)

Cn: 2060-01-16 (3:30:40 pm) - 2063-01-16 (10:02:30 am)

Sc: 2063-01-16 (10:02:30 am) - 2071-01-16 (11:18:16 am)

Sg: 2071-01-16 (11:18:16 am) - 2075-01-16 (11:47:33 am)

Ar: 2075-01-16 (11:47:33 am) - 2076-01-16 (5:54:50 pm)

Le: 2076-01-16 (5:54:50 pm) - 2081-01-16 (12:46:26 am)

Vi: 2081-01-16 (12:46:26 am) - 2085-01-16 (1:23:01 am)

Cp: 2085-01-16 (1:23:01 am) - 2093-01-16 (2:38:50 am)

Ta: 2093-01-16 (2:38:50 am) - 2099-01-16 (3:32:39 pm)

Narayana Dasa of D-20 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

 

Maha Dasas:

 

Pi: 1955-01-15 (5:15:00 pm) - 1965-01-15 (6:42:04 am)

Sc: 1965-01-15 (6:42:04 am) - 1969-01-15 (7:22:09 am)

Cn: 1969-01-15 (7:22:09 am) - 1972-01-16 (1:48:03 am)

Ge: 1972-01-16 (1:48:03 am) - 1980-01-16 (3:06:54 am)

Aq: 1980-01-16 (3:06:54 am) - 1991-01-15 (10:51:10 pm)

Li: 1991-01-15 (10:51:10 pm) - 2003-01-16 (12:37:50 am)

Vi: 2003-01-16 (12:37:50 am) - 2010-01-15 (7:47:11 pm)

Ta: 2010-01-15 (7:47:11 pm) - 2015-01-16 (2:37:23 am)

Cp: 2015-01-16 (2:37:23 am) - 2019-01-16 (3:01:31 am)

Sg: 2019-01-16 (3:01:31 am) - 2024-01-16 (9:52:47 am)

Le: 2024-01-16 (9:52:47 am) - 2027-01-16 (4:20:12 am)

Ar: 2027-01-16 (4:20:12 am) - 2035-01-16 (5:37:19 am)

Pi: 2035-01-16 (5:37:19 am) - 2037-01-15 (5:54:41 pm)

Sc: 2037-01-15 (5:54:41 pm) - 2045-01-15 (7:09:52 pm)

Cn: 2045-01-15 (7:09:52 pm) - 2054-01-16 (2:28:23 am)

Ge: 2054-01-16 (2:28:23 am) - 2058-01-16 (3:18:45 am)

Aq: 2058-01-16 (3:18:45 am) - 2059-01-16 (9:20:38 am)

Li: 2059-01-16 (9:20:38 am) - 2059-01-16 (9:20:38 am)

Vi: 2059-01-16 (9:20:38 am) - 2064-01-16 (4:04:59 pm)

Ta: 2064-01-16 (4:04:59 pm) - 2071-01-16 (11:18:16 am)

Cp: 2071-01-16 (11:18:16 am) - 2079-01-16 (12:25:08 pm)

Sg: 2079-01-16 (12:25:08 pm) - 2086-01-16 (7:32:36 am)

Le: 2086-01-16 (7:32:36 am) - 2095-01-16 (2:58:40 pm)

Ar: 2095-01-16 (2:58:40 pm) - 2099-01-16 (3:32:39 pm)

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> Dear shri Sabri

>

> It was nice to read your post and valuable thoughts.

> Satisfaction can result because of lack of knowledge as well as true

> knowledge.

> True and realized soulss have no doubts and are satisfied.False

> bleiefs and our own convictions can also make us satisfied.

> But non satisfaction and the desire for knowing the Truth,marks the

> beginning of our journey.Obsession and deep attachment towards our

> goal,results.

>

> Undersatnding Rahu and Ketu as you have mentioned may help us here.

>

> Rahu and Ketu are the forces which encompass the essence of all the

> energy forms and tattwas.They bind the forces together.When in true

> form, they represent the confluence of all energies.

>

> Rahu is like the force which can absorb all the ''colours''of

> light.We know when an object absorbs all and liberates none the

> result is black.Sage said Rahu will give the results of the sign

> (lord) it occuppies and the planets it associate.Thus when the 8th

> lord is associating, Rahu absorbs all that is related to the 8th

> bhava, as advised by sage.This results in a deep obsession towards

> 8th house matters.Thus your points are really valauble.Now if other

> planets too influence Rahu,the results will be mixed.

>

> ketu is the reverse force.When Rahu is like a magnet which attracts

> iron filings,ketu is like a fan which can blow finer particles.Ketu

> is thus the liberating force,which attracts none.When an object

> absorbs none and liberates all,the result is white.

>

> 12th house is the house of energy spent.When Ketu is in the

12th,all

> the energy gets liberated,resulting in vimochana from this samsara

or

> liberation from the bondage of births and rebirths.

>

> When all that is absorbed is being liberated,the result is

> white.Vimshamsha is for worship and spiritual

inclinations.Sidhamsha

> is for the sidhis that we have.Spirituality is the direction

towards

> spirit or the soul.As Rahu and Ketu will be always under the

> influence of a single planet (falling in amsha lorded by the same

> planet) for matters of Vimshamsha,this amsha may be holding a vital

> key as Narasimha ji has mentioned.Conisidering Bhavas in Rashi

> chakra and seeing their relationship in vimshamsha may take us

> closer than considering bhavas in amshas, is my undersatnding as

> advised by sage.

>

> Thus looking at Rahu in a chart will reveal our obsessions while

Ketu

> reveals what we want to liberate.The obsession results in a

> strain.When Vairagya is also present the effect may be full.Release

> of sexual energy can be with or without our control.when it is

> within our control,the duration of pleasure is prolonged and fully

> felt.Breath control is the key.Similarly release of any form of

> energy is a pleasure.True energy when liberated with our

> knowledge,results in the ultimate satisfaction.This may be the

> awakening.when we are aware of the awakening,we may feel the

passage

> of energy through all the channels or one may enjoy and feel all

the

> constiuents of light.

>

> These are just my humble thoughts,which got triggered after reading

> valuable thoughts from you and other learned members of this group.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kundalini is inherently latent energy - it can be used as a healing energy but

that should be detached from as that can increase desire. "I can heal others!"

becomes an ego gratification and takes one away from non-duality. All psychic

and healing phemonena become apparent as the kundalini rises but it should be

appreciated with humility as it distracts from realization.

As far as the sleeping problems that is a problem for almost all in this yuga

but can also be a by-product of your nervous system trying to adjust to the new

wellspring of energy in its nerves. Think of it as trying to use a 100 watt

bulb in an outlet that only accepts 20 watts.

Best wishes,

michael

lakshmikary <lakshmikary > wrote:

Hare KrishnaDear Pradeep and Sabri,I've never quite understood about Kundalini

experience and Im trying to learn more.Is it possible to have Kundalini

experience without really knowing it at all? I've always had too much energy

internal, that prevents me from sleeping properly and also it has been hard on

my physical body as I exert my effort than my body has.2)Can someone use their

Kundalini energy to heal people physically without knowing its their kundalini

energy?Can it be used in such a way? There are people who can heal ohters by a

laying on of hands and such things.Looking at my chart it seems there should

be the elements of some possibilites for Kundalini experiences , but Im not

sure if it is sufficient. If you have time I'd appreciate your view on my

charts.My charts are below, rasi, Navamsa, and

D-20.Possibilites for suchRasi Gemini rising-Ketu in lagna, LL in 8th

house,aspected by Venus 12th lord. Venus,12th lord aspects 12th house along

with,Sun,Merc.LL,ex8/9th lord Sat,Moon,and exjup. so taurus 12th house seems

strong.A8 is aires, only aspected by Rahu from sag, and Venus 12th lord.In

navamsa, taurus lagna is equally strong,with AK sat, merc(rasi LL)in it.ANd

aspected by Venus(natal 12th lord),Rahu/Jupiter,Ketu/Sun, and Moon.Aires(which

is A8 in rasi)is the 12th house in navamsa.IN D-20,lagna is capricorn, which is

natal Rasi 8th house and dispositor of LL.Saturn,(rasi 8th lord), and AK is in

9th house.Taurus(12th house in Rasi) is in the D-20,5th house and aspects

lagnaand in 5th house taurus is Moon,jupiter and Sun, aspected(rashi drishti)by

Venus in libra, and Merc from aquarious.Sat as Natal 8th lord is aspected by

nodes from pisces,and Mars,etcAires,significant as the Rasi A8, doesnt

seem to have much to do here.4th from my AK in D-20, is Mars in sag.In all 3

charts, mars(lord of A8) in in the dual signs,Although ,there are alot of

connections amoungst planets,is there sufficent link to Rahu/ketu to the other

indications.So im curious if such placements can/will/already have given any

Kundalini experience?Thank-you,best wishes,LakshmiLakshmiKaryNatal Chart

January 15, 1955Time: 5:15:00 pmTime Zone: 6:00:00 (West of

GMT)Place: 96 W 22' 11", 30 N 40' 27" Texas,

USAAltitude: 0.00 metersLunar Yr-Mo: Jaya - PushyaTithi:

Krishna Ashtami (Ra) (46.14% left)Vedic Weekday: Saturday (Sa)Nakshatra:

Chitra (Ma) (32.90% left)Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (94.27% left)Karana:

Kaulava (Ma) (92.27% left)Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi)Mahakala Hora: Sun

(5 min sign: Ta)Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Venus)Sunrise: 7:24:53

amSunset: 5:45:57 pmJanma Ghatis: 24.5879Ayanamsa:

23-14-01.97Sidereal Time: 0:28:02Body Longitude Nakshatra

Pada Rasi NavamsaLagna 26 Ge 04' 58.94"

Puna 2 Ge TaSun - GK 1 Cp 49' 00.79" USha 2 Cp

CpMoon - PK 2 Li 16' 49.56" Chit 3 Li LiMars - PiK

7 Pi 19' 51.21" UBha 2 Pi ViMercury - MK 15 Cp 04' 29.77"

Srav 2 Cp TaJupiter ® - DK 1 Cn 39' 07.44" Puna 4 Cn

CnVenus - BK 15 Sc 21' 15.37" Anu

4 Sc ScSaturn - AK 26 Li 18' 49.20" Visa 2 Li TaRahu -

AmK 11 Sg 23' 52.82" Mool 4 Sg CnKetu 11 Ge

23' 52.82" Ardr 2 Ge CpMaandi 11 Cp 22' 01.10" Srav

1 Cp ArGulika 0 Cp 33' 37.35" USha 2 Cp CpUranus

® 2 Cn 27' 06.95"

Puna 4 Cn CnNeptune 4 Li 57' 11.66" Chit 4 Li

ScPluto ® 3 Le 01' 59.22" Magh 1 Le ArBhava Lagna

28 Ta 55' 36.43" Mrig 2 Ta ViHora Lagna 26 Li 27' 14.64"

Visa 2 Li TaGhati Lagna 19 Cp 02' 09.26" Srav 3 Cp

GeVighati Lagna 11 Pi 56' 42.35" UBha

3 Pi LiVarnada Lagna 26 Cp 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Cp GeSree

Lagna 27 Aq 39' 17.04" PBha 3 Aq GePranapada Lagna 12 Pi

21' 44.91" UBha 3 Pi LiIndu Lagna 2 Ge 16' 49.56" Mrig

3 Ge LiDhooma 15 Ta 09' 00.79" Rohi 2 Ta

TaVyatipata 14 Aq 50' 59.21" Sata 3 Aq

AqParivesha 14 Le 50' 59.21" PPha 1 Le LeIndra Chapa

15 Sc 09' 00.79" Anu 4 Sc ScUpaketu 1 Sg 49' 00.79" Mool

1 Sg ArKaala 3 Pi 25' 59.16" UBha 1 Pi

LeMrityu 26 Ar 48' 44.24" Krit 1 Ar SgArtha Prahara

18 Ta 24' 10.43" Rohi 3

Ta GeYama Ghantaka 7 Ge 12' 15.72" Ardr 1 Ge SgPrana Sphuta

10 Pi 58' 32.04" UBha 3 Pi LiDeha Sphuta 18 Cp 48' 13.83"

Srav 3 Cp GeMrityu Sphuta 5 Ar 44' 22.26" Aswi 2 Ar

TaSookshma TriSphuta 5 Cp 31' 08.13" USha 3 Cp AqTriSphuta

28 Vi 55' 25.85" Chit 2 Vi ViChatusSphuta 0 Cn 44' 26.64"

Puna 4 Cn CnPanchaSphuta 12 Pi 08' 19.46" UBha 3 Pi

LiV2 26 Aq 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Aq ViV3

26 Ta 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Ta LiV4 26 Ge 04' 58.94"

Aswi 1 Ge CpV5 26 Vi 04' 58.94" Aswi 1

Vi AqV6 26 Li 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Li TaV7

26 Cp 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Cp GeV8 26 Aq 04' 58.94"

Aswi 1 Aq ViV9 26 Ta 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Ta

LiV10 26 Ge 04' 58.94" Aswi 1

Ge CpV11 26 Vi 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Vi AqV12

26 Li 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Li TaKunda 12 Le 43' 33.97"

Magh 4 Le Cn Rasi

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\ / \ ||

/ \ / Md Gk \ || / Ve \ / Su

\ || / \ / Me GL \

|+--------------+Navamsa -Navamsa

D-9+--------------+|

\ / \ / || \ GL / \

Md / || \ / \ / || \

/ Me \ / || \

/ \ / ||JuR Ra x HL As x

|| / \ / \ || / \ Sa

/ \ || /

\ / \ || / \ 2 / \

|| / \ / \ || x

AL ||

\ / \ / || \ / \

/ || \ / \ / || \

/ \ /

|| \ / \ / Gk ||Ma x Ve

x Ke Su || / \ / \ || /

\ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / Mo \ /

\ || / \ / \

|+--------------+Lakshmi D-20Vimsamsa

D-20+--------------+| \ / \

/ || \ Me / \ Ma / || \

/ \ / || \ / \ /

|| \ / \ / ||Ra Ke x As

x Md || / \ / \ || /

\ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / Gk \ 10 /

\ || / \ / \ || GL

x Ve ||

\ / \ / || \ / \

/ || \ / \ / || \

/ \ /

||JuR \ / \ / ||Su Mo x

x HL Sa ||AL / \ / \ || /

\ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / \ /

\ || / \ / \

|+--------------+Vimsottari Dasa (started from

Moon):Mars Mars 1950-05-04 Rah 1950-10-04 Jup 1951-10-22 Sat

1952-09-27 Merc 1953-11-06 Ket 1954-11-03

Ven 1955-03-29 Sun 1956-05-29 Moon 1956-10-07 Rah Rah 1957-05-04 Jup

1960-01-16 Sat 1962-06-11 Merc 1965-04-16 Ket 1967-11-07 Ven

1968-11-24 Sun 1971-11-24 Moon 1972-10-19 Mars 1974-04-16 Jup Jup

1975-05-05 Sat 1977-06-23 Merc 1980-01-05 Ket 1982-04-10 Ven

1983-03-17 Sun 1985-11-18 Moon 1986-09-07 Mars 1988-01-05 Rah

1988-12-12 Sat Sat 1991-05-05 Merc 1994-05-08 Ket 1997-01-16 Ven

1998-02-24 Sun 2001-04-25 Moon 2002-04-07 Mars 2003-11-10 Rah

2004-12-18 Jup 2007-10-26 Merc Merc 2010-05-05 Ket 2012-10-04 Ven

2013-10-01

Sun 2016-07-31 Moon 2017-06-05 Mars 2018-11-07 Rah 2019-11-04

Jup 2022-05-20 Sat 2024-08-28 Ket Ket 2027-05-05 Ven 2027-10-05 Sun

2028-12-03 Moon 2029-04-07 Mars 2029-11-09 Rah 2030-04-04 Jup

2031-04-23 Sat 2032-03-29 Merc 2033-05-08 Ven Ven 2034-05-05 Sun

2037-09-07 Moon 2038-09-07 Mars 2040-05-04 Rah 2041-07-06 Jup

2044-07-06 Sat 2047-03-05 Merc 2050-05-05 Ket 2053-03-05 Sun Sun

2054-05-05 Moon 2054-08-26 Mars 2055-02-21 Rah 2055-07-01 Jup

2056-05-23 Sat 2057-03-11 Merc 2058-02-21 Ket 2058-12-30 Ven

2059-05-05

Moon Moon 2060-05-04 Mars 2061-03-05 Rah 2060-10-07 Jup 2063-04-05

Sat 2064-08-07 Merc 2066-03-05 Ket 2067-08-07 Ven 2068-03-05 Sun

2069-11-07 Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):Maha

Dasas:Ge: 1955-01-15 (5:15:00 pm) - 1962-01-15 (12:14:55 pm)Li: 1962-01-15

(12:14:55 pm) - 1963-01-15 (6:31:30 pm)Aq: 1963-01-15 (6:31:30 pm) - 1968-01-16

(1:11:27 am)Pi: 1968-01-16 (1:11:27 am) - 1977-01-15 (8:39:42 am)Cn: 1977-01-15

(8:39:42 am) - 1986-01-15 (3:59:45 pm)Sc: 1986-01-15 (3:59:45 pm) - 1990-01-15

(4:42:01 pm)Sg: 1990-01-15 (4:42:01 pm) - 1998-01-15 (5:57:32 pm)Ar: 1998-01-15

(5:57:32 pm) - 2009-01-15 (1:37:23 pm)Le: 2009-01-15 (1:37:23 pm) - 2016-01-16

(8:35:52 am)Vi: 2016-01-16 (8:35:52 am) - 2024-01-16 (9:52:47 am)Cp: 2024-01-16

(9:52:47 am) - 2028-01-16 (10:34:18

am)Ta: 2028-01-16 (10:34:18 am) - 2034-01-15 (11:35:19 pm)Ge: 2034-01-15

(11:35:19 pm) - 2039-01-16 (6:21:12 am)Li: 2039-01-16 (6:21:12 am) - 2050-01-16

(2:01:36 am)Aq: 2050-01-16 (2:01:36 am) - 2057-01-15 (9:02:05 pm)Pi: 2057-01-15

(9:02:05 pm) - 2060-01-16 (3:30:40 pm)Cn: 2060-01-16 (3:30:40 pm) - 2063-01-16

(10:02:30 am)Sc: 2063-01-16 (10:02:30 am) - 2071-01-16 (11:18:16 am)Sg:

2071-01-16 (11:18:16 am) - 2075-01-16 (11:47:33 am)Ar: 2075-01-16 (11:47:33 am)

- 2076-01-16 (5:54:50 pm)Le: 2076-01-16 (5:54:50 pm) - 2081-01-16 (12:46:26

am)Vi: 2081-01-16 (12:46:26 am) - 2085-01-16 (1:23:01 am)Cp: 2085-01-16

(1:23:01 am) - 2093-01-16 (2:38:50 am)Ta: 2093-01-16 (2:38:50 am) - 2099-01-16

(3:32:39 pm)Narayana Dasa of D-20 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):Maha

Dasas:Pi: 1955-01-15 (5:15:00 pm) - 1965-01-15 (6:42:04 am)Sc: 1965-01-15

(6:42:04 am) - 1969-01-15 (7:22:09 am)Cn: 1969-01-15 (7:22:09 am) -

1972-01-16 (1:48:03 am)Ge: 1972-01-16 (1:48:03 am) - 1980-01-16 (3:06:54 am)Aq:

1980-01-16 (3:06:54 am) - 1991-01-15 (10:51:10 pm)Li: 1991-01-15 (10:51:10 pm)

- 2003-01-16 (12:37:50 am)Vi: 2003-01-16 (12:37:50 am) - 2010-01-15 (7:47:11

pm)Ta: 2010-01-15 (7:47:11 pm) - 2015-01-16 (2:37:23 am)Cp: 2015-01-16 (2:37:23

am) - 2019-01-16 (3:01:31 am)Sg: 2019-01-16 (3:01:31 am) - 2024-01-16 (9:52:47

am)Le: 2024-01-16 (9:52:47 am) - 2027-01-16 (4:20:12 am)Ar: 2027-01-16 (4:20:12

am) - 2035-01-16 (5:37:19 am)Pi: 2035-01-16 (5:37:19 am) - 2037-01-15 (5:54:41

pm)Sc: 2037-01-15 (5:54:41 pm) - 2045-01-15 (7:09:52 pm)Cn: 2045-01-15 (7:09:52

pm) - 2054-01-16 (2:28:23 am)Ge: 2054-01-16 (2:28:23 am) - 2058-01-16 (3:18:45

am)Aq: 2058-01-16 (3:18:45 am) - 2059-01-16 (9:20:38 am)Li: 2059-01-16 (9:20:38

am) - 2059-01-16 (9:20:38 am)Vi: 2059-01-16 (9:20:38 am) - 2064-01-16 (4:04:59

pm)Ta: 2064-01-16 (4:04:59 pm) - 2071-01-16 (11:18:16

am)Cp: 2071-01-16 (11:18:16 am) - 2079-01-16 (12:25:08 pm)Sg: 2079-01-16

(12:25:08 pm) - 2086-01-16 (7:32:36 am)Le: 2086-01-16 (7:32:36 am) - 2095-01-16

(2:58:40 pm)Ar: 2095-01-16 (2:58:40 pm) - 2099-01-16 (3:32:39 pm)--- In

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep>

wrote:> Dear shri Sabri> > It was nice to read your post and valuable

thoughts.> Satisfaction can result because of lack of knowledge as well as

true> knowledge.> True and realized soulss have no doubts and are

satisfied.False > bleiefs and our own convictions can also make us satisfied.>

But non satisfaction and the desire for knowing the Truth,marks the> beginning

of our journey.Obsession and deep attachment towards our> goal,results.> >

Undersatnding Rahu and Ketu as you have mentioned may help us here.> > Rahu and

Ketu are the forces which

encompass the essence of all the> energy forms and tattwas.They bind the forces

together.When in true> form, they represent the confluence of all energies.> >

Rahu is like the force which can absorb all the ''colours''of > light.We know

when an object absorbs all and liberates none the > result is black.Sage said

Rahu will give the results of the sign> (lord) it occuppies and the planets it

associate.Thus when the 8th > lord is associating, Rahu absorbs all that is

related to the 8th > bhava, as advised by sage.This results in a deep obsession

towards > 8th house matters.Thus your points are really valauble.Now if other >

planets too influence Rahu,the results will be mixed.> > ketu is the reverse

force.When Rahu is like a magnet which attracts > iron filings,ketu is like a

fan which can blow finer particles.Ketu > is thus the liberating force,which

attracts none.When an object

> absorbs none and liberates all,the result is white.> > 12th house is the house

of energy spent.When Ketu is in the 12th,all > the energy gets

liberated,resulting in vimochana from this samsara or> liberation from the

bondage of births and rebirths.> > When all that is absorbed is being

liberated,the result is> white.Vimshamsha is for worship and spiritual

inclinations.Sidhamsha > is for the sidhis that we have.Spirituality is the

direction towards > spirit or the soul.As Rahu and Ketu will be always under

the > influence of a single planet (falling in amsha lorded by the same >

planet) for matters of Vimshamsha,this amsha may be holding a vital > key as

Narasimha ji has mentioned.Conisidering Bhavas in Rashi > chakra and seeing

their relationship in vimshamsha may take us > closer than considering bhavas

in amshas, is my undersatnding as > advised by

sage.> > Thus looking at Rahu in a chart will reveal our obsessions while Ketu>

reveals what we want to liberate.The obsession results in a > strain.When

Vairagya is also present the effect may be full.Release > of sexual energy can

be with or without our control.when it is > within our control,the duration of

pleasure is prolonged and fully > felt.Breath control is the key.Similarly

release of any form of > energy is a pleasure.True energy when liberated with

our > knowledge,results in the ultimate satisfaction.This may be the >

awakening.when we are aware of the awakening,we may feel the passage > of

energy through all the channels or one may enjoy and feel all the > constiuents

of light. > > These are just my humble thoughts,which got triggered after

reading > valuable thoughts from you and other learned members of this group.>

> Regds>

Pradeep> > > Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info:

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Dear Lakshmi, Namaste,

 

Only a Spiritual Master or a Saintly Person can properly tell a

person for sure whether he or she is having Kundalini experience or

not, since coming to a conclusion as such and telling it to the

person may be misleading in different ways to the spiritual aspirant

(or someone who will be spiritually inclined in some later stage of

his or her life), making a mistake here on the part of somebody who

is not a Spiritual Master or Saint would bring in some not so good

karma, because of the possibility of misleading the person.

Furthermore a Master has gone through the full process Himself, and

will comment on the subject taking into account your personal

situation and evolution, e.g. will safeguard you meanwhile.

 

The very select learned Jyotish Gurus on this list, whom I respect

deeply, may tell, what the situation is, when such is predicted

through the Jyotish chart.

 

There is a Saintly Person who is not a Spiritual Master Himself,

living in Delhi, whom I personally have seen to give an indication

on this matter, but I do not know, if you go up to Him, and ask,

whether he will reply or not. I do not want to mention about him

publicly on this forum.

 

There is much mystery and figurative language shrouding the concept

of Kundalini, and I wanted to bring another more practical approach

and clarification, but when it comes to telling whether the

experience you have kindly described is relating to Kundalini or

not, I may have a good guess, but I am not authorized to tell it.

 

Regarding your second question, again in general terms, there should

be correlation with the ability of healing by laying hands, and the

kundalini concept, since both are very much connected although not

exactly the same. A healer of this type to the best of my knowledge

heals by the help of energy flow in his own body, and also by his

attention that he puts on a person. I have met many healers myself,

some were very powerful, that you can not mistake the energy moving

in his body, it is said that some healers are so powerful that the

energy flow around them is even seen by the onlooker in case the

healer chooses that this is seen. Also I have seen others who claim

to be healers but can not achieve much. So I would say definitely

the two phenomena are related, but a good healer to my understanding

does not indicate a person who has open Kundalini, and a spiritually

advanced person who has had his Kundalini cleared will most probably

have the power to heal at least to a certain extent but may not be

using it. Healing through the hands, seems to be involving some

energy flow in the body related or connected to the Kundalini but

not exactly the same. For one thing, in this case the energy moves

through the hands. The human physiology and capabilities of it, is

complicated beyond our understanding. There may be a powerful healer

who has nothing to do with Kundalini, e.g. it may be that only that

faculty of healing with the hands may be developed for him, nothing

else. It is well known that faculties of man develop subject to

certain constraints, as use is made of that faculty constantly and

repeatedly.

 

Best wishes, Sabri.

 

vedic astrology, "lakshmikary"

<lakshmikary> wrote:

> Hare Krishna

> Dear Pradeep and Sabri,

> I've never quite understood about Kundalini experience and Im

trying

> to learn more.Is it possible to have Kundalini experience without

> really knowing it at all? I've always had too much energy

internal,

> that prevents me from sleeping properly and also it has been hard

on

> my physical body as I exert my effort than my body has.

> 2)Can someone use their Kundalini energy to heal people physically

> without knowing its their kundalini energy?Can it be used in such

a

> way? There are people who can heal ohters by a laying on of hands

and

> such things.

>

> Looking at my chart it seems there should be the elements of some

> possibilites for Kundalini experiences , but Im not sure if it is

> sufficient. If you have time I'd appreciate your view on my charts.

> My charts are below, rasi, Navamsa, and D-20.

> Possibilites for such

> Rasi Gemini rising-Ketu in lagna, LL in 8th house,aspected by

Venus

> 12th lord. Venus,12th lord aspects 12th house along

> with,Sun,Merc.LL,ex8/9th lord Sat,Moon,and exjup. so taurus 12th

> house seems strong.

> A8 is aires, only aspected by Rahu from sag, and Venus 12th lord.

> In navamsa, taurus lagna is equally strong,with AK sat, merc(rasi

LL)

> in it.ANd aspected by Venus(natal 12th

lord),Rahu/Jupiter,Ketu/Sun,

> and Moon.

> Aires(which is A8 in rasi)is the 12th house in navamsa.

>

> IN D-20,

> lagna is capricorn, which is natal Rasi 8th house and dispositor

of

> LL.Saturn,(rasi 8th lord), and AK is in 9th house.

> Taurus(12th house in Rasi) is in the D-20,5th house and aspects

lagna

> and in 5th house taurus is Moon,jupiter and Sun, aspected(rashi

> drishti)by Venus in libra, and Merc from aquarious.

> Sat as Natal 8th lord is aspected by nodes from pisces,and Mars,etc

>

> Aires,significant as the Rasi A8, doesnt seem to have much to do

here.

> 4th from my AK in D-20, is Mars in sag.

> In all 3 charts, mars(lord of A8) in in the dual signs,

>

> Although ,there are alot of connections amoungst planets,

> is there sufficent link to Rahu/ketu to the other indications.

> So im curious if such placements can/will/already have given any

> Kundalini experience?

> Thank-you,best wishes,

> Lakshmi

> LakshmiKary

>

> Natal Chart

>

> January 15, 1955

> Time: 5:15:00 pm

> Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT)

> Place: 96 W 22' 11", 30 N 40' 27"

> Texas, USA

> Altitude: 0.00 meters

>

> Lunar Yr-Mo: Jaya - Pushya

> Tithi: Krishna Ashtami (Ra) (46.14% left)

> Vedic Weekday: Saturday (Sa)

> Nakshatra: Chitra (Ma) (32.90% left)

> Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (94.27% left)

> Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (92.27% left)

> Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi)

> Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Ta)

> Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Venus)

>

> Sunrise: 7:24:53 am

> Sunset: 5:45:57 pm

> Janma Ghatis: 24.5879

>

> Ayanamsa: 23-14-01.97

> Sidereal Time: 0:28:02

>

> Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

>

> Lagna 26 Ge 04' 58.94" Puna 2 Ge Ta

> Sun - GK 1 Cp 49' 00.79" USha 2 Cp Cp

> Moon - PK 2 Li 16' 49.56" Chit 3 Li Li

> Mars - PiK 7 Pi 19' 51.21" UBha 2 Pi Vi

> Mercury - MK 15 Cp 04' 29.77" Srav 2 Cp Ta

> Jupiter ® - DK 1 Cn 39' 07.44" Puna 4 Cn Cn

> Venus - BK 15 Sc 21' 15.37" Anu 4 Sc Sc

> Saturn - AK 26 Li 18' 49.20" Visa 2 Li Ta

> Rahu - AmK 11 Sg 23' 52.82" Mool 4 Sg Cn

> Ketu 11 Ge 23' 52.82" Ardr 2 Ge Cp

> Maandi 11 Cp 22' 01.10" Srav 1 Cp Ar

> Gulika 0 Cp 33' 37.35" USha 2 Cp Cp

> Uranus ® 2 Cn 27' 06.95" Puna 4 Cn Cn

> Neptune 4 Li 57' 11.66" Chit 4 Li Sc

> Pluto ® 3 Le 01' 59.22" Magh 1 Le Ar

> Bhava Lagna 28 Ta 55' 36.43" Mrig 2 Ta Vi

> Hora Lagna 26 Li 27' 14.64" Visa 2 Li Ta

> Ghati Lagna 19 Cp 02' 09.26" Srav 3 Cp Ge

> Vighati Lagna 11 Pi 56' 42.35" UBha 3 Pi Li

> Varnada Lagna 26 Cp 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Cp Ge

> Sree Lagna 27 Aq 39' 17.04" PBha 3 Aq Ge

> Pranapada Lagna 12 Pi 21' 44.91" UBha 3 Pi Li

> Indu Lagna 2 Ge 16' 49.56" Mrig 3 Ge Li

> Dhooma 15 Ta 09' 00.79" Rohi 2 Ta Ta

> Vyatipata 14 Aq 50' 59.21" Sata 3 Aq Aq

> Parivesha 14 Le 50' 59.21" PPha 1 Le Le

> Indra Chapa 15 Sc 09' 00.79" Anu 4 Sc Sc

> Upaketu 1 Sg 49' 00.79" Mool 1 Sg Ar

> Kaala 3 Pi 25' 59.16" UBha 1 Pi Le

> Mrityu 26 Ar 48' 44.24" Krit 1 Ar Sg

> Artha Prahara 18 Ta 24' 10.43" Rohi 3 Ta Ge

> Yama Ghantaka 7 Ge 12' 15.72" Ardr 1 Ge Sg

> Prana Sphuta 10 Pi 58' 32.04" UBha 3 Pi Li

> Deha Sphuta 18 Cp 48' 13.83" Srav 3 Cp Ge

> Mrityu Sphuta 5 Ar 44' 22.26" Aswi 2 Ar Ta

> Sookshma TriSphuta 5 Cp 31' 08.13" USha 3 Cp Aq

> TriSphuta 28 Vi 55' 25.85" Chit 2 Vi Vi

> ChatusSphuta 0 Cn 44' 26.64" Puna 4 Cn Cn

> PanchaSphuta 12 Pi 08' 19.46" UBha 3 Pi Li

> V2 26 Aq 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Aq Vi

> V3 26 Ta 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Ta Li

> V4 26 Ge 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Ge Cp

> V5 26 Vi 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Vi Aq

> V6 26 Li 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Li Ta

> V7 26 Cp 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Cp Ge

> V8 26 Aq 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Aq Vi

> V9 26 Ta 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Ta Li

> V10 26 Ge 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Ge Cp

> V11 26 Vi 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Vi Aq

> V12 26 Li 04' 58.94" Aswi 1 Li Ta

> Kunda 12 Le 43' 33.97" Magh 4 Le Cn

>

> Rasi

> +--------------+

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ JuR / \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / Ke \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> |AL x As x |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ 3 / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | x Ma |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> |HL \ / \ / |

> |Mo Sa x Ra x |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ / Md Gk \ |

> | / Ve \ / Su \ |

> | / \ / Me GL \ |

> +--------------+

> Navamsa -

> Navamsa D-9

> +--------------+

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ GL / \ Md / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / Me \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> |JuR Ra x HL As x |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ Sa / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ 2 / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | x AL |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / \ / Gk |

> |Ma x Ve x Ke Su |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Mo \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> +--------------+

>

> Lakshmi D-20

> Vimsamsa D-20

> +--------------+

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ Me / \ Ma / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> |Ra Ke x As x Md |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Gk \ 10 / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | GL x Ve |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / \ / |

> |JuR \ / \ / |

> |Su Mo x x HL Sa |

> |AL / \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> +--------------+

>

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

>

> Mars Mars 1950-05-04 Rah 1950-10-04 Jup 1951-10-22

> Sat 1952-09-27 Merc 1953-11-06 Ket 1954-11-03

> Ven 1955-03-29 Sun 1956-05-29 Moon 1956-10-07

> Rah Rah 1957-05-04 Jup 1960-01-16 Sat 1962-06-11

> Merc 1965-04-16 Ket 1967-11-07 Ven 1968-11-24

> Sun 1971-11-24 Moon 1972-10-19 Mars 1974-04-16

> Jup Jup 1975-05-05 Sat 1977-06-23 Merc 1980-01-05

> Ket 1982-04-10 Ven 1983-03-17 Sun 1985-11-18

> Moon 1986-09-07 Mars 1988-01-05 Rah 1988-12-12

> Sat Sat 1991-05-05 Merc 1994-05-08 Ket 1997-01-16

> Ven 1998-02-24 Sun 2001-04-25 Moon 2002-04-07

> Mars 2003-11-10 Rah 2004-12-18 Jup 2007-10-26

> Merc Merc 2010-05-05 Ket 2012-10-04 Ven 2013-10-01

> Sun 2016-07-31 Moon 2017-06-05 Mars 2018-11-07

> Rah 2019-11-04 Jup 2022-05-20 Sat 2024-08-28

> Ket Ket 2027-05-05 Ven 2027-10-05 Sun 2028-12-03

> Moon 2029-04-07 Mars 2029-11-09 Rah 2030-04-04

> Jup 2031-04-23 Sat 2032-03-29 Merc 2033-05-08

> Ven Ven 2034-05-05 Sun 2037-09-07 Moon 2038-09-07

> Mars 2040-05-04 Rah 2041-07-06 Jup 2044-07-06

> Sat 2047-03-05 Merc 2050-05-05 Ket 2053-03-05

> Sun Sun 2054-05-05 Moon 2054-08-26 Mars 2055-02-21

> Rah 2055-07-01 Jup 2056-05-23 Sat 2057-03-11

> Merc 2058-02-21 Ket 2058-12-30 Ven 2059-05-05

> Moon Moon 2060-05-04 Mars 2061-03-05 Rah 2060-10-07

> Jup 2063-04-05 Sat 2064-08-07 Merc 2066-03-05

> Ket 2067-08-07 Ven 2068-03-05 Sun 2069-11-07

>

> Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

>

> Maha Dasas:

>

> Ge: 1955-01-15 (5:15:00 pm) - 1962-01-15 (12:14:55 pm)

> Li: 1962-01-15 (12:14:55 pm) - 1963-01-15 (6:31:30 pm)

> Aq: 1963-01-15 (6:31:30 pm) - 1968-01-16 (1:11:27 am)

> Pi: 1968-01-16 (1:11:27 am) - 1977-01-15 (8:39:42 am)

> Cn: 1977-01-15 (8:39:42 am) - 1986-01-15 (3:59:45 pm)

> Sc: 1986-01-15 (3:59:45 pm) - 1990-01-15 (4:42:01 pm)

> Sg: 1990-01-15 (4:42:01 pm) - 1998-01-15 (5:57:32 pm)

> Ar: 1998-01-15 (5:57:32 pm) - 2009-01-15 (1:37:23 pm)

> Le: 2009-01-15 (1:37:23 pm) - 2016-01-16 (8:35:52 am)

> Vi: 2016-01-16 (8:35:52 am) - 2024-01-16 (9:52:47 am)

> Cp: 2024-01-16 (9:52:47 am) - 2028-01-16 (10:34:18 am)

> Ta: 2028-01-16 (10:34:18 am) - 2034-01-15 (11:35:19 pm)

> Ge: 2034-01-15 (11:35:19 pm) - 2039-01-16 (6:21:12 am)

> Li: 2039-01-16 (6:21:12 am) - 2050-01-16 (2:01:36 am)

> Aq: 2050-01-16 (2:01:36 am) - 2057-01-15 (9:02:05 pm)

> Pi: 2057-01-15 (9:02:05 pm) - 2060-01-16 (3:30:40 pm)

> Cn: 2060-01-16 (3:30:40 pm) - 2063-01-16 (10:02:30 am)

> Sc: 2063-01-16 (10:02:30 am) - 2071-01-16 (11:18:16 am)

> Sg: 2071-01-16 (11:18:16 am) - 2075-01-16 (11:47:33 am)

> Ar: 2075-01-16 (11:47:33 am) - 2076-01-16 (5:54:50 pm)

> Le: 2076-01-16 (5:54:50 pm) - 2081-01-16 (12:46:26 am)

> Vi: 2081-01-16 (12:46:26 am) - 2085-01-16 (1:23:01 am)

> Cp: 2085-01-16 (1:23:01 am) - 2093-01-16 (2:38:50 am)

> Ta: 2093-01-16 (2:38:50 am) - 2099-01-16 (3:32:39 pm)

> Narayana Dasa of D-20 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

>

> Maha Dasas:

>

> Pi: 1955-01-15 (5:15:00 pm) - 1965-01-15 (6:42:04 am)

> Sc: 1965-01-15 (6:42:04 am) - 1969-01-15 (7:22:09 am)

> Cn: 1969-01-15 (7:22:09 am) - 1972-01-16 (1:48:03 am)

> Ge: 1972-01-16 (1:48:03 am) - 1980-01-16 (3:06:54 am)

> Aq: 1980-01-16 (3:06:54 am) - 1991-01-15 (10:51:10 pm)

> Li: 1991-01-15 (10:51:10 pm) - 2003-01-16 (12:37:50 am)

> Vi: 2003-01-16 (12:37:50 am) - 2010-01-15 (7:47:11 pm)

> Ta: 2010-01-15 (7:47:11 pm) - 2015-01-16 (2:37:23 am)

> Cp: 2015-01-16 (2:37:23 am) - 2019-01-16 (3:01:31 am)

> Sg: 2019-01-16 (3:01:31 am) - 2024-01-16 (9:52:47 am)

> Le: 2024-01-16 (9:52:47 am) - 2027-01-16 (4:20:12 am)

> Ar: 2027-01-16 (4:20:12 am) - 2035-01-16 (5:37:19 am)

> Pi: 2035-01-16 (5:37:19 am) - 2037-01-15 (5:54:41 pm)

> Sc: 2037-01-15 (5:54:41 pm) - 2045-01-15 (7:09:52 pm)

> Cn: 2045-01-15 (7:09:52 pm) - 2054-01-16 (2:28:23 am)

> Ge: 2054-01-16 (2:28:23 am) - 2058-01-16 (3:18:45 am)

> Aq: 2058-01-16 (3:18:45 am) - 2059-01-16 (9:20:38 am)

> Li: 2059-01-16 (9:20:38 am) - 2059-01-16 (9:20:38 am)

> Vi: 2059-01-16 (9:20:38 am) - 2064-01-16 (4:04:59 pm)

> Ta: 2064-01-16 (4:04:59 pm) - 2071-01-16 (11:18:16 am)

> Cp: 2071-01-16 (11:18:16 am) - 2079-01-16 (12:25:08 pm)

> Sg: 2079-01-16 (12:25:08 pm) - 2086-01-16 (7:32:36 am)

> Le: 2086-01-16 (7:32:36 am) - 2095-01-16 (2:58:40 pm)

> Ar: 2095-01-16 (2:58:40 pm) - 2099-01-16 (3:32:39 pm)

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > Dear shri Sabri

> >

> > It was nice to read your post and valuable thoughts.

> > Satisfaction can result because of lack of knowledge as well as

true

> > knowledge.

> > True and realized soulss have no doubts and are satisfied.False

> > bleiefs and our own convictions can also make us satisfied.

> > But non satisfaction and the desire for knowing the Truth,marks

the

> > beginning of our journey.Obsession and deep attachment towards

our

> > goal,results.

> >

> > Undersatnding Rahu and Ketu as you have mentioned may help us

here.

> >

> > Rahu and Ketu are the forces which encompass the essence of all

the

> > energy forms and tattwas.They bind the forces together.When in

true

> > form, they represent the confluence of all energies.

> >

> > Rahu is like the force which can absorb all the ''colours''of

> > light.We know when an object absorbs all and liberates none the

> > result is black.Sage said Rahu will give the results of the sign

> > (lord) it occuppies and the planets it associate.Thus when the

8th

> > lord is associating, Rahu absorbs all that is related to the 8th

> > bhava, as advised by sage.This results in a deep obsession

towards

> > 8th house matters.Thus your points are really valauble.Now if

other

> > planets too influence Rahu,the results will be mixed.

> >

> > ketu is the reverse force.When Rahu is like a magnet which

attracts

> > iron filings,ketu is like a fan which can blow finer

particles.Ketu

> > is thus the liberating force,which attracts none.When an object

> > absorbs none and liberates all,the result is white.

> >

> > 12th house is the house of energy spent.When Ketu is in the

> 12th,all

> > the energy gets liberated,resulting in vimochana from this

samsara

> or

> > liberation from the bondage of births and rebirths.

> >

> > When all that is absorbed is being liberated,the result is

> > white.Vimshamsha is for worship and spiritual

> inclinations.Sidhamsha

> > is for the sidhis that we have.Spirituality is the direction

> towards

> > spirit or the soul.As Rahu and Ketu will be always under the

> > influence of a single planet (falling in amsha lorded by the

same

> > planet) for matters of Vimshamsha,this amsha may be holding a

vital

> > key as Narasimha ji has mentioned.Conisidering Bhavas in Rashi

> > chakra and seeing their relationship in vimshamsha may take us

> > closer than considering bhavas in amshas, is my undersatnding as

> > advised by sage.

> >

> > Thus looking at Rahu in a chart will reveal our obsessions while

> Ketu

> > reveals what we want to liberate.The obsession results in a

> > strain.When Vairagya is also present the effect may be

full.Release

> > of sexual energy can be with or without our control.when it is

> > within our control,the duration of pleasure is prolonged and

fully

> > felt.Breath control is the key.Similarly release of any form of

> > energy is a pleasure.True energy when liberated with our

> > knowledge,results in the ultimate satisfaction.This may be the

> > awakening.when we are aware of the awakening,we may feel the

> passage

> > of energy through all the channels or one may enjoy and feel all

> the

> > constiuents of light.

> >

> > These are just my humble thoughts,which got triggered after

reading

> > valuable thoughts from you and other learned members of this

group.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Lakshmi,

 

> Is it possible to have Kundalini experience without > really knowing it at all?

 

Normally, when Kundalini rises for the first time, you will know. When the

latent energy wakes up, it is like a bolt of thunder from within. However, the

intensity can vary based on whether Kundalini just woke up or moved too and how

far it moved. It depends on how clean various chakras are and what kind of

obstructions are present. Also, perhaps things can be different in a devotee of

a saattwik deity.

 

> 2)Can someone use their Kundalini energy to heal people physically > without

knowing its their kundalini energy?Can it be used in such a > way? There are

people who can heal ohters by a laying on of hands and > such things.

 

Yes. Kundalini rise can give some special abilities to the person based on the

karma and inclinations. Some people even want certain specific abilities and do

specific sadhana. However, I strongly advise against falling in the trap and

worrying too much about such things. If you are a follower of bhakti marga,

submit yourself to your ishta devata and let Him/Her take control. If He/She

thinks that you have a role to play in this world, you will be given any

abilities required. Period. Having any kind of expectations is a-saattwik and

adds to your karma.

 

In your vimsamsa, 12th lord Jupiter and 8th lord Sun are together in 5th house

Taurus. The 5th house shows bhakti marga. You are destined to follow the path

of devotion. Any spiritual experiences that come will come through bhakti. So

do not worry about Kundalini, do not use any rajasik yoga approaches and simply

surrender to the Lord. Though exalted Moon (Krishna) dominates the 5th in

vimsamsa, suggesting affinity to Krishna, the 12th lord from AK in navamsa is

Mars. So I suggest worshipping Subrahmanya ir Hanuman or Nrisin(g)ha. They can

take you towards moksha.

 

In your D-20, mrityu pada (A8) is in Sc. Its co-lord Mars is in Sg, the 12th

house of moksha. Sg has argala and rasi aspect from Ketu (who likes Sg as it is

his exaltation sign). Moreover, from Mars who is in Sg, the key planets in the

5th house are in bodhaka sthana! Thus, I expect vimsamsa Narayana dasa of Sg

during 2019-2024 to be crucial. Interestingly, you run Gemini's Drigdasa during

2018-2025. Gemini contains Ketu in rasi chart and its drigdasa is likely to give

you a lot of spiritual events.

 

So I expect you to have excellent spiritual experiences during 2019-2024. But do

stick to bhakti marga and submit to the Lord.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

PS: I left the lists, but came back to them due to the discussions on the topic

of Kundalini, which has been at my heart these days. I will leave the lists

again and this time try not to come back until the Tithi Pravesha book is

finished.

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> Hare Krishna> Dear Pradeep and Sabri,> I've never quite understood about

Kundalini experience and Im trying > to learn more.Is it possible to have

Kundalini experience without > really knowing it at all? I've always had too

much energy internal, > that prevents me from sleeping properly and also it has

been hard on > my physical body as I exert my effort than my body has.> 2)Can

someone use their Kundalini energy to heal people physically > without knowing

its their kundalini energy?Can it be used in such a > way? There are people who

can heal ohters by a laying on of hands and > such things.> > Looking at my

chart it seems there should be the elements of some > possibilites for

Kundalini experiences , but Im not sure if it is > sufficient. If you have time

I'd appreciate your view on my charts.> My charts are below, rasi, Navamsa, and

D-20.> Possibilites for such> Rasi Gemini rising-Ketu in lagna, LL in 8th

house,aspected by Venus > 12th lord. Venus,12th lord aspects 12th house along >

with,Sun,Merc.LL,ex8/9th lord Sat,Moon,and exjup. so taurus 12th > house seems

strong.> A8 is aires, only aspected by Rahu from sag, and Venus 12th lord.> In

navamsa, taurus lagna is equally strong,with AK sat, merc(rasi LL)> in it.ANd

aspected by Venus(natal 12th lord),Rahu/Jupiter,Ketu/Sun, > and Moon.>

Aires(which is A8 in rasi)is the 12th house in navamsa.> > IN D-20,> lagna is

capricorn, which is natal Rasi 8th house and dispositor of > LL.Saturn,(rasi

8th lord), and AK is in 9th house.> Taurus(12th house in Rasi) is in the

D-20,5th house and aspects lagna> and in 5th house taurus is Moon,jupiter and

Sun, aspected(rashi > drishti)by Venus in libra, and Merc from aquarious.> Sat

as Natal 8th lord is aspected by nodes from pisces,and Mars,etc> >

Aires,significant as the Rasi A8, doesnt seem to have much to do here.> 4th

from my AK in D-20, is Mars in sag.> In all 3 charts, mars(lord of A8) in in

the dual signs,> > Although ,there are alot of connections amoungst planets,>

is there sufficent link to Rahu/ketu to the other indications.> So im curious

if such placements can/will/already have given any > Kundalini experience?>

Thank-you,best wishes,> Lakshmi> LakshmiKary> > Natal Chart> >

January 15, 1955> Time: 5:15:00 pm> Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of

GMT)> Place: 96 W 22' 11", 30 N 40' 27"> Texas, USA>

Altitude: 0.00 meters

[Guest guest]

Hare Krishna

Dear Narasimha,

Pranams

Thank-you for taking the time to discuss this topic.

Last year at the west coast conference Robert gave a lecture on

Mystics saints , and he gave some similiar indications for the

illustrated charts as I remember.That is why I was curious if in some

cases where a person is a healer or mystic and seems to heal people

with some sort of shakti, if it can be related to Kundalini energy.

One there confusion: I was reading somewhere that to practise this

(kundalini) you need to be celebate.? But that doestn seem to be the

case although Ive heard some mixed info over the years.

Thank-you for explaining so clearly as I was getting very confused.

Im looking forward to your next book as you have a very good way of

presenting material in a clear, thorough manner.

 

In my case I was wondering if i am having some sort of subtle energy

experience or whether it is just symptoms of my spine getting further

compressed.(from back injuries) as I get bolts of electricity,

or it feels like parts of my body get very,very hot , especially

coming out of the bottom of my feet. Or other times it feels like

very warm water is pouring down the inside of my spine all the way to

my feet(wrong direction I guess!)

 

My doctor has felt a source of heat on both my forearms and couldnt

explain the obvious heat coming from those 2x2 inch areas.Everytime I

see her she feels it and shakes her headas she doesnt understand how

it is possible.

 

At one point when i had had a miscarriage and was afraid Id have to

have another , i saw a man psychic who laid his hands on me and I

could clearly feel little pelts of electrical energy coming off his

hands.

Several psychics have said my utmost chakra(top of head) was

permanently open, and thus had an abnormal conduction of energy

within me at times.

So, all this has made me thinking and wondering about kundalini,and

if it was part of these experiences Ive had.

thank-you for teaching me.

All the best,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

> Dear Lakshmi,

>

> > Is it possible to have Kundalini experience without

> > really knowing it at all?

>

> Normally, when Kundalini rises for the first time, you will know.

When the latent energy wakes up, it is like a bolt of thunder from

within. However, the intensity can vary based on whether Kundalini

just woke up or moved too and how far it moved. It depends on how

clean various chakras are and what kind of obstructions are present.

Also, perhaps things can be different in a devotee of a saattwik

deity.

>

> > 2)Can someone use their Kundalini energy to heal people

physically

> > without knowing its their kundalini energy?Can it be used in such

a

> > way? There are people who can heal ohters by a laying on of hands

and

> > such things.

>

> Yes. Kundalini rise can give some special abilities to the person

based on the karma and inclinations. Some people even want certain

specific abilities and do specific sadhana. However, I strongly

advise against falling in the trap and worrying too much about such

things. If you are a follower of bhakti marga, submit yourself to

your ishta devata and let Him/Her take control. If He/She thinks that

you have a role to play in this world, you will be given any

abilities required. Period. Having any kind of expectations is a-

saattwik and adds to your karma.

>

> In your vimsamsa, 12th lord Jupiter and 8th lord Sun are together

in 5th house Taurus. The 5th house shows bhakti marga. You are

destined to follow the path of devotion. Any spiritual experiences

that come will come through bhakti. So do not worry about Kundalini,

do not use any rajasik yoga approaches and simply surrender to the

Lord. Though exalted Moon (Krishna) dominates the 5th in vimsamsa,

suggesting affinity to Krishna, the 12th lord from AK in navamsa is

Mars. So I suggest worshipping Subrahmanya ir Hanuman or Nrisin(g)ha.

They can take you towards moksha.

>

> In your D-20, mrityu pada (A8) is in Sc. Its co-lord Mars is in Sg,

the 12th house of moksha. Sg has argala and rasi aspect from Ketu

(who likes Sg as it is his exaltation sign). Moreover, from Mars who

is in Sg, the key planets in the 5th house are in bodhaka sthana!

Thus, I expect vimsamsa Narayana dasa of Sg during 2019-2024 to be

crucial. Interestingly, you run Gemini's Drigdasa during 2018-2025.

Gemini contains Ketu in rasi chart and its drigdasa is likely to give

you a lot of spiritual events.

>

> So I expect you to have excellent spiritual experiences during 2019-

2024. But do stick to bhakti marga and submit to the Lord.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> PS: I left the lists, but came back to them due to the discussions

on the topic of Kundalini, which has been at my heart these days. I

will leave the lists again and this time try not to come back until

the Tithi Pravesha book is finished.

> -------------------------------

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> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> -------------------------------

>

> > Hare Krishna

> > Dear Pradeep and Sabri,

> > I've never quite understood about Kundalini experience and Im

trying

> > to learn more.Is it possible to have Kundalini experience without

> > really knowing it at all? I've always had too much energy

internal,

> > that prevents me from sleeping properly and also it has been hard

on

> > my physical body as I exert my effort than my body has.

> > 2)Can someone use their Kundalini energy to heal people

physically

> > without knowing its their kundalini energy?Can it be used in such

a

> > way? There are people who can heal ohters by a laying on of hands

and

> > such things.

> >

> > Looking at my chart it seems there should be the elements of

some

> > possibilites for Kundalini experiences , but Im not sure if it is

> > sufficient. If you have time I'd appreciate your view on my

charts.

> > My charts are below, rasi, Navamsa, and D-20.

> > Possibilites for such

> > Rasi Gemini rising-Ketu in lagna, LL in 8th house,aspected by

Venus

> > 12th lord. Venus,12th lord aspects 12th house along

> > with,Sun,Merc.LL,ex8/9th lord Sat,Moon,and exjup. so taurus 12th

> > house seems strong.

> > A8 is aires, only aspected by Rahu from sag, and Venus 12th lord.

> > In navamsa, taurus lagna is equally strong,with AK sat, merc(rasi

LL)

> > in it.ANd aspected by Venus(natal 12th

lord),Rahu/Jupiter,Ketu/Sun,

> > and Moon.

> > Aires(which is A8 in rasi)is the 12th house in navamsa.

> >

> > IN D-20,

> > lagna is capricorn, which is natal Rasi 8th house and dispositor

of

> > LL.Saturn,(rasi 8th lord), and AK is in 9th house.

> > Taurus(12th house in Rasi) is in the D-20,5th house and aspects

lagna

> > and in 5th house taurus is Moon,jupiter and Sun, aspected(rashi

> > drishti)by Venus in libra, and Merc from aquarious.

> > Sat as Natal 8th lord is aspected by nodes from pisces,and

Mars,etc

> >

> > Aires,significant as the Rasi A8, doesnt seem to have much to do

here.

> > 4th from my AK in D-20, is Mars in sag.

> > In all 3 charts, mars(lord of A8) in in the dual signs,

> >

> > Although ,there are alot of connections amoungst planets,

> > is there sufficent link to Rahu/ketu to the other indications.

> > So im curious if such placements can/will/already have given any

> > Kundalini experience?

> > Thank-you,best wishes,

> > Lakshmi

> > LakshmiKary

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > January 15, 1955

> > Time: 5:15:00 pm

> > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT)

> > Place: 96 W 22' 11", 30 N 40' 27"

> > Texas, USA

> > Altitude: 0.00 meters