Kundalini, Sadhana, Austerities /Shri Sabri - Sabri, Vijaydas

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i agree to you both that Rahu is really one of the Vital caltalyst here in the

case of 8th house matters. i have seen chart of one of my late Neighbour's, who

had 'obsession' for 'Spiritual Sadhana', 'Austerity', 'Truthfullness' and

Realisation. he had Rahu in 8th in Makara & despositor Saturn in exaltation.

 

Regards,

 

Utpalvijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote:

Dear shri SabriIt was nice to read your post and valuable thoughts.Satisfaction

can result because of lack of knowledge as well as trueknowledge.True and

realized soulss have no doubts and are satisfied.False bleiefs and our own

convictions can also make us satisfied.But non satisfaction and the desire for

knowing the Truth,marks thebeginning of our journey.Obsession and deep

attachment towards ourgoal,results.Undersatnding Rahu and Ketu as you have

mentioned may help us here.Rahu and Ketu are the forces which encompass the

essence of all theenergy forms and tattwas.They bind the forces together.When

in trueform, they represent the confluence of all energies.Rahu is like the

force which can absorb all the ''colours''of light.We know when an object

absorbs all and liberates none the result is black.Sage

said Rahu will give the results of the sign(lord) it occuppies and the planets

it associate.Thus when the 8th lord is associating, Rahu absorbs all that is

related to the 8th bhava, as advised by sage.This results in a deep obsession

towards 8th house matters.Thus your points are really valauble.Now if other

planets too influence Rahu,the results will be mixed.ketu is the reverse

force.When Rahu is like a magnet which attracts iron filings,ketu is like a fan

which can blow finer particles.Ketu is thus the liberating force,which attracts

none.When an object absorbs none and liberates all,the result is white.12th

house is the house of energy spent.When Ketu is in the 12th,all the energy gets

liberated,resulting in vimochana from this samsara orliberation from the bondage

of births and rebirths.When all that is absorbed is being liberated,the result

iswhite.Vimshamsha is for worship and spiritual inclinations.Sidhamsha

is for the sidhis that we have.Spirituality is the direction towards spirit or

the soul.As Rahu and Ketu will be always under the influence of a single planet

(falling in amsha lorded by the same planet) for matters of Vimshamsha,this

amsha may be holding a vital key as Narasimha ji has mentioned.Conisidering

Bhavas in Rashi chakra and seeing their relationship in vimshamsha may take us

closer than considering bhavas in amshas, is my undersatnding as advised by

sage.Thus looking at Rahu in a chart will reveal our obsessions while

Ketureveals what we want to liberate.The obsession results in a strain.When

Vairagya is also present the effect may be full.Release of sexual energy can be

with or without our control.when it is within our control,the duration of

pleasure is prolonged and fully felt.Breath control is the key.Similarly

release of any form of energy is a pleasure.True energy when liberated with our

knowledge,results in the ultimate satisfaction.This may be the awakening.when we

are aware of the awakening,we may feel the passage of energy through all the

channels or one may enjoy and feel all the constiuents of light. These are just

my humble thoughts,which got triggered after reading valuable thoughts from you

and other learned members of this group.RegdsPradeep--- In

vedic astrology, "Sabri" <korua@e...> wrote:> Dear Lakshmi,

Namaste,> > I guess, Shri Narasimha PVR Rao as well as other learned members >

have adressed your question, e.g. how to see, in general, Kundalini > activity

in a chart, in Rashi and Vimshamsha, a few threads up.> > My humble thinking is

that, a person who has a spiritually powerful > chart is a candidate for this

kind of activity. Regarding the > Jyotish aspect, I have not studies many cases

but I would

say, the > lord of 8th. house, or any association with 8th. house, and >

especially Rahu (if associated with 8th. house) would point to the > period

that the native may experience Kundalini activity. According > to my

understanding the sudden unpredictable character of Rahu > better explains the

Kundalini activity, not meaning that without > Rahu's influence Kundalini

activity will not be there.> > But to exactly tell which specific person will

have this kind of > experience and when would not be easy.> > We can safely

assume that all the Spiritual Masters should have gone > through this process

at one point in their lives. So studying their > charts may bring insight. Of

course the other way around is not > necessarily or generally true, e.g.

somebody who is experiencing > Kundalini activity should not expect to realize

the truth in a > couple of years. It is

only the very select few blessed souls that > reach the heights of Realization.

Kundalini activity is a land-mark > on the way, rather towards the end, but in

no way a guarantee that > the goal will soon be reached, there are further

stages before the > blossoming of full Realization.> > Sabri.> > --- In

vedic astrology, "lakshmikary" > <lakshmikary> wrote:> >

Hare Krishna> > Dear Sabri,> > Astrologically in the chart,how can we see where

, or rather how > much > > of kundalini is developed?PLease post some charts

with some > specific > > times of advanced kundalini experience,development

etc.> > Best Wishes,> > Lakshmi-- In vedic astrology, "Sabri"

<korua@e...> > > wrote:> > > Namaste,> > > > > > With due respect to very

learned

Gurus on this list, I would > like > > to > > > share some thoughts regarding

some questions that has been > posted.> > > > > > The awakening of Kundalini

refers to a specific phase in the > > > Spiritual Pursuit of the seeker of

Truth, and Enlightenment.> > > > > > Whatever is the path that is followed, or

the technique that is > > > used, e.g. yoga, meditation, etc. e.g. the 8 limbs

of Yoga, The > > > Ashtanga Yoga, inclusive of practices like prayer and Japa,

the > > > physiological transformation that leads to the Awareness of the > > >

Truth, Satya is basically the same. E.g. awakening of Kundalini > is > > > an

inherent part or phase.> > > > > > Traditionally different but similar

descriptions are given to > > > explain about the rise or awakening

of the Kundalini.> > > > > > The physiology and nervous system of the Realized

Soul is much > > > different than that of the ordinary man. A huge

transformation > on > > > the part of the physiology is needed for the ordinary

man to > evolve > > > into a Realized Person. For the ordinary person there are

> certain > > > parts / tracts of the spinal cord/column that contain dormant >

> > nerves, (tracts that go up and down the spinal cord/column) e.g. > > >

nerves that are alive but not functional, that do not transmit > any > > >

information, these areas are transformed into being fully > > functional > > >

in the case of the Realized Person (also most of the brain > > > physiology is

dormant and again depending on the state that is > > > reached, the whole of

the brain starts to function

in the case > of > > > the Realized Soul). At a certain stage on the path, this

> > > transformation of dormant nerves in the spinal cord/column is > felt > >

> by the aspirant as the rising of energy in the same region and > > >

described as the awakening or rising of the Kundalini.> > > > > > The spiritual

path itself is no easy path to follow, due to much > > > past life karma being

burnt up, the effects of which are felt by > > the > > > aspirant in his daily

life, in the form of endless hurdles and > > > difficulties to be beared and

surmounted. When we mention about > > > austerities, penance and sadhana, it is

not only the many > > > difficulties the aspirant willingly submits himself to

(or > herself) > > > but equally great difficulties are met with, in the

otherwise >

> normal > > > daily life of the aspirant.> > > > > > Kundalini awakening is not

experienced by each and every > aspirant > > > simply because it is one of the

final stages in the path. But > when > > > it happens, typically the

transformation associated is very > > powerful > > > and requires a lot of

adjustment in the life style, habits, and > > much > > > disconfort is

experienced. Again typically from the first > awakening > > > of the kundalini

it takes many years to its full rise. So it is > not > > > an easy short period

that one bears and is finished with.> > > > > > The whole of the spiritual path,

and especially the rise of the > > > kundalini and stages that follow require

the full blessings of a > > > powerful Guru, for the process to be

safe and relatively more > > > confortable. It would be quite risky for one to

try to pass > through > > > this stage without the experience, knowledge and

blessings of a > > > competent Guru, this explains the "dread" that is

associated > with > > > the Kundalini, e.g. experimenting with the Kundalini

without > > > guidance is risky. In all walks of life, but especially >

regarding > > > the spiritual path, finding the right Guru cuts short the long

> path > > > that lies ahead of the aspirant. When The Right Guru is not > > >

available, the path is much more longer, painful, risky and > > reaching > > >

the goal is not at all assured. The Spiritual Guru safeguards > the > > >

aspirant in the many obstacles he comes across on the path. Some > > >

techniques that are used for spiritual

progress may even be > > > physically or psychologically harmful for the

aspirant when the > > > correct guidance, protection and blessings of the Guru

is not > there.> > > > > > Regarding specific questions of Jyothi; Kundalini

awakening is > much > > > sought after by the aspirants, simply because it

leads to final > > > liberation, but is generally a difficult period to go

through.> > > > > > Except in rare cases, It does not just happen with no

reason, > all > > of > > > a sudden one morning. Typically long years of

meditation or > similar > > > techniques is needed for the Kundalini to start

to rise. But a > > > person may have spiritually evolved in the previous past

life so > > > much that in this life even a short period of practice or some >

> other >

> > factor may trigger/start it, but this is rare.> > > > > > When one stops the

practice that has lead to the awakening of > the > > > Kundalini, the Kundalini

activity ceases in a relatively short > > time, > > > like at the most a few

weeks, and the associated disconfort that > > may > > > be experienced

*generally* goes away, although this is not a > rule, > > > and hence, again

the note that one should not play around with > the > > > kundalini. It is also

possible that some sort of problem or > > > disconfort remains.> > > > > > On

the other hand, the soul feels that whatever is happening is > > > something

for good, and the aspirant tries to continue on his > path > > > despite the

problems that may be associated with the awakening > of > > >

the Kundalini.> > > > > > The above notes are general notes, the path and

experience of > each > > > aspirant is much different than the other, and this

depends on > past > > > life karmas and the Jyotish chart. There may be

aspirants who > > > experience only bliss associated with the Kundalini,

nothing > else.> > > > > > Sabri.Archives:

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